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KIATolon Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:26:00 - [121] Just like we saw your 10,000 man coalition was TOO BUSY to help us in cache.
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:28:00 - [122] i thought goons loved to suecide?
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:30:00 - [123] Edited by: c0rn1 on 24/10/2006 00:30:20 Originally by: KIATolon Just like we saw your 10,000 man coalition was TOO BUSY to help us in cache. We are not here to teach you fishing. BoS came into the coalition as self-sufficient good guys and whatnot. You got cache served on a plate and stupid enough not to set stron time into your PRIME time and losing your 11 dreads while attacking a POS in cache where we could've used your support in f2a. after that we could've taken care of your issues. Don't blame others when you're stupid enough to not follow the agenda by covering 100% of the moons in your system. We didn't put the agenda up for nothing since we KNEW that RA is a POS spamming force. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x -V- Diplomat -V- High Council Member Life's a waste of time ...
Shadoo The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:36:00 - [124] Let's be clear -- Q-GQ was lost because of KOS, not because of LV or V. I am sure they would have backed up us again, would yielding dreads in Creek be feasible with current state of the hamsters. All I can say is we did our best and this time with the morale and isk, it just wasn't enough. However -- the information the defected CEOs who talked to you after a meeting held just minutes after negotiations was either 1) wrong on purpose 2) misunderstood. At no point did I ever hear that LV and V was going to be -10 in the meeting I and the CEOs were part of. Yes, there were heated words about LV's lack of assistance with the current situation, which was quickly in chat channel corrected by me to say there's nothing LV CAN do to help with current game mechanics. But as far as my sh*tty dialup currently allowed me to listen, at NO point was -10 tabled. Yes, we should have talked to you first. But the offer afaik was extended and delivered literally minutes before the CEOs meeting took place. You may or may not choose to believe me on this, what's done is done and there's no point crying over spilled milk. -- Good fight tonight, makes a difference trying to fight with overview filled with blue (20min change on standings ftl). Thank you Nebba for making it very clear to me who to shoot at by those lovely yellow boxes among the sea of blue. Does this mean I can have red candles too?
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:37:00 - [125] c0rn, thats all this guy has left.. the blame game. I've just been listening to his self pitty on msn for the last hour, it's shocking just how helpless he paints his then alliance to have been. YES ERA did enter as a strong partner, but low morale quickly took hold and people simply stopped showing up for him. Of course this is ALL LV's fault. He now says that because we didnt help him ENOUGH in Cache, that offsets the 20 Large Fitted tower debt that ERA / OSS / BOS whoever we want to call it actually owe LV but never paid. The ISK isnt an issue for us though, the real issue is the amount of blaming going on. I tell you one thing. If LV ever go down we wont be blaming people around us. It will be LV's fault if LV fail.
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:40:00 - [126] What the hell are you talking about that isn't my AIM.
Jags Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:41:00 - [127] Originally by: Major Dim Edited by: Major Dim on 23/10/2006 23:11:36 Originally by: Aldari Verve MMMMMM...Vodka Actually i wait for the day all V and LV and the rest of Eve comes to russia and i can invite them to my house and bring some awesome russian girls there and we will go to the russian sauna and drink so much vodka that ur doctor will tell u, if u keep on livin 3 month u must be uber ^) When Scotland play in Russia I will take you up on that offer - me and about 5000 others so you better have plenty vodka and nice Russian ladies waiting on us. If they are as nice as in Minsk and Vilnius than that will do us hairy arsed Scots quite nicely
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:42:00 - [128] Originally by: Shadoo Let's be clear -- Q-GQ was lost because of KOS, not because of LV or V. I am sure they would have backed up us again, would yielding dreads in Creek be feasible with current state of the hamsters. All I can say is we did our best and this time with the morale and isk, it just wasn't enough. However -- the information the defected CEOs who talked to you after a meeting held just minutes after negotiations was either 1) wrong on purpose 2) misunderstood. At no point did I ever hear that LV and V was going to be -10 in the meeting I and the CEOs were part of. Yes, there were heated words about LV's lack of assistance with the current situation, which was quickly in chat channel corrected by me to say there's nothing LV CAN do to help with current game mechanics. But as far as my shtty dialup currently allowed me to listen, at NO point was -10 tabled. Yes, we should have talked to you first. But the offer afaik was extended and delivered literally minutes before the CEOs meeting took place. You may or may not choose to believe me on this, what's done is done and there's no point crying over spilled milk. -- Good fight tonight, makes a difference trying to fight with overview filled with blue (20min change on standings ftl). Thank you Nebba for making it very clear to me who to shoot at by those lovely yellow boxes among the sea of blue. Does this mean I can have red candles too? Hast and Omeega have taken my red candles HOSTAGE! The key to their return is Max Teranous finally viewing the "Anchorman" cinematic experience. Nebba* - The Vocal Majority
Evil Spyer	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:43:00 - [129] True colors of the KOS alliance chat [ 2006.10.23 23:46:01 ] Shadoo > Folks -- PLEASE do not smack LV and V [ 2006.10.23 23:46:18 ] Shadoo > let's just enjoy shooting them [ 2006.10.23 23:46:25 ] Tazerz2 > amen [ 2006.10.23 23:46:40 ] Tazerz2 > and that's the KOS prayer [ 2006.10.23 23:51:45 ] Tarhess > I'll try to take solace in the fact that I can shoot shinra people now [ 2006.10.23 23:53:03 ] Necro EvilZombie > **** it ill ally with RAGOON to crush lv and v [ 2006.10.24 00:01:32 ] Ferfax > we are allied with goon and ra right now =p [ 2006.10.24 00:02:00 ] Midori Kumiyo > well we are napped, not quite the same thing [ 2006.10.24 00:02:47 ] Tazerz2 > we are almost unofficially allied
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:43:00 - [130] Originally by: grappler Originally by: petergriffen What Chosen Path did was hand over Tribute to D2 by turning off sovereignty claims on all POS towers, without letting ERA know about it. They had hoped to join D2 after doing so, but they were denied admittance. ERA and KOS left their respective regions because when RA began POS spamming Cache, LV and -V- and the "coalition" didn't bother to come help them when they needed it, even though both had come to help the rest on numerous occasions. That's what happened, if I remember correctly. you dont /signed People really need to STFU about what happend in tribute with CHSN(especially former members of ERA). Things were more complicated then people make them out to be. When you have an allied relationship with someone where you help them and they dont help you then as an alliance you need to make decisions that are in your own best interest reguardless of the interests of those so called "allies". When you are in an allied relationship and one party just takes but never gives there is no shame in acting in your own best interest. The real shame is continuing to let that relationship allow you to be taken advantage of. disclaimer: im not sure if all that applies to the situation with KOS, however if the same thing is happening to them that happend to CHSN then good for KOS. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-

Johannes Buckbeak Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:46:00 - [131] Originally by: Zigadenus Things would be better had you not agreed to make your coalition mates negative. Giving up is one thing, this is another entirely. What did you think we would do? [/quote Short reality check: -V- and LV wardecced their "coalition mates", not the other way around. And "we attacked you because you were about to attack us" - yeah, right, where have I heard that before? We got tired of being the nut in the *****ers, your meat shield, with no support, so we wanted to get out from under. Still, it is nice to see that you can actually find WC on the map, seemed you had forgotten the way there recently. At least this way we can go out fighting - see you in my sights, hopefully. PS. Looks like CCP's obscenity filter has been set a little high
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:47:00 - [132] Well justice has been delivered swiftly tonight anyway, look at the LV killboard.
Nebuchadnezzar I Grettistak Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:53:00 - [133] Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 24/10/2006 00:53:49 NAPing RaGoon was just a silly silly silly thing to do. And all this "we wont come to help KOS¦" is stupid. I know alot of regular members in -V- not understanding why we didnt go to your aid in WC - i guess today we found out, because you were making a deal with the enemy we always have been fighting...shame on those of you who agree with your leaders in this decision.
Taka Caldari Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:53:00 - [134] Originally by: Evengard Using others like living shield. Just like RA is using goons as a living shield? funny isnt it -------------------- My Sig Got Podded!!
Mechanical Death Minmatar Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 00:55:00 - [135] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: grappler Originally by: petergriffen What Chosen Path did was hand over Tribute to D2 by turning off sovereignty claims on all POS towers, without letting ERA know about it. They had hoped to join D2 after doing so, but they were denied admittance. ERA and KOS left their respective regions because when RA began POS spamming Cache, LV and -V- and the "coalition" didn't bother to come help them when they needed it, even though both had come to help the rest on numerous occasions. That's what happened, if I remember correctly. you dont /signed People really need to STFU about what happend in tribute with CHSN(especially former members of ERA). Things were more complicated then people make them out to be. When you have an allied relationship with someone where you help them and they dont help you then as an alliance you need to make decisions that are in your own best interest reguardless of the interests of those so called "allies". When you are in an allied relationship and one party just takes but never gives there is no shame in acting in your own best interest. The real shame is continuing to let that relationship allow you to be taken advantage of. disclaimer: im not sure if all that applies to the situation with KOS, however if the same thing is happening to them that happend to CHSN then good for KOS. Well put and thank you. Respect. MD Chosen Path [CHSN]
Cadman Weyland ISS Navy Task Force	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:03:00 - [136] Edited by: Cadman Weyland on 24/10/2006 01:03:57 Originally by: c0rn1 losing your 11 dreads while attacking a POS in cache where we could've used your support in f2a. Id like to point out that we lost those Dreads a good 7/10 days b4 the F2A ops and MLM had their 3 losses replaced within 5 days. We were in F2A, both with a Dread(s) and a support fleet, infact i still have a Cyclone with gang mods and cyno gen parked in the F2A station. Who owns it now btw, id like to sell the ship I had to go afk from game for a week and forgot bout her. Any ways that was ages ago now. I feel sorry for the grunts in KOS.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:12:00 - [137] Originally by: Evil Spyer True colors of the KOS alliance chat [ 2006.10.23 23:46:01 ] Shadoo > Folks -- PLEASE do not smack LV and V [ 2006.10.23 23:46:18 ] Shadoo > let's just enjoy shooting them [ 2006.10.23 23:46:25 ] Tazerz2 > amen [ 2006.10.23 23:46:40 ] Tazerz2 > and that's the KOS prayer [ 2006.10.23 23:51:45 ] Tarhess > I'll try to take solace in the fact that I can shoot shinra people now [ 2006.10.23 23:53:03 ] Necro EvilZombie > **** it ill ally with RAGOON to crush lv and v [ 2006.10.24 00:01:32 ] Ferfax > we are allied with goon and ra right now =p [ 2006.10.24 00:02:00 ] Midori Kumiyo > well we are napped, not quite the same thing [ 2006.10.24 00:02:47 ] Tazerz2 > we are almost unofficially allied yeah, it is pretty lame move pasting alliance chat notice how these words where spoken AFTER these are timestamped 2006.10.23 22:16 Lotka Volterra has declared war on Knights Of the Southerncross. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. 2006.10.23 22:18 Veritas Immortalis has declared war on Knights Of the Southerncross. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Karoth Tyu FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:12:00 - [138] KOS members are cute like adorable little puppies. Can I keep a few, Uncle Chowdown? Pwetty pweeze?
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:13:00 - [139] Originally by: HankMurphy again, isn't it interesting how quickly ppl turn against you? Even more interesting--folks who think it's OK to have their cake and eat it, too. The facts have been made quite clear from many folks in KOS. On top of that, intel from other sources hostile to the coalition listing KOS as "Future Friendlies" Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Skape Gote Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:14:00 - [140] Originally by: Evengard Guyz, I just love you... And everybody just start to see true face of LV. After you cannot give them what they want they just throw you out. Who's gonna be next?? Place your bets gentelmens. I bet Goons ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......

Bulletooth Tony Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:16:00 - [141] Originally by: Dortock Yeah very easy for you to say that while ERA, KOS, UCC have been buffering RA for you all this time. Now that they are all gone due to your own lack of support for them, we will see how you call for help now that the front line is on your doorstep. You say that ERA should have taken care of itself, yet you know your entire Coalition isn't faring well against RA and one alliance is supposed to fend the whole of RA off? You know what RA was and is and you still have the face to say that ERA/UCC/KOS should have been fine on their own.. I mean honestly, didn't you guys seriously want to remove RA from the game? lol at the fanbois
mistress velator velator pie-rat	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:16:00 - [142] People are assuming that KOS are -10 because they NAP'd RA/GS. This is a half-truth. The real "crime" is way more sinister than this but ofc it cannot be revealed for your forum perusal habits. KOS members that think that should start asking questions way up the ladder.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:17:00 - [143] lol at person about to have his post removed King Tinfoil Hatter
Karoth Tyu FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:19:00 - [144] Originally by: mistress velator People are assuming that KOS are -10 because they NAP'd RA/GS. This is a half-truth. The real "crime" is way more sinister than this but ofc it cannot be revealed for your forum perusal habits. KOS members that think that should start asking questions way up the ladder. cue X-Files theme
Synapse Archae Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:19:00 - [145] For comedic purposes, here's a paraphrase of what I'm hearing. KOS: You never came to help, what did you expect? ERA: Its true, they NEVER come to help, I hates them! LV: We didn't help you, because we're telepathic and knew you would run because we didnt help you, because we're telepathic and knew you would run because.... V: We still hate you for for running when we didn't show. BoB/ISS/OSS: Hey, CHOWN did this once...that sucked. CHOWN: Hey, screwing over allies is COMPLICATED. We sold you out for reasons too deep for you to understand. I'm not claiming I know anything about these conflicts, but I can say that this string of "You sold me out!" "Yes I sold you out ... but youre still a traitor!" is pretty amusing on the outside. I'm not saying I know much about this conflict. --------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=349194&page=1Redo Fleets[/ur
Peri Stark Gallente Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:19:00 - [146] You come down and start shooting your friends, of course your going to get a lot of kills. What else could we do but make a deal with RA to let us move out. We could not count on you to help us do it, you already have your hands full. And now someone lies to you and you increase your enemies when there was no need. I will feel sad for LV later after I try to save my own hide. ================================================ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
Bulletooth Tony Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:19:00 - [147] Originally by: Dortock lol at person about to have his post removed Post with your main
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:21:00 - [148] Edited by: Dortock on 24/10/2006 01:22:16 Originally by: Bulletooth Tony Post with your main My main is Kyguard, look him up and you'll know why I'm not posting with him It's monkey's play to figure out who my main is anyway so figure it out. King Tinfoil Hatter
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:23:00 - [149] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: HankMurphy again, isn't it interesting how quickly ppl turn against you? Even more interesting--folks who think it's OK to have their cake and eat it, too. The facts have been made quite clear from many folks in KOS. On top of that, intel from other sources hostile to the coalition listing KOS as "Future Friendlies" heh, well i am 'folks in KOS'. enlighten me to where we had plans to make you hostile? we got our asses kicked, time to step back, lick our wounds and get our footing. RA/goon decided to let us withdrawl. that means they made us blue intead of shooting us into oblivion while we ran how does this equal an 11th hour trechary while we lose a station? and what kinda silly rhetoric is?: Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Even more interesting--folks who think it's OK to have their cake and eat it, too. that borders on not making sense... or atleast nothing to do w/ this conversation. you work for george bush or somethin? is having our cake and eating it too fighting for you, helping you not loose your outpost nest egg, helping defend 2 of your stations and all at great losses we were glad to give for the cause????? stop drinking the punch man until you figure out what they've been putting in it
Bulletooth Tony Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:23:00 - [150] Originally by: Dortock Edited by: Dortock on 24/10/2006 01:22:16 Originally by: Bulletooth Tony Post with your main My main is Kyguard, look him up and you'll know why I'm not posting with him It's monkey's play to figure out who my main is anyway so figure it out. A bit bitter about 3FA?



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