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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:56:00 -
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2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:57:00 -
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Good! :D
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:57:00 -
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Owned! 
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:59:00 -
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Ahaha.. Very nice!
Seems fair to me tbh.
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:00:00 -
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16km is still too much if you ask me.
What's a vagabond doing with stabs anyway? Running like a dog with its tail between the legs? Running is for industrials!
Forsch
Defender of the empire
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Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:00:00 -
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Yes, one wcs to be allowed even on the warships. Smth like
1 wcs 25% penalty
2 wcs 75%
3 wcs 90%
It will alow to fit situationally one wcs, but definitely destroy stabsetups.
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:00:00 -
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dampeners gonna be a pain for any vaga which will still use stabs
 Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
OH YES
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
PRAISE GOD.
Because I said so...
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O Thief
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
The best news I have heard all year
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starship enginer
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:09:00 -
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plus it should more than double its lock time if u test it!
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: O Thief
Originally by: Rafein
2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
The best news I have heard all year
Woot i agree with BD's corp member. Something is wrong here.
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Nir
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:11:00 -
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16KM seems pretty light actually. But its the long awaited stabnerf, guess I shouldn't complain.. :)
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Ras Blumin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:11:00 -
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EXCELLENT!
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Dragonring Omega
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:12:00 -
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when are these changes going into effect?
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xenodia
Gallente
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
2 stabs on a vagabond brought a Vagabond from 60 Km lock range to 16 KM.
Woot
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Ricky Baby
Beagle Corp
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:14:00 -
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about ******* time :D
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Alerce
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:14:00 -
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Nice, so industrial ships can only outrun passively then, since warpstabs will make the other defensive tools, like ecm useless as well.
Stupid if u ask me :(
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:15:00 -
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Watch Local hull nanos price increase to hell till Kali gets out 
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Atomic Mayhem
Umbrella Corporation.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:15:00 -
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:D
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/10/2006 16:18:19
How much was the penalty to targeting range supposed to be? 50%?
With max skills, you should have a targeting range of 62,5 km in a vagabond. If I cut that in half two times, I end up with 15,625 km which the game shows as 16 km probably.
Vagabonds after Kali might have 2 stabs, 1 sensor booster and rely on the extra shield hp one shield extender is going to give. In the end, it loses about 1k shields with that setup (with sensor booster and 2 wcs).
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Octavio Santillian
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:19:00 -
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I think what people fail to realize, at least in the case of a vaga, is that a lot of vaga pilots have spent near a billion isk on the ship + faction mods + implants. ItÆs only natural that said pilots want to protect that kind of investment, because a vaga can be easily killed if pined down and everyone is gunning for them.
Now IÆll take the WCS nerf in stride, I do think there should be some kind of penalty. It will be interesting to see how the new inertial stabs work as a possible replacement.
ôWeÆre not doing for ISK...........WeÆre doing it for a ****load of ISK!ö
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:21:00 -
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1 stab + signal amplifier? lol.
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Rafein on 24/10/2006 16:22:36
ya, but it losing 1k HP, while everyone else is gaining HP, it's gonna pay for stabbing.
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:25:00 -
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WCS nerf does nothing since logging out still isn't an exploit... 
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Eilie
WCS nerf does nothing since logging out still isn't an exploit...
Does nothing?!... You got to be kidding me.
I personally meet 50013 times as many wcs *****s, compared to logging-out-nubs
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Eilie
WCS nerf does nothing since logging out still isn't an exploit...
Does nothing?!... You got to be kidding me.
I personally meet 50013 times as many wcs *****s, compared to logging-out-nubs
But now they will all log out instead... 
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Eilie
Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: Eilie
WCS nerf does nothing since logging out still isn't an exploit...
Does nothing?!... You got to be kidding me.
I personally meet 50013 times as many wcs *****s, compared to logging-out-nubs
But now they will all log out instead...
I doubt it. Ive flown a few combat ships with WCS in the past (Ishtar etc) and never logged. I dont log because it's a matter of decency. You're playing a game. If you get caught, live with it. Dont logout, you just ruin other people's fun.
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:42:00 -
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Is there any difference between pure t1 and named stabs in their penalties?
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Octavio Santillian
I think what people fail to realize, at least in the case of a vaga, is that a lot of vaga pilots have spent near a billion isk on the ship + faction mods + implants. ItÆs only natural that said pilots want to protect that kind of investment, because a vaga can be easily killed if pined down and everyone is gunning for them.
A bit of a chicken & egg argument this.
People were not stabbing a vaga because they were using faction mods & implants, people were using faction mods & implants because it was viaable to use stabbed setups with the vaga without loosing combat effeciency.
In short: faction mods were a result of stabs (because if you played right you would basically never die with a vaga, so it pays to faction it up), not the other way around.
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