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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:00:00 -
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still no tracking bonus boost
ships with 5% changed to 7.5% and ships with 7.5% changed to 10% for anyone who dosent remember
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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babylonstew
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239 still no tracking bonus boost
ships with 5% changed to 7.5% and ships with 7.5% changed to 10% for anyone who dosent remember
im still praying for that myself on the whole tho, some pretty decent changes
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:16:00 -
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Quote: Information Warfare Link - Electronic Superiority now gives bonus to ECM jam strength.
Argh.
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Phish666
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:27:00 -
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YES, OH YES, this day has finally come (in a few days)
great, now that jag i have is useful, very useful. and whats that, the wolf is an AC *****, very nice. and we also have death by rockets in the form of the hawk, where did that caldari frig skillbook go > right click > Train skill to lvl 5
and the AC boost, fantastic, first we get all proj no cap, smaller teir arties are in line, now we get top teir ACs in line DPSwise:fitting.
my mate is really ****ed off at me, i forced him to relinquish his comp for me to read the forums, and yes oh yes, joy of joys, he isnt getting it back till i have been through and finished forumwhoring,
PS. Sarmuel, I belive the amarrian AF pilots will be happy too, this is incentive to to train ammar frig lvl 5 as well as caldari.
man, role on teusday!
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is it teusday yet?
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how bout now?
hurry up!
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Phish1
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:28:00 -
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FFS, thats me. damn alt, hes going to die in a few hours anyway, just had to get a word in before he went eh?
still not teusday yet?
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boost lasers
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:29:00 -
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Vengeance should at least get it's 5% cap recharge bonus upped to 7.5%
It is a 'lesser' bonus like tracking/falloff. ____________________________________________________ __
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Talasan
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Talasan on 30/05/2006 23:35:20 yay minmatar love 
this is awesome, i already love my jag, this just puts the icing on the cake
and my wolf is guna be tastier than ever, then my phoon will also be useful
what more can i ask for
edit: spelling mistakes
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:33:00 -
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Oh, I like. Awesome job 'Tux.
Originally by: Phelan Boots Holy ****! Jaguar just became a monster! Mini-Vaga is now a go. Much thanks for Sarmaul, Testy, and Naughty Boy for pushing these changes!
Weirda should get credit for the changes to AFs much more than anyone else.
Originally by: Grimpak ...the vengeance change is a bit meh tho 
Seems like that, isn't it .
NB.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy Weirda should get credit for the changes to AFs much more than anyone else.
weirda should get more credit than anyone else combined tbh.
and I was waiting for you to post in this thread. get that spreadsheet updated, I need to see what kinds of nastiness my autowolf is going to do now (would modify it myself but I'm currently reinstalling office)
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy Oh, I like. Awesome job 'Tux.
Originally by: Phelan Boots Holy ****! Jaguar just became a monster! Mini-Vaga is now a go. Much thanks for Sarmaul, Testy, and Naughty Boy for pushing these changes!
Weirda should get credit for the changes to AFs much more than anyone else.
Originally by: Grimpak ...the vengeance change is a bit meh tho 
Seems like that, isn't it .
NB.
damn sure weirda should take credit for it too, and yes, the change looks like that dmg bonus is ok'ish. the ship needed it. but another low? a 4th med would make it interesting. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak but another low? a 4th med would make it interesting.
erm, wtf?
Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:39:00 -
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Vengeance *is* a bit meh, but I for one wont complain of the extra low and actually having half-decent fittings on the damn thing.
Tha damage bonus? Meh, though i was thinking they shuold have swapped range for dmg and left launcher rof on sacri as well. Its still slow, but I'm gonna have a play with it when its on SISI. ----------------
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Grimpak but another low? a 4th med would make it interesting.
erm, wtf?
shhh... don't mind it, the voices told me to post that
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:43:00 -
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Quote: The Vengeance laser optimal range bonus has been changed to a laser damage bonus. Also, its armor and power output have increased, while sheilds have been decreased. A new low power slot rounds out the changes.
Another khanid ship ruined. Tux -> KOS
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:47:00 -
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I was actually refering to the Minmatar man love from the Devs. But your right Weirda should get great thanks aswell!
-PS Illiteration is FTW
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.05.30 23:48:00 -
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Ruined???
Whats to ruin in the current vengeance? They could have changed any of the bonuses to a capacitor flux cpu use and it wouldnd have made a change the thing sucks so damn hard. We're talking golfball through a gardenhose hard.
Khanid Innovations = KOS, tbh. ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:04:00 -
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Now I am far from being a PvP expert, but wont that 4th low along with the damage bonus turn the Vengeance into a decent tackler that can take quite a beating and also has a sting?
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Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
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Phrixus Zephyr
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:11:00 -
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Sooo does the Wolf get 5% dmg bonus per frig lvl and 5% per AF level?
Is this going to bring its DPS inline with the other top tier AFs or take it over and above?
(Was going to cross train for minmatar and im getting more reason to every patch ^^)
Originally by: Jude Kopenhagen I heard a little bird tell me that the new Battle Ship will be called "The sky is falling, I'm gonna have to learn more skills, oh woe are us!"
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 31/05/2006 00:24:03
Originally by: Sarmaul and I was waiting for you to post in this thread. get that spreadsheet updated, I need to see what kinds of nastiness my autowolf is going to do now (would modify it myself but I'm currently reinstalling office)
Done. (I saved the spreadsheet with 150mm AC's fitted on minmatar frigs, "Yay" for me and staying up-to-date with the very changes that made me update it ).
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Is this going to bring its DPS inline with the other top tier AFs or take it over and above?
It's still sub-par, however i think they certainly don't need any more damage because of the flexibility in range and damage types. Also, the alpha strike of the wolf now looks evil.
NB.
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:30:00 -
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I've heard people (who will not be named) complaining that the Hawk bonus should be an RoF. Even as it stands, the changes to the Hawk make me hard and slippery.
Now to get my little Achura girl up to the point where she can fly a Hawk... -------------- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?
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Seidr
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:32:00 -
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I'm loving the changes to the Vengeance, it's just what the Amarr AFs needed.
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:33:00 -
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madaluap what ship is that in your sig? guardian vexor?
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Seidr
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Posted - 2006.05.31 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Seidr on 31/05/2006 00:45:03 It's an Ishtar I think :)
edit: maybe not..
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Dan Grommel
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Posted - 2006.05.31 01:14:00 -
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Hurray! 6 Days and my phoon gets useful... time to train missle skills.
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.05.31 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Morrigan Starlover madaluap what ship is that in your sig? guardian vexor?
Originally by: Seidr It's an Ishtar I think :)
edit: maybe not..
It's a Vexor with the new graphic engine. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships!
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Imode
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Posted - 2006.05.31 02:34:00 -
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Well the concept of Khanid is slowly going out the window.
I always thought they were unique but I guess the cries of pew-pew armor tanking Amarrs are taking over. ____________________________ Signature file size to large, please keep it under 24000 bytes - Petwraith How's this? -imo
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Epsillon
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Posted - 2006.05.31 02:44:00 -
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Can someone crunch the new numbers on the top tier Autocannon DPS?
I'm eager to see how much better than their lower tier counterparts they are now.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.05.31 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Weirda on 31/05/2006 03:08:51
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Vengeance. 
agreed. personally would have really like to see another mid and some more cpu on there, but thank god they didn't take the recharge bonus away (would have been nice to see it bump up to 7.5% though).
all in all weirda very happy that they are moving to boost them. hopefully we will eventually see 4th bonus.
sarmaul thank you for towing the line when weirda stop towing it. thanks to you and all the other AS faithful that we managed to get some of these thing pushed through. and thank GOD tux saw the light and realized that a speed bonus would have blown more then *insert imaginative blowing here - maybe something paris hilton related*.
when weirda started that thread so long ago - would have never known there were so many closet AS freak who wanted to see all of them have role (and missing slot).
will have to start new one after changes on TQ and really drill into those 4th bonus! 
EDIT: thanks for throwing Weirda kudos guys! we all made it happen!  __ Weirda Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More! |

Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.05.31 03:31:00 -
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i am a happy minmatar today, me puts Assault Ships lvl5 on training list
Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Kai Lae
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Posted - 2006.05.31 03:48:00 -
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People whining about the vengeance should go out back and beat themselves heavily about the head and shoulders. This was the suckiest AF in existance before; it may not be the greatest thing since sliced bread now but it shouldn't be bad. Good armor tank + 3 mid slots (MWD, web, scram) and pulse laser/rocket II isn't the worst thing ever seen. As for the minmatar frigs the jag is faster and therefore I've always seen it as the ship to use the autocannons on because it can close quicker. I'd have preferred the wolf to keep optimal bonus instead of falloff, but even with this 4 280 II + quake ammo = holy smokes...should be interesting to try. Time will tell if more changing needs to be done, I'll definately want to play around with it as soon as I can.
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