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Calenth
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Posted - 2006.07.03 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Calenth on 03/07/2006 03:44:42
Edited by: Calenth on 03/07/2006 03:44:20
 Originally by: Kurren
It's only a matter of time before they come knocking on [BoB]'s door, and then maybe even ASCN's. Though, I don't recommend either, but call it a matter of time and patience. Eventually, they'll just do something to shut everybody up.
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I kinda doubt it, honestly. A lot of the reason we have pursued XZH so hotly is that the system is close to our other spaces and almost perfectly suited to our needs -- a lot of good belts and a complex in a single system with a single bottleneck gate entrance. Our swarm tactics rely on a pretty high population density in a small area; spreading out over large swathes of conquerable space, like BoB or ASCN does, isn't something we're really geared to do. There's a big difference between defending a single really good system (which is basically what cloud ring is) and defending an entire region or set of regions, like the senior big alliances do, and I don't think we're really ready for those large-scale, long-range territory campaigns.
I guess I could be wrong, though.
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CRUSH BOSS
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Posted - 2006.07.03 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Juino
Hey guys, I hear nobody in Goonfleet can fly t2 ships, and man they need some good FC's.
50 t2 ships could own their 150 newb fleet lmao.
As demonstrated by how owned they got by Supremacy/GA/BRS/NBSI and then D2/RAZOR/YouWhat.
Yawn... Oh how wrong you are
we fight for the ONE, we die for ONE.
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Tassitus Mallinar
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Posted - 2006.07.03 03:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tassitus Mallinar on 03/07/2006 03:53:00
Edited by: Tassitus Mallinar on 03/07/2006 03:52:38
I remember, I was in a defense gang just keeping an eye out for a rogue fleet when, all of a sudden, my gang lead gets on TeamSpeak and is like "Head's up guys. There's a station in Cloud Ring that isn't claimed right now, and we're going to take it. Now. This has highest priority."
Two hours later, I was in XZH. I'm amazed at what the swarm can accomplish still.
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Johanen
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Posted - 2006.07.03 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: MachZERO
Finally... Someone is using their heads instead of their wallets.
It's more allong the lines of using our heads to save our wallets. I, myself, have personally lost 3 battleships, several cruisers, and about a half dozen frigates. I have personally soloed or small group ganked several T2 fitted ships, including a fully T2 fitted raven. The total after insurance loss of my 5 days of combat is probably close to 100 million ISK after fitings and insurance. The T2 loot I've recovered from cans is probably worth close to 240 mil if the TRUST website is accurate.
Sure the T2 ships are about 20-60% better in terms of raw DPS and range, but our unconventional battle tactics and berserker disregard for life, limb, or ship allows us to level the playing field nicely and kill on equal terms, without the ISK loss.
On the topic of newbies, I personally helped several two to three day old newbies in the fleet combat taking place in XZH. One of them didn't know how to even align properly. Later that night, that same clueless newbie got a critical tackle in on a T2 fitted HAC, costing the frigate pilot almost nothing [we actually gave him close to 20 mil for that superb tackle], and the HAC pilot lost his ship and a full rack of T2 weapons and modules.
I'm a competent BS pilot working my way into T2 ships, my clone costs me millions of ISK each time I get podded, and I STILL don't care if I die. That mentality of "We know we're going to hell, let's see how many of you we take with us" is very powerful when backed by our world class logistics and veteran FCs.
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whatevayo
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: whatevayo on 03/07/2006 04:08:33
Logged into pricechecker alt by accident. Main below
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SaucyLad
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: SaucyLad on 03/07/2006 04:05:44
I think the best advantage Goonfleet has is that as an institutional culture, the things that is viewed with the most contempt is a refusal to fight. It means that people often throw valuable ships into pointless battles and we get massacred, which is bad, but since we do it so often every once in a while the stars align, fortune smiles upon us and we pull off a big victory. Then 9 dreads go boom. Even on the frequent occasions we get brutally massacred the losses are easily replaceable.
I'm glad D2 have the same love of actually getting into combat instead of constant posturing until victory is assured. If only CCP had implemented ship debris in time for the XZH fight, it would have been awesome. And a covop's pilots nightmare (i think even now they are having difficulty due to the huge amounts of frozen corpses everywhere). Here's hoping goons & D2 can get that "ships destroyed in the last 24 hours" counter up over a thousand and make history.
edit: oops posted on an alt, my main is Richard Face
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Parapolizei
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Parapolizei on 03/07/2006 04:07:46
If we lose XZH we don't really lose anything. We never had it in the first place and we never planned for it.
What we gain is more important: Knowledge, experience of conq space and POS warfare, and most important - a ton of FUN.
XZH is just a bonus.
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Valator Uel
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:13:00 -
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I'd love to see the goons in interceptors. Imagine 2000 inties attacking... it's not a bee swarm anymore, it's a freaking wasp swarm 
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BuSHiDo ZiN
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: CRUSH BOSS
Originally by: Juino
Hey guys, I hear nobody in Goonfleet can fly t2 ships, and man they need some good FC's.
50 t2 ships could own their 150 newb fleet lmao.
As demonstrated by how owned they got by Supremacy/GA/BRS/NBSI and then D2/RAZOR/YouWhat.
Yawn... Oh how wrong you are
Please to be onlining Sarcasm Sensor Booster
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:44:00 -
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Goonfleet is SA.com
Fortunately, doctors havent developed an online version of ritalin. They'll leave when their attn spam bests them.
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
I'd love to see the goons in interceptors. Imagine 2000 inties attacking... it's not a bee swarm anymore, it's a freaking wasp swarm
I can arrange that  with errh a click of 5 buttons.
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.03 04:54:00 -
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Is there anyone in goonfleet that is trustworthy to accept isk donations from those who want to support goons?
I dont like to pvp, but I admire what you guys are doing to shake things up.
I wouldn't mind donating like 1 mil isk for every day that I find time to play eve.
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Traellium
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Posted - 2006.07.03 05:50:00 -
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Well, thanks to this thread my wife downloaded Eve, got the 14 day trial, and started on the tutorial. So many threads are about how newbies have a tough time, frustration, feeling of never being able to contribute, long way to catch up ... that its easy to say no. This thread makes it all sound like it could be a ton of fun!
Neither of us likes pvp, but we would probably make an exception for something like this.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.07.03 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
The ultimate cheat is mass, mass, mass. 
I counter with inertia!
Originally by: Panzer Goddess
I podded wrangler, and all I got was this lousy forumban.
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Manion Taleroth
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Posted - 2006.07.03 06:12:00 -
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We do all that we do for one sole purpose, to try to inspire another Killer8 flash.
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Jason Marshall
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Posted - 2006.07.03 06:28:00 -
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Oh just wait for the day of the capitol smart bomb, and POS level smartbombs  ......it will happen. And i cant wait to see 150 T1 frigs all blow up at the same time.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.07.03 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Marshall
Oh just wait for the day of the capitol smart bomb, and POS level smartbombs ......it will happen. And i cant wait to see 150 T1 frigs all blow up at the same time.
It's called the Titan, and the problem with setting it off at the POS is that it will blow up all the things you have anchored there
Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |
Richard Face
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Posted - 2006.07.03 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Marshall
Oh just wait for the day of the capitol smart bomb, and POS level smartbombs ......it will happen. And i cant wait to see 150 T1 frigs all blow up at the same time.
Ha, the problem with smartbombing a load of goons is that receiving all those killmails similtaneously lags you out and crashes your client. As a BoB member learned to much hilarity on both sides.
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Hanns Choibman
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Posted - 2006.07.03 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
I'd love to see the goons in interceptors. Imagine 2000 inties attacking... it's not a bee swarm anymore, it's a freaking wasp swarm
We are not all at disposable interceptors yet, but we have evolved into cruisers now.
Behold the Beesprey
What can we do to get an Alliance Paint Job, CCP??
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Yoko Milan
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:16:00 -
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Firstly I wish you well GoonFleet. And I'm glad I'm not going to war against you, so many ships alone in one system would probably lag me out. I wouldn't need all those kill mails to do it.
I would liken most of the large alliances out there to the old Imperialistic nations from around the time of the american revolution. You could go as far as calling BoB the England of the time. Goonswarm would be the barbarians of the time, that even though they were outmatched in technology they would just through themselves in masive hordes against the imperial armies. Except this time I think the barbarians may win out. You may even consider goonswarm to be the American colonies. However you prefer.
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Mister Spanky
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Marshall
Oh just wait for the day of the capitol smart bomb, and POS level smartbombs ......it will happen. And i cant wait to see 150 T1 frigs all blow up at the same time.
Jason, I think you'd better make that 2000 T1 Frigs as most of Goonfleet would turn out to see that happen too. 
Mogrin's offer to donate to Goonfleet was very kind and has earned him a few friends in the Swarm but it's not neccessary. As previously stated we have 18 belts of Crockite in our home system alone. I spent my first couple of weeks in game flying around Empire and made 7 million isk during that time, but when I went down to SU I made 120 million in my first week from ratting alone. If there's one thing Goonfleet does not need its money.
I'm really pleased our antics have brought new players into the game and I hope Traellium's wife enjoys it as much as we do. Just a reminder to anyone else reading this thread though - Goonfleet are recruited exclusively from the SomethingAwful forums and if you aren't a member there you cannot join us. You can however join our sister Corporation, the Duragon Pioneer Group. They live in the same space as us and are extremely cool people.
Oh yes, and a Killer8 flash would be awesome.
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Johanen
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Yoko Milan
I would liken most of the large alliances out there to the old Imperialistic nations from around the time of the american revolution. You could go as far as calling BoB the England of the time. Goonswarm would be the barbarians of the time, that even though they were outmatched in technology they would just through themselves in masive hordes against the imperial armies. Except this time I think the barbarians may win out. You may even consider goonswarm to be the American colonies. However you prefer.
I still prefer Stalingrad, as it actually had germans involved. We're the russians, inferior technology, superior manpower. We shall crush them under a sea of red, which may or may not be composed by the bodies of the fallen.
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Toffles
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin
Is there anyone in goonfleet that is trustworthy to accept isk donations from those who want to support goons?
I dont like to pvp, but I admire what you guys are doing to shake things up.
I wouldn't mind donating like 1 mil isk for every day that I find time to play eve.
You are very generous. It's nice to know some people out there actually support us. It's easy to forget that not everyone hates you when you have to face fleets from 7 different alliances in the north, east, and south (thanks veritas immortalis). As for who to send money to, I'm not sure. I don't even know if we take donations. If we do I'm fairly sure you would send the money to the character Remedial with the reason as "GS donation" or something. Hopefully someone else can clarify on this.
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Mogrin
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: Mogrin
Is there anyone in goonfleet that is trustworthy to accept isk donations from those who want to support goons?
I dont like to pvp, but I admire what you guys are doing to shake things up.
I wouldn't mind donating like 1 mil isk for every day that I find time to play eve.
You are very generous. It's nice to know some people out there actually support us. It's easy to forget that not everyone hates you when you have to face fleets from 7 different alliances in the north, east, and south (thanks veritas immortalis). As for who to send money to, I'm not sure. I don't even know if we take donations. If we do I'm fairly sure you would send the money to the character Remedial with the reason as "GS donation" or something. Hopefully someone else can clarify on this.
Its like when europe was afraid of democracy, whenever a king was overthrown, the entire continent gangbanged the independent state.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.07.03 07:47:00 -
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Keep up the good fight goons, it's making for some fun reading here if nothing else
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.07.03 08:00:00 -
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They should take NOL-M9.
Fear the Ibis of doom! |
thesleeper
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Posted - 2006.07.03 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Calenth
Edited by: Calenth on 03/07/2006 00:40:49
Originally by: Phoenix Lord
Yea its getting a bit scary... although goonfleet may still be full of n00bs and improperly fitted ships, such a large number of them makes up for all of it..
There are a few things I almost wish I could share with the rest of Eve, for one reason or another, but can't for what are essentially security reasons. One is the chatlog of how we actually decided to invade Cloud Ring, for humor value alone. But what would probably do the most good for the overall community would be if we released all the information in our Eve wiki -- guides, fitting information and ship setups for each ship, etc. Unfortunately of course we need to keep most of that information proprietary, but I would venture a guess that our average three to six month old player has a better working knowledge of game mechanics etc. than a lot of people would suspect. We put a lot of effort into educating and supporting our membership, not only in terms of free ships or whatever, but in terms of information, guidance, etc.
Um .. *puts up hand* can I join ? Threads like this make you keen to play.
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Floppy Disk
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Posted - 2006.07.03 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: Floppy Disk on 03/07/2006 09:05:44
Help me I'm posting in eve-o God Mittani don't kill my family.
Goonfleet are berserkers. When our FCs make the call the multitude of "YOU HAVE MY AXE" and "YOU HAVE MY BOW" pretty much turns Teamspeak into one long barely audible squeak. Probably because we're all still going through crac-king voices (oh cmon filtering out that word is not cool). Then we play Dragonforce and the Soviet Nation anthem and everyone suicides into an asteroid or something and Remedials wallet fills with insurance money.
I can only hope to move up to flying a Stabber because I heard they're fast 
Serious: XZH has been the most fun I've had in eve since I turned on my first mining laser and got bored before the first veldspar entered my cargohold. D2 know how to bring it, and besides the previous unfortunate thread we're keeping things civil and I hope they realize that Goonfleet's underlying philosophy is not to take ANYTHING seriously. We're so riddled with ADD we have to be having fun at all times or we start shooting at conquerable stations for no reason.
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Jargoon
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Posted - 2006.07.03 09:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jargoon on 03/07/2006 09:11:30
Edited by: Jargoon on 03/07/2006 09:09:55
Originally by: Hanns Choibman
Originally by: Valator Uel
I'd love to see the goons in interceptors. Imagine 2000 inties attacking... it's not a bee swarm anymore, it's a freaking wasp swarm
We are not all at disposable interceptors yet, but we have evolved into cruisers now.
Behold the Beesprey
What can we do to get an Alliance Paint Job, CCP??
I'm sure we could raise up a few hundred bucks to pay a junior CCP coder and texture artist for a couple days to implement this... 
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Yual
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Posted - 2006.07.03 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Floppy Disk
and everyone suicides into an asteroid or something and Remedials wallet fills with insurance money.
And here we have the REAL objective of Goonfleet..... 
Originally by: W.W. Smith
"Consistancy is a hallmark of a small mind."
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