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knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
476
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:41:24 -
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Sentamon wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. Yup nerf all things that threaten the rich boy club of nullsec.
High sec incursions nerf it is then. |

Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
573
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:41:57 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:RIP Code and Miniluv gankers 
Ohhh, hisec elite pvp smacktalk!
This thread is going places. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1133
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:41:58 -
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Taram Caldar wrote:War Kitten wrote:Mierin Arthie wrote:How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch That doesn't broadcast, it just changes where input goes - it should be fine. Wrong it broadcasts a single command to multiple systems Still applies. Seriously people.... reading comprehension
Not even close to accurate. You can simulate a KVM by unplugging your keyboard and plugging it into a second computer.
KVMs should be just fine, if you want to set up a few dozen PCs to play EVE Online with. (Don't do this.) |

Aerious
Homegrown Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:42:37 -
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Goon tears are the best tears! |

Lord Ra
Section XII
23
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:43:45 -
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Ive snipped out the audio file 'The Asteroid Is Depleted' with audacity and placed it on sound cloud if any ISBOXER users would like it as a message tone for your phones?.
Good Change 10/10 :)
Ra |

Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
1289
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:43:49 -
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And about time too! GG CCP.
[b]Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee"
Undocking - More Routes Out of Station[/b]
Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up!
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1133
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:44:26 -
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Aerious wrote:Goon tears are the best tears!
You may be misunderstanding a different liquid for tears. This is the best news all month. |

kraken11 jensen
Californian CottonPickers
2
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:44:27 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Damn, lot of folks pitching in on this and more even as I write.
ISBoxer is not banned, what it sometimes does IS. This has the benefit of if you make a new program called ASSBoxer that does the same as ISBoxer you have not found a way around the bans. If you use chopsticks and rubberbands to duplicate you have not found a way around. It is not the tool it is the application of it that is at issue.
I think this is a good move. It may cost a few short term, losses but I think a lot of players will appreciate the chance to be on even footing or forced to be with other players to do a group activity (one of the M's in mMo)
and I know I forgot to ask earlier . . . but yeah, I am helping out the FLOOD of new players coming into the game and so if you want to hand over the assets of a multibox mining fleet I will see that they get a good home and USED by individual players.
which is what I like
m
lol, Brodcast to all accounts is not even needed mining. Fleet Warp, + swapping between accounts With an Nice screen setup, (whitch isboxer can be used to do) i would never use brodcast to all while mining, (like, who need to all mine same rock)? would not seem that smart. (i dont even like mining) lol |

KeeperRus
Exanimo Inc Gentlemen's.Club
2
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:44:40 -
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HAHAHA! Love how people think that the sales are gonna go like crazy on the forums. No, it goes like this: If your going to quit because of it... Selling your account does not matter now does it?
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corebloodbrothers
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
674
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:44:45 -
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About time, several csm have been vocal about this. This is not about a tool, but about its use and what it does too eve. Its very clear that if u use a tool to run a bomber wing by mutiplying single inout too multiple accounts its illegal.
Poeple doubting that like to cause drama, ratehr then actually reading the excact words.
Any drop in accounts will be countered by the fact that others stay in this game, cause they dont get blown up by 1 cheating dude. Also compairing it with a normal bomber wing is silly. They lands not at excat same time, giving bubles and tackle a change, and the darwin law is mutiplied by 700% since people are people
Also the dude iskboxing 20 mining accounts wasnt going to use those too activly use those to make eve a more exciting place, rather then his own gain.
How that affects plex ,we ll see once it balances out. I am proud to ccp make again a choice out of principle rather then money. Blink, and the null sec changes, and this one show a new decade where ccp is in control of their destiny and game
One proud csm member! |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
768
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:44:51 -
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How dare you making this game a healthy and better for everyone...what about ME! |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4273
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:45:06 -
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Lord Ra wrote:Ive snipped out the audio file 'The Asteroid Is Depleted' with audacity and placed it on sound cloud if any ISBOXER users would like it as a message tone for your phones?.
Good Change 10/10 :)
Ra
https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/eve-online-aura-the-asteroid?in=ccpgames/sets/aura 
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:45:07 -
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RoAnnon wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. Sure, that's logical, since an AFK cloaked pilot has absolutely no way to interact with the game at all... perfect sense there... 
CCP is directly nerfing the force projection that one player can have affect on others in Eve.
What do you think afk cloaking is?

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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
330
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:46:07 -
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War Kitten wrote:Taram Caldar wrote:War Kitten wrote:Mierin Arthie wrote:How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch That doesn't broadcast, it just changes where input goes - it should be fine. Wrong it broadcasts a single command to multiple systems Still applies. Seriously people.... reading comprehension No, that's not what a KVM switch does. It is a switch that allows you to select which system to send input to. It's 1:1.
It should also be noted that there ARE keyboard and mouse multiplexers which allow you to broadcast commands to multiple systems at once (I used to use them when I had to do system setups for my employer), and those would be bannable.
A bitter vet trying to start anew.
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
933
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:47:32 -
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DragonHelm III wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Ama Scelesta wrote:RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. For god's sake CCP stop all the bluster and give a straight answer ISBOXER banned or not? It just needs a yes or no All this crap about terms like Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing mean squat to me as I have no idea what they are.
CCP can't really ban a single program because there are hundreds of duplicates out there. Also there are programs simar to isboxer without the input automation or multi broadcasting that people use.
Policies still mud but it's a step in the right direction.
This is hardly a rage thread. The amount of bombers about to be sold is going to be staggering.
Yaay!!!!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14008
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:48:05 -
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Aerious wrote:Goon tears are the best tears!
Yep, we are positively flooding the forums with rage over how badly one man high sec mining and incursion fleets have been nerfed.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1135
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:48:53 -
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corebloodbrothers wrote:Also the dude iskboxing 20 mining accounts wasnt going to use those too activly use those to make eve a more exciting place, rather then his own gain.
"The dude" is up to over 80, actually, according ot the iskboxer dev.
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Toria Nynys
Surly Dinos
1
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:50:21 -
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With everyone screaming about unsubbing as a result of that I just have to pipe up with:
+4 accounts re-subbed while my ISK lasts and 1 with $. After thinking about it longer this is a fantastic and long overdue policy change.
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
933
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:50:41 -
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corebloodbrothers wrote:About time, several csm have been vocal about this. This is not about a tool, but about its use and what it does too eve. Its very clear that if u use a tool to run a bomber wing by mutiplying single inout too multiple accounts its illegal.
Poeple doubting that like to cause drama, ratehr then actually reading the excact words.
Any drop in accounts will be countered by the fact that others stay in this game, cause they dont get blown up by 1 cheating dude. Also compairing it with a normal bomber wing is silly. They lands not at excat same time, giving bubles and tackle a change, and the darwin law is mutiplied by 700% since people are people
Also the dude iskboxing 20 mining accounts wasnt going to use those too activly use those to make eve a more exciting place, rather then his own gain.
How that affects plex ,we ll see once it balances out. I am proud to ccp make again a choice out of principle rather then money. Blink, and the null sec changes, and this one show a new decade where ccp is in control of their destiny and game
One proud csm member!
I do have a thought about this. Did this happen to show up due to the recent sov loss with brave, as their 300 man fleet got wiped out by 3 bombing runs?
I wasn't there, but I would think that maybe that was the final nail in the coffin (3 guys take out 300), assuming the 30 man bombing wing was just 3 guys). Regardless, good decision so far.
Yaay!!!!
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
330
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:50:52 -
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Xython wrote:Aerious wrote:Goon tears are the best tears! You may be misunderstanding a different liquid for tears. This is the best news all month.
What other liqui...oh.
Ooohhh. 
Oh that's nasty.
A bitter vet trying to start anew.
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Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:51:13 -
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To quote my previous post in the thread about jump changes..
It's always interesting to see how eager people are to X up and admit they're part of the problem by declaring they're quitting EVE when a problem gets fixed.
Player: I love doing X! CCP and Playerbase: Players doing X is a problem it should get fixed. X get's fixed Player: EVE IS RUINED! I QUIT! CCP and Playerbase rejoices at the fewer number of problems in the game. Player continues being oblivious to the fact that his temper tantrum not only didn't yield the results he so desperately hoped for, but in fact, brought happiness to others instead. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3099
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:51:29 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Imagine if you will a setting whereby there is not enforcement or a lack of regulation about the age of consent to have sex.
Believe it or not, it was like that back in the 1980s. It was quite common for say a 16 yo to date a 14 yo, or an 18 with 15 year old. Nobody really cared as long as the two were teenagers and the "maturity level of the individual" was taken into account.
You know, that whole "she won't date me I'm just a Freshman" clich+¬ from all those dumb films in the 80s.
Now imagine if, lacking regs or enforcement, you have men in their 20s and up dating 12 year old girls. It becomes a bit too much, a bit "in your face" and most of all, a little difficult to pretend it's still OK.
So, there was no problem with the multi box thing, all "within the rules" and an area where while it appeared illegal it was not.....
and then, like the 30 year old dating the 12 year old, suddenly you have entire fleets gratuitously hoovering up entire belts, each pilot not even having a real name, all in the safety of highsec.
If there is one mistake that CCP tends to make, it's the underestimation of the Min-Max player. If there is one little tiny atom-sized little teensy iota of a chance that something will be taken all the way in one direction as the mechanics allow it, then it WILL. If there is a "possibility" of something, anything, and that possibility leads to more ISK or more stats, then that possibility by itself becomes the reality. Thera for example, if the stations can be death bubbled by dictors, it WILL and by people who have all the time in the world for it.
So, while the multibox fleet may be OK per the rules and all that, we have seen the min max sperglords take that all the way to the absurd.
And absurd, even if in the rules, eventually starts to look bad. People get to wondering "what kind of people am I dealing with here?" and nobody is really having a good time when hit with crazy vibes.
:wtc: this is liquified crazy injected into the forums.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries Chelonaphobia
646
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:52:19 -
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So now for the real question.....
Will this generate more of fewer tears than when drone assist gets removed from the game??
(part 4 of the projection nerf) |

Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
573
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:52:38 -
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corebloodbrothers wrote:Any drop in accounts will be countered by the fact that others stay in this game, cause they dont get blown up by 1 cheating dude.
I'm not sure on the correct terminology, help me out on this:
Harden The Flock up?
"Boohoo someone is being unfair in my eve!"
Seriously man? |

kraken11 jensen
Californian CottonPickers
4
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:53:12 -
[625] - Quote
corebloodbrothers wrote:About time, several csm have been vocal about this. This is not about a tool, but about its use and what it does too eve. Its very clear that if u use a tool to run a bomber wing by mutiplying single inout too multiple accounts its illegal.
Poeple doubting that like to cause drama, ratehr then actually reading the excact words.
Any drop in accounts will be countered by the fact that others stay in this game, cause they dont get blown up by 1 cheating dude. Also compairing it with a normal bomber wing is silly. They lands not at excat same time, giving bubles and tackle a change, and the darwin law is mutiplied by 700% since people are people
Also the dude iskboxing 20 mining accounts wasnt going to use those too activly use those to make eve a more exciting place, rather then his own gain.
How that affects plex ,we ll see once it balances out. I am proud to ccp make again a choice out of principle rather then money. Blink, and the null sec changes, and this one show a new decade where ccp is in control of their destiny and game
One proud csm member!
The change have not been implemeted yet, so wrong saying its cheating. lol. Also every single charater is ''one player'' and brodcasting same over all accounts while mining seem non benifictial in my eyes. but using isb boxer to have Nice screen setup while mining, well.. i see that one. |

viverxia
Serenity Prime The Volition Cult
3
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:54:01 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:RoAnnon wrote:Mr Omniblivion wrote:This is ironic but the logical change next to be made is to nerf afk cloaking. Sure, that's logical, since an AFK cloaked pilot has absolutely no way to interact with the game at all... perfect sense there...  CCP is directly nerfing the force projection that one player can have affect on others in Eve. What do you think afk cloaking is? 
Their time shall come.. and then the tears will flow |

Grim Starwind
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:54:34 -
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Holy crap, how some people can't understand this and yet still manage to play EVE is amazing.
If you use a program to somehow input the same action in to more than one account at the exact same time, you are being illegal. It is not allowed.
If you have a keyboard macro that inputs F1-F5 one after the other to activate say a bunch of hardness. That is okay.
Pretty basic poop here. I dunno if it's more to counter isboxer bombers or more than likely farmers mining using 10 accounts all at once. Which you can still do but with more effort. |

Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
933
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:54:54 -
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Toria Nynys wrote:With everyone screaming about unsubbing as a result of that I just have to pipe up with:
+4 accounts re-subbed while my ISK lasts and 1 with $. After thinking about it longer this is a fantastic and long overdue policy change.
Hell I'm debating on making a 3rd account now.
What CCP lost is 100 people who used ingame plex to destroy ccp's bandwidth (CCP never saw a dime). Maybe I'm wrong and the guy who had 80 accounts actually paid $1,200 per month to keep them all running. I doubt it.
Bravo CCP. Bravo.
Yaay!!!!
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Gommel Nox
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:55:09 -
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Aerious wrote:Goon tears are the best tears!
Aren't they just? However, there was a matter that I wanted to put to the developers, however I cannot be bothered to read through all thirtysomething pages of this thread to see if you've already addressed it. The matter is this: for the past 11 years I have been a quadriplegic, completely lacking the ability to move my hands above the wrist, including my fingers. I've always said to people in and out of the disabled community that even online is a fantastic game to play if you have limited mobility. The user interface, coupled with its reliance on the mouse as an input, can make it a fantastic game to play, depending on what adaptive equipment and software you may have.
In my own personal case, I have to use voice recognition in order to type. For that I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking, and it's worked fine. However, my lack of mobility has at times translated to **** poor planning, especially in the PVP arena. To address this, I've used custom macros within Dragon NaturallySpeaking, as well as the software say2play, which translates certain voiceCommands into keystrokes. Certain actions like deploying/retrieving drones, Firing on a target that's locked, or even stopping my ship. According to the OP, Software like this is banworthy. So I would like to know, ones and for all, what CCP's position is on adaptive hardware and software for disabled people like myself. |

Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
187
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:55:21 -
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JIeoH Mocc wrote:Zishy Linaris wrote:goodbye ccp. 12 accounts unsubbed as of now. i feel bullshitted for my time i invested but **** happens I've a feeling that, by this rate - this thread is going to account for more unsubbed characters than there were ever subbed. (Obligatory your stuff, can i haz remark)
Is anyone keeping count? :-)
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