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Seline	Posted - 2004.01.23 13:22:00 - [61] The whole Minmatar culture is probably very heterogen. All we know is that they have one common rite for the acceptance of individuals into adulthood. Compare to western civilization and Christmas celebration. The origins are lost and probably go back thousands of years. The christian version started during the 5th century as a christian ritual. Look at the diversities of it now. Some people go to church. Some drink a lot of beer. Some get a gifts from a man with a white beard. Some get presents in a sock the day after. Some says gifts are blasphemic and we are _really_ just supposed to pray and be thankful since JC is born. Some eats cod and potatoes - others eat turkey or gigantic smorgasbords. Some says it is a christian festivity others say its pagan. The only commoon thing is that its celebrated around 24th-25th december each year. Minmatar culture has developed in roughly the same period of time. Every part of society is probably just as diverse as the example above. The one thing that i think unify us above else is our common enemy - The Amarr Empire. my .02 isks /Seline
Seline	Posted - 2004.01.23 13:22:00 - [62] The whole Minmatar culture is probably very heterogen. All we know is that they have one common rite for the acceptance of individuals into adulthood. Compare to western civilization and Christmas celebration. The origins are lost and probably go back thousands of years. The christian version started during the 5th century as a christian ritual. Look at the diversities of it now. Some people go to church. Some drink a lot of beer. Some get a gifts from a man with a white beard. Some get presents in a sock the day after. Some says gifts are blasphemic and we are _really_ just supposed to pray and be thankful since JC is born. Some eats cod and potatoes - others eat turkey or gigantic smorgasbords. Some says it is a christian festivity others say its pagan. The only commoon thing is that its celebrated around 24th-25th december each year. Minmatar culture has developed in roughly the same period of time. Every part of society is probably just as diverse as the example above. The one thing that i think unify us above else is our common enemy - The Amarr Empire. my .02 isks /Seline
Wren	Posted - 2004.04.20 08:39:00 - [63] Hey, I was doing some research and found lots of info on tribal weddings. As always, it said that there are so many different customs that are specific to one tribe, that it is hard to generalize anything into just a 'tribal' custom. I wish we could get CCP to give us some examples of both Sebiestor customs as well as Brutor, Thukker, and anything else that they can. It's hard to play a fundamentalist/revivalist sorta spirital shaman wannabe dude when you don't know what you are doing! --------------------------------------------------
Wren Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2004.04.20 08:39:00 - [64] Hey, I was doing some research and found lots of info on tribal weddings. As always, it said that there are so many different customs that are specific to one tribe, that it is hard to generalize anything into just a 'tribal' custom. I wish we could get CCP to give us some examples of both Sebiestor customs as well as Brutor, Thukker, and anything else that they can. It's hard to play a fundamentalist/revivalist sorta spirital shaman wannabe dude when you don't know what you are doing! ----------------------------------- Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!"
Ashka Neris	Posted - 2004.04.20 10:04:00 - [65] I am currently writing a history and background to the Raven Clan My first thesis will be on the enigmatic Neris Sisterhood we mention from time to time. I shall follow that with a history and hiearchy system shortly afterward. --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Ashka Neris Neohazard Freelance Peace keeping Agency	Posted - 2004.04.20 10:04:00 - [66] I am currently writing a history and background to the Raven Clan My first thesis will be on the enigmatic Neris Sisterhood we mention from time to time. I shall follow that with a history and hiearchy system shortly afterward. --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Wren	Posted - 2004.04.20 11:01:00 - [67] So, is there any chance that I can get like, 3-5 sebiestors players to help make a rough 'traditional' customs and a group of 4-6 brutor players do the same? I would like that the groups just add all ideas into one pot, and keep the sebiestor and the brutor pot seperate. I see the Sebiestor having similarities to the celtic and asian tribal cultures and the brutor more like the african, island, and native american customs. If that makes any sense. --------------------------------------------------
Wren Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2004.04.20 11:01:00 - [68] So, is there any chance that I can get like, 3-5 sebiestors players to help make a rough 'traditional' customs and a group of 4-6 brutor players do the same? I would like that the groups just add all ideas into one pot, and keep the sebiestor and the brutor pot seperate. I see the Sebiestor having similarities to the celtic and asian tribal cultures and the brutor more like the african, island, and native american customs. If that makes any sense. ----------------------------------- Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!"
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.04.20 11:57:00 - [69] We've base our clan on the tribal structures like those laid our in Werewolf the Apocolypse. I'd be happy to assist on this project ---------------------------------
AsheRaven Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2004.04.20 11:57:00 - [70] We've base our clan on the tribal structures like those laid our in Werewolf the Apocolypse. I'd be happy to assist on this project ---------------------------------
Kakita Jalaan	Posted - 2004.04.20 12:52:00 - [71] This thread is very interesting indeed... I hope no one would mind if the compiled background material would eventually find its way into the Eve pen & paper project I'm currently trying to get started? If you're generally interested, check my sig.
Kakita Jalaan Viriette Commerce and Holding	Posted - 2004.04.20 12:52:00 - [72] This thread is very interesting indeed... I hope no one would mind if the compiled background material would eventually find its way into the Eve pen & paper project I'm currently trying to get started? If you're generally interested, check my sig. ______________ Join the Family
Wren	Posted - 2004.04.20 13:19:00 - [73] Ashe, Interesting idea. So would you consider possibly leading the Brutor group? --------------------------------------------------
Wren Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2004.04.20 13:19:00 - [74] Ashe, Interesting idea. So would you consider possibly leading the Brutor group? ----------------------------------- Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!"
AsheRaven	Posted - 2004.04.20 13:23:00 - [75] I'd be honoured, thanyou for asking. I'll print out this thread and consider al the points raised ---------------------------------
AsheRaven Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2004.04.20 13:23:00 - [76] I'd be honoured, thanyou for asking. I'll print out this thread and consider al the points raised ---------------------------------
Ashka Neris	Posted - 2004.04.20 16:29:00 - [77] Edited by: Ashka Neris on 20/04/2004 16:31:16 Edited by: Ashka Neris on 20/04/2004 16:30:09 Ashe and I are setting up an unofficial website for a Minmtar Encyclopedea. If any one wants to help towatrds it, please do. More details when I write it up :p --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Ashka Neris Neohazard Freelance Peace keeping Agency	Posted - 2004.04.20 16:29:00 - [78] Edited by: Ashka Neris on 20/04/2004 16:31:16 Edited by: Ashka Neris on 20/04/2004 16:30:09 Ashe and I are setting up an unofficial website for a Minmtar Encyclopedea. If any one wants to help towatrds it, please do. More details when I write it up :p --------------------------- Proud to be half Brutor http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=69488&page=1R
Tsual	Posted - 2004.04.20 17:16:00 - [79] Edited by: Tsual on 20/04/2004 18:49:26 Under the category unusual Minmatar sects/cults on pator you can add the Qua'nadhar.(more or less personally main RP project) I would also like to help in the sebiestor group. But don't await to much, my main quest ist thinking and pondering about what could be introduced to the game, coded by the developpers (however most ideas I have I throw away as either someone already posted them or I don't think that can be done) -------------------------------------- Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar.
Tsual Minmatar Iikhelahii khulemah'lal	Posted - 2004.04.20 17:16:00 - [80] Edited by: Tsual on 20/04/2004 18:49:26 Under the category unusual Minmatar sects/cults on pator you can add the Qua'nadhar.(more or less personally main RP project) I would also like to help in the sebiestor group. But don't await to much, my main quest ist thinking and pondering about what could be introduced to the game, coded by the developpers (however most ideas I have I throw away as either someone already posted them or I don't think that can be done) ******************** Moral is only usefull so far as society demands it from one to accept his presence.
Zaphod Robotnik	Posted - 2004.04.20 18:20:00 - [81] Originally by: Ashka Neris Ashe and I are setting up an unofficial website for a Minmtar Encyclopedea. If any one wants to help towatrds it, please do. Might I suggest you have a word with Tih Ahh who does minmatar.net and see if you can't have your encycolpedia integrated there. It'd be something that I'd be very interested in - love anything that expands the RP and immersion in EVE. There is a similar sort of thing on amarr.net but it is a bit neglected... -- Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/http://eve.britishspacecorps
Zaphod Robotnik Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2004.04.20 18:20:00 - [82] Originally by: Ashka Neris Ashe and I are setting up an unofficial website for a Minmtar Encyclopedea. If any one wants to help towatrds it, please do. Might I suggest you have a word with Tih Ahh who does minmatar.net and see if you can't have your encycolpedia integrated there. It'd be something that I'd be very interested in - love anything that expands the RP and immersion in EVE. There is a similar sort of thing on amarr.net but it is a bit neglected... -- Zaphod "Zaprobo" Robotnik Former President, Royal Communication Department http://eve.britishspacecorps.co.uk/
Wren	Posted - 2004.04.25 05:45:00 - [83] Okay, I just requested some more books, one about body modification including tattoos, piercings and brandings, and then some books oh holistic healing and runes. Adding this with the stuff I leaned about budo and bujitsu and the small amount of reading from native american and asian customs, I am begining to get ideas and inspiration. If some of the sebiestors who are heavy into rp could contact me ingame with an eve-mail or a convo at any time could, I would like to set up some serious rap sessions and brainstorming. --------------------------------------------------
Wren Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2004.04.25 05:45:00 - [84] Okay, I just requested some more books, one about body modification including tattoos, piercings and brandings, and then some books oh holistic healing and runes. Adding this with the stuff I leaned about budo and bujitsu and the small amount of reading from native american and asian customs, I am begining to get ideas and inspiration. If some of the sebiestors who are heavy into rp could contact me ingame with an eve-mail or a convo at any time could, I would like to set up some serious rap sessions and brainstorming. ----------------------------------- Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!"
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2004.04.26 09:45:00 - [85] Edited by: Darius Shakor on 26/04/2004 09:50:22 Edited by: Darius Shakor on 26/04/2004 09:50:02 Wren, forgive me if this has been suggested before but I haven't time to read this whole thread today, though I will because it seems fairly interesting. I was watching a documentary on Hawaii tibes of old and how they would engage in show before battle to the other side to intimidate them. It was called Extreem Hawaii if you get chance to see it, and it was on the sky channel Discovery Civilisation. What struck me as particularly interesting was that they would engage in a show of ferocity to their enemy for two reasons. 1 to fire themselves up and try to intimidate the enemy so they would lose due to fear. 2, and the most interesting reason, so that they would not have to fight for a complex set of reasons. The show would do several things for the tribes. They would most often back away from combad from eachother after such a show as it was clear that both sides meant buusiness and would, even if they lost, inflict horific wounds and casualties on their enemy so that winning would not look much like it. They would also do it out of mutual respect for eachother if they had both put on a good show. This was also used as a ethod of first contact with unknown tribes too and after such a show, if satisfactory, the tribe leaders would clasp hands and touch foreheads with a scoul on their faces, but it was meant as a sign of respect to the other not to interfere with eachothers territory unless provoked. All in all rather facinating. I have long belived that such as the Brutors would have come from this kind background on earth as they settled on islands in the warmer south of matar akin to those in the south pacific areas and Hawaii. I just thought I should share that as it could be a nice part of Brutor history after the gate closed and technology regressed. edit I should also mention that such traditions are honoured on Hawaii on a regular basis on their old calender as decendants would meet eachother and perform the traditional war dances to decendants of other tribes as they do the same. Not entirely a public affair like Civil War Recreation, though local people do go and watch and maybe some tourists. But it is more of a memorial to important dates where great tribes would either declare peace or war. Given the heavy traditional ties on Matar that may still exist, I would imagine that such rituals on Matar would be honoured in memorial and people would train for years to be accepted into the recreation. ------ Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2004.04.26 09:45:00 - [86] Edited by: Darius Shakor on 26/04/2004 09:50:22 Edited by: Darius Shakor on 26/04/2004 09:50:02 Wren, forgive me if this has been suggested before but I haven't time to read this whole thread today, though I will because it seems fairly interesting. I was watching a documentary on Hawaii tibes of old and how they would engage in show before battle to the other side to intimidate them. It was called Extreem Hawaii if you get chance to see it, and it was on the sky channel Discovery Civilisation. What struck me as particularly interesting was that they would engage in a show of ferocity to their enemy for two reasons. 1 to fire themselves up and try to intimidate the enemy so they would lose due to fear. 2, and the most interesting reason, so that they would not have to fight for a complex set of reasons. The show would do several things for the tribes. They would most often back away from combad from eachother after such a show as it was clear that both sides meant buusiness and would, even if they lost, inflict horific wounds and casualties on their enemy so that winning would not look much like it. They would also do it out of mutual respect for eachother if they had both put on a good show. This was also used as a ethod of first contact with unknown tribes too and after such a show, if satisfactory, the tribe leaders would clasp hands and touch foreheads with a scoul on their faces, but it was meant as a sign of respect to the other not to interfere with eachothers territory unless provoked. All in all rather facinating. I have long belived that such as the Brutors would have come from this kind background on earth as they settled on islands in the warmer south of matar akin to those in the south pacific areas and Hawaii. I just thought I should share that as it could be a nice part of Brutor history after the gate closed and technology regressed. edit I should also mention that such traditions are honoured on Hawaii on a regular basis on their old calender as decendants would meet eachother and perform the traditional war dances to decendants of other tribes as they do the same. Not entirely a public affair like Civil War Recreation, though local people do go and watch and maybe some tourists. But it is more of a memorial to important dates where great tribes would either declare peace or war. Given the heavy traditional ties on Matar that may still exist, I would imagine that such rituals on Matar would be honoured in memorial and people would train for years to be accepted into the recreation. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Wren	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:20:00 - [87] Very interesting. --------------------------------------------------
Wren Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2004.04.26 12:20:00 - [88] Very interesting. ----------------------------------- Wren says: "Chirpy Chirp Chirp.... DAMNIT!"
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.04.26 15:21:00 - [89] You need to start reading books on Technoshamanism. Minnies aren't old-school trbialists, like 1600 Native Americans. Try to think how the various Tribal cultures would integrate high-tech into their rituals, into their religious beliefs There's proof of Minmatar using technology in their Tribalism, from the nano-ink used in the Voluval, to the War Tattoo's. Also, don't forget that the Amarr are likely not to have allowed these 'customs' to persist during the occupation. Since most (read, all) of the Minnie race has been enslaved, most of their traditions would have been lost (think of the Maya or Inca's (can't remember which one) after the conquistadores massacred them all). [Heterocephalus glaber]
Discorporation Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2004.04.26 15:21:00 - [90] You need to start reading books on Technoshamanism. Minnies aren't old-school trbialists, like 1600 Native Americans. Try to think how the various Tribal cultures would integrate high-tech into their rituals, into their religious beliefs There's proof of Minmatar using technology in their Tribalism, from the nano-ink used in the Voluval, to the War Tattoo's. Also, don't forget that the Amarr are likely not to have allowed these 'customs' to persist during the occupation. Since most (read, all) of the Minnie race has been enslaved, most of their traditions would have been lost (think of the Maya or Inca's (can't remember which one) after the conquistadores massacred them all).

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