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Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:12:00 - [121] Use for Abaddon... H: 8 MDCM II with Veldspar Crystals M: All Cap rechargers L: 3 Mining Upgrades, 4 CPU II's. Well done CCP - the extra cpu on the abaddon means an extra mining upgrade.... But wait - you can do that on a Rokh as well... Hmmmm. I cannot think of a single reason why someone would want a Abaddon for pvp, unless they dont have another race's skills. It is just..... just.... dreadful. Thankfully, Caldari BS lvl5 Here I come! --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:12:00 - [122] Originally by: Frools anyone else get the feeling tier 2 bc are supposed to relive the demand on HACs a bit? harbinger looks set to do almost 2x the damage of my zealot (die faster too of course, but who cares it'll be a fraction of the price!) The Zealot isn't exactly the most damaging HAS, either. It just do ok'ish DPS for it's class. And the "placeholder" Harbinger had 8 guns, and damage/RoF bonuses. The final version is more reasonable. I like quite a lot the battlecruisers, with their more than decent firpower and battleship-like hit points, but the battleships leaves me cold. In particular, the Abaddon looks like it's going to be an Apocalypse bis. All-out DPS is of limited use (gankers will love them, and that's about it). And all-out tank is even more limited, as there's no point tanking if you can't kill. So players are going to mix lasers and projectiles to keep the cap usage from being obscene while keeping as little in the way of firepower. Well, at least we won't do only EM and thermal damage anymore Tuxford, couldn't you give the Abaddon 4 missile slots? ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:15:00 - [123] Originally by: Lord WarATron Use for Abaddon... H: 8 MDCM II with Veldspar Crystals M: All Cap rechargers L: 3 Mining Upgrades, 4 CPU II's. Well done CCP - the extra cpu on the abaddon means an extra mining upgrade.... But wait - you can do that on a Rokh as well... Hmmmm. I cannot think of a single reason why someone would want a Abaddon for pvp, unless they dont have another race's skills. It is just..... just.... dreadful. Thankfully, Caldari BS lvl5 Here I come! I'm just going to flat out say it: Whoever is responsible for the Abbadon in it's current form has obviously never flown Amarr ships, never flown in fleet combat, and never used lasers. I'm also going to bet they don't even play the game at all except with a Polaris ship. That's the only explanation I can think of for why the dev in Jita local on the test server could possibly claim the Abbadon is in any way a good ship for things other than padding the killboards of enemies. Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:17:00 - [124] Originally by: Nervar Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Taurequis I just want them to reskin my Claymore with the Huricaine model and ill be happy. actually the sleipnir would be the counterpart to the hurricane, not the claymore /signed Make it happen tux, and ill love you forever Aye good point. Just dawned on me I trained for a Muninn to do some missions the other day that wouldnt let me Claymore into the deadspace. Biproduct of that is I can fly a Sleipnir now. So yeah Hurricane Mod on the Sleipnir 4tw!!! Taur
Kyozoku Loot	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:17:00 - [125] 8/4/8 on a bc!
Hellspawn01 Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:17:00 - [126] Originally by: Lord WarATron Use for Abaddon... H: 8 MDCM II with Veldspar Crystals M: All Cap rechargers L: 3 Mining Upgrades, 4 CPU II's. Well done CCP - the extra cpu on the abaddon means an extra mining upgrade.... But wait - you can do that on a Rokh as well... Hmmmm. I cannot think of a single reason why someone would want a Abaddon for pvp, unless they dont have another race's skills. It is just..... just.... dreadful. Thankfully, Caldari BS lvl5 Here I come! True. But with the bonus its a better ship for missions. Ship lovers click here
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:18:00 - [127] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Originally by: Lord WarATron Use for Abaddon... H: 8 MDCM II with Veldspar Crystals M: All Cap rechargers L: 3 Mining Upgrades, 4 CPU II's. Well done CCP - the extra cpu on the abaddon means an extra mining upgrade.... But wait - you can do that on a Rokh as well... Hmmmm. I cannot think of a single reason why someone would want a Abaddon for pvp, unless they dont have another race's skills. It is just..... just.... dreadful. Thankfully, Caldari BS lvl5 Here I come! True. But with the bonus its a better ship for missions. Raven is cheaper and does them better. Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes
Nyxus GALAXIAN Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:19:00 - [128] Why does the Maelstrom have the SAME pg as the Abaddon? Doesn't the Abaddon need MORE grid? Why doesn't the Abaddon have the biggest capacitor and recharge rate?? How is the Abaddon EVER supposed to tank? Where are the "defensive weapons" that are capless? Why not some missile slots on this thing??? Where is the Harbingers 8th turret slot??? Why does the Drake get 7 launchers + rof bonus and the Harbinger only have 7 + rof bonus? Drake will simply outclass it in every way. I am so disapointed in the Amarr ships, I can't even express it. Nyxus It's great being (shafted again as) Amarr, ain't it? Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:21:00 - [129] Originally by: Kyozoku 8/4/8 on a bc! Its 8/4/6 ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
2SecondsTilMidnight	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:21:00 - [130] Holy **** drake looks nice. Almost seems overpowered. Hello my new BC :)
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:22:00 - [131] Originally by: Kyozoku 8/4/8 on a bc! Look closer at the screenshot and you'll se that it's 8/4/6. Did you really think the Amarr BC would be given 2 more slots than the others? ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:22:00 - [132] I can only conclude that the Abbadon's ingame description is meant as a cruel joke. Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes
Arushia Nova Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:25:00 - [133] Harbinger and Myrmidon look nice. Though I'd rather have more lows on the Myrmidon than highs with no hardpoints. 100m^3 and a drone damage bonus seems about right, 125+ or a drone capacity bonus and it starts intruding on the Dominix and Ishtar's turf. Harbinger's got plenty of laser damage and a drone bay to rival the Brutix. Best of all it's not a big gold chicken. I won't comment on grid or CPU till I've actually tried to fit them up, and I won't comment on Drake or Hurricane since I don't fly Minmatar or Caldari.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:27:00 - [134] Hi, I really can't see why anyone would fly tier 1 bc's anymore. Anyone care to point out where the - Brutix Ferox Cyclone Prophecy Fit in to the grand scheme of things. Taur
Talon Calais Gallente Nubs.	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:28:00 - [135] Thanks for screwing the Gallente pilots. Hyperion - The big Brutix: Less PG than a Mega, an insanely high cap recharge rate, slower than the flying garbage can (Typhoon). This makes for the following setup: 8x Electrons MWD ; Cap injector ; cap rechargers 2 armor reps ; cap relays I can think of another ship that would be better with said setup and any other setup you could concieve. Myrmidon: I might fly this, Brutix + Vexor mashed together. But I'd still want to fly either of the other more dedicated ships.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:29:00 - [136] Originally by: Berrik Radhok I can only conclude that the Abbadon's ingame description is meant as a cruel joke. Anagram of Abaddon from Amarr PvPers - A Bad Nod!!! --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Centurin Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:35:00 - [137] This whole thread makes me sad. Congrats Caldari pilots. CCP definitely loves you. ----------------------------------------------- "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Optimus Prime
O Thief The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:38:00 - [138] Originally by: Taurequis Hi, I really can't see why anyone would fly tier 1 bc's anymore. Anyone care to point out where the - Brutix Ferox Cyclone Prophecy Fit in to the grand scheme of things. Taur Three words: Gang Assist Mods
Centurin Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:40:00 - [139] Incase you missed the Tux post, they are on the new BCs. Just weren't in the description. ----------------------------------------------- "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Optimus Prime
The Wizz117	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:47:00 - [140] Originally by: Centurin This whole thread makes me sad. Congrats Caldari pilots. CCP definitely loves you. no the real caldari are severly ******. since it only got 4 missile launcher hard points and not 2 defensive bonuses but also 1 bonus to the turrets ------------------------------------------- That ccp created a universe doesen't mean they'r gods
ActiveX Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:49:00 - [141] Please for the love of god, someone post the new stats for T2 Long and short range ammos (Particularly Javalin and quake new vs old and Tremor and Spike ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:49:00 - [142] Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Centurin This whole thread makes me sad. Congrats Caldari pilots. CCP definitely loves you. no the real caldari are severly ******. since it only got 4 missile launcher hard points and not 2 defensive bonuses but also 1 bonus to the turrets Is it me or dont you make any sense? --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:50:00 - [143] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Centurin This whole thread makes me sad. Congrats Caldari pilots. CCP definitely loves you. no the real caldari are severly ******. since it only got 4 missile launcher hard points and not 2 defensive bonuses but also 1 bonus to the turrets Is it me or dont you make any sense? The wizz is a close comrade to detaurus, just ignore him. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.24 15:50:00 - [144] Originally by: ActiveX Please for the love of god, someone post the new stats for T2 Long and short range ammos (Particularly Javalin and quake new vs old and Tremor and Spike 154 in queue.... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.24 16:07:00 - [145] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Taurequis Hi, I really can't see why anyone would fly tier 1 bc's anymore. Anyone care to point out where the - Brutix Ferox Cyclone Prophecy Fit in to the grand scheme of things. Taur Three words: Gang Assist Mods As the bloke below your post said they (gang assit bonus) are just missed from the description... So are all the tier 1 versions basically redundant? (except for a slightly better tank) Taur
O Thief The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 16:11:00 - [146] Originally by: Taurequis As the bloke below your post said they (gang assit bonus) are just missed from the description... So are all the tier 1 versions basically redundant? (except for a slightly better tank) Taur Just have too see how it pans out. I can't imagine never using the Brutix, the DPS with 7 med TII blasters and 5 med drones is still pretty nice.
Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.24 16:13:00 - [147] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Derran Is it just me or does 100m3 drone bay on the Gallente BC seem low for it to be a 'drone boat'? It is only 25m3 more than a Vexor. You cant just take one stat and say its not good enough... you have to look at the whole ship. I suppose. It is just that 100m3 feels low for me compared to other drone ships. 4 heavy drones is good but that is all you can carry and when one dies, so does your DPS. I'd be happier with 120m3 because at least then you can put some mediums in as replacements and you won't be in the drone DPS range of a Dominix since you wouldn't be able to carry 5 heavies. I like the ship as a whole but it just feels wrong to me as a 'drone boat' with 100m3.
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.10.24 16:14:00 - [148] so Tier1 BC's get one gang mod (without those mids slot mods to increase number), Tech 2 get 3 gang mods ... Tier 2 fit 2 gang mods? and yes, caldari Tier 2 BC >> any of the others, looks far more powerful not even going to start on the BS's we all know the only one use in fleets will be the Rokh and the gallente one will be used by the up close and personal people, the others will gather dust in stations
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.10.24 16:14:00 - [149] mael is really subpar tank bonus useless in fleet, crap dps... slow and cumbersome for short range... and about bcs... i'm wrong or caldari/gall are the new cheap solopownmobile?
Zixxa	Posted - 2006.10.24 16:15:00 - [150] Originally by: Ath Amon mael is really subpar tank bonus useless in fleet, crap dps... slow and cumbersome for short range... and about bcs... i'm wrong or caldari/gall are the new cheap solopownmobile? You are wrong. Minma gets new pwnallmobile(Hurricane). Caldari also get pwnmobile but first in their history.

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