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Millis Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 14:31:00 - [241] Ok this is just ridiculous. Please just realize the facts that are very embarrasing for one of the parts - ASCN. Just look at this: Friday killratio: 75-0 Saturday before noon: 2 Carrier losses plus bs kills and having a few of our bs killed in order to take down their carriers and some of their bs. All of the above were ASCN losses. Just look at the numbers! PLUS we are right now taking down all their so called "Pos installations" and guess what? We are ready soon. This must be one of the greatest failures and failing attempts of engaging in eve history. Now tell me, who¦s da man and who is really fooling who? If I hear anything more stupid after you¦ve looked over these facts, then you should feel very ignorant and denial.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 14:52:00 - [242] The assumptions about our industrial power have us laughing our socks off, it's most amusing. Anyway, I'm having a lot of fun in TPAR and am very happy indeed that ASCN decided to have a go and be proactive. I wanted a war, where we fight it is currently of no concern to me. At least they have had the balls, manpower and hardware to at least try what no-one else has done in the last year to eighteen months despite us practically begging the rest of you spineless no mark BoB haters. Good for ASCN. Eve Blacklight Style
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.07 14:57:00 - [243] LTS: Fleet Commanders FREEE is Recruiting
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:26:00 - [244] What BL said . "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Elendar Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:33:00 - [245] Originally by: Millis Edited by: Millis on 07/10/2006 14:44:45 Ok this is just ridiculous. Please just realize the facts that are very embarrasing for one of the parts - ASCN. Just look at this: Friday killratio: 75-0 (forgot to add that this is only for the battleships ratio!, Imagine how many of their smaller ships that blew.) Saturday before noon: 2 Carrier losses plus bs kills and having a few of our bs killed in order to take down their carriers and some of their bs. All of the above were ASCN losses. Just look at the numbers! PLUS we are right now taking down all their so called "Pos installations" and guess what? We are ready soon. This must be one of the greatest failures and failing attempts of engaging in eve history. Now tell me, who¦s da man and who is really fooling who? If I hear anything more stupid after you¦ve looked over these facts, then you should feel very ignorant and denial. They may be failing, but they're failing in your space not theirs Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Xirt must be one of the GREAT leaders in eve to keep you guys shooting shuttles in hophib
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:37:00 - [246] Originally by: Blacklight The assumptions about our industrial power have us laughing our socks off, it's most amusing. Anyway, I'm having a lot of fun in TPAR and am very happy indeed that ASCN decided to have a go and be proactive. I wanted a war, where we fight it is currently of no concern to me. At least they have had the balls, manpower and hardware to at least try what no-one else has done in the last year to eighteen months despite us practically begging the rest of you spineless no mark BoB haters. Good for ASCN. Blacklight ftw. Nice post, but it lacks tinfoilbait King Tinfoil Hatter

Karass Sayfo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:45:00 - [247] Thread cleaned up of obvious flames and trolling. Please keep the discussion in a civil and on-topic manner. Blatantly off-topic posts are liable to be removed without warning. If you see a flame, please email [email protected] instead of replying with a flame of your own. If you have any questions, please contact us with said email address. _______ forum rules \| [email protected]

Millis Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:47:00 - [248] Originally by: Elendar Originally by: Millis Edited by: Millis on 07/10/2006 14:44:45 Ok this is just ridiculous. Please just realize the facts that are very embarrasing for one of the parts - ASCN. Just look at this: Friday killratio: 75-0 (forgot to add that this is only for the battleships ratio!, Imagine how many of their smaller ships that blew.) Saturday before noon: 2 Carrier losses plus bs kills and having a few of our bs killed in order to take down their carriers and some of their bs. All of the above were ASCN losses. Just look at the numbers! PLUS we are right now taking down all their so called "Pos installations" and guess what? We are ready soon. This must be one of the greatest failures and failing attempts of engaging in eve history. Now tell me, who¦s da man and who is really fooling who? If I hear anything more stupid after you¦ve looked over these facts, then you should feel very ignorant and denial. They may be failing, but they're failing in your space not theirs Wrong. They are failing in their own space as well. Since it¦s against forum rules, I¦m not allowed to give all statistics in here but you for sure would understand if you did actually know anything about them before posting. But just so you will feel better, you can check our bbq in "their" space before this TPAR bbq. You see, they have problems defending their space thus putting out pos¦s in our space and also sacrifice ship losses there so we won¦t bbq them in their space and their "valuables" again. Therefore losing ships in our space is also a loss for them in their space because they obviously got problems defending it.
Skrypt Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.07 15:55:00 - [249] Originally by: John McCreedy 11.00 Eve Standard Time: TPAR (Period Basis) Seige day 2: 2 BoB towers down. All ASCN towers refreshed, refueld and out of Reinforced. Wow. Thanks for your simplicity despite the epic nature of your accomplishment. It brought me up to date on the issues in 2 seconds despite the 20 minutes I spent sifting through BoB-garbage. You would think it was goonswarm who had won something. Congrats to BoB for having an incredibly lengthy conversation with themselves about their win. ___________
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:07:00 - [250] Originally by: Skrypt Congrats to BoB for having an incredibly lengthy conversation with themselves about their win. Yes, it's been great. And I think we agree that we rock. While ASCN are slowly coming to terms with just how good their alliance really is. ~Dobbs. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-

KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:18:00 - [251] Originally by: Skrypt Originally by: John McCreedy 11.00 Eve Standard Time: TPAR (Period Basis) Seige day 2: 2 BoB towers down. All ASCN towers refreshed, refueld and out of Reinforced. Wow. Thanks for your simplicity despite the epic nature of your accomplishment. It brought me up to date on the issues in 2 seconds despite the 20 minutes I spent sifting through BoB-garbage. You would think it was goonswarm who had won something. Congrats to BoB for having an incredibly lengthy conversation with themselves about their win. Here's the only thing Dude, It's a blatent Lie. All but one of their towers are either in reinforced or offline, they managed to kill 2 SMALL POS's, at the cost of 2 Carriers. John McCreedy is and always has been a 2-faced Liar. You would do well not to listen to anything he ever says. BoB may be mouthy on the forums, but at least we tell the truth. -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:24:00 - [252] A bold move by ASCN, which probably noone in the EvE universe expected. We in BoB can only applaud such a move by ASCN as they have been the first to take the fight to our space while it wasn't completely riskfree. In over a year only one alliance has done that to us. What does that say about the rest of the universe? You are all cowards who are too afraid to lose a ship. G, VC, SA, FA, IRON, D2, RAZOR and countless of other alliances have never dared what ASCN are doing now. Wether you succeed or fail ASCN, you definetly deserve some respect for this. This is going to be a long war and both alliances will suffer from it, we're prepared to take losses and to follow this through till the bitter end and I can only hope ASCN will do the same. With regards to those hyenas trying to take advantage of the current situation, please get on with your useless lives in this universe. If your only valuable option to achieve something in EvE is to do it when BoB isn't around then you're nothing but pathetic. Now enough babbling, jump that fleet into TPAR and let's get this show on the road! ------------------ WOTANKN > WOTAN-KN + BIZARRE= SIR MOLLE
csebal Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:30:00 - [253] Originally by: Robert Dobbs Originally by: Skrypt Congrats to BoB for having an incredibly lengthy conversation with themselves about their win. Yes, it's been great. And I think we agree that we rock. While ASCN are slowly coming to terms with just how good their alliance really is. ~Dobbs. As i'm not playin EVE actively, im livin merely on the news of it. It would be nice to hear some ASCN 'opinions' as well. Why? Because ego, pride and self-confidence are OK, but a few bits of objective news would be appreciated (by me at least). Other than the: "we rock, NO WE ROCK" kind of bull** going on. I'm truly curious what the outcome of this conflict will be, as from what i know ASCN is the most solid, most united, and maybe even the biggest alliance BOB had a fight with until now. It is my chance to test my theory on the truth behind BOB's success. So keep on fighting people, and provide us with USEFUL and OBJECTIVE information on whats going on. For those talking about the numbers, remember the old saying: 'You may have won the battle, but the war is far from being over'. It's always nice to have a kill ratio of 75:0, its a victory for sure, but at the end of the war, it will merely be a sidenote in the books of history. In a book written by the victorious, not necessarily the one with the most kills. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of anyone else besides me. No matter what YOU believe. Rest.In.Peace HUN**
Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:34:00 - [254] I still wish ASCN best of luck in their endevors against Band of Bullies.
kahle Paralex Research	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:34:00 - [255] Originally by: KSUDruid Originally by: Skrypt Originally by: John McCreedy 11.00 Eve Standard Time: TPAR (Period Basis) Seige day 2: 2 BoB towers down. All ASCN towers refreshed, refueld and out of Reinforced. Wow. Thanks for your simplicity despite the epic nature of your accomplishment. It brought me up to date on the issues in 2 seconds despite the 20 minutes I spent sifting through BoB-garbage. You would think it was goonswarm who had won something. Congrats to BoB for having an incredibly lengthy conversation with themselves about their win. Here's the only thing Dude, It's a blatent Lie. All but one of their towers are either in reinforced or offline, they managed to kill 2 SMALL POS's, at the cost of 2 Carriers. John McCreedy is and always has been a 2-faced Liar. You would do well not to listen to anything he ever says. BoB may be mouthy on the forums, but at least we tell the truth. maybe sums it up
Tactician Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:35:00 - [256] Originally by: John McCreedy 11.00 Eve Standard Time: TPAR (Period Basis) Seige day 2: 2 BoB towers down. All ASCN towers refreshed, refueld and out of Reinforced. Blatent lies... how sad you would lower yourself to that. Cant say I'm entirely suprised though.
kahle Paralex Research	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:37:00 - [257] Originally by: Tactician Originally by: John McCreedy 11.00 Eve Standard Time: TPAR (Period Basis) Seige day 2: 2 BoB towers down. All ASCN towers refreshed, refueld and out of Reinforced. Blatent lies... how sad you would lower yourself to that. Cant say I'm entirely suprised though. maybe you are starting to believe your own propaganda?
Malvahne Amarr NED-Clan R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:44:00 - [258] Originally by: Karass Sayfo Thread cleaned up of obvious flames and trolling. Please keep the discussion in a civil and on-topic manner. Blatantly off-topic posts are liable to be removed without warning. If you see a flame, please email [email protected] instead of replying with a flame of your own. If you have any questions, please contact us with said email address. Dear mister moderator, I think its save to say that this will not be posible so you might as well lock this thread now as we know that it will happen eventualy. Just like with the 99% of the other threads posted these days.
Tactician Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:00:00 - [259] Originally by: kahle Originally by: Tactician Originally by: John McCreedy 11.00 Eve Standard Time: TPAR (Period Basis) Seige day 2: 2 BoB towers down. All ASCN towers refreshed, refueld and out of Reinforced. Blatent lies... how sad you would lower yourself to that. Cant say I'm entirely suprised though. maybe you are starting to believe your own propaganda? I am in TPAR, I can see with my own eyes, BoB have the situation completely under control. I dont see you in TPAR local however...
McMikey Minmatar Hegemonic Core	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:13:00 - [260] All this gloating about kills is rather perplexing. When I look at the ASCN killboards, I see BOB destroying less than double its losses in terms of ISK worth (9.3 bil bob to 17.8 bil ascn). This still does not tell the truth. It seems like almost all BOB BS are T2 fitted. So the 60 odd BOB BS losses are worth a lot more than say 60 typically ASCN BS losses. In addition HACs are counted as 80 million ISK on the boards, yet most are far more. 4 BOB HACs are dying for every ASCN HAC. Maybe BOB is just rich. The point being, irrespective of what BOB wants to paint as reality in this thread, the killboards show a different story. Both sides are dying in the fighting. Hegemonic Core Heavy Industry

Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:26:00 - [261] Originally by: McMikey All this gloating about kills is rather perplexing. When I look at the ASCN killboards, I see BOB destroying less than double its losses in terms of ISK worth (9.3 bil bob to 17.8 bil ascn). This still does not tell the truth. It seems like almost all BOB BS are T2 fitted. So the 60 odd BOB BS losses are worth a lot more than say 60 typically ASCN BS losses. In addition HACs are counted as 80 million ISK on the boards, yet most are far more. 4 BOB HACs are dying for every ASCN HAC. Maybe BOB is just rich. The point being, irrespective of what BOB wants to paint as reality in this thread, the killboards show a different story. Both sides are dying in the fighting. Well the problem is using ASCN loss board is like asking a girl how many guys she's slept with.. take the number times it by 3 and it will be alot more accurate :)
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:34:00 - [262] Originally by: McMikey The point being, irrespective of what BOB wants to paint as reality in this thread, the killboards show a different story. If you insist on comparing the amounts of kills and losses, use both killboards instead of just one. The ASCN killboard is most likely the best place to track our losses - and as ASCN, at least in the past, has been horribly bad in posting their losses, the best place to find them is at our killboard. On a sidenote it's just funny how people are downplaying our industrial backbone - and at the same time whining because we're flying Tech 2 ships with expensive fittings. Hehe. ------------------- -
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:39:00 - [263] BTW anychance for some solid info on the situation. EG how many moons in total.. how many pos's bob has, how many ascn has. How many in reinforced on each side. Just the facts if possible please? As for all the peeps saying bob are gonna lose etc i actually thinking bob want to lose space. They changed their standing so pretty much all the major alliances are hostile. then invaded everyone in like a rotation system to **** em all of. SO bob wants people to come stick pos's in their space. ANd i bet they are having an absolute blast playing in their home turf for a change. Either way goodluck to both sides hope you both have lots of fun, sure looks like it should be from the outside.
xlop Gallente Yes no maybe - i dont know	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:53:00 - [264] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr The argument is void anyway. It took Cyvok something like 6-8 months to train for titan if i recall a statement made. Not including all the prereq's for carrir's. Plus a similar amount of time just to build the thing. Also it was used using refining tax's because do you really think the whole alliance are going to give vast quantities of their own minerals (as apposed to a small amount im sure they give in corp events) to make more titans? Tax'd minerals were proberbly used because at the end of the day, it's still a game, and players still need to make their own way. 1-2 'maybe' and 1 at a time at that. 15-20? Not a chance. i think you under estimate them, i would guess that the big allainces that wish to hold space or take space over would invest in 10+ titans [considering some averge jo players have motherships seeing a 2000man allaince with 10titans would not suprise me] also from what i her acsn and bob have massive amounts of great t2 BPOs, they could easily fund a 20titan project by using a few months of those BPOs profits. and for training time, there are 40+mil SP players for sale every day on the fourms for isk, so the char would not be a problem i cant wait for the day we see 40dreads pop within 15sec, it will happen, just will take time [if bob did not war ASCN i would bet they would have 15+ titans within 12months] -- Imperial College London FTW --
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 18:02:00 - [265] Edited by: Louisa Torres on 07/10/2006 18:02:54 Originally by: Eleese BTW anychance for some solid info on the situation. EG how many moons in total.. how many pos's bob has, how many ascn has. How many in reinforced on each side. Just the facts if possible please? 79 total moons. ASCN can inform you of BoB pos numbers ;) (we've lost 2 smalls so far, they haven't engaged anything large but ascn lost 2 carriers in the process). 2 (large) ASCN pos are currently in reinforced. 5 (large) ASCN pos have been destroyed. 6 (large) ASCN pos remain. p.s. the rest of your post is pretty spot on ;)
Shrike Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 18:22:00 - [266] Sitrep from TPAR; 82 moons. From a total of 6 BoB POS in system, 2 small POS have been destroyed. From a total of 13 large deployed ASCN towers, 1 is online, 2 reinforced, 2 offline, the rest have been killed. Large fleets from ASCN are trying to make it into TPAR and not succeeding, the last option from ASCN has been to anchor 2 POS outside of TPAR, in TCAG, since they are unable to protect or keep the POS inside TPAR alive. Last reports from inside of ASCN include lots of CAPITALS LETTERS; Quote: 2006.10.06 19:01 THE FRONT LINE OF THIS WAR IS NOW IN PERIOD BASIS. ALL ASCN MEMBERS NEED TO GET ONLINE AND LOCK THAT SYSTEM DOWN FOR THE ENTIRE WEEKEND, LIKE WE DID WITH EC MANY MONTHS AGO. WE CANNOT LOOSE THE ADVANTAGE OF THE ATTACK ON BOB SPACE. WE HAEV DONT THIS BEFORE, WE ARE STRONG THEN WE HAVE EVER BEEN, THE GANG LAST NIGHT DID AN INCREDIABLE JOB ESTABLISHING THE NORMANDY BEACH HEAD LAST NIGHT, NOW WE NEED TO HOLD IT. IT WONT BE EASY, BUT IMAGINE THE OUTCOME OF ASCN TAKING A BOB STATION. -CYVOK- Needless to say, this intel and riling up of their members did not do its job, and we saw more similar messages, in even more cries for backup, shortly after; Quote: 2006.10.06 19:54 Greetings, ASCN is looking to hire you in our effort to bring down BoB once and for all. Both 0.0 and Empire contracts are available. Contract details would be system blockade, logistical hunting (kill BoB freighters) and general destruction of whatever moves in BoB territory. Please respond with your price quote for at least 4 weeks of carnage based attacks on BoB targets in BoB territory and when can you start. ASCN is prepared to offer bonuses in the forum of access to 0.0 space for limited highend mining and ratting pending the outcome of a sucessfully completed contract. Respectfully -CYVOK- As it stands, BoB are firmly holding and securing TPAR, and the dreads are currently on dinnerbreaks after killing POS all day.
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.10.07 18:39:00 - [267] bob's gonna choke on their own tongues one day. and I'm glad ASCN is there to help em swallow it even further and speed up the process. gl ASCN
HellsRazor Caldari FACTA NON VERBA	Posted - 2006.10.07 18:54:00 - [268] Almost makes me wanna pick a side..go..Xetic?=p... uhhh... nevermind double KO ftw
Hakera Anari Higard	Posted - 2006.10.07 18:54:00 - [269] looking at molle's information, seems the 'beachhead' is not 'open' as yet. Still as many said, kudos for seeing acsn bring it and good luck! I hope when the dust settles both sides are willing to write good accounts of the war like seleene and kiaeddz have done previously for their wars.
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.10.07 19:15:00 - [270] Originally by: Shrike Quote: 2006.10.06 19:54 Greetings, ASCN is looking to hire you in our effort to bring down BoB once and for all. Both 0.0 and Empire contracts are available. Contract details would be system blockade, logistical hunting (kill BoB freighters) and general destruction of whatever moves in BoB territory. Please respond with your price quote for at least 4 weeks of carnage based attacks on BoB targets in BoB territory and when can you start. ASCN is prepared to offer bonuses in the forum of access to 0.0 space for limited highend mining and ratting pending the outcome of a sucessfully completed contract. Respectfully -CYVOK- Interesting , who was the original letter addressed to ? Or are my eyes decieving me and it actually says there .



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