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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.10 03:34:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:So CCP might as well shut down nullsec then. Hisec and hello kitty for all. Personally, the thing that breaks null is the fact that offers nothing fundamentally different than highsec save more people who want me dead and are willing to make it happen. Null isn't fundamentally different from highsec save activities that most individuals aren't terribly involved in and many don't want to be (sov management, alliance logistics, etc). It's just that people can shoot you in the face without repercussion. That isn't a draw for a lot of people. If isk generation is your only draw, then yeah, I can see why it's "dead." |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.10 04:07:00 -
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Well, I took your post as a response to the "I want to incentivize people to go out into nullsec", which I interpreted as "nobody wants to go to nullsec because it's dull". If that's not what you really meant, then I'll give a proper answer to that.
Carebears don't give a flying **** if SOV warfare is boring and laggy and blobby, they just care if the space they get to is quiet and allows them to be productive and earn more money than in empire (because, you know, there will be casualties at some point). They're the ones I'm talking about the most at this point, since they're more likely to actually do stuff in the space where we live, and as such make space feel lived in.
PVPers have a whole different set of issues with, as you said, laggy, blobby, etc etc etc. This is, in my mind, wholly because of the SOV system, and my idea of a fix for this would be to somehow make it so it not only would be beneficial to run around with smaller fleets, but in a proper war mandatory, because if you didn't, and the other guy did, you'd lose the systems you weren't defending. Or you could feint somewhere and send the real fleet to capture another system. Whatever, just something more dynamic than it is now.
I'm not holding my breath, though, I'm suspecting they're a bit too invested in the current dominion SOV system.
StuRyan wrote:However High sec is not the issue here...If however, null sec was a gold mine - which where you live it is... then what you complaining about? While you say that hisec is not the issue, I'm saying it has an issue. And from my POV it is that with hisec incursions paying as much as it is, the bar for incentivizing people who feel like shooting red crosses is that much higher, that I'd expect CCP's economist to have a heart attack if CCP actually did go through with that kind of changes.
I've asked what other sorts of changes to nullsec anyone can think of to incentivize more carebears etc to move out to nullsec, but I keep getting "incursions are fine, run incursions to finance your pvp in nullsec".
vOv |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2011.12.10 04:50:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:...Incursions should offer no more profitability than level 4's in highsec.... Going to disagree with that statement. Profitability of most activities increases with cooperation, some even depending upon it to be doable at all. Incursions should be no different. |

Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
267
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Posted - 2011.12.10 10:55:00 -
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If you want to be strictly technical, you can say it does increase in a way L4s etc don't, by everyone getting the payout, instead of it being split evenly across every fleet member (I think it is, I haven't done missions in years). :P
But I'm not going to advocate any specific changes, that's up to CCP to decide. |

StuRyan
Assisted Homicide Ace of Spades.
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Posted - 2011.12.13 17:25:00 -
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/me looks at incursion list and wonders if low/null sec has stopped crying now? |

xxanjoahir
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:38:00 -
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StuRyan wrote:/me looks at incursion list and wonders if low/null sec has stopped crying now?
LOL - I rocked on down to these sites and no one was about..... |
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