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Benglada	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:26:00 - [1] When goonfleet came in with thousends of members mostly in frigs we laughed, and then we said "wow, one day there going to be in battleships" I think the day has come, i saw some pics and most of the ships were battleships /battlecruisers Hide Me. --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:27:00 - [2] Really shows you can accomplish anything if you have the willpower... and 2000 friends. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Novarei	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:35:00 - [3] so the point in this post is.......... --------------------
Fuujin	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Novarei so the point in this post is.......... so the point in this post is.......... _______________ The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
Izo Azlion	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Novarei so the point in this post is.......... 1 - We're *****. 2 - Expect more Goonswarm threads. Izo Azlion.* --- Director of Malum Vir
Novarei	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:41:00 - [6] Goonswarm are the new BoB? The devs wont be happy :P --------------------
Samirol	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:42:00 - [7] the real question is, will the goons be the new bob? Originally by: Tekka Originally by: ISD "Can I have your stuff?" isn't constructive, please stop. neither is 95% of the internet
Phoenix Lord	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:42:00 - [8] Yea its getting a bit scary... although goonfleet may still be full of n00bs and improperly fitted ships, such a large number of them makes up for all of it.. ---------------- Meet... bunneh:
Novarei	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Samirol the real question is, will the goons be the new bob? Goonswarm are BoB alts! --------------------
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:46:00 - [10] Originally by: Phoenix Lord Yea its getting a bit scary... although goonfleet may still be full of n00bs and improperly fitted ships, such a large number of them makes up for all of it.. With all the pvp experience they are getting, im willing to bet they wont be filled with n00bs for long...I think its pretty interesting. And in a year from now, they will be in larger ships if they are still loving the game. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate

Dirtball	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:54:00 - [11] I'm just happy to see the newer players getting to have a stake in things vs the t2 bpo alliances with lots of skill points and isk.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Novarei Originally by: Samirol the real question is, will the goons be the new bob? Goonswarm are BoB alts! 3 each
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 02/07/2006 21:46:16 Originally by: Phoenix Lord Yea its getting a bit scary... although goonfleet may still be full of n00bs and improperly fitted ships, such a large number of them makes up for all of it.. With all the pvp experience they are getting, im willing to bet they wont be filled with n00bs for long...I think its pretty interesting. And in a year from now, they will be in larger ships. They arent really getting that much experience they are learning how to kill people with lots of numbers. Lots of people in big ships doesnt mean they are good at what they are doing they will need structure, good FC's and a good industrial backbone to be effect.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:30:00 - [14] The ultimate cheat is mass, mass, mass. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
fuze	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:41:00 - [15] Goonies flying BS for months now. Killboards can be quite informative at times. We ain't got balls, but plenty of nuts.
Chip2k3	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 02/07/2006 21:46:16 Originally by: Phoenix Lord Yea its getting a bit scary... although goonfleet may still be full of n00bs and improperly fitted ships, such a large number of them makes up for all of it.. With all the pvp experience they are getting, im willing to bet they wont be filled with n00bs for long...I think its pretty interesting. And in a year from now, they will be in larger ships. They arent really getting that much experience they are learning how to kill people with lots of numbers. Lots of people in big ships doesnt mean they are good at what they are doing they will need structure, good FC's and a good industrial backbone to be effect. I agree. No they wont be the next BoB, BoB is an alliance of elite PvPers and they will continue to attract the elite PvPers of the game. Goonswarm are that...a swarm. They fight by numbers, and i bet 50 BoB or MC or other decent PvPers could take a 150man goonswarm fleet to pieces, just by tactics and better setups. 2 shots a Goonswarm ship goes POP. However, with the nerfs that could be coming to make PvP closer range then things could get interesting. Also, BoB only have 700 less pilots, and most off/all(?) BoB members are supposed to be the PvP elite so the 700 pilots easily accounts for the 2000noobs that Goonswarm has.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Chip2k3 Goonswarm are that...a swarm. They fight by numbers, and i bet 50 BoB or MC or other decent PvPers could take a 150man goonswarm fleet to pieces, just by tactics and better setups. You're probably right. But the 150 strong Goonswarm fleet is worth less than the half-dozen uber-fitted ships they manage to take down - and all of their ships, at least, can be fully insured. Your HACs, inties, and whatnot can't. How much harm are you doing them, exactly? Much though we hate RL analogies: think of the Soviet army in WWII. Stalin himself said it best: "Quantity has a quality all of its own." ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Traxio Nacho	Posted - 2006.07.02 22:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Chip2k3 Goonswarm are that...a swarm. They fight by numbers, and i bet 50 BoB or MC or other decent PvPers could take a 150man goonswarm fleet to pieces, just by tactics and better setups. You're probably right. But the 150 strong Goonswarm fleet is worth less than the half-dozen uber-fitted ships they manage to take down - and all of their ships, at least, can be fully insured. Your HACs, inties, and whatnot can't. How much harm are you doing them, exactly? Much though we hate RL analogies: think of the Soviet army in WWII. Stalin himself said it best: "Quantity has a quality all of its own." But when it comes down to it for morale losing 30 TI frigs in my opinion is worse than losing 1 HAC.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:00:00 - [19] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Chip2k3 Goonswarm are that...a swarm. They fight by numbers, and i bet 50 BoB or MC or other decent PvPers could take a 150man goonswarm fleet to pieces, just by tactics and better setups. You're probably right. But the 150 strong Goonswarm fleet is worth less than the half-dozen uber-fitted ships they manage to take down - and all of their ships, at least, can be fully insured. Your HACs, inties, and whatnot can't. How much harm are you doing them, exactly? Much though we hate RL analogies: think of the Soviet army in WWII. Stalin himself said it best: "Quantity has a quality all of its own." But when it comes down to it for morale losing 30 TI frigs in my opinion is worse than losing 1 HAC. Unlikely when somebody giving free T1 frigs. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
0bsession	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:01:00 - [20] Dont know about you, but numbers rule Eve... Goons are just a virus, but they are spreading... they consumed all the resources in their little corner, now they are moving out... god bless the virus.

SengH	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:03:00 - [21] for some reason this reminds me of the killer8 bwf flash but in the opposite.
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:05:00 - [22] I find it funny that people still bring up the cost of t1 disposable fleets vs expensive t2 fleets tha get the job done. Every single time, t2 will beat the utter crap out of t1. Goonswarm can wave around their massive numbers of worthless ships, but exactly where has it gotten them so far? Syndicate? Congratulations, anyone can live out of an NPC station. I'll be more impressed when they do something worth talking about.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Traxio Nacho But when it comes down to it for morale losing 30 TI frigs in my opinion is worse than losing 1 HAC. But apparently not in their opinion ... and it's their T1 frigs, so their opinion matters. If they do decide to go invade Delve or Fountain, things could get real interesting. It'd be rather like mankind's battle against the insects ... they surely can't do us any serious harm (as a species), but we just can't get rid of the buggers. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Sensi Milla	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Righteous Fury I find it funny that people still bring up the cost of t1 disposable fleets vs expensive t2 fleets tha get the job done. Every single time, t2 will beat the utter crap out of t1. Goonswarm can wave around their massive numbers of worthless ships, but exactly where has it gotten them so far? Syndicate? Congratulations, anyone can live out of an NPC station. I'll be more impressed when they do something worth talking about. Well ATM they've taken Sov over XZH ... beaten 9 D2 dreads and a carrier, constant fighting over a week, lets see how it turns out in the end. Seems pretty impressive to me though.
Tobias Sjodin	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Dirtball I'm just happy to see the newer players getting to have a stake in things vs the t2 bpo alliances with lots of skill points and isk. The truth!
Ab Initio	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:26:00 - [26] The most impressive part of there campaign so far hasn't been the fighting, it's been the logistics imho. Checking the D2 killboards shows 1100 or so Goon losses, the fact that there logistics has been able to keep up with that is what catches my attention.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:44:00 - [27] We'll see, they're new yet and have a long road to travel. If they manage to secure Cloud Ring and keep it as a home then they have officially 'arrived' in my opinion. Until then they're an interesting curiosity and not much else. Eve Blacklight Style
Mogrin	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:47:00 - [28] I believe that Goonsquad is a multi-game spanning guild, like Epik.
Treylis	Posted - 2006.07.02 23:49:00 - [29] Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 02/07/2006 23:07:19 I find it funny that people still bring up the cost of t1 disposable fleets vs expensive t2 fleets tha get the job done. Every single time, t2 will beat the utter crap out of t1. Goonswarm can wave around their massive numbers of worthless ships, but exactly where has it gotten them so far? Syndicate? Congratulations, anyone can live out of an NPC station. They get absolutely wrecked by more 'expensive' fleets. The ship cost factor doesnt even come into the equation for most major alliances when conquering and defending a region. I'll be more impressed when they do something worth talking about. Greetings and hello!
Calenth	Posted - 2006.07.03 00:02:00 - [30] Originally by: Mogrin I believe that Goonsquad is a multi-game spanning guild, like Epik. This is mostly true. A better description would probably be that we're an online community with tends of thousands of members, many of whom tend to play games like this together. The leaders of any given "goon guild" in any given game will be different, but it's the same community, and a year ago I was playing WoW with a lot of the same people I'm playing Eve with now.



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