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Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:32:00 - [151] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 03/08/2006 11:34:26 Originally by: KilROCK shield tanking isn't exactly gallente, and i don't see why it should be given the choice to EWAR, and shield tank... Unless of course they got screwed somewhere and are mixed with the 'big celestis/lachesis' approach.. Dominix is a kinda nifty shield tank. (Some strange things can be done to the Eos too) --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
KilROCK Minmatar Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:34:00 - [152] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: KilROCK shield tanking isn't exactly gallente, and i don't see why it should be given the choice to EWAR, and shield tank... Unless of course they got screwed somewhere and are mixed with the 'big celestis/lachesis' approach.. Dominix is a kinda nifty shield tank. Haven't used dual 250mm II setup ever since they gave in the Invulnerability field boost, the way it sucks that i have lows and i am fairly attracted to fit stabs there, the way Javelin L sucks major butt on it and i want damage, more damage and having the same shield as a T1 Caracal isn't exactly fun when fitting that ammo. SMACKING IN A TOPIC NEAR YOU / WTS PILGRIM + CURSE + T2 DRONES PACKS
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:35:00 - [153] Edited by: Grimpak on 03/08/2006 11:36:31 double post omg! ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:35:00 - [154] Originally by: Hllaxiu (edit again: correct graphs are linked to) well looks like the dual250 gank setup isn't that powerfull then, altho it can hit for a good range with good damage. ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Celador Nane Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:47:00 - [155] Hmm to be honest i want to see a overgrown Taranis as my T3 gal BS, im just glad i just finished Gal BS L5 yesterday :) A nice flat +50% dam bonus at L5 will do me nicely thanks, R.O.F bonus's should all swaped for damage for lag + cap reasons anyway. Gank setup, plates in lows,webs n painter, goodnight raven torp spammer (after EW fix)
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:49:00 - [156] no ****nig way do i want 6 mid slots, im really annoiyed its getting 5. gallnete amror tank so the low slots are NEEDED High-Sec/Low-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:50:00 - [157] Originally by: Bazman Heres a radical idea 8/4/8 layout Blasterboats have never been big on mid slots, the way I see it, allowing a blasterboat space to field any sort of Electronic Warfare module other than webbers and scramblers is a very dangerous thing. Verging on overpowered I might add. Call me mad, but I like the fact that when I fly a blaster ship, I know that at conventional combat it is almost unbeatable, but against any EWAR, Capacitor Weapons or a specifically tanked ship etc, I am at an extreme disadvantage. An 8th low would allow you to beef up your tank to a 5 slot setup (assuming 3 Mag Field Stabs, ironically, 8 lows also gives the option to rival the other tier 3 Battleships with their tanking bonus') I like this lsot layout! High-Sec/Low-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 11:53:00 - [158] Originally by: Celador Nane Hmm to be honest i want to see a overgrown Taranis as my T3 gal BS, im just glad i just finished Gal BS L5 yesterday :) A nice flat +50% dam bonus at L5 will do me nicely thanks, R.O.F bonus's should all swaped for damage for lag + cap reasons anyway. Gank setup, plates in lows,webs n painter, goodnight raven torp spammer (after EW fix) /me starting Frigate 1 :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:03:00 - [159] I'd prefer a 8/5/7 and I'd fit a tracking computer in the 5th med
Blind Man Caldari Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:09:00 - [160] this thread makes me very very sad KilROCK's Forum Assistant
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:10:00 - [161] Originally by: Blind Man this thread makes me very very sad Go NPC in your Sleipnir :P TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:11:00 - [162] Originally by: Celador Nane Hmm to be honest i want to see a overgrown Taranis as my T3 gal BS, im just glad i just finished Gal BS L5 yesterday :) A nice flat +50% dam bonus at L5 will do me nicely thanks, R.O.F bonus's should all swaped for damage for lag + cap reasons anyway. Gank setup, plates in lows,webs n painter, goodnight raven torp spammer (after EW fix) well one of the reasons of the RoF bonus is exactly the cap consumption. Making the blasters less sustainable, while dishing great damage. and about the lag, large AC's have a lower RoF than large blasters. ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Bishop 5 Gallente Perfect Order	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:34:00 - [163] The MWD bonus looks pants compared to the other ships' tanking bonus (bonii?) Please just give it the same sort of bonus as the Brutix (armour rep efficiency) or make it immune to NOS (lol) :P Or two damage bonussssesssesss... esss ------------- meh
Blind Man Caldari Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:38:00 - [164] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Blind Man this thread makes me very very sad Go NPC in your Sleipnir :P im probably selling it anyways once this 1.5k dps monster is released ;p KilROCK's Forum Assistant
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:39:00 - [165] Originally by: Blind Man Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Blind Man this thread makes me very very sad Go NPC in your Sleipnir :P im probably selling it anyways once this 1.5k dps monster is released ;p Seems to be a common thing amongst minmatar pilots currently. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:44:00 - [166] -sigh- Lately, I've been wishing I hadn't trained up tech II projectiles and had gone for hybrids instead. It seems the devs have this massive desire to keep making Gallente more and more uber to the point where they eclipse the other races' ships. While this is my personal opinion, it comes from extensive experience fighting Gallente ships. It also comes from some experiece flying them, too. During tests with a blasterthron on the test server, I was achieving the same kind of damage output with tech 1 named modules and very mediocre skills (level 3 large hybrid, level 3 gallente battleship) as I do with tech II weaponry on my tempest. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
locus 777 Gallente RONA Deepspace	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:46:00 - [167] how exactly is it going to hit for this uber damage if its tracking sucks? try a neutron on a domi, then a mega and tell me the tracking bonus doesn't make a difference. either its a blaster ship and gets blaster ship bonuses, or it deserves a complete new design.
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:52:00 - [168] Originally by: locus 777 how exactly is it going to hit for this uber damage if its tracking sucks? try a neutron on a domi, then a mega and tell me the tracking bonus doesn't make a difference. either its a blaster ship and gets blaster ship bonuses, or it deserves a complete new design. If it has 5 mids, fit a tracking computer to increase your range and tracking? A second web? TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Bazman Caldari The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.03 12:58:00 - [169] You do realise that this "1.5k DPS Monster" is purely based on speculation that the Hyp will have a rof bonus and a damage bonus (Unlikely) And that the effective DPS is usually alot lower for most of the fight. For the last time, Don't try and outgank a Gallente Blasterw***e! :P There are a million more ways to overcome them, pure DPS is not one of them :P ----- Sig removed, maximum allowed image dimensions are 400x120 and maximum allowed size is 24,000 bytes. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -wystler Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:01:00 - [170] Originally by: Bazman You do realise that this "1.5k DPS Monster" is purely based on speculation that the Hyp will have a rof bonus and a damage bonus (Unlikely) And that the effective DPS is usually alot lower for most of the fight. For the last time, Don't try and outgank a Gallente Blasterw***e! :P There are a million more ways to overcome them, pure DPS is not one of them :P Yes, those tactics are 1) Speed. Going to be virtually useless against the Hyperion 2) ECM. Getting nerfed 3) Nos. Getting nerfed TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:02:00 - [171] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Bazman You do realise that this "1.5k DPS Monster" is purely based on speculation that the Hyp will have a rof bonus and a damage bonus (Unlikely) And that the effective DPS is usually alot lower for most of the fight. For the last time, Don't try and outgank a Gallente Blasterw**e! :P There are a million more ways to overcome them, pure DPS is not one of them :P Yes, those tactics are 1) Speed. Going to be virtually useless against the Hyperion 2) ECM. Getting nerfed 3) Nos. Getting nerfed Exactly. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing* to this thread!"
Bazman Caldari The Establishment	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:09:00 - [172] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Bazman You do realise that this "1.5k DPS Monster" is purely based on speculation that the Hyp will have a rof bonus and a damage bonus (Unlikely) And that the effective DPS is usually alot lower for most of the fight. For the last time, Don't try and outgank a Gallente Blasterw***e! :P There are a million more ways to overcome them, pure DPS is not one of them :P Yes, those tactics are 1) Speed. Going to be virtually useless against the Hyperion 2) ECM. Getting nerfed 3) Nos. Getting nerfed Is there any specifics on the ECM and Nos nerf btw? Is there any reason to believe that somehow the Hyp will become invunerable to being Jammed or Nossed? Tracking disrupting a Hyp thats using Null ammo is actually significant enough to reduce its damage alot unless its sitting right beside you and your both stationary. Sensor Dampening a ship with a base locking range of 50km is also going to be effective. How about sticking 3 Webber drones on the Hyp? Or ECM drones? How about MWDing away in your BS the moment you see a Hyperion warping in, forcing him to either disengage or burn all his cap following you? (With no guarantee it will actually catch up, because I'm sure Tux won't be stupid enough to make it faster than a Tempest) ----- Sig removed, maximum allowed image dimensions are 400x120 and maximum allowed size is 24,000 bytes. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -wystler Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:10:00 - [173] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Bazman You do realise that this "1.5k DPS Monster" is purely based on speculation that the Hyp will have a rof bonus and a damage bonus (Unlikely) And that the effective DPS is usually alot lower for most of the fight. For the last time, Don't try and outgank a Gallente Blasterw***e! :P There are a million more ways to overcome them, pure DPS is not one of them :P Yes, those tactics are 1) Speed. Going to be virtually useless against the Hyperion 2) ECM. Getting nerfed 3) Nos. Getting nerfed Hyper = Raven MK II
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:38:00 - [174] I want 1500 dps. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:40:00 - [175] Edited by: Wrayeth on 03/08/2006 13:40:36 I want an AC boat that isn't sub-par. EDIT: Not just battleships - on the command ship level, the sleipnir can't fit a web due to lack of slots. :P -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:42:00 - [176] Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 03/08/2006 13:40:36 I want an AC boat that isn't sub-par. EDIT: Not just battleships - on the command ship level, the sleipnir can't fit a web due to lack of slots. :P Just look at carriers and tell me minmatar doesnt suck. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:42:00 - [177] Originally by: Wrayeth -sigh- Lately, I've been wishing I hadn't trained up tech II projectiles and had gone for hybrids instead. It seems the devs have this massive desire to keep making Gallente more and more uber to the point where they eclipse the other races' ships. While this is my personal opinion, it comes from extensive experience fighting Gallente ships. It also comes from some experiece flying them, too. During tests with a blasterthron on the test server, I was achieving the same kind of damage output with tech 1 named modules and very mediocre skills (level 3 large hybrid, level 3 gallente battleship) as I do with tech II weaponry on my tempest. So that's why a ACtempest can shred a blasterthron a new one if it knows what it's doing? Cause of dps? Too small a part of the equation really. Double damage bonuses on the hyperion is bull if it can field 8 neutrons. ROF bonus and a tanking bonus... preferably resists, but doubt that since that's a amarrian bonus. And a 5th med for target painter ( better then tracking comp for short range since you don't need optimal ) and you'll do quite nicely.
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:45:00 - [178] Originally by: Jim McGregor Just look at carriers and tell me minmatar doesnt suck. QFT. That's the reason I trained Caldari battleship 5 instead of Minmatar battleship 5 when training for cap ships; the Caldari carrier is useful, while the Minmatar carrier blows. I can't fly either atm since I went for dreads first, but if I train for carriers in the future at least I'll be able to use one that doesn't suck all ass. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Celador Nane Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.03 14:03:00 - [179] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Celador Nane Hmm to be honest i want to see a overgrown Taranis as my T3 gal BS, im just glad i just finished Gal BS L5 yesterday :) A nice flat +50% dam bonus at L5 will do me nicely thanks, R.O.F bonus's should all swaped for damage for lag + cap reasons anyway. Gank setup, plates in lows,webs n painter, goodnight raven torp spammer (after EW fix) well one of the reasons of the RoF bonus is exactly the cap consumption. Making the blasters less sustainable, while dishing great damage. and about the lag, large AC's have a lower RoF than large blasters. Sorry wasnt been clear (im at work atm) i meant all ROF bonus's on all ships ingame ;) Anyway the range is the penalty for such great damage, if they seriously cap the locking range to low it will be useless for fleet fights, also 2 webbs/nos/ew/tracking dispruptors or a huggin is going to ruin this ships day.... badly, also take into account the short life of the fight using cap charges. But its gonan be alot of fun :) (if they do it)
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.03 14:47:00 - [180] Originally by: Celador Nane Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Celador Nane Hmm to be honest i want to see a overgrown Taranis as my T3 gal BS, im just glad i just finished Gal BS L5 yesterday :) A nice flat +50% dam bonus at L5 will do me nicely thanks, R.O.F bonus's should all swaped for damage for lag + cap reasons anyway. Gank setup, plates in lows,webs n painter, goodnight raven torp spammer (after EW fix) well one of the reasons of the RoF bonus is exactly the cap consumption. Making the blasters less sustainable, while dishing great damage. and about the lag, large AC's have a lower RoF than large blasters. Sorry wasnt been clear (im at work atm) i meant all ROF bonus's on all ships ingame ;) Anyway the range is the penalty for such great damage, if they seriously cap the locking range to low it will be useless for fleet fights, also 2 webbs/nos/ew/tracking dispruptors or a huggin is going to ruin this ships day.... badly, also take into account the short life of the fight using cap charges. But its gonan be alot of fun :) (if they do it) exactly ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.

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