Why optimal instead of fall off? This is not a caldari ship.

I don't know the mass/agility numbers off the top of my head, but isn't the Devoter strictly superior to a Zealot? It has drones, highslot scram, and a resist bonus, and it still mounts 5 guns.

Feel the pain of worthless optimal bonus on blasters.

Also, 10% tracking bonus on medium blasters is ******* insane.

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Feel the pain of worthless optimal bonus on blasters.

Also, 10% tracking bonus on medium blasters is ******* insane.

Tackle
Cap injection
Better damage application due to tracking bonus.
Plus rate of fire gives a 33% dps increase over the 25% the damage bonus

im not sure what you mean by tackle as theyre both heavy dictors... but if you mean a web/scramble the devoter fits one just fine.

The devoter has 3 mids plenty for prop mod + cap injector + utility

Medium pulse lasers have a more ideal engagement envelope for HICs than rails or blasters and they track better than rails.

The devoter has an extra low for a damage mod making up for the loss in damage while keeping the same tank

The devoter is better than the phobos in every way

Looking at this from a tackle perspective (lets face it that's a HIC's main job, Im not gonna fit guns on it if it means I cant survive a bubble cycle)

The overheating on the Bubble makes little sense. If a HIC is being primed then 8/10 time he will need to drop bubble to survive. As the overheat will apply on the next cycle, overheating to get out of bubble is pointless as I cannot do it when I Need too.

You need to rethink what bonus the overheat gives as this current version makes little sense except in those niche circumstances.

"When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This is to counter the power of brawling with your caps on lowsec gates, and if things go bad jumping through and cynoing out since nobody can bubble the other side."

Wow...you just keep throwing bad after the bad. Now that we have MADE supers and capital ships just like any other Sub-cap...NOW you take away an ability that EVER other sub cap has..... Do you even play this game?

The counter to caps crashing gate....which in and of it self is a slow process if they just came through, is just like any other gate action....You have guys that don't aggress and wait to jump through and bubble the other side. Seriously are you on drugs?

I truly am on the edge of my seat to see what other craptastic ideas come out of your crap idea factory.

The counter to caps crashing gate....which in and of it self is a slow process if they just came through, is just like any other gate action....You have guys that don't aggress and wait to jump through and bubble the other side. Seriously are you on drugs?

I truly am on the edge of my seat to see what other craptastic ideas come out of your crap idea factory.

I still think ccp needs to address the typical fit of a hic, which is usually double bub, cloak, probe.

I would truly consider that the issue is that the hictor bubble is a high slot module. It should probably be a medium slot module.

So remove 1 highslot from every hictor, add 1 medium slot to every hictor, move the interdictor bubble module to a medium slot.

You now free up the weapons platform, and move this interdiction module to where it should be, a medium slot.

It is extremely surprising to see the damage on Hictors unchanged for most part.

1- They need drones. ALL OF THEM. (Even the caldari, yes yes)

2- They need more DPS. Nothing groundbreaking, but for instance the onyx is still limited to kinetic AND has crappy damage bonuses.

Currently a Hictor is just good at bubbling and... doing nothing else. Its not really fun gameplay :/ At least if frigates had to think twice before dumbly orbiting a hictor at 500, that'd be awesome

I still think ccp needs to address the typical fit of a hic, which is usually double bub, cloak, probe.

I would truly consider that the issue is that the hictor bubble is a high slot module. It should probably be a medium slot module.

So remove 1 highslot from every hictor, add 1 medium slot to every hictor, move the interdictor bubble module to a medium slot.

You now free up the weapons platform, and move this interdiction module to where it should be, a medium slot.

Just to point out that a SEBO HIC with a script and a scrambler works wonders for Hi-sec gate KR whoring.

Lots of fun esp if you have some webs, jams and neuts for that odd flashy Marauder with bastion.



And yes. If a HIC prevents Capitals from jumping through gates.... then this change should be applied to sub caps as well.

After all, being stuck on gates in pew pew situations with no way to crawl back and gate out is both good and desirable for a PvP game.

More like good and desirable for an I-win button.

More like good and desirable for an I-win button.

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I don't see it as an "I win" button. More of a commit or go away B**** so you don't get bothered by risk averse shinanigans. My general rule is 'more explosions is good'. I think this would generate more explosions.

I think it would be great for nabbing a fraction of the inty plague we are currently enduring. I like that an inty can cut through bubbles and tackle stuff, but think taking away the burn back to the gate and jump away option would be fair play. It wouldn't be a 100% counter, you would still have to lock them in time, but it would put a bit more risk in the inty flight plan (my opinion.... I think they could use a bit more risk)

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Let's do a mindgame.

Let's imagine you like murdering people so much that a simple war somewhere is no good enough for you and you cannot get enough because the war is over and you also hate people so much for not starting another one for you to fight in that you get your M-16 and go to the next mall available and start shooting.

Oh noes so unlucky for everyone in that mall that they can not escape your rage because your machinegun prevents every victim of yours from leaving the building until you killed the last clerk.

Sound almost reasonable right??

I do!

Changes of the last recent years made it more and more difficult for soloers as it is. If you want a sooper-ikill-you-now boat with no chance of escaping in a cool way, you will also never get to see another solo-pvp video ever again.

I know it may be 'fun' for you to call 3 trillion buddies of yours because you are unable to handle one ship but then you do not have earned your killmail anyways.

I know that I most certainly do not want to jump into a lolly-secunda - that need three logistic boats and whatever number of more buddies - gatecamp to handle one battlecruiser, yes I am staring at you lol-secunda, so I am glad that I can bail on this at least most of the time.

Let's do a mindgame.

Let's imagine you like murdering people so much that a simple war somewhere is no good enough for you and you cannot get enough because the war is over and you also hate people so much for not starting another one for you to fight in that you get your M-16 and go to the next mall available and start shooting.

Oh noes so unlucky for everyone in that mall that they can not escape your rage because your machinegun prevents every victim of yours from leaving the building until you killed the last clerk.

Sound almost reasonable right??

I disagree that 50% extra tracking is going to be killer.

comparison of tech II beam vrs tech II 250 rails with just regualr tech I close range ammo shows the phobos native rails having a better tracking than beams.

though most would compare it to pulse with scorch. so yeah the pulse have better tracking but when using jav its not that bad. pluse have 36% better tracking and a 22.8 km engagement range with close range tech II ammo but a switch to antimater greatly increases engagement range up to 33.6 km which is slightly more than the long range ammo for pulse whch tops out at 31km.

So at max disruption range the only damage comming from the devoter is from its drones but the phobos can easy switch to uranium and hit what its tackled.

So each has thier own bonuses the pulse are great in longer then 10km but shorter then 30km and the blasters are g-d like for less then 10km and rails dominate after 30km.

plus having the 4th mid slot adds extra utlity for a small gang where you might not have dedicated e-war ships.

I am thinking ions with antimater and a mwd scram web and cap injector.

That is going to obliterate ships within range.


if you dont want to use a phobos by all means just stick to the ammar one. but i like tech II gal resist specally against kin/thermal heavy damage...

each to thier own i guess...