I stand corrected... You raise interest rates. welp.

Fixed your post.

its 1.2+ bill a day if you put in a 9 hour day and have a good fleet run



let me say this, that's before you convert LPs to isk,

Wow, that's really impressive. You gotta feel sorry for those miners earning a paltry 5m per hour. A miner has to play 200 hours just to earn that much. Really CCP just delete half the occupations on EVE. They are completely unviable now since they have no chance of earning enough to buy a Plex. Sandbox my a$$...

But you can go anywhere in highsec (faction standings notwithstanding), and go there without risk. Players who want to run incursions in highsec can run one, then go and do the next one as soon as it appears. Highsec incursions also get completed, so all the pilots who participated get massive LP payouts.

In nullsec, there's only one or two incursions going on at once, and nullsec is a big place when you can't just autopilot your faction battleships around with impunity. If an incursion does appear nearby, you can sometimes rustle up a small gang to go and run the Vanguard sites for an hour or so. But you have to get the right numbers and fleet composition before you all set off, which takes a good 20 minutes, then the time it takes to fly the 20 jumps out to the incursion itself, run it for an hour or so before someone has to leave, and then fly 20 jumps home again. Because you have to travel - often through hostile territory - you can't just have a waiting list of people to join your fleet when someone has to go.

NBSI rules of engagement apply, so you can't just get together with some randoms from a hostile alliance to run the bigger sites with you - they'd rather just fight you. And because it's only a few of you running low-end sites sporadically, those nullsec incursions are very rarely completed. So no shiny BPCs, and no LP.

Incursions in nullsec are more lucrative than belt or anomaly ratting, hour-for-hour, but preparing for them is also a lot of hassle, and they're certainly nowhere near the cash cow of their highsec equivalents.

However, Null Sec needs a SERIOUS isk faucet increase to draw the pilots back out there and feel they aren't grinding EVE just to get a few hours of pvp in.

Last year, few hours anoms = days of pvp.

These days, Days of anoms = hours of pvp.

This needs to change FAST.

4. There are easier ways to make more isk. Try to find them. Hint: Isk Faucets are limited, try instead to make isk eddy and pool in your wallet.

Yes you can, more depending on how non-******** your fleet is.

In fact a CERTAIN PERSON I know who lost a CERTAIN STRATEGIC CRUISER because he is a BAD PILOT WHO DOES STUPID THINGS FOR NO REASON AND FLYS BADLY AND I HATE HIM replaced his multi-billion isk loss completely via incursions in about a day.

sooo many nullsec carebears whining and winging about this but forgetting ther precious sanctums,faction and officer spawns in BLUE space with free intel in local and intel channels for the next 20 systems 110% reward for 0% risk and yet they still winge about hsec

You can stay in highsec and bear it up 'till your heart's content, for all I care. But highsec incursions are wrecking the economy. That's why the need nerfing - it's got nothing to do with encouraging people into nullsec (though that would be nice too).

Encouraging people into nullsec? Quit camping the effin pipes!

Greedy idiots who play only for more and more ISK,
don't have any real reason to play anyway.

It's one of the lowest reasons to play,
because it's only to satisfy the lowest of all instinct.

Collect worthless stuff and feel great about it,
and worst part is, they want to do it in the easiest, risk averse way possible.

And they are ruining the game with their attitude.

I hope low life scum like that dies early.

Basically, if I decided to drop all sov and run my alliance off incursion taxes and low sec moons, I could in essence be a much more wealthy alliance with less overhead.

What you and so many people seem to miss is that null sec space needs to hold value for the solo, casual player to log in, make some isk and log out. The space itself needs to have that value OVER empire space not because we want more of you out here, simply because it's the basic principle of what EVE was built off of.

A solar system in null sec, no matter the security status should never be worth less for a solo, casual player to make an income than that of a .5 system that has the protection of Concord.

Ever.

You can stay in highsec and bear it up 'till your heart's content, for all I care. But highsec incursions are wrecking the economy. That's why the need nerfing - it's got nothing to do with encouraging people into nullsec (though that would be nice too).

And this is the fault of whom? High-sec dwellers? Nope, you complain about not being able to run the null sec incursions yet the only obstacle blocking yourself is not one put in place by CCP.. It's put in place by your "OWN" Alliances & Corps that Live out there.

The Solutions are there, staring all you null sec peeps in the face yet if your Leaders can't work together for the sake of helping out their members.. well, say no more.

But to come whining to the forums is oh so facepalm

So all the nullsec alliances should to get together and blue each other, in an even bigger NAPfest circlejerk than we have already, so that we can all run incursions together and sing kumbaya, right?

You are a tool. Get the **** out.

NRDS.

They mad thay can't afk and bot incursions. Nullbears need to keep their QQ off hisec .

You can make 120m isk/h. However good luck in keeping that stream constant.

its completely obvious that incursions need a huge swing of the bat, asap.

in fairness to those of you trying desperately to claim that:

1.they dont make that much ISK
2.nullbears need to keep the hell out of highsec
3.incursions are difficult and complicated
4.other reasons

I would also be shouting to defend my trillion ISK income source if they tried to nerf it.

Doesnt change the fact it needs it.

The point you are missing is that some people can make that money off of them, not everyone.

Every single person can make money off missions.

Big difference between 70 mil an hour 'for certain' and 120 mil an hour 'maybe'.