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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 30/05/2006 22:05:46 "The Jaguar projectile tracking speed bonus has been changed to a projectile damage bonus. It also has a higher power and cpu output and a new medium power slot."
Double damage bonus, an extra mid and more room for fittings 
"The Vengeance laser optimal range bonus has been changed to a laser damage bonus. Also, its armor and power output have increased, while sheilds have been decreased. A new low power slot rounds out the changes."
Can someone Amarrian tell me if this is good or not?
"The Wolf projectile optimal range bonus has been changed to a projectile damage bonus. Also, its falloff bonus has been increased to 10% to balance it with other ships of the same class."
The Wolf just became an absolute close-range autocannon monster.
"The Hawk launcher rate of fire bonus has been changed to missile kinetic damage bonus, and the hybrid optimal bonus has been changed to missile velocity bonus. It also has a higher power output and a new high power slot."
And I am so training caldari frig for this.
See, sometimes when you hammer the point home for long enough the devs do take notice 
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:08:00 -
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Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
Nah these are good bonusses, allthough i can see some people whining @ kinetic dmgbonus from hawk.. _________________________________________________
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
the ishkur is the reason for the assault frig changes 
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Khadur
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:09:00 -
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Good day to drive minmatar ^^
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
the ishkur is the reason for the assault frig changes 
Hehe, could be true, love the little ship , good to see that these ships are finnaly getting a boost. _________________________________________________
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
Nah these are good bonusses, allthough i can see some people whining @ kinetic dmgbonus from hawk..
Ihskur has drones 
From Dusk till Dawn |

Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:10:00 -
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Is the Hawk getting more launchers?
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:11:00 -
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Hm the vengeance might be nice, but we'll have to see. The removal of the optimal range bonus might downgrade it a bit, but it should be good for the popular setups..
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God is on the side with the best artillery.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
What about it? It's still nasty as heck.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:14:00 -
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Vengeance. 
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
What about it? It's still nasty as heck.
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If i sold sarcasme, i would be richer than Khatred _________________________________________________
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:14:00 -
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I'm so happy.
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:15:00 -
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I just peed a little.
Jag now gets to either shield tank, or be a slow Stilleto that's good for shooting things, too.
Top teir-AC clip sized fixed, and Wolf gets a falloff bonus 
* <-- This is a picture of angles dancing for joy on a head of a pin. ---- "Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth |

Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
What about it? It's still nasty as heck.
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If i sold sarcasme, i would be richer than Khatred
And if I sold sarcasm, my head would of exploded by now.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:19:00 -
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btw, with assault ships 5 the ships with the extra damage bonus will end up with a 56.25% damage increase, as opposed to an interceptor's 50%.
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:20:00 -
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Jumping merchant on a stick, matari got some love <3 
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Quote: The Vengeance laser optimal range bonus has been changed to a laser damage bonus. Also, its armor and power output have increased, while sheilds have been decreased. A new low power slot rounds out the changes.
Can someone Amarrian tell me if this is good or not?
It's good. In this aspect, I'm Amarrian. Vengeance is my favourite AF (even more than Ishkur!). New sig coming soonÖ Drone musing (MC-boards) |

Dampfschlaghammer
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:21:00 -
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Nice changes Tuxford, I really like the speed at which balance changes are incoming.
Dont lose your monumentum . One balance patch/month is the way to go!
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:21:00 -
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i want 3912 on test server right now 
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: madaluap Goddamned what about the Ishkur 
What about it? It's still nasty as heck.
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If i sold sarcasme, i would be richer than Khatred
And if I sold sarcasm, my head would of exploded by now.
Hehe yeh your BPO couldnt hold up with demand thats for sure  _________________________________________________
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Harding Wait a minute. What changes are being made to the Hawk? More launchers or more highs?
Its becoming a missile ship, so yes more launchers _________________________________________________
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Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:25:00 -
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Wait a minute. What changes are being made to the Hawk? More launchers or more highs?
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boost lasers
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Vengeance. 
Indeed ____________________________________________________ __
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Cpt Abestos
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:32:00 -
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When can we expect the pg reqs for "medium" beam lasers to be dropped so we can accaully take advantage of the range bouns on the retre?. I would have liked to see the retre lose a high and gain a mid and the range bonus changed to a rof bouns but :/.
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Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 30/05/2006 22:26:08
Originally by: Wesley Harding Wait a minute. What changes are being made to the Hawk? More launchers or more highs?
Its becoming a missile ship, so more launchers and more highslots...
Read the notes. It only mentions a change in bonuses and a new high. It's like they're expecting you to have 2 launchers and 3 guns.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Harding
Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 30/05/2006 22:26:08
Originally by: Wesley Harding Wait a minute. What changes are being made to the Hawk? More launchers or more highs?
Its becoming a missile ship, so more launchers and more highslots...
Read the notes. It only mentions a change in bonuses and a new high. It's like they're expecting you to have 2 launchers and 3 guns.
it's also getting 4 launchers (it's visible in the eve-o item database but didn't make it to the patch notes).
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Wesley Harding
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Wesley Harding
Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 30/05/2006 22:26:08
Originally by: Wesley Harding Wait a minute. What changes are being made to the Hawk? More launchers or more highs?
Its becoming a missile ship, so more launchers and more highslots...
Read the notes. It only mentions a change in bonuses and a new high. It's like they're expecting you to have 2 launchers and 3 guns.
it's also getting 4 launchers (it's visible in the eve-o item database but didn't make it to the patch notes).
Will you buy my Hawk if it ends up being 2 launcher and 3 turrets with 5 highs?
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:36:00 -
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Holy ****! Jaguar just became a monster! Mini-Vaga is now a go. Much thanks for Sarmaul, Testy, and Naughty Boy for pushing these changes!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Harding
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Wesley Harding
Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 30/05/2006 22:26:08
Originally by: Wesley Harding Wait a minute. What changes are being made to the Hawk? More launchers or more highs?
Its becoming a missile ship, so more launchers and more highslots...
Read the notes. It only mentions a change in bonuses and a new high. It's like they're expecting you to have 2 launchers and 3 guns.
it's also getting 4 launchers (it's visible in the eve-o item database but didn't make it to the patch notes).
Will you buy my Hawk if it ends up being 2 launcher and 3 turrets with 5 highs?
No, I bought 5 hawks within hours of it being announced it was going to turn into a missile ship and laughed as the price skyrocketed by 14m about an hour after I did so :). I have full plans on doing a nice resell when the changes go through :P
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Ginaz
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:53:00 -
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Great Patch notes 
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