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Ath Amon
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Posted - 2006.10.25 05:30:00 -
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uops :P
mmmmm so "new" geddon should be around 8k armor right?
ok let's say 2 mods for tanking instead of 3... it should still be quite better than the geddon
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Lord Augustus
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Posted - 2006.10.25 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy CCP:
and seriously... whats the deal w/ the caldari love? Some kinda dev/player fraternization we should know about?
Caldari love?? just becouse we dont whine like girls it doesnt mean we dont get hit with the nerf bat. Check out the all new impressive javelin nerf !! Minmattar Whinners!! I Hate You So Much . The only ones with a reason to whine are ammarr
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Theoraden
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2006.10.25 06:20:00 -
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I know why the Abbadon is so nerfd. Its cos they made you a fourth BS!
Its called the Harbinger.
Now theres the biggest unbalance of all. ---
I have a Biatch called res0
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 06:22:00 -
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You taken a good hard look at the Hurricane and Drake yet?
Hint: they make the Harbinger look barely average  ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Venkhar Krard
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:25:00 -
[275]
Remove one med slot from the Hurricane, one launcher slot frome the drake, add one turret on the ferox and the cyclone - there, balance..
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:29:00 -
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No, not balance, just 4 ships not worth flying instead of 2 good ships and 2 not worth flying.  ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Hitomi Ayame
Royal Knights of Khanid Order of the Khanid Crown
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Thud
Originally by: Hitomi Ayame
Originally by: Nyxus
And when you look at the damage it's nothing spectacular for over twice the cap cost on an Arma, or THREE times the cap cost of a Hyperion
Can someone verify this graph? It can't be accurate... if it is then someone needs to look at the Abbadon now!
Why should it be wrong? Abaddon has the same rof boni than the geddon, just a single turret more,that doesnt make that mutch difference. But the geddon has a way larger drone bay.
It's not that I think Nyxus is lying, or that I'm particularly suspicious of his math...
I just have a hard time believing the CCP would give us something this bad.  - - - Hitomi Ayame, Lady Marshal, Royal Knights of Khanid
The Royal Knights of Khanid are now recruiting! |

rodgerd
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen hey does anyone know what the hell a "heavy assualt missile" is? its on the drake discription
A recent most recent Caldari I-Win button. Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance. |

rodgerd
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Derrios gall drone BC w/ only a 100 drone space =\
I don't see the problem. That's two flights of mediums, or a flight of mediums, a flight of lights, and replacements or utility/logistics drones. No, it isn't heavy drones and replacement heavy drones, but they're BS class weapons. Complaining we can't fit multiple flights of heavy drones would be like Caldari players whining they don't get cruise missiles on their BC. Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance. |

Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:11:00 -
[280]
A Drake can do 80-90% of the damage of a cruise raven. Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes |

keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:14:00 -
[281]
A blaster Brutix can do 80-90% of the damage of a rail Megathron. And outdamages a number of popular Tempest setups.
What's the news again? ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:15:00 -
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Yes, but a drake has a ton less range, and lesser tank to BS weapons, no heavy nos, no drone bay.
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:19:00 -
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25m3 drone bay on Drake actually. ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 25/10/2006 08:23:36 I meant insignifant, not "no drone bay". My bad.
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Doxs Roxs
White Wolves Defence league The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:41:00 -
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Holy sh*t on a stick! 
Who in his right mind would ever climb into a Ferox after seing the new Caldari BC? This only emphasises that the Ferox is seriously under gunned...
Anyway, I really like the looks of the Caldari BS stats and the Gallente BS stats. Will be interesting to give them a ride I wonder how the Amarr BS is to sustain its cap though, with double the cap usage from the guns I see it running out of cap really fast, though I suspect it will melt anything that gets in its way. The question is wich of those two options it is that will occur first.
Regards
/Doxs After almost half a year, why is my face just a '!' ? And please fix the Javelin T2 rail ammunition... |

Doxs Roxs
White Wolves Defence league The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi Seems that even with AWU 5 you are going to need a fitting mod to fit 8x 425mm II on a Rokh.
15000 * 1.25 = 18750 2625 * 0.9 * 8 = 18900
Maybe go down a size and gain some tracking, on small ships this is actually viable, the question is how much DPS you loose on large rails? And above all, can you recover that dps by fitting an extra dmg mod instead of the fitting mod?
Regards
/Doxs After almost half a year, why is my face just a '!' ? And please fix the Javelin T2 rail ammunition... |

Doxs Roxs
White Wolves Defence league The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Soyemia M storm cant fit full rack of those guns without fitting mod .
Mstorm seems quite good in all other ways, thou I think that shield boost boni is useless for fleets.
Its almost always worse than the Rokh's resistance bonus as well. Bonuses don't really need to be equal but Maelstrom doesn't really have much else going for it either. Well its a solid good ship but I can't help thinking its a bit subpar compared to other battleships. Maybe I'm just a whiner though.
I dont get it, I though you were the one to set the stats? Why whine about them then? Could you not just bump it up a notch if you felt like it?
Regards
/Doxs After almost half a year, why is my face just a '!' ? And please fix the Javelin T2 rail ammunition... |

keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:49:00 -
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Tux is is part game designer part sacrificial offering, TomB is still the big boss and has final say Afaik. ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

mr order
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:13:00 -
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Didnt We have a really good info page with tons of cool links on the forums here for all the kali test server screenshots, or did that one get spammed out?
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Fon Revedhort
Tion Astronautics
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:36:00 -
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Sorry, if this has been already asked, but the question is: why do tier2 BC have MORE slots than tech2??  
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Waut
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Doxs Roxs Who in his right mind would ever climb into a Ferox after seing the new Caldari BC? This only emphasises that the Ferox is seriously under gunned...
Yes, an extra turret and one less missile slot would make it a real railboat.
That said, all the new BC's are brilliant. A good alternative for them overpriced HAC's I say
Outbreak! F*** Yeah! Coming again to save the motherf***ing day yeah! In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
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Malak Sidious
Minmatar Butcherbirds
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:52:00 -
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Look I dont really care if Amarr never get diversity in it's ships. I dont care if they decide not to work with the Khanid designs. That's fine, stick with pure laser boats. But for god sakes, if they are the king of turret platforms, show it.
Quote: My need to engage in homicidal behavior on a massive scale cannot be corrected, but, ah, I have no other way to fulfil my needs.
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Omatje
Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:34:00 -
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holy alphaminniebcinstapopperbatman!
Looks like i'm going to fly Minnie BC's afterall:)
Mael still has big fat NPC SHIP DONT USE IN FLEET all over it.
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StarLite
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:51:00 -
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The abbadon has enough PG to fit 8 Tach II's with only 1 RCU II [altho you don't have any pg left fr a repper or such]. Me likes :) _______________________________________________________________________
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Ketsuo
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Posted - 2006.10.25 12:28:00 -
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Well first of all I don't fly gallente ships but this might be an idea.
Everyones Looking at the new BS as a blasterboat anyone ever think of it as a railboat setup instead? iono someone want to answer that?
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.25 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ketsuo Well first of all I don't fly gallente ships but this might be an idea.
Everyones Looking at the new BS as a blasterboat anyone ever think of it as a railboat setup instead? iono someone want to answer that?
It's got way too short lock range to make use of railguns' main advantage. - What am I listening to? |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.25 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 25/10/2006 08:23:36 I meant insignifant, not "no drone bay". My bad.
That's still 5 warrior IIs, and that'll do me :)
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2006.10.25 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: StarLite The abbadon has enough PG to fit 8 Tach II's with only 1 RCU II [altho you don't have any pg left fr a repper or such]. Me likes :)
good luck firing them for more then 1 minute without any boosters (oh you wont be able to fit one with 8 tachyons on)
all I can say is that CCP have GIMPEd ammar ONCE AGAIN
Im getting FED UP with CCP and tux more then anything refusing to answer ANY of the ammar problems and just ignoring the whole debate al together. I think its perthetic and im my eye I most likly wont be around for much longer
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 12:55:00 -
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at the moment everybody is happy about getting new ships. me as amarr am not. why? the abaddon is useless. It has less cap than a apoc, less cargo than a apoc, it also has 8 turrets, thats cool only 7 lowslots (it will need at least 1 RCU for any fitting with tachyons so only 6 lowslots) btw it has a 25% RoF bonus (with bs lvl as i have it) but also a 25% more turrets cap use. i calculated and i see that the abaddon is not possible to fit in any useful way. ( turrets shooting all the time with standard 70-80 cap per shoot all 5.2 seconds means 600 capusage every 5.2 sconds (that is like 3 large armor repairer running all the time) with a large armor rep (now its 4) it is impossible to shoot and armor rep yourself more than 1,5 minutes. after that the lights are off and you are a huge (but nice looking) bunch of crap in the space.
it is the same as i started to play before 1.6 years... the armagedon ruls and will ruls allwas as the only useful battleship for the amar race (not faction ones) and i am not upset and not surprized that the new amarr bs is crap. i am used to have this every new patch. amar nerfd. thanks god i allready started skilling minmatar...
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2006.10.25 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: StarLite The abbadon has enough PG to fit 8 Tach II's with only 1 RCU II [altho you don't have any pg left fr a repper or such]. Me likes :)
good luck firing them for more then 1 minute without any boosters (oh you wont be able to fit one with 8 tachyons on)
all I can say is that CCP have GIMPEd ammar ONCE AGAIN
Im getting FED UP with CCP and tux more then anything refusing to answer ANY of the ammar problems and just ignoring the whole debate al together. I think its perthetic and im my eye I most likly wont be around for much longer
Mate really,
You shouldnt get so worked up about 1 race being more sucky then the others. Its how it works and has worked for the last 3 odd years.
This goes for everyone...
There was a time when Amarr ships ruled, then another when caldari did, then another when minmatar did and then Gal.
The Nerfbat swings wildly sometimes but in time all things come into acendency.
Yes peeps should point out where they feel certain areas of balance should be adressed.
But I feel your being a little short sighted in saying "amarr are poo and have always been and will always be poo so im quitting".
Relax - stick around for a while and see what happens. 
Anyways...
Back to the rabble.
Taur
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