PI will scale accordingly, I have little doubt of that. It's the cost of anything PI related scaling as well that I'm not looking forward too. But eh, if this is the course it goes, so be it.

The impending wave of inflation doesn't sound particularly great to me. Maybe I'm missing something. That and the fact that smaller groups are going to have more issues getting POCO's up and keeping them defended.

It's not inflation, it's price increases. There's quite a difference, there.

in-+fla-+tion [in-fley-shuhn] noun
1. Economics . a persistent, substantial rise in the general level of prices related to an increase in the volume of money and resulting in the loss of value of currency ( opposed to deflation).

Derp. No, it's not inflation. It's price increases. Hey are you American by any chance?

Of course, the Goonies are failing to realize that this increase in PI prices will result in smaller corps finding their cost of maintaining their pos in high sec, low, whatever too expensive should the PI prices "adjust" accordingly.

Taking away people's ability to play how they want is bad for Eve.

[quote=Ingvar Angst]If you find the PI-sourced fuels on the market to be too expensive, then a few of your corp-members should setup a few PI harvest planets. It's not hard and they'll still give you 1-2M ISK of P1 product per day per planet. So if you have 7-10 PI harvest planets (in low/null), you've just paid for that single large POS tower's fuel bill. If that amount of effort isn't worth it to you, then you'll have to pay the market price for the fuel.

[quote=Ingvar
So, so bad at economics. What do you think happens to airfare prices in the real world when the price of crude oil goes up over a sustained period of time? Nothing, and planes all just stop flying? No: the cost is passed on to the consumer. Producers reliant on POS can also increase their sales price and continue making profits -- and they will.

Nothing is being taken away from people. The economic value of a certain activity is being increased. In time, markets will adjust.

Right. And if you mine the ore yourself, the ship is free.

Would you say that these increasing costs are due to a surfeit of currency in the economy (per the inflation definition you just pasted) or would you say it's more related to the increases in the cost procuring those materials?


You didn't even read the definition you pasted, did you?

I can just picture your fat, sweaty fingers gleefully hitting the keys to copy and paste that definition. In my imagination, a single trickle of sweat washes over your eyes right as you copied that text, preventing you from noticing that inflation is not, in fact, what you think it is. Nice masterstroke, pal ^____^

But i will love to read the stories of fights that will be had for POCOs, rising PI collectives and the crumbling of those.
The sandbox is changing, it was all the time and it wont stop, you adapt or you die. If this change is too much for your PI actions you just didnt try hard enough.

Was going to keep Eve subbed while I played another mmo, but with the changes to PI, I won't be.

Thanks CCP for making this decision easier and saving me $45 a month.

I just took my tower down, and my subs run for another 20 days then I'm done.

Exorbitant customs duties are one of the many mechanics released with this expansion that is designed to get people to move into nullsec, something which I will not do.

Bye everyone!

Confirming it was a bad idea and you screwed up.

What he says ^^^

By turning up the tax to 17% you have killed PI for weeks or worse. People need the time to setup their own POCO's. I can read all the wiki's you post, but that doesn't change the chaos you guys created for PI.

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An aside: I have not yet found two systems neighboring each other where you can get everything you need to fuel a POS.

So the new ones(at 10%) compared to the old, its really:
P0: 500%*old
P1: 6579%*old
P2: 10000%*old
P3: 1167%*old
P4: 270%*old

[Would you say that billions of ISK sitting in people's bank accounts doing nothing is part of the economy?

Yeah, and at one point the consumer stops flying. It's called "demand destruction".

[quote=Ptraci][quote=pmchem]

Absolutely, people are definitely going to stop flying T2 and supercapital ships just because they cost 17% more.

So, so bad at economics. What do you think happens to airfare prices in the real world when the price of crude oil goes up over a sustained period of time? Nothing, and planes all just stop flying? No: the cost is passed on to the consumer. Producers reliant on POS can also increase their sales price and continue making profits -- and they will.

Nothing is being taken away from people. The economic value of a certain activity is being increased. In time, markets will adjust.

POS fuel costs already yo-yo up and down +/- 20% over the course of a year. Some months, isotopes cost 300-400 ISK, then they cost 500-600 ISK. Some months it costs you 350M ISK to fuel that large tower, other months you pay closer to 450M ISK. So you either learn to live with that uncertainty, or build up a strategic stockpile of the fuel-components when prices are low and live off of them when prices are high. And you always include those variable costs in your profit/loss calculations and make sure that your margins can survive a 20% spike in fuel cost.

If you find the PI-sourced fuels on the market to be too expensive, then a few of your corp-members should setup a few PI harvest planets. It's not hard and they'll still give you 1-2M ISK of P1 product per day per planet. So if you have 7-10 PI harvest planets (in low/null), you've just paid for that single large POS tower's fuel bill. If that amount of effort isn't worth it to you, then you'll have to pay the market price for the fuel.