You(op) sound like Yossarian from Catch 22.

I do PI in low-sec and all I ever see are noob-ships and cynos.

How did lowsec become the parking lot from the movie Dawn of the Dead?


What are these people doing when nobody is trying to pass through their gate camps?

I like that movie Book.

Check out OP's killboard page; he used to live in null-sec and has been out in low-sec shooting people on quite a few occasions. So, either he's a complete troll or he refuses to learn how to get around space. In either case, advice is not what he needs.

*snip*

...which is why I won't even bother telling you the 8 things you did wrong here.

I only really feel safe entering that lowsec pocket I used to live in, even with the new residents.

Oohh...

Please tell me, I'd like to know. Send me an EVE Mail if you like...

People constantly go after me for suggesting the boogyman is around every corner in lowsec, anyone, everyone + their alts and PL dreads are all after you specifically you and only you just because you are in lowsec.

So I hadn't entered lowsec in months but the *content* decided to send me there, and while most supposed "carebears" would not do it I decided I would, since there might be an A-type in it at the end. Lets face it though, everyone is considered a carebear of some sort by everyone else.


So I get my destroyer, the first jump is clear, second jump is a full overview gatecamp, and the game decided that this was the jump to not select the next stargate but the previous stargate, so I lost my pod too. Wouldn't have mattered, I tried again with a tristan, all lows and rigs with low friction nozzle joints and nanofiber hull, lost that but jumped through.

I docked at a station, but what do you know? Only t2 modules for sale in the land of bittervets who love camping. So I fit a tristan and undock *instadied*, figures...

So I fit another one? The guy looted my wreck and left, thankfully the site was only a few frigates, but nothing dropped except a meta autocannon, i'm surprised at this point I wasn't probed down before even seeing the probed on d-scan, like what happened to my astero with that ancillary shield interceptor whom I obviously wasn't going to be able to kill because *one module to rule them all* ancillaries being as OP as they are.


So at least I left lowsec alive, the whole gatecamp jumped through with me, but only locked me and didn't scram. Maybe they figured it wasn't worth the kill this time, and I can't even get anything off the killrights, because 2 out of the 3 have a billion + in bounty and are all minus security status, even if they entered highsec who would need the killright to shoot?


Lowsec is "murphies law online". Might be a reason right there why so few use the "lowsec content". Won't be making that mistake again. Where's the reward for my risk? People suggest better ships, but why throw more isk into the grinder? That obviously doesn't make sense.

Edit: fixed some of the mangled words.

It would result in much, much less conflict.

Because one of the few places you can actually catch people is on gates.

And as for making people want to live in lowsec, the solution is simple. Highsec needs to be savagely nerfed, so it doesn't overshadow lowsec.

Highsec has been nerfed enough, buff low and null.

Highsec has been nerfed enough, buff low and null.

The problem with lowsec isn't rewards, its the pathetic gatecamps that stifle play.

If anything highsec needs massive buffs to counteract the gankers/wardeccers/awoxers, etc.... and to make it more profitable than ultra safe blue donut space.

The opposite is true. If anything it needs nerfed to counteract the true causes of inflation. Chief among them are those incursion runners who just sit around and grind all day, bringing everyone else's plex prices up with their fattening themselves in complete safety.

Such nonsense, if incursions were flooding eve with cheap isk not only would plex be inflating but SO WOULD EVERYTHING ELSE AT AN EQUAL RATE.

Instead, everything else is actually DEFLATING.

Diagnosis - too much easy mining (especially in nullsec) and TOO LITTLE NEW ISK.

What you should really advocate for is higher highsec incursion rewards to balance the excessive mining and combat the dangerous deflation that is driving up plex prices.

Keep defending the golden goose, Tears.

But we all know that increasing average wealth without corresponding loss causes inflation. That's pretty much the definition.

And the major culprit of that is highsec incursions, since it's the most consistent personal income in the game. You guys are printing money there, thanks largely to the over buffed safety of highsec. You fatten yourselves up at the expense of the rest of the game. Despicable.

Inflation isn't about how much isk is in circulation

You heard it here folks. Inflation has nothing to do with currency devaluation.

Currency devaluation???? Relative to what? That requires foreign currencies...eve has none.....I mean come on. If stuff is deflating (or deflating relative to Plex) that means that the rate of material growth exceeds the rate of isk growth. Your enemy should be mining, not incursions (and if isk growth really was your target, you should go after bounties).

Edit - maybe you mean currency depreciation? But that also requires foreign currencies....and this would not explain inflation/deflation in a self contained economy relative to goods.

Wait...what? So now you're an economic expert too Veers? You ARE one of the incursion runners...so of course you'd defend those actions. I have nothing against lucrative aspects of Eve..I do however have issues with the ability to do so without any risk. I know all too well how incursion fleets work..there is little risk unless you take someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Like Kaarous said, it is being used as an isk press and it is hurting the market..which honestly, I don't care about..but others do. The solution would be to make incursions occur only in low or null sec...then the risk would be equal to the rewards imo...you wouldn't dare fly that shiny nightmare into a lowsec/nullsec pocket..now that's risk vs reward..

People constantly go after me for suggesting the boogyman is around every corner in lowsec, anyone, everyone + their alts and PL dreads are all after you specifically you and only you just because you are in lowsec.

So I hadn't entered lowsec in months but the *content* decided to send me there, and while most supposed "carebears" would not do it I decided I would, since there might be an A-type in it at the end. Lets face it though, everyone is considered a carebear of some sort by everyone else.


So I get my destroyer, the first jump is clear, second jump is a full overview gatecamp, and the game decided that this was the jump to not select the next stargate but the previous stargate, so I lost my pod too. Wouldn't have mattered, I tried again with a tristan, all lows and rigs with low friction nozzle joints and nanofiber hull, lost that but jumped through.

I docked at a station, but what do you know? Only t2 modules for sale in the land of bittervets who love camping. So I fit a tristan and undock *instadied*, figures...

So I fit another one? The guy looted my wreck and left, thankfully the site was only a few frigates, but nothing dropped except a meta autocannon, i'm surprised at this point I wasn't probed down before even seeing the probed on d-scan, like what happened to my astero with that ancillary shield interceptor whom I obviously wasn't going to be able to kill because *one module to rule them all* ancillaries being as OP as they are.


So at least I left lowsec alive, the whole gatecamp jumped through with me, but only locked me and didn't scram. Maybe they figured it wasn't worth the kill this time, and I can't even get anything off the killrights, because 2 out of the 3 have a billion + in bounty and are all minus security status, even if they entered highsec who would need the killright to shoot?


Lowsec is "murphies law online". Might be a reason right there why so few use the "lowsec content". Won't be making that mistake again. Where's the reward for my risk? People suggest better ships, but why throw more isk into the grinder? That obviously doesn't make sense.

Edit: fixed some of the mangled words.

As to the rest....Incursions are far, far risker than L4s, than AFK carrier ratting in Deklein, than AFK mining in sov null, than escalations in well controlled wormhole space, etc... Basically, the player powerblocs have made their space vastly safer than empire can ever be.

while in high sec in most cases you only have to worry if you make yourself a target.