That's kind of what wardecs are supposed to do.

And yes, it is an exploit. It's one currently permitted by CCP, but it remains an exploit nonetheless.

Not even 4 hours passed since it was the smart way to play Eve.

War dodging is in no way an exploit just as people being able to arbitrarily wardec you isn't an exploit. If people switch corp your wardec has interfered with their business.

I guess when you don't have anything resembling the tattered shreds of an argument any longer, that's what you do. Put words in people's mouths.

If you want to talk to Cannibal Kane about his tactics, I suggest you do so. But I was referring to your crying about him using out of corps scouts and other "bad" mechanics.

CCP have said they'd like to change the ability to swap from one player corp into another player corp during a war. I think they are fine with ppl dropping to NPC corps, however.

I am not talking about Kane at all.

I am talking about you going from "War dodging is an exploit that needs to be fixed" to "war dodging is the smart way to play eve, if you don't then you are bad at Eve" to "And yes, it is an exploit. It's one currently permitted by CCP, but it remains an exploit nonetheless".

(of course you also are wrong it is an exploit).

Q: What about corp-hopping?
A: We're adding tracking in the backend to track this. How we will then display it in game is undecided, but we do have stories in the backlog (todo list) for the character war history to show if the character left a corp at war. We also want to have it cost a little to corp-hop during a war. We're also looking into not allowing you to join a corp you've left during a war while that war is still ongoing. We're also exploring some limitations to joining and leaving a corp on the fly.

The Corp Hop Song

WeGÇÖve also implemented a good suggestion from Fanfest, which is that if you leave your corporation while it is engaged in a non-mutual war, then you will not be able to rejoin the corporation until that war ends, or until 7 days pass, whichever comes first. Note that this rule only applies for non-mutual wars GÇô mutual wars do not prohibit players from entering or leaving corporations. The main reason for this change is to combat the popular alt corp hopping (this doesnGÇÖt stop it completely, but limits it a lot).

Your primary problem is the words Highsec and Wars in the same sentence.

There is plenty of space for wars in low and null and no matter how hard you try you will never have "fair" wars in highsec because wars are never fair.

Completely remove the whole silly highsec war feature and be done with it.

oh my god.

i bet u cant wait for star citizen.

If you want wars go to nullsec and lowsec and don't all join up the same side

It's like NPC corp scouts.

I don't believe that NPC corps should exist at all. I think they're hideously bad for the game as a whole.

But I still use an NPC corp scout. Several of them, in fact. Whether I believe it's a bad mechanic or not is not relevant to whether it's the best way to get something done.

Act in accordance with reality, not with how you wish reality to be.

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i bet u cant wait for star citizen.

Actually Star Citizen has mechanics that are at least as bad as the current Eve war system.

Your primary problem is the words Highsec and Wars in the same sentence.

There is plenty of space for wars in low and null and no matter how hard you try you will never have "fair" wars in highsec because wars are never fair.

Completely remove the whole silly highsec war feature and be done with it.

i refer ppl to star citizen when they dnt want to PvP. Its not a PvP game according to its creators. PvP encounters are decided by sliders and is pretty much only consensual in the most un-sandbox way. good thing they have a non-sandbox economy to match.

im looking forward to an exodus of carebears from this game to that one.

What do you think the griefers are gonna flag themselves as?

like kaarous says, if ppl start shooting eachother when their slider is all the way to PvE, they will make it so that u have an equivalent of EVE's green safety until u put ur slider to PvP, at which point u barely see anyone. most importantly u dnt see ppls indy chars. Making industry so safe that competition is dead and the economy is only saved by the fact that NPC's intervene. U'll be so happy that no matter what u do, NPC's will be there to make sure u dnt **** the game up or have any meaningful impact. Yay power to the players NPC overlords.

But isn't this trying to force the PvP pirates to play a certain way? As far as I remember Eve is sold and promoted on the basis that pilots are free to do as they wish and nowhere is truly safe. You basically accept that upon undocking and have to mitigate the risk with fittings, companions or an acceptable rate of loss to your business...

But isn't this trying to force the PvP pirates to play a certain way? As far as I remember Eve is sold and promoted on the basis that pilots are free to do as they wish and nowhere is truly safe. You basically accept that upon undocking and have to mitigate the risk with fittings, companions or an acceptable rate of loss to your business...

and yet eve has been going on for 11 years, growing in subscriptions pretty steadily

what ur missing completely is that the ppl who come to eve come for the griefing, the non-consensual PvP and the ruthlessness that is this game. thats why we play.

i am sick to death of ppl saying 'well if we grief everyone out the game there will be no one left to grief'. are u forgetting that many griefers have mission running and indy alts?

in closing, this is not a game where u are meant to get along with ur fellow capsuleer. u dnt have to use 'below the belt' kind of tactics if u dnt want to, but this game is deliberately designed to allow such options, provided u are willing to pay the price. The price of neut logi is suspect status. doesnt matter if u dnt like it, doesnt matter if u think its dishonorable, doesnt matter if u think its un fair. HTFU or GTFO.

Um, Ray? We were talking about Star Citizen.

Which does precisely that.

You are pretty derailed then from the initial topic, lol. Disregard what I wrote then.