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evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:43:00 - [1] Edited by: evistin on 13/11/2006 15:45:15 This is really expensive, honsetly. Costing for both TS and vent are less then $3 per year per person on the very large setups. Thats about $7 more. Now I admit I said I would consider paying $1 a month, but I do not see anything currently that makes it worth that $1 to a $0.30 cent. Yes there are some nice features, but voice stops when the client is closed. That means I can't talk to friends during DT, or when I can't log into Eve. Granted this is the problem of every ingame voip system. But honsetly, I have only seen just a few features that really make it stand out. Maybe the voice quality is low for testing purposes, but I think Vent does better. What do you guys think? I personally will get it still. as a CEO I might need to talk to other CEO who use it. ----------- Management and Leadership
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:44:00 - [2] Once its fully implemented it should be interesting and possibly worth the fee. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Solarienne Caldari Steel Frontier Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:46:00 - [3] I think that the price is perfectly acceptable if they deliver all of the features and provide Ventrilo level quality instead of the TS static/distortion-fest I am forced to endure on ops. But I will quickly cancel any sub I make for the service if it falls below the standard of current voice services. But seriously $10 or so is nothing... Why whine? Solarienne
evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:48:00 - [4] its not so much of a whine, but just looking at the features list right now and looking at what vent can do, I really do not see why one needs to pay more. I knew Vivox long ago are not fighing on price point, but I was not expecting more than double the caculates values. ----------- Management and Leadership
Natas Dog Caldari WarpCorp	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:48:00 - [5] I don't see myself paying for it. I host my corp's TeamSpeak server from my home, and it costs me $0 a year. It's easy to set up your own server and configure IP forwarding on your router if you've got more than a basic understanding of windows. Unless it comes with a LOT of handy features, TS is going to be my choice. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Dee Ellis	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:48:00 - [6] sticking to the TS/Vent which are free for most regulars... it's not like we all don't already have solutions.. cheapest option wins.. And it should be included in what we already pay tbh, it won't be used of not
Skraelingz Gallente Gallente Federal Bank Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:50:00 - [7] The voice quality on TS makes me want to punch babies. -----------------------------------------------
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:50:00 - [8] $10 a year is practically free, and it sounds like they've got some **** nice features in there. As much as I'll miss hearing people say 'whoops I crashed', I can live without VOIP outside the game. ---------- IBTL \o/
Natas Dog Caldari WarpCorp	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:51:00 - [9] Originally by: Solarienne I think that the price is perfectly acceptable if they deliver all of the features and provide Ventrilo level quality instead of the TS static/distortion-fest I am forced to endure on ops. That sounds more like the fault of your server admin, there are a number of very good voice codecs available for TS, some admins try to cut down on bandwidth usage by using the lowest possible quality codecs. I don't run a public server, so I'm able to crank it up a couple notches for my corp. _______________________________________________________________ He who laughs last... is usually the one the joke was about.
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:51:00 - [10] It's worth it, but only if everyone in your corp/alliance is using it. I really can't wait for the new gang features - it'll make coordinating stuff much easier and you can have different fleets shooting different targets without having to move everyone from one TS room to another. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!

LordofthePings	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:51:00 - [11] Edited by: LordofthePings on 13/11/2006 15:52:24 Originally by: Solarienne I think that the price is perfectly acceptable if they deliver all of the features and provide Ventrilo level quality instead of the TS static/distortion-fest I am forced to endure on ops. Thats just it though, from all testing and CCP statements we know that audio quality is below or just about on equal with Teamspeak. If people want to pay for a subpar service when there are cheaper, better options available.. go ahead. I'll stick with Vent, thanks. Edit: Someone point out these "nice features" to me please. Because so far all I see is pitfalls and negative points. I want to be able to use VOIP, really I do but not with the current audio quality.
Elgar Lightfoot Lightfoot Industries	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:52:00 - [12] Definately NOT worth it to me. I already pay more to play EVE than for any other MMO. Added cost for a feature I don't use or need is OTT for me.
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Skraelingz The voice quality on TS makes me want to punch babies. turn the channel codecs up then ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own.
F2C MaDMaXX London Transport Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:55:00 - [14] Yeah, if its at least to vent quality, i can't argue with less than $1 a month, its pittance, even less if you're paying in sterling ______________________________________ Natural Selection Developer Sound FX
Niccolado Starwalker Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:56:00 - [15] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 13/11/2006 15:58:06 Originally by: evistin Edited by: evistin on 13/11/2006 15:45:15 This is really expensive, honsetly. Costing for both TS and vent are less then $3 per year per person on the very large setups. Thats about $7 more. Now I admit I said I would consider paying $1 a month, but I do not see anything currently that makes it worth that $1 to a $0.30 cent. Yes there are some nice features, but voice stops when the client is closed. That means I can't talk to friends during DT, or when I can't log into Eve. Granted this is the problem of every ingame voip system. But honsetly, I have only seen just a few features that really make it stand out. Maybe the voice quality is low for testing purposes, but I think Vent does better. What do you guys think? I personally will get it still. as a CEO I might need to talk to other CEO who use it. 10 dollar a year.. thats nothing! Man, have you seen what will come with it?? It will be integrated into the game! You will have channels based on corp and groups and squadrons. This will make it worse for spies for example to get into the fleet channel, not to mention it will be way easier for the corp/alliance to administer it! There will be no impact on server side, and very little impact client side. The mic will show in EVE game, and all you have to do is have your mic connected and youre ready to go! Channels supports up to 200 players. And the voice quality will be waaay better then TS and ventrillo! Just that is to me worth 10 dollar a year who from time to time miss orders because of break ups! Later on there will come upgrades for it. Voice font was mentioned, not neccesay but it might be great fun. As they say, have the voice of a caldari!? EVE Voice seems to be fantastic! And hoestly, 10 dollars for one year??? Its nothing!!! But then, I gladly spent 160 dollar just for a limited poster on the fanfest!! (12000 isk)
Hohenheim OfLight Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:56:00 - [16] no I wont pay $10 becsue they can say its 10$ which is about ú5 but in reality we in the uk will be stuffed over again and it will end up costing us ú10 which is $20. So I wont pay just on grounds that they are invetible going to charge me more. ---------------------------------------------- Gone but not forgotten
Theronnos Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:58:00 - [17] so thats 10 per year, right? anyways, I would only really get it if my friends and or corp/alliance uses it. Though if it's 10 per year it's not that bad, aslong as you use it often that is. ---------------
Dee Ellis	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:01:00 - [18] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker EVE Voice seems to be fantastic! And hoestly, 10 dollars for one year??? Its nothing!!! But then, I gladly spent 160 dollar just for a limited poster on the fanfest!! (12000 isk) You, my good sir, are a loon.
Nate D Priory of Saints	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:01:00 - [19] Originally by: LordofthePings Edited by: LordofthePings on 13/11/2006 15:52:24 Originally by: Solarienne I think that the price is perfectly acceptable if they deliver all of the features and provide Ventrilo level quality instead of the TS static/distortion-fest I am forced to endure on ops. Thats just it though, from all testing and CCP statements we know that audio quality is below or just about on equal with Teamspeak. If people want to pay for a subpar service when there are cheaper, better options available.. go ahead. I'll stick with Vent, thanks. Edit: Someone point out these "nice features" to me please. Because so far all I see is pitfalls and negative points. I want to be able to use VOIP, really I do but not with the current audio quality. You are wrong. The VOIP service that Vivox is soon to provide has better voice quality than TS, Vent, and even your phone. Pure digital quality voice service. As to the OP. Out of Game voice will be implemented. Without having eve open you can talk to all your corpies "yay"... You also have the ability to call them on their phones or text them... bet you can't do that with Vent...! For an awesome stickied post with all the information you'd ever want to know about eve Voice Chat please cunsult the thread titled Voice Chat/Vivox Post-Fanfest Update! Hope this info helps, -NateÖ --- Voice Chat/Vivox Post-Fanfest Update Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:01:00 - [20] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 13/11/2006 16:02:20 Originally by: LordofthePings Edit: Someone point out these "nice features" to me please. Because so far all I see is pitfalls and negative points. I want to be able to use VOIP, really I do but not with the current audio quality. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=422023 This > All if it delivers what is promised ---------- IBTL \o/

D2O HeavyWater Synergy.	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:01:00 - [21] I would pay $10 a year for decent VOIP comms. TS works but the quality is crap at times.
Niccolado Starwalker Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:04:00 - [22] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 13/11/2006 16:08:46 Originally by: Dee Ellis Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker EVE Voice seems to be fantastic! And hoestly, 10 dollars for one year??? Its nothing!!! But then, I gladly spent 160 dollar just for a limited poster on the fanfest!! (12000 isk) You, my good sir, are a loon. Nope sir, Im a EVE Online FAN! The Poster in Question! As you can see, it also have the signatures to a lot of the Devs!! Nice eh!??
Dee Ellis	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Originally by: Dee Ellis Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker EVE Voice seems to be fantastic! And hoestly, 10 dollars for one year??? Its nothing!!! But then, I gladly spent 160 dollar just for a limited poster on the fanfest!! (12000 isk) You, my good sir, are a loon. Nope sir, Im a EVE Online FAN! That's what I said.
4rc4ng3L Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:07:00 - [24] The price sounds perfectly acceptable to me. It saves me having to deal with a seperate program and if the quality is good then its worth the yo-yo's Death is the only true freedom, brought on by our own ignorance.... Welcome to the "free" world in which we live...
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:08:00 - [25] An 800 man alliance can buy one hell of a TS server for $8000 a year... Hell, $8000 will cover EVE Radio's bandwidth donations for over a year! --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:08:00 - [26] $10... where i live i get 7 litres of gas for that, that means my car goes for about 80km. so $10 for a year, even if it's a totally wasted purchase, is nothing. Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. My sig is blue not pink although i can't argue with the slave part - Xorus wth whats this blue stuff all of a sudden? Did I miss a mail? -eris Bwahahahaha!11 Immy was here
Jason Marshall Hammer Of Light Astral Wolves	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:09:00 - [27] Originally by: Skraelingz The voice quality on TS makes me want to punch babies. Set your server to a better codec and get your lazy arse friends better mics Tacky lens flares in sigs 4tw!
Niccolado Starwalker Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Dee Ellis Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Originally by: Dee Ellis Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker EVE Voice seems to be fantastic! And hoestly, 10 dollars for one year??? Its nothing!!! But then, I gladly spent 160 dollar just for a limited poster on the fanfest!! (12000 isk) You, my good sir, are a loon. Nope sir, Im a EVE Online FAN! That's what I said. Then you are forgiven! And yes, see my poster in the edited post you quoted!
Norris Neophitus Minmatar	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:10:00 - [29] Ok poor quality TS and ventrilo is generally due to poor hardware or poor setups. The price is cheap though im not certain on exact costs $10 a year is it? will be interesting to see if there is an option with GTC's considering the number of people using them lately. I'd personally prefer to have VoIP bandled in rather than a seperate client for it but unless you get like a 90%+ take up on it i think it will be crap and less fleixble than other options. Also isn't this a crazy idea considering the issues we have with lag right now and this will be just another thing to tie up the cycles and bandwith of our precious new servers. --------------------------------------------------- \|Phoon = biggest baddest ship in eve-------\| \|Oh and somebody kill all those old unused\| \|secure cans (Personal Crusade)------------\|
Nate D Priory of Saints	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Norris Neophitus Ok poor quality TS and ventrilo is generally due to poor hardware or poor setups. The price is cheap though im not certain on exact costs $10 a year is it? will be interesting to see if there is an option with GTC's considering the number of people using them lately. I'd personally prefer to have VoIP bandled in rather than a seperate client for it but unless you get like a 90%+ take up on it i think it will be crap and less fleixble than other options. Also isn't this a crazy idea considering the issues we have with lag right now and this will be just another thing to tie up the cycles and bandwith of our precious new servers. This feature DOES NOT AFFECT LAG!... It is run on separate servers... Trust me... you can be completely lagged out in eve and still send and recieve voice comms just as if you were in the same room with the people... -NateÖ --- Voice Chat/Vivox Post-Fanfest Update Still waiting for CCP to hire me...! Don't worry... SoonÖ



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