Dunno if this has already been answered but are you talking about some new wormhole systems themselves where the only incoming/outgoing connections are this new low-mass/jump type or are you specifically creating new connections only?

I'll bring this up because it needs to be said.

Should these uncloseable frig wormholes be able to have a anytype of kspace (in this case, nullsec) connection?

We are not talking about any type of newbie friendly activity here, and the main concern is a flood of hundreds and hundreds of frigates wadding down a wormhole corp.

Should these be able to connect to nullsec? Because currently, they can.

Only thing that came to my mind when I read this, since its NS->WH only

These new small ship wormholes will only originate in W-space systems, and can lead to any other W-space systems or to nullsec space.

More random WH's, that looks nice, although time will say if that means increasing conectivity too much.

New small ship WH's... They look very interesting, although they're also potentially cataclysmic, especially since they are virtually un-collapsable. Time will say, too.
On the other hand, they do open funny content:

- For frigates and destroyers: flying small, fast ships in a swarm and use them for wreaking havoc is funny and easy/cheap to do. Especially if you happen to land on one of the new Wolf-Rayets...

- For battleships and other large ships: I'd personally take a group of smartbombing BS' and put them close to the new WH, and start cycling the smartbombs as soon as I hear the "jumping through" sound. Can end up laughing like a maniac, especially if you are in a Red Giant...

EDIT: That said, I find the regenerating abilty of these WH's dangerously close to WH Stabilizers. I think the fact they can only allow small ships but have good total mass capacity fine enough for allowing lots of small ships to fit through and back, and only them. That mass limit could still be increased a bit, if we remove the regeneration.

ohh.. of course they will have fun trashing frighs on some marauder or anything killing sleepers. But you are right that CCP needs to consider this addition. Thank Bob they put very strict limit on ship mass passing through such unlimited hole.

Maybe limit this hole to not connect to low end W-space?

Imho till it won't allow cruise it looks OK.

WH crossings should not be the same as gate jumps.

Some WH types should give smoother rides than others possibly with some interaction between ship masses (current ship and maybe immediately prior ships) and WH mass limits.

In any case I think cloaking devices and possibly other systems should probably be disrupted by the gravity distortions of WH transition.
How long disrupted could depend on how smooth the WH transition was.

Plus you should consider disrupting cloaks "permanently" within a certain type dependent radius of a wh due to ongoing gravity waves. WIth a radius bonus for additional waves from EOL and mass instability.


Why? #1 Because it makes sense (cloaks are delicate technology requiring active modules off etc)

BUT more importantly it encourages PVP encounters.
Solo covert wanders cannot just evade unfavorable engagements if there is someone even partially alert close by.

(Sure a really alert person sometimes gets a lock under current rules if they fill mid-slots with sensor boosters. But its chancy, really messes with shield tanks and it helps a lot to be close to CCP servers versus across an ocean with lag surging connections.)

WH settlers are far more likely to try to gate camp their side of a WH connection if they can clearly see what is transitioning.
Of course that may well lead to overconfidence if you are bring overwhelming fleet force.

Enlarges the possibilities for roaming gankers. Disrupt cloaks and now WH connection is more worthwhile camping after plinking at someone's POS or POCOs during peak hours. Make it so WH spawns tend to form short paths between null and high sec trade hubs -- and now it might be really worth camping certain WH connections (though killing the cloaked vanguard maybe forego the more profitable if bulk loot in the main convoy but we were after killboard and T3 tears anyways).

What is that? Twitter/text message gone awry? Too many faces, didn't read.

What is that? Twitter/text message gone awry? Too many faces, didn't read.

The pod issue has to be addressed.

Making a POD swapping module for a POS would do it (so the pod would become a permanent fixture in a POS. The POS Module is destroyed? All the Pods and Implants blow up too.

Think of it as a Personal Hanger Array for PODS. They can't be removed by directors, can't be destroyed externally. If you really want to make it interesting, give it CPU so that it shuts down and is not accessible when the POS is reinforced.

Again nicely done idea.


But you could expand on that idea by adding in WH with "single end stability". This would ensure a mix of larger and small scale PVP by unpredictable breaking up big fleets to different destinations despite using the same WH.

That is the non-K162 side looks like a normal wormhole and lives a normal lifetime in its home system but...

the location of the destination K162 varies over the lifetime of the WH connection based on mass passing or time. That is a ship near the single ship mass limit can cause the destination to change as can a series of ships whose sum approaches the single ship limit. The destination can also change after a random time longer than the minimum change interval.

Obviously the normal static wormholes would not be affected although new additional static WH could be added so that there is always a destination variable wh present.

Recommend that examination of "single end stable" wh connections appear like some traditional WH type number and that only observation reveal their "single end stable" nature. Note that observations may not require crossing the wh connection if a change occur where the color of light from the destination system changes.

Well really battleships are supposed to be wielded at a fleet/gang level only. Solo battleships are not really a "thing" or at least they're not meant to be. Vessels like the machariel and kronos if you will might be your exceptions but that's not really fair since they're of limited supply over the much more easily constructed t1 ships.

The pod issue is a non issue. don't fly it if you can't afford to lose it. EVE is meant to have significant consequences. It is not connected to the value of your ship in any way. Wormholes don't have jump clones *maybe someday but likely never* and you just have to deal with operating in a frontier like area.

If some pilot pops your pod...so what? That isn't CCP's problem unless there's an exploit being used and there is a game breaking bug that happens at the time. So assuming the game mechanics are used properly and work properly you have no right to call for such a benefit...just because you chose to fly a frigate.

If you want to swap out your pod you go to empire space and jump clone. There is already a mechanic that solves your issue and a skill that reduces the time between jump clones to 19 hours at level 5.

PS one liners like yours are very TWITTER

since TWITTER users like yourself often cannot retain info while reading multiple lines,
I was bracketing key ideas with emotes so you digest parts of the concept if not the whole thing

Why? so we can enjoy for example the new frigate mechanics.
Would anyone with slaves for example choose to jump blind into a "mini hole" when there is a smart bombing battleship on the other side? Thought not.

as for risk free? you lose your pos you lose all your clones and all those lovely implants.

The point is wormhole space never revolved around frigates. It has always been cruisers , t3's and battlecruisers maxed out for survival.

Frigate play is an entirely new meta. You want to make wormholers play, you have to give them a way to swap out their heads because of the new meta.

(This isn't something like a flavor of the month, CCP wants entirely new gameplay in total.
Smaller ships
Faster ships
Cheaper ships

Wormholers have revolved around the meta of t3's and support for them.

Highsec, lowsec, nullsec has no issues at all with this because they have both the stations and the facilities to change everything at a moments notice.

I want people to play with implants in their head, but people are not that risk adverse to risk more than 50 to 100 million isk of implants in a frigate and/or destroyer with the ehp of wet toilet paper.

I cannot contemplate why I would put on the field my pilot in a interceptor or assault frigate fit at around 50 million isk, when I have a billion isk clone. And the only way to fix that issue and for me to commit something more appropriate to the ship I am flying is to find a space station (goodluck with these holes only having a capable nullsec), that I can dock at, then jump clones (probably halfway across the galaxy) then make my way back in anytype of acceptable timeframe.

I live in wormholes, let me store my clone in wormholes. And if I get sieged and evicted, I can kiss all my clones in my wormhole goodbye.

Because I can't see how the hell I'm going to get them out before someone blows up the pos.

Risk is already there. Reward, blow up my pos.

Heck I wish I could blow up the space station you keep your pod in.