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Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:42:00 - [1] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/07/2006 12:05:09 I stole this from Chribba in another thread. Think it deserves its own thread. Screenshot Rokh - 8/7/5 Hyperion - 8/6/6 Maelstrom - 8/6/6 Abaddon - 8/4/8 This is just preliminary though. Looks like the Caldari took the slot layout I wanted for the Maelstrom. Go figure. Edit 1: However, the Maelstrom has shield recharge time 1500. The others 2000. Not sure how much that will help it. It might make a really good passive tank. Edit 2: The Maelstrom also have a 100 m3 drone bay together with Abaddon. Hyperion has 75 and Rokh 50. One heavy drone is 25 m3, so do the math. Edit 3: The speed of the ships are quite similar. 110 for Abaddon and Rokh, 115 for Maelstrom and 130 for Hyperion. Edit 4: Cargo space. The Hyperion gets a massive 675 cargo space. The Rokh is second with 625, and Maelstorm and Abaddon are left with 550 and 525. Not really sure of the reasons for the big differences here. I guess having bigger drone bays mean less cargo space. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:45:00 - [2] nooooo Maelstrom! why? join col ! now
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/07/2006 11:43:04 I stole this from Chribba in another thread. Think it deserves its own thread. Screenshot Rokh - 8/7/5 Hyperion - 8/6/6 Maelstrom - 8/6/6 Abaddon - 8/4/8 This is just preliminary though. Looks like the Caldari took the slot layout I wanted for the Maelstrom. Go figure. bloody caldari, always ahve to get the best or the crying would drown everyone on the forums "waaaaaaaaa minmatar can't have more mids then us waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:52:00 - [4] and hyperion 8/6/6 wtf? thats rather weird
dabster Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:54:00 - [5] **** OFF CCP!! ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Yarek Balear Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:56:00 - [6] Edited by: Yarek Balear on 27/07/2006 11:56:33 Originally by: Aloysius Knight and hyperion 8/6/6 wtf? thats rather weird Wierd isn't necessarily bad, just look at Wierchas
Greyshadow Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:56:00 - [7] Edited by: Greyshadow on 27/07/2006 13:04:22 That 8/6/6 is abit wierd I have to say considering its meant to shield tank. "Now you see me, now you don't!"
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Aloysius Knight and hyperion 8/6/6 wtf? thats rather weird Once again, I think it would have been much better suited for minmatar instead. 6 medium slots on a blaster boat with that speed... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Melkor Bloodaxe Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:57:00 - [9] If that are the real stats, I am gonna save some money for 8x 1400mm II A cargo of 550m3 is just not gonna work with AC's and a rof bonus... ____ "Since when is justified killing more fun than random killing?" -HippoKing- TEAM MINMATAR - In Rust We Trust -
Chai N'Dorr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:57:00 - [10] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter nooooo Maelstrom! why? Indeed, I do hope it's not true but if it is, it's exactly what I expected CCP to do _ Short Story: Planetside
Tharrn Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:59:00 - [11] Cargo Expanders! ducks Now recruiting!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 11:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Melkor Bloodaxe If that are the real stats, I am gonna save some money for 8x 1400mm II A cargo of 550m3 is just not gonna work with AC's and a rof bonus... Hyperion also got more cargo space than Maelstrom, despite the fact that autocannons chew ammo like candy. But if its supposed to be a artillery boat, i guess it makes at least some sense. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Rodj Blake Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:01:00 - [13] My first impression of the Abaddon is that there's finally an Amarrian ship with decent CPU, but the cap will be a massive problem. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Severa Crest Railgun Voodoo II	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:01:00 - [14] Edited by: Severa Crest on 27/07/2006 12:04:15 TBH this is exactly what I was expecting for the Mael, and on first inspection it seems to suck. Dont really give a hoot about the others. Minmatar ships are supposed to be fast, agile, and flexible. This pile of steaming turd is none of the above. Edit - 3 locked targets??!! and we dont even have our usual racial blessing of the best scan res...
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:01:00 - [15] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 27/07/2006 12:01:50 Originally by: Yarek Balear Edited by: Yarek Balear on 27/07/2006 11:56:33 Originally by: Aloysius Knight and hyperion 8/6/6 wtf? thats rather weird Wierd isn't necessarily bad, just look at Wierchas um wtf ? edit: i ♥ u tho join col ! now
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:02:00 - [16] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Yarek Balear Edited by: Yarek Balear on 27/07/2006 11:56:33 Originally by: Aloysius Knight and hyperion 8/6/6 wtf? thats rather weird Wierd isn't necessarily bad, just look at Wierchas um wtf ? looks at Wierchas yeah i guess, but still GIVE MAELSTORM 7 MIDS FOR FUKS SAKE!
Tervaga	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:02:00 - [17] 8/6/6 for the Mael's shield tank seems fine to me. Considering the Raven is 8/6/5, and the Mael has better shield hp and recharge... And the Hyperion will prolly rely more on webs and tracking comps, burning more medium slots up.
Liisa	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:04:00 - [18] Edited by: Liisa on 27/07/2006 12:07:13 Well, if those stats stand, I forsee the Maelstorm becoming the new pirate ship of choice because of the 21000 pwg. 21000 pwg with engineering 5 that gives you 26250 pwg. Now, t2 1400s have a base fitting req. of 3575 pwg. With AWG at level 5 this is reduced by 10% to 3217,5 pwg. Eight of these bad boys on a ship means you need 25740 pwg. With AWG at level 4, eight t2 1400s need 26312 pwg. So either Mr. Sniper need no mod for his pwg, or he needs only 1. This leaves the nice 6 mids and 5 or 6 lows for tracking comps, sensor boosters, gyros and stabs. It might even make for a nice fleet ship, though that it something that I cannot really answer. edit I really think the Maelstrom will make for a very good mission runner however with t2 1200s, a shield tank, gyros, a dcu and t2 pdus for the extra cap and shield recharge, but that, ratting and sniping at lowsec gates is what this ship will be good at. ---------------------------------- I am free \o/ Sadly your sig is also slightly above the required limits of 400 x 120, total size not exceeding 24000 kbs - Cortes
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:06:00 - [19] Originally by: Liisa Well, if those stats stand, I forsee the Maelstorm becoming the new pirate ship of choice because of the 21000 pwg. 21000 pwg with engineering 5 that gives you 26250 pwg. Now, t2 1400s have a base fitting req. of 3575 pwg. With AWG at level 5 this is reduced by 10% to 3217,5 pwg. Eight of these bad boys on a ship means you need 25740 pwg. With AWG at level 4, eight t2 1400s need 26312 pwg. So either Mr. Sniper need no mod for his pwg, or he needs only 1. This leaves the nice 6 mids and 5 or 6 lows for tracking comps, sensor boosters, gyros and stabs. It might even make for a nice fleet ship, though that it something that I cannot really answer. Abaddon has more powergrid. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/07/2006 11:43:04 I stole this from Chribba in another thread. Think it deserves its own thread. Screenshot Rokh - 8/7/5 Hyperion - 8/6/6 Maelstrom - 8/6/6 Abaddon - 8/4/8 This is just preliminary though. Looks like the Caldari took the slot layout I wanted for the Maelstrom. Go figure. bloody caldari, always ahve to get the best or the crying would drown everyone on the forums "waaaaaaaaa minmatar can't have more mids then us waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" BTW, 3 max locked targets for Maelstorm. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Andrea Jaruwalski Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:07:00 - [21] This info means absolutly nothing, but go ahead and speculate and whine. KILROCK'S GIRLY SIDE / WTS PILGRIM + CURSE + T2 DRONES PACKS
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:08:00 - [22] Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski This info means absolutly nothing, but go ahead and speculate and whine. You expect everything about these ships to be totally different when they go live? I definently dont. But we'll see. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:08:00 - [23] Originally by: Tervaga 8/6/6 for the Mael's shield tank seems fine to me. Considering the Raven is 8/6/5, and the Mael has better shield hp and recharge... And the Hyperion will prolly rely more on webs and tracking comps, burning more medium slots up. you can't compare a teir 2 ship to a tier 3 rok (meh who cares what its called, its a caldardi POS) shiel recharge base 6800/2000 =3.4 maelstorm (yay!) 6400 /1500 = 4.2 and mael will need tracking comps i mean hello arty ?
Severa Crest Railgun Voodoo II	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Liisa Well, if those stats stand, I forsee the Maelstorm becoming the new pirate ship of choice because of the 21000 pwg. 21000 pwg with engineering 5 that gives you 26250 pwg. Now, t2 1400s have a base fitting req. of 3575 pwg. With AWG at level 5 this is reduced by 10% to 3217,5 pwg. Eight of these bad boys on a ship means you need 25740 pwg. With AWG at level 4, eight t2 1400s need 26312 pwg. So either Mr. Sniper need no mod for his pwg, or he needs only 1. This leaves the nice 6 mids and 5 or 6 lows for tracking comps, sensor boosters, gyros and stabs. It might even make for a nice fleet ship, though that it something that I cannot really answer. Abaddon has more powergrid. Indeed abaddon with 8 tachs 4tw
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/07/2006 11:43:04 I stole this from Chribba in another thread. Think it deserves its own thread. Screenshot Rokh - 8/7/5 Hyperion - 8/6/6 Maelstrom - 8/6/6 Abaddon - 8/4/8 This is just preliminary though. Looks like the Caldari took the slot layout I wanted for the Maelstrom. Go figure. bloody caldari, always ahve to get the best or the crying would drown everyone on the forums "waaaaaaaaa minmatar can't have more mids then us waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" BTW, 3 max locked targets for Maelstorm. omg and you get 8!!! ZOMG 7th MID!!!!! NOWWWWWWW
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jenny Spitfire BTW, 3 max locked targets for Maelstorm. omg and you get 8!!! ZOMG 7th MID!!!!! NOWWWWWWW No. please?
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:11:00 - [27] Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jenny Spitfire BTW, 3 max locked targets for Maelstorm. omg and you get 8!!! ZOMG 7th MID!!!!! NOWWWWWWW No. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jenny Spitfire BTW, 3 max locked targets for Maelstorm. omg and you get 8!!! ZOMG 7th MID!!!!! NOWWWWWWW No. please? No, not even with sugar on top. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Aloysius Knight Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Aloysius Knight Originally by: Jenny Spitfire BTW, 3 max locked targets for Maelstorm. omg and you get 8!!! ZOMG 7th MID!!!!! NOWWWWWWW No. please? No, not even with sugar on top. very well, then to further dreams of all minmatar you must now die good bye Mister Bond!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 12:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire No, not even with sugar on top. You also got 6800 base shield, and of course, the 7 medium slots. Enjoy... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate

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