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keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:07:00 - [61] It still needs more PG (much more PG) and about 20% more cap, really. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:08:00 - [62] Originally by: Magunus Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Magunus Good god, Drake will have 30% more damage with non-kinetic missiles than the Cerberus because of the 2 extra launchers, and about 5% more with kinetic? That's not including the extra 250mm rail you can fit on there. I don't know enough about the others to compare them, but dayum. Passive tank drake ftw. it will also replace the assault carcal for anti-inty supression imho. Probably. I don't really understand the bonus. Heavy missiles, assault missiles and heavy assault missiles. What are assault missiles? Does it mean assault launchers, or are they introducing 2 different types of assault missiles? But at least I know the devs have a master plan for reducing the price of HACs! Introduce tech 1 ships that can chew through them like a pez dispenser. fixed quote, and I think they meant "+5% bonus to heavy launcher, assault launcher and heavy assault launcher rate of fire per level" ...tbh I was looking for an excuse to train BC's to 5. the tier 2 BC's just gave me that excuse. ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
50freefly Caldari Purify	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:09:00 - [63] 100m3 is NOT enough for it to be a battlecruiser drone boat... Increase that by 25 or 50 or give it a bonus please, as that is a very weird amount. Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right. And they never meet.
Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:10:00 - [64] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 24/10/2006 14:10:35 Originally by: Idara Edited by: Idara on 24/10/2006 14:02:19 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Idara Those have to be old. The images I have saved from McGregor's thread show the exact same powergrid stats for the Hyperion. Plus, those Struc/Armour/Shield values are sooooo lame, I mean, they can't all have one 9600, one 10500 and one 8400 value. Yes, these new stats are very similar to the old stats that everybody said was totally inaccurate. Turns out they werent that inaccurate. The slot layouts have changed abit though, and some of the details. By "have to be old", I mean I'm praying they are. Those HP values are really lame, they're all the same ones spread over the 4 ships. Plus the Abaddon has **e for capacitor, should have the most so, I don't know, it can do it's damn job. And just like the minnie BSs where "speed is thier advantage" the Hyperion only has 10m/s more than the next BS, it should have prolly 150m/s base for that to really matter. Well, glad I've got Battlecruisers 5, sure as hell ain't going to be buying/flying those new BSs on release day. Originally by:** Cudeiro Originally by: Idara Um...why the hell does the Myrmidon have the exact same repper bonus as the Brutix? Can we get some variability here? 25m3 drones or 5% MHT dmg per level maybe? Yes please. Lets make it a drone boat and not just a drone using Brutix. i'll fill you in a bit in your cluelessness the hyperion has a lot less mass than the other BS and will benefit greatly from that when equipping a mwd (which is kinda a given for blasterboat) you whined about the fitting of 1400 and tachyon, tachyon are technically a tier higher than 1400 and have therefore obviously higher fitting reqs lame hp values: well geee lets take 100hp from there and add it somewhere else so the numbers look a bit different, geee gotta agree with the **ty cap for abbadon tough, can only think its a mistake like the 45 km targeting range Originally by:** Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:10:00 - [65] Originally by: 50freefly 100m3 is NOT enough for it to be a battlecruiser drone boat... Increase that by 25 or 50 or give it a bonus please, as that is a very weird amount. It gives it 4/5 the damage of a Dominix - it's more than enough. It gives you enough room for 2 waves of medium drones. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:10:00 - [66] Originally by: Grimpak ...tbh I was looking for an excuse to train BC's to 5. the tier 2 BC's just gave me that excuse. I took a bet they would be awesome and trained it over the summer ^_^ ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Commander Thrawn Tarnak inc. Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:11:00 - [67] Originally by: Stephar Abaddon is a joke. The capacitor is pedestrian, it has the same grid as the Maelstrom (projectiles are much easier to fit than lasers), it's got the smallest cargohold for cap charges... I'm trying to see the silver lining here. Abbadon sucks bad, im not even looking at it atm, it most likely gonna take up storage space in my hangar the Harbinger on the other hand looks ok. does it have 6 or 8 lows??? 50m3 drones is perfect bonues are fine Does anyone know if you can fit 7xheavy pulse II and a ok tank on this guy??
O Thief The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:11:00 - [68] Originally by: Idara Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Idara Well, glad I've got Battlecruisers 5, sure as hell ain't going to be buying/flying those new BSs on release day. Please don't. I look forward to crashing into your Tier 2 BC at 1700 m/s in my shiny new hyperion and ripping you to shreds in a few seconds :) Good luck tracking anything up close I know I'm being quite *****y here, I'm sure everything will work out... 5 mids... can you say 'dual webs'
Elve Sorrow Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:11:00 - [69] Stop whining about dronebays. Our BC has "Drones" in its description and only gets 50m3. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:12:00 - [70] I was starting to train up T2 hybrids in preparation for the Rohk, but the Drake has triggered moist underwear syndrome. Seriously, 5% rof, 5% resists, and 7 launchers lots has me drooling. Exactly what I'd have asked for for christmas. Having a really sexy model to go with it is just icing on the cake. Rohk looks good to me too. I was thinking it might end up with an additional slot over the raven, which with 8 turrets would be a little horrendous. Otherwise, well it's a nicely rounded ship IMO. Spot on.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:12:00 - [71] Originally by: Tiuwaz the hyperion has a lot less mass than the other BS and will benefit greatly from that when equipping a mwd (which is kinda a given for blasterboat) I fear for the Tempest with this change. Will have to test it before I whine though. When we can. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
SibSpi	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:12:00 - [72] http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e203/sibspi/battlecruiser_minmatar.jpg I love my ability to use model exporters and apply the maps in a 3d program ^_^ waits to get banned for model pic leakage
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:13:00 - [73] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/10/2006 14:13:52 Originally by: SibSpi http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e203/sibspi/battlecruiser_minmatar.jpg Hot! :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:13:00 - [74] Edited by: Alex Tremayne on 24/10/2006 14:13:49 Originally by: Idara Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Idara Well, glad I've got Battlecruisers 5, sure as hell ain't going to be buying/flying those new BSs on release day. Please don't. I look forward to crashing into your Tier 2 BC at 1700 m/s in my shiny new hyperion and ripping you to shreds in a few seconds :) Good luck tracking anything up close I know I'm being quite ***y here, I'm sure everything will work out... I'm glad someone is sure everything will work out, because I have a sneaking suspicion that all these ships will make it on to TQ with no real changes. Which is great for the BCs, they've all been balanced nicely from what I can see and I'm looking forward to flying them. The Hyperion is seriously lacking as a blaster platform though. It's slow: only 5m/s faster than the Megathron, and the second bonus is redundant. Oh, and the grid is very weak. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort**
kebab v2 Goatsnake Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:15:00 - [75] Originally by: Stephar Abaddon is a joke. The capacitor is pedestrian, it has the same grid as the Maelstrom (projectiles are much easier to fit than lasers), it's got the smallest cargohold for cap charges... I'm trying to see the silver lining here. This rof bonus is crazy with no cap usage bonus, at rank 5 your guns are using 25% extra cap too run constantly. IMO 5% damage makes more sence without a cap usage bonus.
CRUSH3R Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:15:00 - [76] Are all the ships stats calculated with the Kali 50% bonus or they will be more boosted?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:16:00 - [77] Originally by: Commander Thrawn the Harbinger on the other hand looks ok. does it have 6 or 8 lows??? 50m3 drones is perfect bonues are fine Does anyone know if you can fit 7xheavy pulse II and a ok tank on this guy?? 8/4/6 like the Hurricane. 1875MW after skills. 7x HP II w. AWU 5: 2310.97 = 1455.5MW. 7x Foc Med P II w. AWU 5: 1320.97 = 831.6MW HP II doesent leave you with that much grid to work with, but 7x Foc Meds w. MWD Jector and 2 reps seems ideal. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
O Thief The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:20:00 - [78] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 24/10/2006 14:10:35 the hyperion has a lot less mass than the other BS and will benefit greatly from that when equipping a mwd (which is kinda a given for blasterboat) See...this is the same problem with the phoon, it's "the fastest" of the current battleships, but only by what, 5-10m/s? At those slow BS speeds, that means jack. Also, have you looked at the Megathron lately? It has the exact same mass as the Hyperion. So, your arguement makes no sense. The agility stats are hidden. Fly a Vindicator and you will see what I mean. Its HEAVIER than the mega, but much more agile. The hyperion WILL be excellent with an MWD.
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:20:00 - [79] Originally by: Frools anyone else get the feeling tier 2 bc are supposed to relive the demand on HACs a bit? harbinger looks set to do almost 2x the damage of my zealot (die faster too of course, but who cares it'll be a fraction of the price!) Just finally giving the other races a BC that outdamages their racial damage HAC - the gallente have had one for a while in the form of the Brutix :) ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:20:00 - [80] The new BC can't use any Gang mods?? It this true or just left out?
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:21:00 - [81] Originally by: Serj Darek Maelstrom is shieldtanker, so it needs more CPU. And less grid. Yet, strangely enough, it has identical grid to the aba.
O Thief The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:21:00 - [82] Originally by: Jet Collins The new BC can't use any Gang mods?? It this true or just left out? True, or what possible reason would there be for using Tier 1 BC's?
Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:22:00 - [83] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 24/10/2006 14:10:35 the hyperion has a lot less mass than the other BS and will benefit greatly from that when equipping a mwd (which is kinda a given for blasterboat) See...this is the same problem with the phoon, it's "the fastest" of the current battleships, but only by what, 5-10m/s? At those slow BS speeds, that means jack. Also, have you looked at the Megathron lately? It has the exact same mass as the Hyperion. So, your arguement makes no sense. hmm okay didnt crosscheck with current mega stats, only 5 m/s faster than it heh i guess that was done to not infringe on the minni speed advantage, otherwise it would always be a certain win for hyp against a minni bs Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:24:00 - [84] Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Alex Tremayne The Hyperion is seriously lacking as a blaster platform though. It's slow: only 5m/s faster than the Megathron, and the second bonus is redundant. Oh, and the grid is very weak. Agility is more important that top speed. Grid is okay if you're using electron II's/tank setup which is still excellent DPS. O_o The Hyperion has less grid than the Megathron and you think that's not a problem? It has the same mass as the Tempest and is 10m/s slower than it. This is not what I call "fast". This really, really sucks as a blasterboat. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Idara Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:26:00 - [85] Edited by: Idara on 24/10/2006 14:26:40 Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: Idara Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 24/10/2006 14:10:35 the hyperion has a lot less mass than the other BS and will benefit greatly from that when equipping a mwd (which is kinda a given for blasterboat) See...this is the same problem with the phoon, it's "the fastest" of the current battleships, but only by what, 5-10m/s? At those slow BS speeds, that means jack. Also, have you looked at the Megathron lately? It has the exact same mass as the Hyperion. So, your arguement makes no sense. hmm okay didnt crosscheck with current mega stats, only 5 m/s faster than it heh i guess that was done to not infringe on the minni speed advantage, otherwise it would always be a certain win for hyp against a minni bs That's what I mean. Yes, Minnies should be the fastest, which means that the 'phoon should really have a much higher base speed, so the Hyperion can be right behind it without infringing on the minnies "speed advantage". As for the poster about the Hyperion agility, taking that the Hyperion will have "good" agility on blind faith eh? Hell, give the damn thing 5% Blaster damage and a 5% MWD speed bonus FFS. Boom! Blasterboat.
Nervar Exotic Dancers Club	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:27:00 - [86] Thank you tux, cant wait to test out how the maelstorm will be at sentrytanking Recruitment post
O Thief The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:29:00 - [87] Edited by: O Thief on 24/10/2006 14:29:39 Originally by: Alex Tremayne Originally by: O Thief Originally by: Alex Tremayne The Hyperion is seriously lacking as a blaster platform though. It's slow: only 5m/s faster than the Megathron, and the second bonus is redundant. Oh, and the grid is very weak. Agility is more important that top speed. Grid is okay if you're using electron II's/tank setup which is still excellent DPS. O_o The Hyperion has less grid than the Megathron and you think that's not a problem? It has the same mass as the Tempest and is 10m/s slower than it. This is not what I call "fast". This really, really sucks as a blasterboat. Top speed is not important. Mass is not important. AGILITY is important. Fly a vindicator with MWD and you will see what I mean. Or, stick a couple of nanofibers on your Megathron. Thats how the Hyperion will fly.
Kapitanleutnant Mei	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:31:00 - [88] Originally by: CRUSH3R Are all the ships stats calculated with the Kali 50% bonus or they will be more boosted? just looking at caldari- I assume its included comparing the new structure values the rokh has 9000 or 6000*1.5 - also the drake has 6000 shield- if that wasn't with the 50% + a bit boost it would be incredible
Zixxa	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:34:00 - [89] Hmm, is it enough PG on Rokh/Hyperion? To fit 8 425 t2 + MWD? Looks not very good. 50 m2 dronebay on Rokh is just suxx.
Rhuu Gallente Es and Whizz	Posted - 2006.10.24 14:38:00 - [90] The new battlecruisers all look terrifying. Random thing I noted: the hurricaine is lighter than all of the caldari cruisers and only a tiny bit slower than a moa.

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