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Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:51:00 - [571] Just to be sure everyone is clear... We use spies. We read your forums. We listen to your TS. We feed you false intel. We have no qualms about it whatsoever. We've never made the way we fight a war when we really get into it any secret and we're not looking to win a popularity contest. If you stop and think about it though, everything we do to you you could prevent if you learnt the lessons and that primarily is why we will never feel bad about it, at the end of the day it's your problem and not ours. Eve Blacklight Style
SkaffenAmtiskaw Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:54:00 - [572] Originally by: Lootcatcher Whats next DDOS attack on a TS server to gain the upper hand? Attacks on servers and gaining access through having a character in a corp and asking for it are very different things. I accept that hostile entities have access to our TS and forums thorugh having spies. I applaud them for managing to gain such access (though if I find them I'll nuke their access ASAP of course), it's not like we don't return the favour though. Any BoB member found to have arranged a DDoS on a TS server or forum (or used a keylogger, or exploited a service vulnerability) will lose the right to use the bob TS and forums. I also suspect they'll lose their place in BoB. ______ 'A lot of the people in m0o were ok, a lot of them were exploiters, greiferes etc.' - Wrangler on m0o corp.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:54:00 - [573] it is amazing how 1 completely uninvolved person, neither bob nor Ascn stirrs a legal and moral debate about "spies" in eve. A topic which was covered already 100 times. As far as the rest goes, Bob wont lose your "respect" because lets be honest here you didnt have any when u started following them around trolling each and every thread they make (made) tho it doesnt concern you or your part of the universe. Any major entity in this game i will call out on throwing a fit about spies and backhanded deals simply because its part of the game. Everyone has a forum or ts spy. So anyone but the least involved empire agentrunner can claim any moral highground. Ascn itself has on more then 1 location used spies to their advantage or how else do you think Cyvok usually gets the infos leading to his paranoid alliancemails and blogposts announcing the next invasion or the next attack ? Espionage is part of the game, it was even praised on the first advertisements of eve-online. Dont forget half of the intel is either paranoia or from disgrunted/ displeased (real) alliancem8s so if Ascn cant keep their lines closed maybe its a symptom of internal struggle or some factions trying to make their own money/deal on it ? Its no secret that certain corps within Ascn didnt pull their weight yet and the lone npcer who just tries to freeload some hot factionloot will more then once do everything possible to keep his faction fitted Caldari navy raven and the hunting grounds paying for it. Afterall thats how Ascn was born while kicking the rest of Xetic out of 0.0 and signing a deal with the enemy cyvok himself summoned upon Xetic. Do you really think certain elements in Xetic didnt hand out info to .5. to buy future miningrights or "space"`? Speak about doublemorals when it comes to ethics.
Ty'derian ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:00:00 - [574] Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Edited by: oDDiTy V2 on 08/10/2006 16:16:21 Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: Nira Li What's even sader is that ppl are ordering ppl to log out of a game to save them self and then come on the forum and cry that we don't have any moral.. Also ASCN are so sore losers they are acusing us of exploiters. Sad indeed. Get a clue. Noone ordered people to log off. We stayed logged off becasue of your shady log in/off tactics and your ability to control a gate even when outnumbered and outpositioned after a node crash. Bob uses TS spies to record our in game convos and to get our tactics. Whats really sad here is the great BoB utilizing LAME tactics... Well done BoB BoB do not use login/logoff tactics. It is strictly forbidden to do so. If you honestly believe that we do, then you're either delusional, or being spoonfed lies from someone. It's simply not true. than your members break realy often your own policys
Abriana Overlord Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:02:00 - [575] Edited by: Abriana Overlord on 08/10/2006 17:02:46 Originally by: Dekiri Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: Dekiri ... You know what, visit your own lawyer and present him the case. I know the outcome and ive seen it before. You on the otherhand believe in all the yada yada some clueless guys with neither a lawdegree nor any knowledge of international law spout. Back on topic. Ascn seems to be on the backfoot ? Whats the new strategy now or are you just soldiering on ? You don't get it i guess. It is not about making a huge lawsuit. It is probably completly impossible to punish someone for that, because you can't proove who did it. The point is that it is violating basic human rights and it is going a step to far into peoples privacy. The point is what is right and wrong and this is definitly wrong in a real life kind of way. I don't know about you, but i had my deals with international law myself more then once business wise and i am quite well trained when it comes to business stuff and the international "rights". I am also aware that you wont be able to get someone into jail for that most likely unless he is stupid and confesses that it was him. Everybody with bit of a brain would realize that it is indeed violating the laws of pretty much all of the free countries in the world. Wether or not you can punish someone for it is irrelevant. All I can say is you guys know we had your TS details. If you remember our TS raid last night.. Y.....M....C....A...... fix your security and quit complaining
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:13:00 - [576] Originally by: Ty'derian Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Edited by: oDDiTy V2 on 08/10/2006 16:16:21 Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: Nira Li What's even sader is that ppl are ordering ppl to log out of a game to save them self and then come on the forum and cry that we don't have any moral.. Also ASCN are so sore losers they are acusing us of exploiters. Sad indeed. Get a clue. Noone ordered people to log off. We stayed logged off becasue of your shady log in/off tactics and your ability to control a gate even when outnumbered and outpositioned after a node crash. Bob uses TS spies to record our in game convos and to get our tactics. Whats really sad here is the great BoB utilizing LAME tactics... Well done BoB BoB do not use login/logoff tactics. It is strictly forbidden to do so. If you honestly believe that we do, then you're either delusional, or being spoonfed lies from someone. It's simply not true. than your members break realy often your own policys What ever... At least our FC's don't order us to log out to save us. You Will Cry My Name

Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:43:00 - [577] Thread given one serious cleaning. Please stay on-topic/constructive and avoid trolling/flaming from here-on in. Discussion of or posting links to an alleged TeamSpeak recording are not welcome here. Failure to adhere to the forum rules could result in a forum warning or ban. You have been warned. \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|

Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:55:00 - [578] Welcome back, my precious. This thread has everything, I might print it off and frame it (the uncensored version anyway).
liquidism Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:12:00 - [579] hobbits got pwned.. again n1 bob
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:33:00 - [580] and if only they would leave there pos now we could have a blast. WTT. a few bs for a FC ill give to ascn snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty

Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:36:00 - [581] Originally by: Nez Perces ...just had another peak at the BoB kb.. and omg... 88 - 3 for sunday's BS score that brings the total for the weekend to ~ 211 - 16 ... Whatever you're strategy is, its not working.. I can't comment on their overall strategy, but it would appear that their Battleships are scouted for by General Custer.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:38:00 - [582] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Blacklight I'm having an incredible sense of deja vu reading this thread, kinda reminds me of the last time we got serious about taking someones toys away. You never did respond to my reasoned reply to your one-liner about me 'stepping away from the keyboard'. Can you actually engage in reasoned debate or are you capable of little more than low-end flaming? Just out of politeness I'll reply. Yes I can engage in reasoned debate but I do sometimes enjoy a little low end flaming, it adds a bit of sunshine to my day. However, I have zero interest in getting into any such debate with you in this or any other thread about BoB's strategy, campaigns, tactics, choice of underwear or anything else for that matter. As to why I make that previous statement to put it quite frankly it's none of your business and your views are of no interest or consequence. Enjoy hanging out in all the BoB threads and espouse your views as much as you like but you and I will not be debating anything. Eve Blacklight Style
BoinKlasik Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:04:00 - [583] Originally by: Serathu Thread given one serious cleaning. Please stay on-topic/constructive and avoid trolling/flaming from here-on in. Discussion of or posting links to an alleged TeamSpeak recording are not welcome here. Failure to adhere to the forum rules could result in a forum warning or ban. You have been warned. I dont know if this counts as discussing moderation, but jesus, this thing lost like 3 pages didnt it? it was on 18 afaik O.o doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Karunel Nuevos Horizontes O X I D E	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:30:00 - [584] Originally by: Shrike Latest news from the TPAR front; ASCN gathers up 65 bships in TCAG, sets them up 500km off the TPAR gate, sets all supports on the TPAR gate in jump range. BoB suicides a Interdictor onto the 65 BS sitting 500 km away, and jumps in the fleet of 35 bships onto the ASCN fleet. The support is now stuck at the TPAR gate, the BS are now stuck 500km from the TPAR gate, unable to warp apart for a few of them. Our fleet slaughters the support, and warps up to the Bships who are still stuck in the dictor bubble, rougly 15 of them die. ASCN pulls out whatever they have left. BoB regroups on the TPAR gate, as the ASCN inside TPAR have arrived at sniping range to TCAG gate in sniping range. The ASCN fleet in TCAG warps in on us, in jumprange.... BoB and ASCN both jumps into TPAR, traffic controls galore when roughly 200 ships try and jump at the same time. A fight starts up on both sides of the gates, lasts for about 5 minutes, then the node dies. BoB lost 1 interdictor, and 1 interceptor. Jesus Christ ASCN you've got 5000 guys, some of them ARE pvp'ers, you must have some DECENT leaders who have a clue. Honestly reading about the war makes one wonder if ASCN pilots click on join gang then go afk or something.
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:10:00 - [585] Paging through BoBs killboard I'm surprised to see the vast majority of ASCN's ships are sporting t1 guns. When BoB dies the killmails inevitably show the ship was sporting t2 guns. Have ASCN not considered you may be vastly more effective if you threw some t2 guns on there? (you arent ALL incapable of using em) You get an extra 28% dmg and you can compete at long range which I believe your opponents favour. Sure losses may cost more when they happen but just perhaps you would incur less losses if you went for effective setups. Meh, just my thoughts.
Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:25:00 - [586] Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 09/10/2006 00:36:21 FLAMES FLAMES FLAMES. there is no such things as propaganda in eve, its just different degrees of flames. at the end is the Killboard that tells the truth, knowing that bob posts all kills regardless. the war atm looks like this, oh and iam not counting cruisers and frigs. Sunday 08 October 2006 [90 battleships destroyed] [3 battleships lost] Saturday 07 October 2006 [47 battleships destroyed] [12 battleships lost] Friday 06 October 2006 [76 battleships destroyed] [1 battleship lost] Thursday 05 October 2006 [28 battleships destroyed] [2 battleships lost] Wednesday 04 October 2006 [23 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost] Now ascn keep flaming, but FFS do something on the battlefield. first of all. Secure your TS, as far as i know most of my friends in ascn are leaving due to lack of comms security, 90% of the guys in your servers are unregistered. if i was you i would stop posting on forums all together, you jsut look stupid to me and others, than wounder why 90% of eve hates you. edit: ----------- Originally by: Pestillence Paging through BoBs killboard I'm surprised to see the vast majority of ASCN's ships are sporting t1 guns. When BoB dies the killmails inevitably show the ship was sporting t2 guns. Have ASCN not considered you may be vastly more effective if you threw some t2 guns on there? (you arent ALL incapable of using em) You get an extra 28% dmg and you can compete at long range which I believe your opponents favour. Sure losses may cost more when they happen but just perhaps you would incur less losses if you went for effective setups. Meh, just my thoughts. they proud them selfs on using only t1, sound more like greed to me, the richest alliance in eve uses t1 guns. oh and Quote: Proconsul Para > 2006.10.08 23:08:38 Notify Raven belonging to xjudgedreadx self-destructs. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Brother Bender Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:36:00 - [587] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Sunday 08 October 2006 [90 battleships destroyed] [3 battleships lost] Saturday 07 October 2006 [47 battleships destroyed] [12 battleships lost] Friday 06 October 2006 [76 battleships destroyed] [1 battleship lost] Thursday 05 October 2006 [28 battleships destroyed] [2 battleships lost] Wednesday 04 October 2006 [23 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost] Add 3 carriers to that count and countless fighters [approximately the cost of 1 BC each]
Sprak Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:38:00 - [588] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Sunday 08 October 2006 [90 battleships destroyed] [3 battleships lost] Saturday 07 October 2006 [47 battleships destroyed] [12 battleships lost] Friday 06 October 2006 [76 battleships destroyed] [1 battleship lost] Thursday 05 October 2006 [28 battleships destroyed] [2 battleships lost] Wednesday 04 October 2006 [23 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost] Add 3 carriers to that count and countless fighters [approximately the cost of 1 BC each]
Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:38:00 - [589] Originally by: Brother Bender Originally by: Roxanna Kell Sunday 08 October 2006 [90 battleships destroyed] [3 battleships lost] Saturday 07 October 2006 [47 battleships destroyed] [12 battleships lost] Friday 06 October 2006 [76 battleships destroyed] [1 battleship lost] Thursday 05 October 2006 [28 battleships destroyed] [2 battleships lost] Wednesday 04 October 2006 [23 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost] Add 3 carriers to that count and countless fighters [approximately the cost of 1 BC each] it will be nice if bob can get their killboard upgraded. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:39:00 - [590] Originally by: Roxanna Kell .. stats.. I'm probably gonna get flamed to hell and back for what I'm about to say next... but... What is happening to ASCN on the battlefield should be a warning to all... Carebearing your way into 0.0 is not a viable proposition in the long run. Sooner or later you are gonna have to fight. What a slaughter ...

Jack Malus Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:47:00 - [591] Originally by: Shrike Latest news from the TPAR front; ASCN gathers up 65 bships in TCAG, sets them up 500km off the TPAR gate, sets all supports on the TPAR gate in jump range. BoB suicides a Interdictor onto the 65 BS sitting 500 km away, and jumps in the fleet of 35 bships onto the ASCN fleet. The support is now stuck at the TPAR gate, the BS are now stuck 500km from the TPAR gate, unable to warp apart for a few of them. Our fleet slaughters the support, and warps up to the Bships who are still stuck in the dictor bubble, rougly 15 of them die. ASCN pulls out whatever they have left. BoB regroups on the TPAR gate, as the ASCN inside TPAR have arrived at sniping range to TCAG gate in sniping range. The ASCN fleet in TCAG warps in on us, in jumprange.... BoB and ASCN both jumps into TPAR, traffic controls galore when roughly 200 ships try and jump at the same time. A fight starts up on both sides of the gates, lasts for about 5 minutes, then the node dies. BoB lost 1 interdictor, and 1 interceptor. So 35 BoB ships suceeded in jumping into 65 ASCN ships? I guess I don't understand. Shouldn't BoB have been slaughtered with these odds? Were they not able to return fire?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:48:00 - [592] To ASCN's credit, they haven't ran home despite the setbacks. I know some of them have no experience fighting on the offensive. That being said, BoB is a well oiled machine thx to the tune up with outbreak/celest awhile back. We got soft fighting goon and assorted riff raff.
Nyk0n Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.10.09 01:28:00 - [593] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/10/2006 10:09:22 Quote: Easy kills?? Seems you are getting exactly what you normally look for as well;) Took ASCN long enough to smell the coffee, but bless you, that coffee smells good. Hello Nykon. We are getting pvp against an alliance who isn't afraid to use Capital ships and who actually fight us. Not someone who hides or tries to bore us out (pa, fa, goons etc). We got a taste of this against CODA for a weekend, now we are getting it 23/7. It's all we ever want and I'm seeing people log onto BoB who haven't been seen in a long time. dbp Cant belive im actully gonna say it but, fair play to you DB. Secound post in this thread that has actully made me feel a TINY (n belive its tiny) bit of respect for you. Sometimes the truth hurts.......... Dosnt stop it being true
Prodigy Z ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.09 02:18:00 - [594] Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Ty'derian Originally by: oDDiTy V2 Edited by: oDDiTy V2 on 08/10/2006 16:16:21 Originally by: VonKaplanek III Originally by: Nira Li What's even sader is that ppl are ordering ppl to log out of a game to save them self and then come on the forum and cry that we don't have any moral.. Also ASCN are so sore losers they are acusing us of exploiters. Sad indeed. Get a clue. Noone ordered people to log off. We stayed logged off becasue of your shady log in/off tactics and your ability to control a gate even when outnumbered and outpositioned after a node crash. Bob uses TS spies to record our in game convos and to get our tactics. Whats really sad here is the great BoB utilizing LAME tactics... Well done BoB BoB do not use login/logoff tactics. It is strictly forbidden to do so. If you honestly believe that we do, then you're either delusional, or being spoonfed lies from someone. It's simply not true. than your members break realy often your own policys What ever... At least our FC's don't order us to log out to save us. On many ocassions BOB have gone to esoteria only to find resistance and then have the enite gang log off. Maybe you do not do this but don't think that all BOB are to proud to do it.
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 02:52:00 - [595] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Saturday 07 October 2006 [47 battleships destroyed] [12 battleships lost] Just to clarify, we sacrificed 11bs to get two carriers just after dt that day. ACSN fleet command has been trying to spin this .... invasion... if you wish to call it that, in a positive light, and while I understand why, it seems a futile attempt. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Mr Abbadon Caldari Svea Rike	Posted - 2006.10.09 03:09:00 - [596] omg the BOB threads. Band of Babies are at it again smacking the forums with alot of dirty diapers. well ppl. what can we do about these band of crying babies? heres some tips: A crying baby gets to everyone. Whether your baby is crying because they are hungry, sad, lonely or have colic, you're probably looking for a way to minimize they time they spend crying and screaming. Here are some tried and true techniques to help reduce the amount of time your newborn baby spends crying. 1: Clings are great ways to carry a baby. Many infants are calmed by the soothing presence of mom, dad or another care provider. These types of carriers are good alternatives to plastic baby carriers. 2: Dr. William Sears literally wrote the book on calming fussy babies. Whether it's physical discomfort, colic, over stimulation or whatever reason your little one is crying, this book can help. 3: Perhaps it's gas? We've all heard that, but occasionally it's true! Mylicon is an over the counter medication for infants and newborns to help relieve tummy troubles of the rumbling nature. 4: White noise or other soothing music can be helpful. Something as simple as a running vacuum or rumbling dryer are enough for some babies. Try putting your baby in a sling and vacuuming the house, or play a CD of lulling music or even pure white noise... 5: or the lack of breast ta ta ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Minmatar ships: Varied piles of scrap metal welded together by random lightning strikes..
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 03:24:00 - [597] Originally by: Mr Abbadon omg the BOB threads. Band of Babies are at it again smacking the forums with alot of dirty diapers. well ppl. what can we do about these band of crying babies? heres some tips: A crying baby gets to everyone. Whether your baby is crying because they are hungry, sad, lonely or have colic, you're probably looking for a way to minimize they time they spend crying and screaming. Here are some tried and true techniques to help reduce the amount of time your newborn baby spends crying. 1: Clings are great ways to carry a baby. Many infants are calmed by the soothing presence of mom, dad or another care provider. These types of carriers are good alternatives to plastic baby carriers. 2: Dr. William Sears literally wrote the book on calming fussy babies. Whether it's physical discomfort, colic, over stimulation or whatever reason your little one is crying, this book can help. 3: Perhaps it's gas? We've all heard that, but occasionally it's true! Mylicon is an over the counter medication for infants and newborns to help relieve tummy troubles of the rumbling nature. 4: White noise or other soothing music can be helpful. Something as simple as a running vacuum or rumbling dryer are enough for some babies. Try putting your baby in a sling and vacuuming the house, or play a CD of lulling music or even pure white noise... 5: or the lack of breast ta ta I dont see how this affects, or is even applicable to this situation. Thanks for your input though, I'll file it under child care for future use. WELCOME BACK MGRL!
McMike Hegemonic Core	Posted - 2006.10.09 03:46:00 - [598] Quote: Sunday 08 October 2006 [90 battleships destroyed] [3 battleships lost] Saturday 07 October 2006 [47 battleships destroyed] [12 battleships lost] Friday 06 October 2006 [76 battleships destroyed] [1 battleship lost] Thursday 05 October 2006 [28 battleships destroyed] [2 battleships lost] Wednesday 04 October 2006 [23 battleships destroyed] [4 battleships lost] While BOB trying to claim honesty in all of this, they do not post all their killmails. 22 BS according to BOB above, yet the ASCN killboard have collected 64 BS killmails purely from BOB corps. Either ASCN is making up 3 fake bs mails per real kills, or the BOB propaganda machine is in full swing. I also see four to one kills on HAC in ASCN favour. The mails are right there, check for yourself. I suggest you get your members posting.
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 03:48:00 - [599] Quote: I also see four to one kills on HAC in ASCN favour. Not this old gem again.
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 03:50:00 - [600] Originally by: Astasia Orian Quote: I also see four to one kills on HAC in ASCN favour. Not this old gem again. rofl, here we go again.... btw, even if ASCN have 64 BS kills, its still 264 to 64 in BoB favor.



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