Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

This is a fantastic idea.

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

Agreed. Why not make the HIC prevent stargate jumps for ALL ships, not just Capitals?

why is devoter only one getting drones?

There is still zero reason to fit a gun on these ships. The total and absolute expectation is pure tank. Assuming it's going against a gang of subcaps or a gang of supers, the guns on these ships are pretty much pointless. Also it is the expectation that these ships fit multiple bubbles (2 at a minimum) and ontop of that, a probe launcher, or a cloak, or both. Assuming all, that leaves maybe 1 or 2 highslots available, which will have maybe a small laser because everybody put all their powergrid into their tank.

This does not change the fits or expected use of the heavy interdictor. People will not see its offensive capability mainly because people won't fit it to be offensive, just a brick so stuff can't leave a gate or the field.

Something has to be addressed with the weapons, the amount of warp bubbles the ships need, it's offensive capabilities against capitals and supers (they have none except to hold them and pray).

There cousin the light interdictor now has capabilities for fitting a tank, and having offense. The heavy does not (not that they do not have the option, but those who choose the options are ridiculed because they did not perform their role in absolute certainty)

There is still zero reason to fit a gun on these ships. The total and absolute expectation is pure tank. Assuming it's going against a gang of subcaps or a gang of supers, the guns on these ships are pretty much pointless. Also it is the expectation that these ships fit multiple bubbles (2 at a minimum) and ontop of that, a probe launcher, or a cloak, or both. Assuming all, that leaves maybe 1 or 2 highslots available, which will have maybe a small laser because everybody put all their powergrid into their tank.

This does not change the fits or expected use of the heavy interdictor. People will not see its offensive capability mainly because people won't fit it to be offensive, just a brick so stuff can't leave a gate or the field.

Something has to be addressed with the weapons, the amount of warp bubbles the ships need, it's offensive capabilities against capitals and supers (they have none except to hold them and pray).

There cousin the light interdictor now has capabilities for fitting a tank, and having offense. The heavy does not (not that they do not have the option, but those who choose the options are ridiculed because they did not perform their role in absolute certainty)

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This is to counter the power of brawling with your caps on lowsec gates, and if things go bad jumping through and cynoing out since nobody can bubble the other side.

Not every fleet is 50+ pilots with cap support lol, my broard sword is going to push a respectable 400dps, an unrivled tank, and have that almighty bubble... for small gang warefare thats awesome.

I can tailor it to more things.... and that is good

Focusing on turrets is interesting to say the least. I can't remember the last time I saw a Hictor with anything other than a small whoregun (I can remember actually they died like an idiot). What in the sam hell is the devoter doing with a drone bay when the Phobos doesn't have one? Why do Hics need drones at all???

Kind of negligible changes overall so whatever.

Devoter

Amarr Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret capacitor use NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 3M, 7L; 5(+1) turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1265 PWG, 368 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1100(-293) / 2400(+312) / 1800(+112)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1625 / 335s / 4.85
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 215(+12) / 0.51(-0.084) / 16,200,000(+1,000,000) / 11.45s(-1.07)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25(+25) / 50(+50)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 65km(+10) / 250(-10) / 6(-1)
Sensor strength: 15
Signature radius: 140
Cargo Capacity: 375(+95)

I was under the impression that even after the changes Titans still wouldn't be able to take gates (and the changes would just apply up to Supers).

Will the focused warp disruption script prevent caps from jumping wormholes too? (Cause I hope not)

Overall positive change though

Is it intentional that the broadsword gets both a 10%/level damage bonus and a 5% rof bonus? Seems like a strong combination.

That was a typo, 10% RoF is indeed an insanely strong bonus and we aren't going to give the Broadsword 12.5 effective turrets :)

Good catch, I've corrected the OP.

Firstly, we are enabling overheat for Warp Disruption Field Generators with an overheat bonus that reduced cycle time by 1/3. This allows a hictor pilot to strategically reduce the cycle time of his bubble so that he can quickly disable it and receive reps if he gets primaried.

Phobos:

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret optimal range

There is still zero reason to fit a gun on these ships. The total and absolute expectation is pure tank. Assuming it's going against a gang of subcaps or a gang of supers, the guns on these ships are pretty much pointless. Also it is the expectation that these ships fit multiple bubbles (2 at a minimum) and ontop of that, a probe launcher, or a cloak, or both. Assuming all, that leaves maybe 1 or 2 highslots available, which will have maybe a small laser because everybody put all their powergrid into their tank.

This does not change the fits or expected use of the heavy interdictor. People will not see its offensive capability mainly because people won't fit it to be offensive, just a brick so stuff can't leave a gate or the field.

Something has to be addressed with the weapons, the amount of warp bubbles the ships need, it's offensive capabilities against capitals and supers (they have none except to hold them and pray).

There cousin the light interdictor now has capabilities for fitting a tank, and having offense. The heavy does not (not that they do not have the option, but those who choose the options are ridiculed because they did not perform their role in absolute certainty)

So you're giving a subcap the ability to stop ships that are largely defenseless against sub caps, from jumping?! Awesome logic!

Nope, the new focused point functionality only applies to stargate jumps.


That was a typo, 10% RoF is indeed an insanely strong bonus and we aren't going to give the Broadsword 12.5 effective turrets :)

Good catch, I've corrected the OP.

CCP Fozzie,

Love you work on this, some interesting changes.

My question/thought is that why have you decided not to extend this to all ships? Being able to hold a high value target (such as a deadspace Golem or the like) so they can't gate crash back through to the other side seems like a pretty neat/useful ability...

<3 your work so far with this next patch. Keen to see what else is on the roadmap...

Otto Bismarck

CCP Fozzie,

Love you work on this, some interesting changes.

My question/thought is that why have you decided not to extend this to all ships? Being able to hold a high value target (such as a deadspace Golem or the like) so they can't gate crash back through to the other side seems like a pretty neat/useful ability...

<3 your work so far with this next patch. Keen to see what else is on the roadmap...

Otto Bismarck

Do you have a better idea for stopping caps being immortal in low sec?

Onyx

Caldari Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage
5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Missile velocity
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Shield Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 6M, 4L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers
Fittings: 900(+65) PWG, 560 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2700(+696) / 1200(+4) / 1400(-6)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1250(+187.5) / 335s / 3.73(+0.56)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 200(+2) / 0.55(+0.001) / 15,400,000(-20,000) / 11.74s()
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 80km / 240(+5) / 7(+1)
Sensor strength: 19(+3)
Signature radius: 150(+15)
Cargo Capacity: 450

The only thing this does is ensure that, if you are already losing the fight, you will definitely lose your cap.

There is no need for this change as all you would need to do to stop the cap from jumping and then cynoing, is bring two HIC or make sure your HIC is not aggressed if the enemy cap isn't.

@Fozzie you should probably have also put the fact interdictor bubbles are getting halved in size in this thread too.

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

LOL - why this new stupid mechanic, why only those ships? So you force them to use stargates and now new improvment to NOT use them? Makes logic

@ CCP Fozzie, please can you confirm that the bonuses on the onyx will actually apply to all missiles or are they restricted to the HM & HAMs like currently?

Can we get focused point to negate MJD usage?

The damage bonuses apply to all missiles.

The damage bonuses apply to all missiles.

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

Yes Yes Yes Yes...... don't know about the docking thing but would be cool... but stopping people running away is a good thing.....

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

The problem with that idea is people would definitely cloak and perma camp nullsec stations. Especially NPC stations and you'd have absolutely not chance of escape. That system has no effect on lowsec, and in nullsec could be way over powered in the hands of a simply superior numbered group. Someone like PL could lock down half of curse and have plenty of kills to show for it, but in the process literally make the space unusable till they left the area.

Did you not think about the lock time delay after uncloaking a non-covert operations ship? I.e they uncloak and you have some time to just re-dock or warp out before they can point you.
You also did not think about the fact that you might be pointed but you can slow boat/AB/MWD out of there range and warp off.
You could undock and kill them.

This is a perfect time to change the Warp Disruption Field Generator II. Currently Hictor points do not stop MJD's. This makes little sense to me as the same point can prevent a supercapital ship from warping or jumping. I would like to see the Tech 2 Warp Disruption Field Generator be able to stop MJD's. That would give a purpose to the long training of Graviton Physics 5. Leaving the tech one variant unable to stop MJD's is perfectly fine.

why is devoter only one getting drones?

Please conside giving hics some sort of penalty they are very usefull ships as it , the new changes are more then cool . I just dont see how a 50 man cap fleet going threw gates ( because they have to ) can be fully stoped in 3-4 jumps by 2 players in 2 hics (and it beeing fair) . Beeing able to slow em down i can understand but if those pilots know what they are doing they will shut it down not just slow it down .
Consider something around the lines of , when a hic uses the warp distrupt gen its unable to move for the duration and has a sig penalty of 1000x its current size .
I realise there is a option to get multiple jump alts and pilots to move cap fleets around , but i refuse to see it as a viable option and not a marketing scheme designed to make more funds .

Please conside giving hics some sort of penalty they are very usefull ships as it , the new changes are more then cool . I just dont see how a 50 man cap fleet going threw gates ( because they have to ) can be fully stoped in 3-4 jumps by 2 players in 2 hics (and it beeing fair) . Beeing able to slow em down i can understand but if those pilots know what they are doing they will shut it down not just slow it down .
Consider something around the lines of , when a hic uses the warp distrupt gen its unable to move for the duration and has a sig penalty of 1000x its current size .
I realise there is a option to get multiple jump alts and pilots to move cap fleets around , but i refuse to see it as a viable option and not a marketing scheme designed to make more funds .

I prefer to have a shooter cycle, than too much resistance.

Because when you put too much resistance, we can abuse with fleet of heavy dictor and logistics.

Also, why only capital, that will be great for all ship and really also for wormhole. It's still to easy to pass the hole without risk.

That will be more difficult to collapse wormhole (more risk). Because now it's joke.

You're forgetting lock times, they'd be uncatchable.

Also, why only capital, that will be great for all ship and really also for wormhole. It's still to easy to pass the hole without risk.

That will be more difficult to collapse wormhole (more risk). Because now it's joke.

why is devoter only one getting drones?

This is a perfect time to change the Warp Disruption Field Generator II. Currently Hictor points do not stop MJD's. This makes little sense to me as the same point can prevent a supercapital ship from warping or jumping. I would like to see the Tech 2 Warp Disruption Field Generator be able to stop MJD's. That would give a purpose to the long training of Graviton Physics 5. Leaving the tech one variant unable to stop MJD's is perfectly fine.

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This is to counter the power of brawling with your caps on lowsec gates, and if things go bad jumping through and cynoing out since nobody can bubble the other side.

Also, why only capital, that will be great for all ship and really also for wormhole. It's still to easy to pass the hole without risk.

That will be more difficult to collapse wormhole (more risk). Because now it's joke.

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

Agreed. Why not make the HIC prevent stargate jumps for ALL ships, not just Capitals?

Agreed. Why not make the HIC prevent stargate jumps for ALL ships, not just Capitals?

This kills the gatecrash.
Awful idea.

So you're saying, after slowboating 10km with my dreadnaught I now should also be prevented from jumping through?

why is devoter only one getting drones?

This is a perfect time to change the Warp Disruption Field Generator II. Currently Hictor points do not stop MJD's. This makes little sense to me as the same point can prevent a supercapital ship from warping or jumping. I would like to see the Tech 2 Warp Disruption Field Generator be able to stop MJD's. That would give a purpose to the long training of Graviton Physics 5. Leaving the tech one variant unable to stop MJD's is perfectly fine.

Could you possibly extend the Infinipoint's new ability to all ships and make it block station docking as well?

It would be reasonable end to station games if players can't simply dock/redock if a HIC is on field. Also, it would allow a small gang fleet to pick off a blob's stragglers by catching one or two from the herd when the fleet jumps.

Out of curiosity, did you consider the idea of a new WDFG script that generates a bubble preventing jump drive use, but not interdicting warp drives? This seems like a more elegant fix for lowsec.

why is devoter only one getting drones?

Fozzie. CAn I ask you to rethink this nonsense you guys have been doing when balancing Minamtar shield tanked ships when comapred to caldari? The clear example is here, Broadsword is a clear shield tanker as the onix. BUT the broadsword gets MASSIVELY less shiedl HP because it gets more armor EHP. THat is NOT balanced. The armorHP on the broadsword is IRRELEVANT because it is a shield tanker.

BY makign minmatar so much averagish on everythign you make them STRICTLY worse on a realistic scenario.

There is NO logical reason why the onix shoudl have that MUCH more shield HP than the broadsword.

On other hand.. the natural GOOD sides of minmar you have been pretty happy at murderign since the start of tiercide ( as their mobility advantage have been reduced on almsot every single isntance of a tiercide balance pass).

siege should give you a weapon timer just like bastion gives you one.

Devoter

Amarr Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret capacitor use
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 3M, 7L; 5(+1) turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1265 PWG, 368 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1100(-293) / 2400(+312) / 1800(+112)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1625 / 335s / 4.85
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 215(+12) / 0.51(-0.084) / 16,200,000(+1,000,000) / 11.45s(-1.07)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25(+25) / 50(+50)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 65km(+10) / 250(-10) / 6(-1)
Sensor strength: 15
Signature radius: 140
Cargo Capacity: 375(+95)

I thought we were getting rid of the cap use bonuses on Amarr ships?

... can sieged dreads still jump through gates?

Phobos

Gallente Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret tracking
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret rate of fire

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 4M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1165 PWG, 375 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1300(+140) / 2200(+160) / 2500(-31)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1375 / 335s / 4.1 <<+++
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 205(-4) / 0.58(+0.0285) / 14,000,000(-1,080,000) / 11.26s(-0.88)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km(+5) / 250(+25) / 6
Sensor strength: 17(+2)
Signature radius: 160
Cargo Capacity: 400(+85)

Let us know what you think!

Out of curiosity, did you consider the idea of a new WDFG script that generates a bubble preventing jump drive use, but not interdicting warp drives? This seems like a more elegant fix for lowsec.

We're also making one significant addition to the focused point script:

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This is to counter the power of brawling with your caps on lowsec gates, and if things go bad jumping through and cynoing out since nobody can bubble the other side.

I think the WDFG focused point preventing the use of stargates by capitals is contrived. You're obviously worried about losec gate fights here where there is no non-targeted interdiction (i.e. no bubbles), as well you should be, so why not introduce a form of non-target interdiction to counter it?

Introduce a new script for WDFGs that puts up a bubble that only jams jump drives, not warp drives, and allow this script to be used in losec (in addition to nullsec and WH space). Keep a HIC on the other side of the gate with this bubble up and boom, problem solved. Not to mention making for some interesting gameplay opportunities at losec POSes, losec stations, etc.

EDIT:
Bah! Beat me to it....

Phobos should have drones too. Also why can Rorquals be prevented from jumping through gates? It's not like they are combat ships (so no danger of them being in a cap fight and escaping to low sec anyway). But please add the ability to disable MWDs with that focussed Point Script. If it can tackle a titan it sure as hell should be able to do what a T1 Frig with the cheapest Scram can do.

Do you just dislike Capital pilots in general? Over a year in skills and expensive skill books and month of making the parts. Feel like that was a year plus of wasted time in EVE? Can you put astricks beside ships that look nice now but once you buy the skill books and spend time in the skills they will be nerfed? :) fatigue you! :)

Here's the Heavy Interdictor changes! The main thrust of the rebalance is to give all of the hictors a more robust secondary combat role. We'd like taking an occasional hictor along with a roaming fleet to feel fine even if you don't expect to run into a supercap.

Firstly, we are enabling overheat for Warp Disruption Field Generators with an overheat bonus that reduced cycle time by 1/3. This allows a hictor pilot to strategically reduce the cycle time of his bubble so that he can quickly disable it and receive reps if he gets primaried.

We're also making one significant addition to the focused point script:

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This is to counter the power of brawling with your caps on lowsec gates, and if things go bad jumping through and cynoing out since nobody can bubble the other side.

And here are the stat changes themselves:

Devoter

Amarr Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret capacitor use
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 3M, 7L; 5(+1) turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1265 PWG, 368 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1100(-293) / 2400(+312) / 1800(+112)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1625 / 335s / 4.85
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 215(+12) / 0.51(-0.084) / 16,200,000(+1,000,000) / 11.45s(-1.07)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25(+25) / 50(+50)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 65km(+10) / 250(-10) / 6(-1)
Sensor strength: 15
Signature radius: 140
Cargo Capacity: 375(+95)


Onyx

Caldari Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage
5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Missile velocity
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Shield Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 6M, 4L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers
Fittings: 900(+65) PWG, 560 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2700(+696) / 1200(+4) / 1400(-6)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1250(+187.5) / 335s / 3.73(+0.56)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 200(+2) / 0.55(+0.001) / 15,400,000(-20,000) / 11.74s()
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 80km / 240(+5) / 7(+1)
Sensor strength: 19(+3)
Signature radius: 150(+15)
Cargo Capacity: 450


Phobos

Gallente Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret tracking
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret rate of fire

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 4M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1165 PWG, 375 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1300(+140) / 2200(+160) / 2500(-31)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1375 / 335s / 4.1
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 205(-4) / 0.58(+0.0285) / 14,000,000(-1,080,000) / 11.26s(-0.88)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km(+5) / 250(+25) / 6
Sensor strength: 17(+2)
Signature radius: 160
Cargo Capacity: 400(+85)


Broadsword

Minmatar Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret falloff
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Shield Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Slot layout: 6H, 6M, 4L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1050 PWG, 392 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2000(+418) / 1600(-404) / 1400(-6)
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 1250 / 335s / 3.73
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 220(+6) / 0.55(-0.0215) / 15,000,000(+180,000) / 11.44s(-0.3)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 255(+10) / 6(+1)
Sensor strength: 14(+1)
Signature radius: 130
Cargo Capacity: 452

Let us know what you think!

Here's the Heavy Interdictor changes! The main thrust of the rebalance is to give all of the hictors a more robust secondary combat role.

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

. Please give the focused warp disruption script the ability to disable micro jump drives and micro warp drives like regular warp scramblers do, these ships could be really cool for skirmish PVP if you give us that buff..

You should add the JF to that list.

I woud prefer an all or nthig aproch for focused Scripts,.

Preferable No MJD,

How about heavy interdictors stopping nullified ships?

You're not worried that would hurt Gallente Recons?

How about you stop relying on camps for everything and pursue hard-to-catch targets off gate if you really want them dead.

Sorry for asking this but what is a Recon ship?

So far I have read about them here and some other threads but I cannot find those.. Will they be introduced at some point in the future?

Liking what I see with the Phobos!

why is devoter only one getting drones?

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When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

This. Why Phobos no drone? I can live with Onyx not getting them. Tis Caldari. But Amarr gets drones and not Gallente? Makes no sense, brah.

On another note, it occurred to me that having the focused point work its anti-jump magic vs all ships would be pretty cool. But then we might see HICs Online sooner rather than later. Thoughts?

No anti-gate mechanics vs jump freighters?

So, resist bonuses move to a fixed 20% role bonus and replaced with a RoF bonus. So more dps. I'm ok with that.

Devoter got +1 turret.
I see more base tank in a couple cases. Looks legit.

+1 for changes.

No, it's not.
It would just make gate camps/station camps more powerful.
This is not good gameplay, because ppl have to undock/jump blindly and are then faced with inevitable death.
In the short run, lazy campers will cheer, in the long run, people will avoid jumping and undocking - which is a bad thing.

The damage bonuses apply to all missiles.

No, it's not.
It would just make gate camps/station camps more powerful.
This is not good gameplay, because ppl have to undock/jump blindly and are then faced with inevitable death.
In the short run, lazy campers will cheer, in the long run, people will avoid jumping and undocking - which is a bad thing.

My suggestion for HIC buff is to make the scripted point into a scram.

First time I used my HIC, I honestly couldn't believe that this expensive T2 cruiser with a skill intensive speciality module that also makes you immune to reps couldn't catch a T1 frigate because it doesn't warp scramble!?~!!

Could we get Infinite Points to turn off Micro Jump Drives again?

...
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be sarcastic or not. I must need to take my sarcasm meter to the shop.

Agreed. Why not make the HIC prevent stargate jumps for ALL ships, not just Capitals?

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

Im curious as to why Scrams/Disruptors havent been able to prevent gate jumping for a long time now.. too easy for ppl to play gate games in low sec
Just my 2 cents
Liking the Onyx ideas btw

I am also curious why long points and scrams do not make your targets explode immediately. The hassle it take to also have to work for a killmail makes me almost sad.

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

This is a good idea!

You might be being too harsh on him elitatwo, There should be absolutely zero way to escape a gatecamp.
god forbid someone has to not aggress in an inty and jump through to catch someone who crashes gate.
Please note the sarcasm in the above two lines

Stopping non-agressed ships from jumping or docking would be way broken.
Sorry Monumental Inscriptionist, if getting kills when you outnumber some one 10 to 1 in a camp is too hard for you

We're also making one significant addition to the focused point script:

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

Can we also get it so the focused interdiction script disables mwd? I know it might be a little too much to ask for, but it DOES have very specific limitations to the ship; It would be an extremely useful thing to have in lowsec pvp.

When a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier or Titan is pointed by a focused point they will not be able to jump through gates.

Firstly, we are enabling overheat for Warp Disruption Field Generators with an overheat bonus that reduced cycle time by 1/3.

I don't see how this is a re-balance throwing a few hp here and there where was the re-balance I think I missed it. Cycle reduction is barely going to help hic pilots still going to die just as quick. As it stands now I don't see them being used at a greater capacity even with these changes then they are now. I feel as though this is just throwing the final nail into hic's. Sorry CCP but this is not a change its throwing 2 new descriptions and keeping them just as useless.

can the focused point script at least act as a scram to counter mjd? that would certainly make hics more useful again outside of its anti-capital role.

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If the superheat will be included in the next cycle, it is easier to turn off the device.

Firstly, we are enabling overheat for Warp Disruption Field Generators with an overheat bonus that reduced cycle time by 1/3. This allows a hictor pilot to strategically reduce the cycle time of his bubble so that he can quickly disable it and receive reps if he gets primaried.

I really can't see the advantage of this. The module can't be overheated until the current cycle ends. If you are primaried, you still can't end the current cycle.

I'm not impressed with the changes, which is kinda expected, knowing who is responsible for them. First, HICs are not about DPS - so drone bays on them are next to useless, as well as weapon bonuses (I would leave one weapon bonus matching the racial weapon type and replace others with something more useful when you fight a super, like bonus to sensor strength or reduction to neuted capacitor amount).

I also say no to Focused points preventing gate jumps. Have another HIC on the other side as we don't want for every lowsec slumlord group being able to tackle supers long enough so they can batphone anyone they can think of. To prevent caps from cynoing out after they jump through, have the gate cloak stop cap regeneration on a Rorqual, Dreadnaught, Carrier, Supercarrier and Titan.

But being able to overheat Warp Disruption Field Generators is probably the most unsensible change herel - if you want to save primaried HICs, halve both their duration and capacitor need (you did that with Target Painter some time ago IIRC). Overheating is not a concept that can be realistically applicable to some modules, Warp Disruption Field Generators being one of them.

No, it's not.
It would just make gate camps/station camps more powerful.
This is not good gameplay, because ppl have to undock/jump blindly and are then faced with inevitable death.
In the short run, lazy campers will cheer, in the long run, people will avoid jumping and undocking - which is a bad thing.

why not but pls

Remove this false bonus on the devoter



You have already remove this false bonus and a lot of ship, pls make the same on the devoter.

Also about your resistance bonus, if you give to much bonus resistance, We can make some fleet with only heavy interdictor.

The best way will be to put the bonus only when you have your warp disruption field generator active.

Also the warp diruptor must can stop the capital or subcapital to use wormhole, with the script active.

Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

I really can't see the advantage of this. The module can't be overheated until the current cycle ends. If you are primaried, you still can't end the current cycle.

Im curious as to why Scrams/Disruptors havent been able to prevent gate jumping for a long time now.. too easy for ppl to play gate games in low sec
Just my 2 cents
Liking the Onyx ideas btw

Can we also get it so the focused interdiction script disables mwd? I know it might be a little too much to ask for, but it DOES have very specific limitations to the ship; It would be an extremely useful thing to have in lowsec pvp.

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Firstly, we are enabling overheat for Warp Disruption Field Generators with an overheat bonus that reduced cycle time by 1/3. This allows a hictor pilot to strategically reduce the cycle time of his bubble so that he can quickly disable it and receive reps if he gets primaried.

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Make the focus point stop all ships from going through a stargate, will encourage people to bring hics and stop the stargate games.

Maybe also prevent docking?

Hey Fozzie,

Here's a quick idea. Why not give the HICs a "bastion mode"-like feature item. Interdiction mode - this will allow you to have a greater bubble range, higher resists but it stops your ship, decreases sensor strength, damage or rof

On the other hand you could make the HIC itself a bit more dps-ish and agile for smaller fleets.

That would probably help more than the current features and might be good thing considering the soonTM changes and upcoming more frequent cap battles.

Why Jump/Freighters are not on the list.
Make this for all capital ships.

I know this will make logistic even bigger nightmare - but thats the point to heal current situation.
You cannot put gate bubbles in lowsec , so this is possible solution.

Can we get "ultra focused script" for hictor ?
When this script is applied - you have twice the range of focused point , but it will only work against capital ships.

Devoter

Amarr Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret capacitor use
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Onyx

Caldari Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage
5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Missile velocity
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Shield Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Phobos

Gallente Cruiser Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret tracking
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret rate of fire

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret optimal range
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Armor Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Broadsword

Minmatar Cruiser Bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret rate of fire
5% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret damage

Heavy Interdictor Bonuses:
10% bonus to Medium Projectile Turret falloff
5% bonus to range of Warp Disruption Fields

Role Bonus:
20% bonus to all Shield Resists
Can fit Warp Disruption Field Generators

Let us know what you think!