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Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:09:00 - [181] Originally by: Ithildin Myrmidon: needs it's drone bay doubled to be viable. Drake: needs it's resistance bonus changed not to obsolete Ferox (inspite of suggestion below) Ferox: it cannot be said enough, it needs two more turret hardpoints. Maelstrom: shield boost bonus is no good. Change to shield capacity to make viable. Hyperion: sig radius aside, this ship is even tighter on grid than Megathron, it also has a bonus that requires grid heavy modules to function. Change to armour hit point amount bonus (in line with Erebus), it might even make it to close combat in fleet engagement (yeah, I'm lying my arse off, it'll die before one cycle of MWD). Abaddon: /me refere to Nyxus' thread. Change to damage bonus instead of rate of fire is the first and most basic step. myrmidon: shouldnt be able to field 5 heavies, so dronebay is there to stay, could argue for 20% in hitpoints increase instead of 10% for drones drake: meh, no real opinion on that ferox: agree maelstrom: agree Hyperion: little clue about blasterships Abaddon: not gonna happen, would give abaddon the best alpha strike with tachs Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:10:00 - [182] Abaddon is a joke .. I was first very happy to see that Amarr finally got rid of "cap usage per level" sillynees and then it strikes back with tier2 BC! Part of forum movement known as "It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö" To be Kali, or not to be Lagi
God forbid Amarr Mithril Inc	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:11:00 - [183] 8 - 4 - 7 O.M.G That Abadon is one totally uncool.. I really thought we would atleast get 8 - 4 - 8.. Quote: "He did not know, Who he was ******* with."
Now Mary	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:14:00 - [184] Originally by: Idara Um...why the hell does the Myrmidon have the exact same repper bonus as the Brutix? Can we get some variability here? They should change the rep bonus on the brutix to a falloff bonus, and change the falloff bonus from commandships on the Astarte to the repping bonus (or replace it altogether...) The idea of the Myrmidon out ganking the brutix was kind of sickening, and now it deffinately won't be able to - which is largely a good thing. Never the less, it would be nice to have one damage orientated battlecruiser, and one tanking orientated. I think switching those bonuses would accomplish that quite nicely, while still keeping the tankability of the Commandships in tact with the Astarte. If you are reading a post by this character, it's probably because I'm too lazy to select my main. Try not to lose any sleep over it, mkay?
Udyr Vulpayne Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:17:00 - [185] so basicly no work at all was done on the proposed abaddon of 2+ months ago when people where already complaining about exactly the same things. as no change was made and tux didnt bother to explain his ideas behind the ship i still have the same questions i had back then: - what is the supposed "new role" this ship will add to the amarrian fleet? - supposedly it will "tank better than an apoc" but the apoc will still have something it does better. seeing how the apoc isnt all that good in other departments besides tanking and it shares the same slotlayout i would like to know what the apoc will do better. - supposedly it will "gank better than a geddon" but the geddon will still have something it does better. now here i suspect that the geddon will be able to deal a bit less damage for a longer time due to the abaddons crappy cap. as i'm not sure thats what tux was aiming for though i would like to know his thoughts on this as well. same as with my other post i will obviosuly also be happy if some other dev decides to answer those questions in case tux cant be bothered.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:17:00 - [186] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Ithildin Myrmidon: needs it's drone bay doubled to be viable. Drake: needs it's resistance bonus changed not to obsolete Ferox (inspite of suggestion below) Ferox: it cannot be said enough, it needs two more turret hardpoints. Maelstrom: shield boost bonus is no good. Change to shield capacity to make viable. Hyperion: sig radius aside, this ship is even tighter on grid than Megathron, it also has a bonus that requires grid heavy modules to function. Change to armour hit point amount bonus (in line with Erebus), it might even make it to close combat in fleet engagement (yeah, I'm lying my arse off, it'll die before one cycle of MWD). Abaddon: /me refere to Nyxus' thread. Change to damage bonus instead of rate of fire is the first and most basic step. myrmidon: shouldnt be able to field 5 heavies, so dronebay is there to stay, could argue for 20% in hitpoints increase instead of 10% for drones drake: meh, no real opinion on that ferox: agree maelstrom: agree Hyperion: little clue about blasterships Abaddon: not gonna happen, would give abaddon the best alpha strike with tachs Myrmiddon: It's got 5 turrets and no bonus for them. This along with capability for only medium drones makes it the least damaging of all BCs. It needs those heavy drones. Abaddon: It needs it for capacitor purposes more than anything else. - What am I listening to?
Dupac Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:18:00 - [187] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: dalmety we armarr are completely stuffed i thought the abaddon was gonna get 8/4/8 whats the point of 8/4/7 that dont give us much to play with without any kind of cap bonus all mids are gonna be filled with rechargers and boosters anyway. the bc looks good and i am happy with that but the abaddon is just another waist of space cant see any use for it tbh. tux said he likes the idea of people running out of cap in longer engagements due to the hp increase but its armarr that are really gonna suffer and its not like we have any secondary weapons to which we get bonuses for to rely on, i really thought we might get some kind of break in kali guess not. Is something preventing you fitting a cap booster? Devs were one step ahead of you on that one - that's why they gave it the smallest cargo capacity of any tier three - just to make absolutely sure it was completely useless.
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:20:00 - [188] Why does the Hyperion have 10% more Kinetic resist then all the othe BS's? Everything else for my race, pure sex. ------------------ CEO of TKI
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:22:00 - [189] Originally by: Ithildin Myrmiddon: It's got 5 turrets and no bonus for them. This along with capability for only medium drones makes it the least damaging of all BCs. It needs those heavy drones. Yeah, the small drone bay of the Myrmidon hurts it, especially since it has no other damage bonus. Sure, you can field 3 x heavy and 2 x med, but that leaves you with no spares. We'll see.
Hectaire Glade Amarr Forum Jockey	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:22:00 - [190] Well, the Abbadon is going to be horribly disappointing, unless Tux really does have a major fix comming for Amarr (not just gimping down EAN, fix the real problem, base resists on ~all ships of 60% to the primary damage type). This is going to be the death of lasers. The new BCs look fantastic though, going to be great to see the BC class get an airing in PVP more, the new agility changes make them pretty nimble as well to turn (acceleration is a different issue). Mixed bag in the patch so far, lets see how the changes unravel in the next few weeks.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:23:00 - [191] Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Why does the Hyperion have 10% more Kinetic resist then all the othe BS's? Everything else for my race, pure sex. Why does the Abaddon have 10% more explosive resistance than the other BShips? - What am I listening to?
Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:24:00 - [192] Originally by: Ithildin Myrmiddon: It's got 5 turrets and no bonus for them. This along with capability for only medium drones makes it the least damaging of all BCs. It needs those heavy drones. Abaddon: It needs it for capacitor purposes more than anything else. myrm: it still got 8 highslots, thats most likely 3 noses, coupled with a repair bonus you are looking here on a wear down strategy not gank with domi drone dps i suppose only real testing can resolve our different opinions on that one abaddon: yeah i realized that, but i'd rather give the abaddon more cap Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:26:00 - [193] Yeah, I wouldn't balance a ship around an overpowered module scheduled for nerfing. - What am I listening to?
Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:28:00 - [194] Originally by: Ithildin Yeah, I wouldn't balance a ship around an overpowered module scheduled for nerfing. hehe true but afaik nos wont get nerfed in kali, so you cant ignore it either Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
JoCool Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:34:00 - [195] Edited by: JoCool on 24/10/2006 19:34:46 Originally by: Udyr Vulpayne so basicly no work at all was done on the proposed abaddon of 2+ months ago when people where already complaining about exactly the same things. as no change was made and tux didnt bother to explain his ideas behind the ship i still have the same questions i had back then: - what is the supposed "new role" this ship will add to the amarrian fleet? - supposedly it will "tank better than an apoc" but the apoc will still have something it does better. seeing how the apoc isnt all that good in other departments besides tanking and it shares the same slotlayout i would like to know what the apoc will do better. - supposedly it will "gank better than a geddon" but the geddon will still have something it does better. now here i suspect that the geddon will be able to deal a bit less damage for a longer time due to the abaddons crappy cap. as i'm not sure thats what tux was aiming for though i would like to know his thoughts on this as well. same as with my other post i will obviosuly also be happy if some other dev decides to answer those questions in case tux cant be bothered. Alone for his awesome picture you should give this man an ear! _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Plymer Ization ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:49:00 - [196] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Why does the Hyperion have 10% more Kinetic resist then all the othe BS's? Everything else for my race, pure sex. Why does the Abaddon have 10% more explosive resistance than the other BShips? Every race has a 10% increase on the 'base' armour resists (60 EM/10 EXP/25 KIN/35 THERM)- Minnies get a 70% EM resist, Amarr get 20% explosive resist, Gallente get a 45% Thermal resist, and Caldari get 35% Kinetic resist.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:54:00 - [197] To have 70% instead of 60% em resist on armor means an increase of 40% in resistances.
Stoye Barud Minmatar Mine Mine Mine	Posted - 2006.10.24 19:54:00 - [198] since somebody said that they dont want the raven hull on the rokh, here is a nice pic of the rokh ;) thanks god ... CALDARI GET 2 TOTALLY SYMETRICAL SHIPS ! OMGGGGGGGGG !!1!eleventy!!!!11! http://asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=8 and here is the hyperion http://asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=6 cheers !
Stoye Barud Minmatar Mine Mine Mine	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:04:00 - [199] Originally by: Tassi To have 70% instead of 60% em resist on armor means an increase of 40% in resistances. i think he means 10% added to the total resistance, not what is already
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:11:00 - [200] Which still brings more advantage to minmatar because they recieve 40% resist bonus on EM.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:14:00 - [201] Originally by: Tassi Which still brings more advantage to minmatar because they recieve 40% resist bonus on EM. Just leave it, by that resoning amarr get the least boost, but it doesnt seem to affect their uber armor tanks does it?
Sadist Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:21:00 - [202] Tux, wtf were you smoking when you made the Myrmidon? I think you left off a couple low slots a couple turret hardpoints and about 100 m3 drone bay. Please add them in Kali, thx. òòòòòòòòòòòò VIP member of the [23] Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
Derrios Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:23:00 - [203] gall drone BC w/ only a 100 drone space =\ ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: wierchas noobhunter hmm blowing ascn carebears in empire ? can i join ?
Spikum Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:27:00 - [204] Edited by: Spikum on 24/10/2006 20:27:39 ignore me
Dreez Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:28:00 - [205] Whats up with this constant crapbonus for Gallente... 7.5% armor rep. Ohhwell. I guess its just another 14pages long thread comming soon about the tier3 BS when it comes. There is NO WAY that you can compare the effectiveness of having resist bonus to rep-bonus. Having Tuxford fixing the blasters is like having a blind man teaching you how to drive - just wont work.
soonsvavzface	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:31:00 - [206] what are the req bs skill for the tier 3 ones ?
Imode Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:33:00 - [207] just racial bs level 3 ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
soon svavzface	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:44:00 - [208] Originally by: Imode just racial bs level 3 ok cool xD
DellBoy Express	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:53:00 - [209] the hyperion wont look like a megathron when it hits TQ right? when will it be made proper?
sr blackout Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.24 20:55:00 - [210] so how will carriers and other capital ships fend now? even with 50% boost to them its not enough... some of these faction/officer bs will have what current carrier hp is now... that is insane

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