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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.03 09:51:00 -
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I love you guys 
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Dith Pran
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Posted - 2006.07.03 09:58:00 -
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Because our alliance rules forbid us from posting in the Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions forum, I am going to repost a quote from it here:
 Originally by: Bombcrater
Anyone who's laughing at GoonFleet shouldn't be. Even if D2 & friends win this one, GF's unusual tactics have been validated in a very major way.
Having spent my entire Eve career from day one in goonfleet, it is really all that I know. What makes our tactics so unusual, and what would more usual tactics be? |
Uggster
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Posted - 2006.07.03 09:59:00 -
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Good Luck Goons.
Your breaking a lot of molds and have a good time doing it.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.03 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dith Pran
Having spent my entire Eve career from day one in goonfleet, it is really all that I know. What makes our tactics so unusual, and what would more usual tactics be?
bringing less ships, bringing more expensive ships, taking loss more seriously, planning ahead more, taking everything more seriously.
In short, I'd guess "having less fun" 
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Trac3rt
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Posted - 2006.07.03 10:07:00 -
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A lot of posts here talk about our recent campaign, how we are doing, and what we are up to. I would like to take a moment to address the original topic of this thread, which is who we are and where we are going; from the perspective of a lowly bee.
A lot of people say that we are the next BoB. This is completely untrue, Goonswarm are casual gamers who just want to have a bit of fun. We are not out to conquer the galaxy, we just want enough space so that we are not tripping all over each others toes all the time. Once we have secured Outer Ring and possibly Cloud Ring, we will have enough breathing room to last for a good long while, and that is probably where our territorial expansion will end. After that I am sure that there will be a whole host of smaller corps and alliances who think "LOL T1 Frigs" and try and invade our space. We will never be short of PvP within our borders, as a relatively new alliance, we are just trying to establish those borders.
One of the mose awesome things about being in Goonswarm is that a lot of what Eve has to offer is new to us. Taking conquerable space is something have never done, we have never faced down a dread fleet before, and to stare down the barrel of 18 dreads and come out of the battle not only keeping our POS out of reinforced, but bagging four of them in the process is an amazing acheivement for us. This makes us really excited, and that excitement is massively infectious, I am flying alongside many many other bees who all feel the same way as I do, feeding off of each others entusiasm, which is just an amazing experiance in this game.
I also love the fact that we are building an alliance from the ground up with almost entirely new players. When I joined Goonfeet over christmas we had 300-400 members, and I have see the corp move forwards at an amazing pace. We went from renting 4 crock belts to owning lower syndicate, pretty much owning Outer Ring, and sieging Cloud Ring. From one corp to two due to member limits, to an entire alliance.
I do believe we have to slow down soon, we need to consolidate and take full advantage of what we have got.
Finally, I have been palying for 7 months, and have 8 million SP. Many people within Goonswarm regard me as a high SP veteran. When we say the average number of SP is around 3-4 Million, we really are not joking.
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.07.03 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Valator Uel
I'd love to see the goons in interceptors. Imagine 2000 inties attacking... it's not a bee swarm anymore, it's a freaking wasp swarm 
I can arrange that  with errh a click of 5 buttons.
i am always looking for your name in local seng <g>
maybe we should meet for a cup of tea somewhere in deepspace and have a nice discussion bout gangassist ^^
topic:
it will be interesting to see if the goons can cope with their numbers when the average bee gets more sp, flys more valuable ships (and loose them from time to time) and start argueing bout goals of the alliance...
btw i joined stv with not even 1mill sp and i am still there. also as we recrute a bunch of new players from time to time which are dedicated to pvp (eg experience from other mmorpgs). some of them leave later but the ones which stay are often more valuable for the corp than a new joined player with 25mil of sp.
so i personally do not underestimate the power or dedication of goons.
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insolace
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Posted - 2006.07.03 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Marshall
Oh just wait for the day of the capitol smart bomb, and POS level smartbombs  ......it will happen. And i cant wait to see 150 T1 frigs all blow up at the same time .
nothing would make goonfleet happier than throwing away 150 t1 fitted frigs (500k isk x 150 = 75 million isk) and then launching another 150 t1 fitted frigs to tackle and destroy the ship with the capital smart bomb. That thing takes what, an hour to charge?
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duckmonster
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:07:00 -
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If theres one thing I'd love goonfleet to achieve, and its something one of the dev's also said aprovingly, is the idea that New players have a right to 0.0 too.
I would love nothing more than D2, ASCN and BOB to start a bee corp and rescue alot of the players struggling in empire and let them experience this game for what it does best.
I've seen others try this on. NBSI, our former nemesis in syndicate formed the NBSI academy which I beleive had a similar aim, and from memory it worked well for them. I'd implore BOB, ASCN and D2 to do the same.
Incidently, one thing I'd love to see, although I havent really seen the directors of GF take a big interest in it, would be a casual T1 frig tournament between ourselves and BOB (or D2 I guess). It'd be a hoot for the "older" players (Its wierd for me to say that since Im old enough to be alot of you guys fathers probably) and a blast for the bees as well.
One of these days.
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DaarMaar
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:09:00 -
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goo(n)fleet? what about them? they just haven't faced the real opponent yet, nothing more..
and that time will come.. soon |
Trac3rt
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: DaarMaar
goo(n)fleet? what about them? they just haven't faced the real opponent yet, nothing more..
and that time will come.. soon
If fighting the entire PvP force of D2/RAZOR/YouWhat isn't a real opponent, I don't know what is!
We have seen over 20 dreads, and at least 6 carriers belonging to the hostiles in the area over the last week. I think the only thing D2 have not commit is a Mothership (although looking at the setup of the logistics carrier we popped the other day, it may well be cloaked in a deep safespot).
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marian chu
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:30:00 -
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just for some clarification you havent faced the entire pvp force of D2 not sure about RAZOR though.
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duckmonster
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: DaarMaar
goo(n)fleet? what about them? they just haven't faced the real opponent yet, nothing more..
and that time will come.. soon
With due respect DaarMaar, D2 are about as big an opponent as you get. We had something like a 6-7 alliance coalition try and remove us from syndicate at one point , and have pretty much earned our place in the sun.
Also, post with your main please.
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Zaratuul
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:55:00 -
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problem with cheap 2000 men fleets is that they will probably never buy a titan. But they will surely meet one some day.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zaratuul
problem with cheap 2000 men fleets is that they will probably never buy a titan. But they will surely meet one some day.
2000 men mine a lot of veld. Given they have all the 0.0 ores at their disposal too, I think with a concerted effort, they could mine a titan in a day
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Rumbaar
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Posted - 2006.07.03 11:58:00 -
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Never heard of the Goonfleek/swarm or whatever (I'm a newbie Empire carebear it seems) but this thread has been an interesting read for sure.
The logistic to control dozens let alone 100's of people is amazing!
Cudos.
From what I can tell, you wouldn't be gate camper gankes either...
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Athon Mar
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:02:00 -
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Every goon will fly anything with wings and die willingly for the swarm, over and over and over again. We don't care about our kill/loss ratio, we jump in another ship and go out and fight some more. I will jump in that executioner and burn towards the opposing fleet at 1km/s as many times as requested of me in service of the swarm, because even if do get blown into space dust, one of my fellow bees will make it there. I will target that raven in my punisher and orbit at 7k, pulse lasers pew pewing away, because a hundred punishers don't cost what that raven with its expensive fittings cost.
I have been playing for about three and a half weeks. I have less than a half million skill points. I was flying around 0.0 two days after my account was created, running missions in 0.0, dying in 0.0, mining in 0.0 and doing whatever is required by the swarm in 0.0. I have dozens of lossmails, all in service of the swarm or for stupid newbie mistakes. I have also made millions of isk as well, all without spending a moment longer in empire than I needed to. I have been atomized by rats, driven an industrial into a gatecamp, evicerated by interceptors, instapoped by sniping megathrons at 150km, and I've never had so much fun in an MMO.
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Athon Mar
Every goon will fly anything with wings and die willingly for the swarm, over and over and over again. We don't care about our kill/loss ratio, we jump in another ship and go out and fight some more. I will jump in that executioner and burn towards the opposing fleet at 1km/s as many times as requested of me in service of the swarm, because even if do get blown into space dust, one of my fellow bees will make it there. I will target that raven in my punisher and orbit at 7k, pulse lasers pew pewing away, because a hundred punishers don't cost what that raven with its expensive fittings cost.
I have been playing for about three and a half weeks. I have less than a half million skill points. I was flying around 0.0 two days after my account was created, running missions in 0.0, dying in 0.0, mining in 0.0 and doing whatever is required by the swarm in 0.0. I have dozens of lossmails, all in service of the swarm or for stupid newbie mistakes. I have also made millions of isk as well, all without spending a moment longer in empire than I needed to. I have been atomized by rats, driven an industrial into a gatecamp, evicerated by interceptors, instapoped by sniping megathrons at 150km, and I've never had so much fun in an MMO.
see now theres something to smile about, a noob with bugger all SP geting out there and grabing the vets by the short & curles
cant wait to see how goonswam turns out
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TEEEHHHH BEEEEZZZZZ
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:12:00 -
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This thread gets 3 thumbs up.
Go Goons!
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duckmonster
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:15:00 -
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Yeah. Got to reitterate the willingness to suicide for the group. Its possibly a uniquely goony 'disorder' but really its just about the fact that when push comes to shove, the group is really tight and we all give a damn about each other.
I remember the peak of my madness came during the outer ring invasion and logistics hadnt quite established itself yet. Having blown up my scorp, I was stuck in station with a damn ibis.
Frusturated I had nothing to fly I managed to squeeze a single ECM multispec into the midslot and lept back into the battle. Well I managed to jam a cruiser before learning that the stupid thing had only enough cap for one cycle, so the cruiser got a lock and instapopped me. Thing is, in the process my ECM jammer managed to get him to unlock from a gangmate who was in structure and saved him.
I even managed to get my pod out intact.
Madness? Sure. Successfull? You bet.
Incidently, as funny as the ECM ibis is, it really does suck. Now D2's fighter drone shuttles? (get a carrier to assign 2 fighters to a shuttle for something that turn on the head of a coin and instalock anything)... *That* was cool macgyver tactics if I ever saw it.
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CRUSH BOSS
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: marian chu
just for some clarification you havent faced the entire pvp force of D2 not sure about RAZOR though.
And whos to say that you have faced the entire GoonFleet PVP Force... you think "The ONE" doesnt have reserves?
we fight for the ONE, we die for ONE.
we are GOON-Fleet |
DaarMaar
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: duckmonster
Also, post with your main please.
you couldn't handle my main..
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besides, all that you've done so far is what the big boys have done a looong time ago. now what do you think where are those big boys now? oh, can't even see them?..
you just keep playing with that little hive of yours, but beware of the Big ol' Bear that will come for the honey.. when the time's right.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zaratuul
problem with cheap 2000 men fleets is that they will probably never buy a titan. But they will surely meet one some day.
If I owned a titan, I would avoid hostile fleets of 2000 even if they were all in frigs.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: Cefte on 03/07/2006 12:49:59
Originally by: DaarMaar
come for the honey.. when the time's right.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:55:00 -
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Chest beating is bad okay... you guys suprised a couple of people. But don't think you're there yet.
Important thing is that you're having fun, and provide inspiration to others to realise what a dedicated team can do, even if they average 3mil SP.
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Hanns Choibman
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Posted - 2006.07.03 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns Choibman on 03/07/2006 13:04:43
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Zezman
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Posted - 2006.07.03 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
the real question is, will the goons be the new bob?
Does that mean they're the new Boobs?
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Alice Dark
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Posted - 2006.07.03 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Novarei
so the point in this post is..........
that retarded people like you are morons
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Riddari
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Posted - 2006.07.03 14:56:00 -
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The interesting bit is how Goons will take to their solidifying process (as one of them mentioned).
Its easy to be in love with the game when you are constantly trying new things, flying with comrades and setting new limits and breaking them.
The hard part comes when you decide if you want to become a powerhouse or a wandering hoard with fluctuating member activity once the excitement vanes off in the next few months.
In a years time it will be interesting to see if Goons have usurped one of the big three or if they have made it into "the big four". Or if they simply have left Cloud Ring and are somewhere being an utter nuisance against another alliance and moving on, like locusts.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.03 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Zaratuul
problem with cheap 2000 men fleets is that they will probably never buy a titan. But they will surely meet one some day.
If I owned a titan, I would avoid hostile fleets of 2000 even if they were all in frigs.
correct, if they were well co-ordinated, and lag wasn't hitting them any harder than you, they could pop the titan before the superweapon cycle finished
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Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.03 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Atara Thalia
Edited by: Atara Thalia on 03/07/2006 00:24:00
Edited by: Atara Thalia on 03/07/2006 00:19:22
I would love to correct all the people that say we have no skills and no tactics, that we can only win by numbers. But I'm not, because I love it even more when people underestimate us.
In XZH our numbers have definatly helped, but ever time we have taken out a dread or repelled the people attacking our POS we have been outnumbered and outgunned. And many of the respectable members of D2 will agree that if nothing else we are bound and determined. On friday a smaller fleet repelled a 10 dread + support fleet assault on one of our POSes for SIX HOURS. In the end almost all of our fleet was wiped out, D2 lost 4 dreads, and our POS shields went below 27% but still managed to stay out of reinforced. Anyone on either side know how intense this fight was. Someone in this thread said that 50 t2 ships with skilled pilots would mop the floor against 150 of us. Alot of people that have tried those odds would probably disagree. And even if it were true and our entire 150 man fleet was wiped out, within 30-60 minutes we would be right back there ready to die for the swarm again.
Oh yeah, and since we arent allowed to post in the alliance forum I want to take this time to thank many of D2 for the absolutly epic battles that have fought throughout the week. My account is barely 4 months old but I'm sure I'm taking part in things that some people with 2 yrs under there belt haven't had the opportunity to see. Both D2 and Goonfleet have pulled out all stops and have shown that neither is going to let this system just slip away. I wish everyone could see just how absolutly brutal some of these fights are with both sides absolutly refusing to die (well... refusing to stay dead). In my opinion the experience gained from this campain is worth more than XZH and its surrounding systems. I salute everyone that has taken part.
P.S. All Alts, Crybabies, Drama *****s, and Threadnaughts need to go away and let the rest of us have our fun.
I don't know about the rest of goons, but this guy knows what eve is all about.
Congrats on the battles. And more importantly, the experiance.
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