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Wren
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Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan

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Posted - 2007.03.29 14:28:00 - [181]

Even with this religion, it isn't a straight deity worship system. Praying wouldn't help much I don't think.
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Bastion Modros
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Posted - 2007.03.29 15:32:00 - [182]

Wow! This is truly an amazing thread. Keep up the good work all!
I especially liked the elements idea, and your interpretations of the rituals/chemical use.

May the light always find you at peace.




Taurevanime
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Posted - 2007.03.29 18:37:00 - [183]

Oh not at all straight worship like going to church. There's not even special buildings of worship, areas of reverence yes. It's more that it's an explenation why things happen. Like thunder is the result of Thor smashing his hammer and stuff like that. Do only straight worship that is done would be sacrificing an animal to a certain diety before setting out on a journey on sea, lest their ship be wrecked and they all drown.
Mori Felding
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Posted - 2007.03.30 11:43:00 - [184]

Edited by: Mori Felding on 30/03/2007 11:45:47
Edited by: Mori Felding on 30/03/2007 11:45:01
Edited by: Mori Felding on 30/03/2007 11:41:46
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Wren also asked me to explain why blindness was considered a sign of wisdom by the Brutor. I'd say this would be because they don't belief a blind man is wholly blind, he is just blind to this world filled with deceptions and illusions (placed there by Loki?) and is thusly unefected by them.
He also looks in on himself and others and untaps a great wisdom as a result.


While this is an interesting idea, I think the answer might be much more down to earth. According the nordic tales, Odin the king of gods in valhalla, sacrificed one of his eyes to drink from the well of wisdom. Of course it could be interpretated onto Brutor philosophy differently, just giving some info on norse mythology that it seems based on.


Wren, I'm presently dealing with a lot of these aspects at university, so if you want to have a chat about how things as culture, history, religious experience/mysticism are seen from some scientific lines of study, just poke me ingame or send an evemail. Else I can post a longer post at a later time (presently drunk ^^)
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Wren
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:05:00 - [185]

Alas, I can never turn down an offer of in game poking.

Expect a convo/mail soon.
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Wren
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Posted - 2007.03.30 17:34:00 - [186]

How would everyone feel if I sketched up a few marks?
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Taurevanime
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Posted - 2007.03.30 23:09:00 - [187]

Go ahead with it I'd say.
Nachshon
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Posted - 2007.03.31 19:27:00 - [188]

I'd like to see that.

I also had an idea for a mark, which I wrote into a first draft story about my character undergoing the Voluval. The mark is normally displayed on the hand, and takes the form of a crooked line starting at the wrist, ultimately branchng into five lines that reach the fingers. It is called the Mark of Lightning, since it resembles a lightning bolt. It signifies that the wearer is to participate in forming a storm of some kind.
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
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Electus Matari

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Posted - 2007.04.02 00:01:00 - [189]

Originally by: Nachshon
I'd like to see that.

I also had an idea for a mark, which I wrote into a first draft story about my character undergoing the Voluval. The mark is normally displayed on the hand, and takes the form of a crooked line starting at the wrist, ultimately branchng into five lines that reach the fingers. It is called the Mark of Lightning, since it resembles a lightning bolt. It signifies that the wearer is to participate in forming a storm of some kind.


You might want to convo or eve-mail Meklon about this as he has already played through undergoing the ritual.
Regards,

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Nachshon
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Posted - 2007.04.02 06:02:00 - [190]

I will probably talk to him IC, especially since my corp is likely to join EM in the near future.
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Taurevanime
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Posted - 2007.04.04 01:42:00 - [191]

Okay I had a crazy idea going for the strong affinity the Minmatar seem to have with sails and I figured that there were no strong beasts of burden like horses or oxen on the Matari homeworld, apart from maybe the Brutor but I'll get to that later.

So lets take the Sebiestor as an example they live on vast open steppes and of course they can walk across it, but with the invention of the wheel they have carts. But nobody wants to pull a heavy cart all day so they started putting sails on them to at least reduce the workload a little when they could. And in the artic lands they simply fitted skis to them.

Now the Verhioker took it a step beyond being the nomadic people that they are. They created large land sailing ships to traverse the dangerous deserts where they lived, transporting themselves and all their belongings at once from oasis to oasis.

The Brutor living on small tropical islands used sailing ships of course to move about.


I did some thinking and well cities and villages couldn't really be developed to larger levels because of the lack of beasts of burden. So the Sebiestor started building their towns on hillslopes and creating two markets as it were on them. On the crest was the market were goods would be bought and on the bottom the market where they'd be sold. This made ease of transporting goods throughout the cities easier at least. it also resulted in the first planned cities on Minmatar.

Because of their city planning and overall cunning the Sebiestor tribe grew larger and larger untill it eventually got in contact with the sea. After a course of decades maybe centuries a Sebiestor or Brutor ship got in contact with each other and after some initial misunderstanding (The sebiestor thinking the Brutor to be giants) the Brutor traded their oxen to the Sebiestor for other valluables of a kind, marking the start of true progress on the Matari mainland now that they would no longer be constraint by where their sailing carts could go, nor did they have to found cities on hills anymore.

However the oxen were strong and made the smaller land sailing vessels obsolete, the larger ones were still able to transport more goods quicker over larger distances. And so the sail holds a special place in all Matari hearts and traditions?
Arnulf Ogunkoya
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Posted - 2007.04.04 10:48:00 - [192]

Originally by: Taurevanime
Okay I had a crazy idea going for the strong affinity the Minmatar seem to have with sails and I figured that there were no strong beasts of burden like horses or oxen on the Matari homeworld, apart from maybe the Brutor but I'll get to that later.
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And so the sail holds a special place in all Matari hearts and traditions?


Nice idea. A decent bit of colour for the background.
Wren
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Ushra'Khan

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Posted - 2007.04.06 19:30:00 - [193]

Originally by: Taurevanime
Okay I had a crazy idea going for the strong affinity the Minmatar seem to have with sails and I figured that there were no strong beasts of burden like horses or oxen on the Matari homeworld, apart from maybe the Brutor but I'll get to that later.

So lets take the Sebiestor as an example they live on vast open steppes and of course they can walk across it, but with the invention of the wheel they have carts. But nobody wants to pull a heavy cart all day so they started putting sails on them to at least reduce the workload a little when they could. And in the artic lands they simply fitted skis to them.

Now the Verhioker took it a step beyond being the nomadic people that they are. They created large land sailing ships to traverse the dangerous deserts where they lived, transporting themselves and all their belongings at once from oasis to oasis.

The Brutor living on small tropical islands used sailing ships of course to move about.


I did some thinking and well cities and villages couldn't really be developed to larger levels because of the lack of beasts of burden. So the Sebiestor started building their towns on hillslopes and creating two markets as it were on them. On the crest was the market were goods would be bought and on the bottom the market where they'd be sold. This made ease of transporting goods throughout the cities easier at least. it also resulted in the first planned cities on Minmatar.

Because of their city planning and overall cunning the Sebiestor tribe grew larger and larger untill it eventually got in contact with the sea. After a course of decades maybe centuries a Sebiestor or Brutor ship got in contact with each other and after some initial misunderstanding (The sebiestor thinking the Brutor to be giants) the Brutor traded their oxen to the Sebiestor for other valluables of a kind, marking the start of true progress on the Matari mainland now that they would no longer be constraint by where their sailing carts could go, nor did they have to found cities on hills anymore.

However the oxen were strong and made the smaller land sailing vessels obsolete, the larger ones were still able to transport more goods quicker over larger distances. And so the sail holds a special place in all Matari hearts and traditions?


Brilliant.

Also, remember that Minmatar "displayed a level of mechanical technology that has never been seen before or after the enslavement"

I always pictured them as having all sorts of wind, water, beast or other sources of energy that protected the environment (but after the occupation that love for 'green' energy was destroyed and now the planet is slowly being polluted).

The mountain tribes (Vhrekor) might have built massive windmills that powered elevators and maybe even huge underground hydroponic farms (with shafts to let in light and mirros to diffuse this light and the power from the windmills kept water pumped into these areas).

I have a feeling that the potential for neat stuff is limitless here.

As far as my sketches of marks, I haven't had much progress, I can't actually draw well.

I'll keep at it however and try to at least make a few.
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Nachshon
Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Electus Matari

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Posted - 2007.04.18 07:01:00 - [194]

OK, Voluval update. My character is soon to be adopted by a family (NPCs). He is taking the place of his fallen weapons tech in the family, and he will undergo the Voluval.

Story will come after the Voluval takes place.
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