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Why doesn't it have 3 turret slots?

Isn't this better than the venture in every possible way? I thought that wasn't supposed to be the point of T2 ships. It looks like the only way the venture is any better is in price, which, also, you said you weren't going to do any more.

that's dumb you're dumb

most t2 ships are flatly better than their t1 counterpart

This one doesn't have the "+2 warp core strength" Role bonus the Venture has, is that right? Not that i want to complain about it, the exchange for the Covert Ops Cloaking device is good enough. Just not sure if it's a mistake or intended.

T2 dessies have lower DPS and tanks than T1 dessies, as do blops and their counterparts. I haven't done a side-by-side of every ship, but I guarantee there's a devquote saying that T2 shouldn't completely obsolete T1's. Also devquotes saying that balancing solely on price is a stupid idea.

Isn't this better than the venture in every possible way? I thought that wasn't supposed to be the point of T2 ships. It looks like the only way the venture is any better is in price, which, also, you said you weren't going to do any more.

edit: I guess this one doesn't have the built in warp core strength, but how frequently did that bonus ever actually come into play in the past?

So will the added Mexallon in Arkonor affect the importing of Mexallon into null sec? Will this give sov a greater sense of independence from other zones of space?

I like this ship.but the prize on it have to be low,if not way dont just keep jusing venture if the risk vs reward gose up and not down,next i hope you make a bc version with combat abileties to figth of any solo ganker in a frig T1-T2.im not sure way the cloack shud be ther, can it jump gate cloacked if so grate,cant mine cloacked so if you made ship imune to al warp jammers ship moduls not inincluding capital mods that be of grater help than the cloack i think.

3 High slots but only 2 turrets?

Why won't you let me have 3 miners equipped!

Why should any section of space at all be independent from any other section of space? No other section of space has that, including those sections higher-risk than in the big blue donut.

Why doesn't it have 3 turret slots?

I like this ship.but the prize on it have to be low,if not way dont just keep jusing venture if the risk vs reward gose up and not down,next i hope you make a bc version with combat abileties to figth of any solo ganker in a frig T1-T2.im not sure way the cloack shud be ther, can it jump gate cloacked if so grate,cant mine cloacked so if you made ship imune to al warp jammers ship moduls not inincluding capital mods that be of grater help than the cloack i think.

"i know something about risk" said the npc alt

oh man that was a good one

t2 destroyers (we are not babies here, we can pronounce words) have a completely unique role, as do blops

however the standard t2 ship is something like the ishtar (strictly better than the vexor) the mackinaw (strictly better than the retriever) etc

-100% Cloaking Device CPU use

covops cloak is one of the most powerful lowsec survival tools there is, especially on a frigate hull. Watch local, watch d-scan. No point of ship balance can cure stupid.

You are correct, the Prospect doesn't have extra warp core strength, as the covert cloak handles that function.

Hope you guys enjoy these changes, I'm heading to the fight them pub crawl so I won't be answering questions tonight, but rest assured I will be back later to read everything.

Cheers!

yes but i still like the +2 in warp strength on venture better than the cloack,

Why is Fullerides marked up as a link, but with no actual url?

Why is Fullerides marked up as a link, but with no actual url?

But why? A cloak cloaks you always without fail, except if you do something stupid. Every ******* with two faction scrams can overpower a fully warp-stabbed Venture. If you don't have additional stabs in your lows, a single 3-point faction scram can point you. Or the combination of a normal scram and a warp disruptor. Or if you get alpha'd before you can warp out. +2 warp strength is neat, but not better then a covert-ops cloak.

Isn't this better than the venture in every possible way? I thought that wasn't supposed to be the point of T2 ships. It looks like the only way the venture is any better is in price, which, also, you said you weren't going to do any more.

edit: I guess this one doesn't have the built in warp core strength, but how frequently did that bonus ever actually come into play in the past?

dev blogs have been doing that recently :S

are you a csm yet hurry up

tru you have a point ther.the cloack migth be better at keeping you a live,+2 warp strengt migth help you get back from your adventurs going tru gats,not that fun to be stranded in 0 sec or lowe if you want the ore back to hige sec.after all a miner will be exposed when mining so gankers only need to wait at gate,so just 1 ship can stop you from getting back

Gonna take more than a bit of mexallon in the arkanor to make null mining a serious profession fozzie. Give us a mining dread or let the rorqual be it.

Isn't this better than the venture in every possible way? I thought that wasn't supposed to be the point of T2 ships. It looks like the only way the venture is any better is in price, which, also, you said you weren't going to do any more.

edit: I guess this one doesn't have the built in warp core strength, but how frequently did that bonus ever actually come into play in the past?

You are correct, the Prospect doesn't have extra warp core strength, as the covert cloak handles that function.

Hope you guys enjoy these changes, I'm heading to the fight them pub crawl so I won't be answering questions tonight, but rest assured I will be back later to read everything.

Cheers!

Fozzie, awesome on the ship. I love it. But it is missing one very important thing. The ability to Ice Mine! Why can we not have a ship like this which can mine ice? That would be perfect.

Fozzie - I know this is not the right subject but You announced something today that may very strongly affect wormholes:

Freighters with cargo rigs will be able to bring packaged super-caps into wormholes!

In before rant about "afk cloaky miners."

For the majority of people that like in wormhole space, the addition of a cloak and all the other bonuses won't really matter. It is very disappointing that the designers didn't see fit to give it a slightly better gas mining yield.

(we are not babies here, we can pronounce words) ... blops

It loses the Venture's launcher hardpoint, so me thinks the Prospect isn't designed for WH ops at all.

T2 dessies have lower DPS and tanks than T1 dessies, as do blops and their counterparts. I haven't done a side-by-side of every ship, but I guarantee there's a devquote saying that T2 shouldn't completely obsolete T1's. Also devquotes saying that balancing solely on price is a stupid idea.

So will the added Mexallon in Arkonor affect the importing of Mexallon into null sec? Will this give sov a greater sense of independence from other zones of space?

t2 destroyers have more tank than their t1 counterparts. what are you smoking.

Blockade runners that can make short covert bridges would be cool.

m8

The Prospect is the first <a>Expedition Frigate,</a> a new class of ships designed by Outer Ring Excavations and their subsidiaries that enable brave capsuleers to chase riches in the frontiers of space.

If my maths are close, maxed out, this thing will pull about a fifth the yield of a 1.5 week old toon in a barge.

yes. the H/j are paying 1.5x veld, give or take.

So income per time mining H/J in this vs veld in barge = 0.2 x 1.5 = 30%.

So, I can max this out, take it out to low, find H/J cluster to mine... and make 1/3rd the profit of mining veld in high?

(ignoring travel time... ignoring risk... ignoring the what adding Mex to Arc will do to Mex price...)

Yep, we're sure to see fleets of these ninja mining low sec. Becuase we all know the goal of miners is to minimize profits in exchange for higher risk.

If my maths are close, maxed out, this thing will pull about a fifth the yield of a 1.5 week old toon in a barge.

yes. the H/j are paying 1.5x veld, give or take.

So income per time mining H/J in this vs veld in barge = 0.2 x 1.5 = 30%.

So, I can max this out, take it out to low, find H/J cluster to mine... and make 1/3rd the profit of mining veld in high?

(ignoring travel time... ignoring risk... ignoring the what adding Mex to Arc will do to Mex price...)

Yep, we're sure to see fleets of these ninja mining low sec. Becuase we all know the goal of miners is to minimize profits in exchange for higher risk.

I really think that increasing the amount of resources available in null space is going to make null sec even more politically static.

Wars are fought over limited resources, and when everyone has access to abundant resources, the incentive to go to war diminishes. I think it makes more sense to severely reduce any and all easily available resources, across the board in both high-sec and null-sec. Force more conflicts over resources to occur, by making them more scarce.

For example: how about moving *all* of the ABC roids to WH space for a while and see what happens? I'm sure that it would prove to be very entertaining, due to the dynamics of wormhole access.

It is only a matter of time before the cartel leaders start demanding of their serfs minerals, or uncompressed ores, as part of their monthly tribute.

Why is Fullerides marked up as a link, but with no actual url?

Except that CCP once had limited number of resources.

Rather than war, high sec players that had to be at work or asleep during downtime logged it to find no resources. They then unsubbed. CCP greatly expanded ores in high sec belts and added missions to ensure there are always things for players to do.

Once upon a time, null ABCs and havens were rare. The result was that max profit came from not letting anyone else in. Small, very powerful corps controlling vast areas and making sure they were the only ones that have access. The one sitting on the gold mine is very hard to kick off by people sitting on mud farms. So hard, wasn't worth a try.

CCP had to drastically up the ABCs and havens to get those that control null to let others in.


So, what you're suggesting, already tried, and the result was very bad for a company whose income is based on increasing subscriber base. Limited resources = fewer subs = bankruptcy.


Your goals are not their goals.

24 hours to go.

This was a mistake (actually it was a reminder to capitalize this word) which has now been fixed.

Already do man. Part of our corp's monthly rent is ice and POS fuel.

Not surprised at all.
Every day that passes, more confirmation floods in that this game is going to be null sec only soon enough.
Maybe wh's will survive as an entity.

But low sec (outside of FW) and high sec will soon (9-12 months) have conditions that make it impossible to eke out a living , let alone prosper.
Every high sec L4 mission runner and incursion runner is a pilot not paying a tithe to some cartel lord, and not grinding ISK and rocks to make stargates to the next area the cartels can control.

I think this new ship will give lots of carebears the opportunity to venture (NPI) into low and even null to get diferent types of ores, I can certainly see my corp hosting frigate roams with ninja miners and other frigs just for the fun of it. I think this is a good step forward.

This one doesn't have the "+2 warp core strength" Role bonus the Venture has, is that right? Not that i want to complain about it, the exchange for the Covert Ops Cloaking device is good enough and there has to be a way to gank these little rascals

Just not sure if it's a mistake or intended.

The same technology that allows the Prospect to use Covert Ops Cloaking Devices also allows it to light Covert Ops Cynosural Fields and jump through covert portals opened by Black Ops Battleships.

wow that ship is pretty underwhelming, i'll have no reason to use this over my venture. Good job Rise/Fozzie... In fact the hole of fanfest has been a let down so far.

Run the math on these ships.
Is the ore better, yes.

But run the logistics, and more importantly, time, needed to run an op of any size, and compare that to a high sec mining op.

wow that ship is pretty underwhelming, i'll have no reason to use this over my venture. Good job Rise/Fozzie... In fact the hole of fanfest has been a let down so far.

How so, petulant much?

Yup.

It is largely irrelevant though.
With the buffs to the ABC rocks, null sec refine rates, and null sec industry, null sec takes another step towards complete independence from all other sectors in the game, which is what one of the dev's promised 6 months ago would never happen.

It is only a matter of time before the cartel leaders start demanding of their serfs minerals, or uncompressed ores, as part of their monthly tribute.

I find it a joke when null sec complains about their transportation costs to high sec going from 0.5% to 0.75% of a payload with this isotope hike. If you listen to one of the chief architects of this indy overhaul, he has plans for null sec to be like Civilization-like city-states.

Of course, he forgets to mention, those city-states will trade with each other, and have nothing to do with high sec.

Petulant - A word so rarely used - And not really appropriate in context. Negative or closed minded may have been better choices.
One could say you are being overcritical of another - but that isn't fair either.

I agree many of the proposals for summer are somewhat underwhelming - Not being petulant by any means, just stating an opinion.

Every high sec L4 mission runner and incursion runner is a pilot not paying a tithe to some cartel lord, and not grinding ISK and rocks to make stargates to the next area the cartels can control.

The Prospect may not have the +2 warp strength of the Venture, but it does get +3 lows and covert ops cloaking.

Sounds like an even more annoying stabbed FW LP farmer. That can warp around invisibly. And fit more WCS. And gets a 10m sig radius reduction. I don't like this thought.

I was really looking forward to see the stats for this ship.
I still like it, but some parts disappoint me.

My biggest problems have already been mentioned by others but I wanted to summarize them:

1. still only 2 turret slots.
I hoped for an increased gas mining capability as this is a more specialized Venture

2. gas mining in null sec
It is very hard to run gas sites with two or more people because of the explosions. If you are unlucky even your own gas harvesters can kill you. The only way to be relativley safe is to bring another guy in a logi cruiser

3. finding the gas sites
I hoped for at least a little scan bonus in order to find those sites easier.

24 hours to go.

wow that ship is pretty underwhelming, i'll have no reason to use this over my venture. Good job Rise/Fozzie... In fact the hole of fanfest has been a let down so far.

A covops cloak on a venture... because FW plex farmers needed even more of a boost? Really CCP? I can only begin to imagine how abused this is going to be.

Awesome job on this one CCP, thanks for giving lowsec and FW the shaft again!

there's no stab bonus.

Removal of drones from the ship = inability to kill web/scram elite frigates that sometimes show up in belt spawns. If you get scrammed in your Prospect, what do you do? Drop a mobile depot and switch out to some small guns? Patently ridiculous that this ship doesn't have the same drone capability the T1 version does.

Inability to deal with elite frigates puts the stop on "ninja mining" nullsec belts and essentially negates a large portion of it's stated purpose. Depending on price it may be much more useful as a blops tackle than anything else.

i'm not trying anything. there are already covert ops ships in the game, with three lows, which farmers don't bother using.

Removal of drones from the ship = inability to kill web/scram elite frigates that sometimes show up in belt spawns. If you get scrammed in your Prospect, what do you do? Drop a mobile depot and switch out to some small guns? Patently ridiculous that this ship doesn't have the same drone capability the T1 version does.

Inability to deal with elite frigates puts the stop on "ninja mining" nullsec belts and essentially negates a large portion of it's stated purpose. Depending on price it may be much more useful as a blops tackle than anything else.

ccp are unwilling to start a power creep with ships, and don't hesitate to nerf as well as buff.

however, they seem adamant about flooding eve with minerals by continually adding more and more minerals to ores and creating... a power creep.
have ccp considered removing minerals from ore, rather than flooding the game with minerals?

But the Venture is a common ship among the farmers; they tend to mine while farming. If you give them the ability to use a covops cloak and get an even better total stab count, do you really think that's going to reduce the farming, or make it any easier for real FW types to shoot them down?

Tech2 ships are specializations, not replacements. If everyone universally preferred the Prospect to the Venture, we'd be right back where we started pre-tiericide. It's a bummer you don't have a use case for the Prospect that gets you excited, but plenty of other people do.

Quick question about one line in the stats for the Prospect:



When I first started playing, all of the Cover Ops ships had something like this stat, only with odd percentages like 97.8% reduced CPU. CCP eventually did away with these bonuses, because they were kind of confusing.

Now it seems like you are bringing these weird bonuses back, but just for this one ship.

Is it going to require mining frigate 5 to train the new skill?

What are the invention requirements/skills/datacores etc?

...make it any easier for real FW types to shoot them down?

Removal of drones from the ship = inability to kill web/scram elite frigates that sometimes show up in belt spawns. If you get scrammed in your Prospect, what do you do? Drop a mobile depot and switch out to some small guns? Patently ridiculous that this ship doesn't have the same drone capability the T1 version does.

Inability to deal with elite frigates puts the stop on "ninja mining" nullsec belts and essentially negates a large portion of it's stated purpose. Depending on price it may be much more useful as a blops tackle than anything else.

Yup.

It is largely irrelevant though.
With the buffs to the ABC rocks, null sec refine rates, and null sec industry, null sec takes another step towards complete independence from all other sectors in the game, which is what one of the dev's promised 6 months ago would never happen.

It is only a matter of time before the cartel leaders start demanding of their serfs minerals, or uncompressed ores, as part of their monthly tribute.

I find it a joke when null sec complains about their transportation costs to high sec going from 0.5% to 0.75% of a payload with this isotope hike. If you listen to one of the chief architects of this indy overhaul, he has plans for null sec to be like Civilization-like city-states.

Of course, he forgets to mention, those city-states will trade with each other, and have nothing to do with high sec.

I really think that increasing the amount of resources available in null space is going to make null sec even more politically static.

Wars are fought over limited resources, and when everyone has access to abundant resources, the incentive to go to war diminishes. I think it makes more sense to severely reduce any and all easily available resources, across the board in both high-sec and null-sec. Force more conflicts over resources to occur, by making them more scarce.

For example: how about moving *all* of the ABC roids to WH space for a while and see what happens? I'm sure that it would prove to be very entertaining, due to the dynamics of wormhole access.

i don't even remember if complexes have asteroids in them. i do not care if a farmer scrapes an extra million isk's worth off a rock while they bore themselves and everyone else to tears. i imagine the majority of farmers will continue to use the minimum-skill minimum-cost cloaky stabbed atrons and ventures.

fw plexing (still) needs attention but i feel that shouldn't stop us getting a new spaceship that's unlikely to affect plexing meta in any meaningful way

The "real FW types" should HTFU, IMO.

Why does this keep creeping up? Are people that bad with simple game mechanics? The Prospect can literally tank battleships thanks to a small sig. Cruisers in LowSec aren't a problem either. So the ship doesn't need guns.

Are you going to sig tank the frigates he was asking about?

Actually, yes. T2 frigate against frigate-sized rats. Even if the Prospect isn't as durable as say, an assault frigate, it will be enough. Look at the EHP of that ship. Fill up a few resist-holes and a few belt rats will never make a dent in its tank.

I kind of assumed that the problem was not the damage, but being tackled, as it makes you unable to actually take back stuff you mined. MWD can probably fix that, but not sure if you can fit propmod and still have enough tank, and if both will fit.

I don't think belt rats tackle, or do they?

The bolded part is where we disagree then; I see this ship as having a much more meaningful impact than you seem to suppose.



So you're in favor of making plex farmers even more uncatchable and unkillable, and letting them operate at virtually no risk in return for high rewards?

FW farmers have a large effect on system control, but they have no skin in the game. They are not in FW to fight for one side or the other, they just go where the ISK is. FW was supposed to be about using PvE mechanics to encourage PvP encounters. Instead, FW farmers exploit the PvE mechanics to make ISK while avoiding the PvP risk, but they still alter the system status, arguably even more than any of the FW PvPers.

I wouldn't have an issue with all of this if it were possible for the FW PvPers to actually engage the farmers with a reasonable amount of effort. As it is now, it is possible to catch the farmers, but very difficult to do so, and the farmers operate at very low risk. Running in a Prospect instead of a Venture will further reduce that risk the farmers face by making it even easier for them to avoid PvP, all the while taking advantage of a system that is supposed to promote PvP.

The Prospect undermines the fundamental principle of risk vs. reward as it exists in FW. This balance is already skewed, and it most certainly did not need an even further nudge towards low risk/high reward activities.

The bolded part is where we disagree then; I see this ship as having a much more meaningful impact than you seem to suppose.

Personally, I hope this new ship gets used by every plexer and eventually the neuts that thrive on FW kills will get bored and go elsewhere.
Then and only then might FW become about FW and not neutrals killboard stats and plexing for isk.

2 Militias facing off to fight for a system would be worth being involved in.

okay. but i still feel it's better to ask for plexing fixes than ask for a mining ship of all things to be balanced around plexing meta

we have a whole new set of csms to write angry letters at

Still considering if the drones makes a difference... it can tank nullsec belt rats,

you NEED to import

What they're trying to change is make Null slightly less reliant on high-sec through several means

Just as Highsec needs to import all those hi end minerals that are impossible to get in 0.5+

To what end? So far, no region of space is independent, all require moving of goods and trade. What good thing can come from singling out null as sole self-sufficient region?

consider making the Prospect being able to actually hoover gas in 0.0 without blowing up all the time.

Alright Guy's and Gal's

I did a little working it out if I figured this right you should be able to fit it this way

High

Miner II x2
Covert Op Cloak

Mid
Invulnerable II
Medium Shield Extender II
Afterburner

Low
DC II
Mining Upgrade II x3

Rigs
EM Shield
Thermal Shield

That will burn a lot of Ore

I love this ship, but it's nothing more than a pvp lolship.... I can already see whole fleets of BNI-RvB pilots using it.

But for ninja mining in null? It's just harder and harder to understand the devs.. I really wanna see Fozzie coming down from Polaris and making a demo on how to ninja mine with a Prospect in any random null sec on TQ. I'm sure that after a couple of hours he will not laugh anymore as he is used to do when he have.. ideas. Run down to a null sec system, fill the ore bay.. then what? Sell the ore to local, run back in hi sec to refine it, how exactly he imagined this will work and will be more lucrative than mining in a barge or exhumer in a secure space? Why should any sane and sober miner use the Prospect?

But again, the ship is fun .. it will be the best pvp lolship evah!

Oh, you poor thing! Did the nasty neutrals kill you? Maybe CCP should move FW to highsec. Would that suit? Because that is effectively what you are asking for.

I was going to write that I now feel bad about killing FW farmers in lowsec. But I didn't want to lie, even on this forum.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

I just got back to work after a bit of post-fanfest death plague recovery. I'm working through a bunch of threads to catch up on what was discussed over Fanfest and the last two days.

I've now caught up on this thread and I'm glad to see how many players are excited by the concept of this ship.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

I just got back to work after a bit of post-fanfest death plague recovery. I'm working through a bunch of threads to catch up on what was discussed over Fanfest and the last two days.

I've now caught up on this thread and I'm glad to see how many players are excited by the concept of this ship.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

I just got back to work after a bit of post-fanfest death plague recovery. I'm working through a bunch of threads to catch up on what was discussed over Fanfest and the last two days.

I've now caught up on this thread and I'm glad to see how many players are excited by the concept of this ship.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Do you think the capture size could be made smaller? It's still far too easy to just sit 50KM off the warpin just inside capture range and **** off at will when someone enters.

Cloaks can be used for setups such as cloaky tristans or for some VERY careful manoeuvres so as to use the accel gate while cloaked with a modest chance of landing >2000m from the beacon, as well as being used with recons.

As such, cloaks have an actual impact in pvp.

Now, warp core stabs provide very little combat tactic. Additionally, the militia factions may consider them pathetic for use only by cowards (lore only). So perhaps have the accel gate deny usage if you have stabs fitted, even offline, OR even in your cargo. This prevents WCS usage in a plex, including by means of mobile depot.

No more WCS and nothing of value is lost.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

If you brave pirates are worried about stabbed farmers, fit more points and take your chances like everyone else. Oh wait, I might have to compromise my fit??? No! Make them play MY game dammit!

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

I just got back to work after a bit of post-fanfest death plague recovery. I'm working through a bunch of threads to catch up on what was discussed over Fanfest and the last two days.

I've now caught up on this thread and I'm glad to see how many players are excited by the concept of this ship.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Hey Fozzie. Good to see you back. Is there any chance of allowing a covert ice mining ship in future, or even better allowing this one to have a bonus to ice miners?

That is the big gap still missing in allowing industry to thrive in null and low sec.

Hey Fozzie. Good to see you back. Is there any chance of allowing a covert ice mining ship in future, or even better allowing this one to have a bonus to ice miners?

That is the big gap still missing in allowing industry to thrive in null and low sec.

...

As a final note, at what point did a stabbed farmer compromise THEIR fit? Lock range and speed reduction is hardly painful to the person who doesn't intend to lock anything this side of christmas anyway. You goad about "brave pirates" when the stabbed tactic is nothing but an exploit of the system. It's no better than an invulnerable hauler or possed up fleet booster.

it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Not that I've done faction warfare anytime in recent past so I don't feel qualified to critique the bulk of arguments, however I would point out the only Fleet Assist module that can be activated inside a POS bubble are Mining Foreman ones, It has been that way for awhile now.

Adding an ice mining Expedition Frigate in the future is definitely possible.

Not that I've done faction warfare anytime in recent past so I don't feel qualified to critique the bulk of arguments, however I would point out the only Fleet Assist module that can be activated inside a POS bubble are Mining Foreman ones, It has been that way for awhile now.

To the people talking about warp core stabbs. Wouldn't a simpler solution be to only allow fitting 1 per ship. This way a long point will not hold you but a scam will still be able to lock you down.

Another field that direly required some attention was the lack of benefits for actively participating in Factional Warfare. In the reward ladder, helping your faction in territorial warfare should reward the most, followed by PvP, and then finally PvE with missions. However, this actually is the opposite right now as missions pay the most while they impact the least in your faction territory. We really want to reward individual players that take risks and participate in PvP and conflicts, rather than promoting safe, passive incomes.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

I just got back to work after a bit of post-fanfest death plague recovery. I'm working through a bunch of threads to catch up on what was discussed over Fanfest and the last two days.

I've now caught up on this thread and I'm glad to see how many players are excited by the concept of this ship.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the feedback so far.

I just got back to work after a bit of post-fanfest death plague recovery. I'm working through a bunch of threads to catch up on what was discussed over Fanfest and the last two days.

I've now caught up on this thread and I'm glad to see how many players are excited by the concept of this ship.

Quick note: I'm not worried about the Prospect being used for afk FW farming since as of Kronos it will be impossible to cloak within capture range of a FW button.

Ok guys, this thread is for discussion of the Prospect and the changes to lowsec and nullsec mining. Please keep it on topic.

I'll put up a separate thread as soon as I have the time for some discussion of the Kronos FW changes.

None of the FW guys answered my question above. If the Prospector has an advantage in FW that a stabbed covops or bomber wouldn't have (not to say either of those represent a good game mechanic). I could imagine a venture being used there because of price alone, but is FW even relevant to this ship?

None of the FW guys answered my question above. If the Prospector has an advantage in FW that a stabbed covops or bomber wouldn't have (not to say either of those represent a good game mechanic). I could imagine a venture being used there because of price alone, but is FW even relevant to this ship?

Adding an ice mining Expedition Frigate in the future is definitely possible.