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Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Seleene on 17/12/2006 22:46:58 Over the past couple months, ISS and IAC have had a few disagreements. In EVE this means they have been trying to murder each other on and off for a while now. Earlier this week, IAC issued an open declaration of hostility against ISS. As of now, the state of play is: Mercenary Coalition is contracted against IAC. Veto is contracted against IAC. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate is at war with IAC. Firmus Ixion is at war with IAC. Lotka Volterra is at war with IAC. Ushra'Khan is at war with IAC. The following pics reflect what will be happening to IAC over the next few weeks: Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3 Pic 4 Pic 5 Pic 6 On a lighter note: OMFG @ the screenshots and FRAPS I am getting!! - Fight the Darkness!
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:37:00 - [2] Why, hello there! --------
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:37:00 - [3] Yarr!!!
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:38:00 - [4] lol damn... ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:38:00 - [5] Why, good evening IAC. [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing 1908.4 damage.
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:39:00 - [6] How do you fit a titan down a chimney?
Airen Cracken Gallente Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:39:00 - [7] Edited by: Airen ***en on 17/12/2006 22:39:45 come on...undock we are getting board outside the station :( btw nice fights so far
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:40:00 - [8] cookies and chrisma cake and lots of glook! Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:41:00 - [9] Lol that is mental. Titan in amongst all the dreads looks so cool! ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:41:00 - [10] Welcome to Hel Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:41:00 - [11] Well you lot can hardly complain about lag In response to the ISS "omg we're losing come help us" blob SOD, The Red Skull, TCF, Goonswarm, and more are on the way so don't expect an easy ride
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:42:00 - [12] And the best thing? System is playable with 500 :) Congratulations to CCP on that one. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Trigger64 Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:42:00 - [13] Ready to share your cookies yet? Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Layla Currie Well you lot can hardly complain about lag In response to the ISS "omg we're losing come help us" blob SOD, The Red Skull, TCF, Goonswarm, and more are on the way so don't expect an easy ride yay! Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Dinger Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:43:00 - [15] Round 2 has begun
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:43:00 - [16] Pew pew \o/ ----------
Baji Core ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:43:00 - [17] Good luck with that IAC And please come out and play, I'm quite bored!
Ovale KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:44:00 - [18] Edited by: Ovale on 17/12/2006 22:44:52 Yup, just sitting here watching the Bottle-not. The warp bubbles have a mesmerizing rhythm.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:44:00 - [19] Originally by: Baji Core Good luck with that IAC And please come out and play, I'm quite bored! ahaha they did but you guys ran away and cried to get a blob to show up
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:44:00 - [20] I wonder if more capital ships have ever been deployed in one place before. Scary stuff.
Tuomas Oravainen Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:44:00 - [21] Nice pics :)
CJ70 Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:45:00 - [22] Santa!!!!!
Lazydog Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:46:00 - [23] just our annual christmas carol singing raid some might say it looks like this but hey , i'm not one to judge! our singing aint that bad surely!! Ixion Unleashed Army Fleet Commander "Leeroy" Manoeuvres Division
Ryunoko Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:47:00 - [24] Being in a battleship makes me feel so .. small .. -----
Izo Azlion Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:47:00 - [25] ANd heres me on my ballbag piece of pooh laptop, 15 frames per second, Docked!!! Omg Pwn! Sigh. Well, January I can pew pew with the best of them again! Izo Azlion. --- Cortes owned my Sig. :/
Ultroth Minmatar Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Trigger64 Ready to share your cookies yet? Bugger the cookies!! Where's the beer stash?? "It's better to stay silent and appear stupid, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt!"
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:48:00 - [27] Bout time someone contracts Exanimo for it too =P --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. for your war! Or contact cptblood or [b]kakanu
Quenya Attani Gallente No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:48:00 - [28] Wow, nice show of force. ------------------------------------------------------------ We should not mourn those who have died, rather we should celebrate that people such as they once lived.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:48:00 - [29] IAC prob smuggeled some bad booze to MC to deserve all that I will prob have to log my MC alt for this one "Lord Samaiel, Rise " BNC Vs CELES Video
Oreh Anavrin No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:48:00 - [30] WOW!!!!
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:49:00 - [31] Edited by: Marovinchian on 17/12/2006 22:50:50 i think iac should feel nothing less than damn proud of themselves for what was felt to be needed to fight them. just sillyness lol oh.......and please don't post whines about iac not undocking to fight after you post pics of that rediculous fleet
Tovarishch Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:49:00 - [32] If only GM Ginger would come visit to make it a real Christmas party... All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise.
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:50:00 - [33] Dust will settle, and there will be still IAC vs ISS, where ISS will have no chance to stand.
BlackPulsar Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:51:00 - [34] a serious case of overkill i think, o well i hope your fraps'ing! i expect a video
Gabba Species 5618	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:51:00 - [35] Me thinks now is a good time to corner the isotope market. Impressive sight.
Dave White Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:51:00 - [36] It's EC-P8R and Trust all over again ____________________________________________ EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER What's missing here? Guess correctly and receive a free cookie.
Rick Thwaites Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:52:00 - [37] Originally by: Layla Currie Well you lot can hardly complain about lag In response to the ISS "omg we're losing come help us" blob SOD, The Red Skull, TCF, Goonswarm, and more are on the way so don't expect an easy ride calculates the teams and the pure firepower O.o! There is more firepower in one of those sides than in TomB's ego! Even a nerfbat couldn't hold up to that sort of firepower. The south is heating up, and looking like a lot of fun! makes a postcard, 'Wish I was there' Disclaimer: My views are my own and do not represent those of my corp./alliance/mother/etc. -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected]) Purple matches your eyes a little better, Cathath. = )! Not the first time I have been told I am too big...
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:53:00 - [38] I guess you reap what you sow. IAC sowed some big seeds -
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:53:00 - [39] My money is on IAC for this one. While having a big one may be something to brag about, everyone knows that staying power wins in the long run, and IAC certaily will loose some sensation being the drunktards they are. This will mean more pleasure for the nodes and them kicking MC et al to the kurb.
Wraithstorm Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:53:00 - [40] Thats a hell of a Coaltion. gosh Darn IAC, Whos cereal did you guys **** in?
Kassad Gents with Big Sticks	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:54:00 - [41] Most appropiate thread title ever! Damn sexy pics Seleene, what do you do for an encore?
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:54:00 - [42] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 17/12/2006 22:55:19 Seleene, you're missing the pict of your POS scrambling, webbing and shooting an ISS Moros.
matty01 The Priory	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:54:00 - [43] Originally by: Marovinchian Edited by: Marovinchian on 17/12/2006 22:50:50 i think iac should feel nothing less than damn proud of themselves for what was felt to be needed to fight them. just sillyness lol oh.......and please don't post whines about iac not undocking to fight after you post pics of that rediculous fleet agreed __________________________
Ehxo Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:55:00 - [44] Edited by: Ehxo on 17/12/2006 22:55:48 So it is x-mas and happy new ... -
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:55:00 - [45] Nice show of force, but a nice show of force will never win a war. I'd like to see how things are looking after a few weeks. ____________ The Priory Killboard
DiNoer Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:56:00 - [46] Tries to fit 'OMG', 'WTF' and 'BBQ' to this thread .. totally unsuccessfully La prospTritT de l'Gme libre La prospTritT de la fTdTration
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:57:00 - [47] That is one scary show of force.. -------------------------------
Aibee Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:57:00 - [48]
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:57:00 - [49] Originally by: Shin Ra My money is on IAC for this one. While having a big one may be something to brag about, everyone knows that staying power wins in the long run, and IAC certaily will loose some sensation being the drunktards they are. This will mean more pleasure for the nodes and them kicking MC et al to the kurb. aye, agree here. thats a pretty show of force, but the real question is how long is MC/FIX/LV/someonecomeupwithfunnynamesfortheseguys willing to stay and help ISS if MC/FIX/LV/whatever take IAC station systems...i mean sure they will lose the space...but empires pretty close, and IAC will only drink more and go sit in KDF... will be fun \o/
Gaiden R Gallente Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:58:00 - [50] nullI LIKE PIE!!!! Happy Days
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:58:00 - [51] anynoe got an estimate of the capital fleet on each side? I'd imagine the RA blob is equally impressive.
Chronus26 Gallente Dark Blood Contracts	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:59:00 - [52] Edited by: Chronus26 on 17/12/2006 22:59:54 mmmm... Carriers. Hey maw, when I grow up I wanna be just like Seleene!! EDIT: GL IAC... Oh wait, I DON'T like you? Well then goodluck MC. -----
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:59:00 - [53] lol, I love how every post from Shroud of Darkness is so full of it, in complete contrast to everyone else posting. Classy, guys ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Verone Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:59:00 - [54] Originally by: Kassad Damn sexy pics Seleene, what do you do for an encore? Naked pineapple juggling. I have teh seens it with teh my own eyez. VETO FOR HIRE
Attiladehun Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:01:00 - [55] A few more screenshots to add in this part pic 1 pic 2 pic 3 pic 4 pic5 pic6 pic7 pic8 pic9 Titan is huger then i expected Enjoye
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:03:00 - [56] Originally by: Butter Dog lol, I love how every post from Shroud of Darkness is so full of it, in complete contrast to everyone else posting. Classy, guys Uh showing up with a big blob doesn't mean anything butter come off it. Just because a bunch of your coalition is going "yaar" and people saying "nice capital fleet" how does what we are saying go against everyone posting? yes you'll put the pos into reinforced but that won't win you the war. Ask MC the real fun begins when those pos come out of reinforced
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:07:00 - [57] This war is far from over. IAC will never die, NPC stations will make sure of that, however, we still have a long way to go before that contingency. This war will make an excellent story one day. No matter what ending is written, IAC will weather this storm and come out stronger then before. Good Luck and Good Fights to both sides. --------------------------------------------
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:08:00 - [58] man i wish u guys would attack us, would make up for the lack of good fights we get in our war ;) - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:08:00 - [59] Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog lol, I love how every post from Shroud of Darkness is so full of it, in complete contrast to everyone else posting. Classy, guys Uh showing up with a big blob doesn't mean anything butter come off it. Just because a bunch of your coalition is going "yaar" and people saying "nice capital fleet" how does what we are saying go against everyone posting? yes you'll put the pos into reinforced but that won't win you the war. Ask MC the real fun begins when those pos come out of reinforced Try and keep it friendly as you can guys and not another Priory vs Butter Dog thread. Impressive fleet and as he said above the fun really begins when they come out of reinforced
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:10:00 - [60] Edited by: maGz on 17/12/2006 23:12:04 Originally by: Butter Dog lol, I love how every post from Shroud of Darkness is so full of it, in complete contrast to everyone else posting. Classy, guys So because we don't roll over and call you victors right away, we're full of it? So far I see people saying nice capital fleet etc, the fan-girls shouting "Death to IAC" and you flame-baiting. We're simply not allowed to have an oppinion anymore because you're almighty or something? EDIT: And I agree with Traxio, let's not turn this into another Priory vs BD-thread. No more flame-posts from Priory plz! ____________ The Priory Killboard
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:10:00 - [61] What an awesome sight, and above all kudos to CCP for not having a node crash!!! As an IAC pilot I am honoured that we receive such a welcoming commitee, its truly testimate to how seriously the rest of EVE takes IAC haha. For those who are asking us to undock (particularly ISS), shut your mouths. For anyone who has fought against IAC+Friends over the last 7 days, we've brought it in absolutely every way every time and we've never stood down. No-one has been left without a fight an it's been a HELL of alot of fun. We're not afraid to fight you its just 'not smart' to undock with 100 capitals in system, including a titan and being outnumbered 3:1 (400:1 if you count fighters hehe). Use your heads, cause we are. To all those that made today happen for ISS, congrats, its a massively impressive sight. I just don't think it's 'agressive' enough yet for a neutral alliance . Is this the first time, someone's gone red to ISS, only to have 8000 pilots worth of alliances on your back? Conspiracy at its best. Cheers for the future. Good times ahead.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:10:00 - [62] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog lol, I love how every post from Shroud of Darkness is so full of it, in complete contrast to everyone else posting. Classy, guys Uh showing up with a big blob doesn't mean anything butter come off it. Just because a bunch of your coalition is going "yaar" and people saying "nice capital fleet" how does what we are saying go against everyone posting? yes you'll put the pos into reinforced but that won't win you the war. Ask MC the real fun begins when those pos come out of reinforced Try and keep it friendly as you can guys and not another Priory vs Butter Dog thread. Impressive fleet and as he said above the fun really begins when they come out of reinforced it was more fun when your dreads were based out of utopia and we could go bump harass them until you would chase us off
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:17:00 - [63] LV's Highway to Hel fleet (2 Hels, up top) Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:17:00 - [64] Originally by: Attiladehun A few more screenshots to add in this part pic 1 pic 2 pic 3 pic 4 pic5 pic6 pic7 pic8 pic9 Titan is huger then i expected Enjoye The best part of those pics are the low-single-digit framerates in the bottom-right, despite the fact that there's no battle going on. Good luck to both sides on accomplishing, quite frankly, anything at all given that lag. --P
jarack Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:17:00 - [65] The one thing i must say, the thing which i enjoy the most, is the guns on the Avatar. The way they are all at the front of the armor plated head, makes for great screenies, could anyone get a picture of the titan firing a few guns with maybe 3-4 revelations near it.. Also im amazed to see the great turn out in capital ship fleets, it truely is an artwork in its own form. Although good luck to both sides, will be thrilling to watch from way back here. Eagerly anticipating to see the outcome. Jarack
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:18:00 - [66] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 17/12/2006 22:55:19 Seleene, you're missing the pict of your POS scrambling, webbing and shooting an ISS Moros. We don't take dreads into action unless their tanks have been properly tested. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Kassad Gents with Big Sticks	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:18:00 - [67] Originally by: maGz EDIT: And I agree with Traxio, let's not turn this into another Priory vs BD-thread. No more flame-posts from Priory plz! you feeling ok?
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:19:00 - [68] Originally by: Kassad Originally by: maGz EDIT: And I agree with Traxio, let's not turn this into another Priory vs BD-thread. No more flame-posts from Priory plz! you feeling ok? MaGz gets all fluffy and friendly when we finally have a decent fight. I think he's spent, smack wise, for the next day at least Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:20:00 - [69] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Kassad Originally by: maGz EDIT: And I agree with Traxio, let's not turn this into another Priory vs BD-thread. No more flame-posts from Priory plz! you feeling ok? MaGz gets all fluffy and friendly when we finally have a decent fight. I think he's spent, smack wise, for the next day at least couple hours tops
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:21:00 - [70] I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming ____________ The Priory Killboard
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:22:00 - [71] Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming no one is flaming yet unless you are counting your personality
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:24:00 - [72] Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming Thank you maGz. I suppose it would be going too far for you and BD to get together for a mining op?
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:25:00 - [73] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming Thank you maGz. I suppose it would be going too far for you and BD to get together for a mining op? How much would you pay for the screenies/fraps? ____________ The Priory Killboard
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:27:00 - [74] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming Thank you maGz. I suppose it would be going too far for you and BD to get together for a mining op? so this hauler popped today, and a covetor popped out, and magz was all like DONT SHOOT IT DONT SHOOT IT true story
Helplessandlost Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:28:00 - [75] Fun times again!!! Starting to like it down here... "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!" http://images.filecloud.com/283570/hal201.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:30:00 - [76] Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming Thank you maGz. I suppose it would be going too far for you and BD to get together for a mining op? so this hauler popped today, and a covetor popped out, and magz was all like DONT SHOOT IT DONT SHOOT IT true story Oh really the truth is now coming out did he start quoting mining yields per chance and how long it would take to fill a can?
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:32:00 - [77] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming Thank you maGz. I suppose it would be going too far for you and BD to get together for a mining op? so this hauler popped today, and a covetor popped out, and magz was all like DONT SHOOT IT DONT SHOOT IT true story Oh really the truth is now coming out did he start quoting mining yields per chance and how long it would take to fill a can? He's not that bad yet. When he starts quoting the mining efficiency of a mothership, not like anyone would do such a silly thing, then we know he has a problem
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:34:00 - [78] Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: maGz I'm serious though... I will pod you noobs myself if you keep flaming Thank you maGz. I suppose it would be going too far for you and BD to get together for a mining op? so this hauler popped today, and a covetor popped out, and magz was all like DONT SHOOT IT DONT SHOOT IT true story Oh really the truth is now coming out did he start quoting mining yields per chance and how long it would take to fill a can? He's not that bad yet. When he starts quoting the mining efficiency of a mothership, not like anyone would do such a silly thing, then we know he has a problem Hush little one ____________ The Priory Killboard
Szprinkoth Sponsz MC Cubed Inc	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:35:00 - [79] Well this surely is a bad time for my corp to disband and leave ISS :cry: --
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:36:00 - [80] Ho ho ho! Seems like Santa got som pretty bad ass reindeer this season! Have a good one, this looks to be massive! Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Baji Core ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:45:00 - [81] Originally by: n sx For those who are asking us to undock (particularly ISS), shut your mouths. ...etc etc... There's this new thing on the interweb called sarcasm, maybe you should google it. Nobody would undock with this many ships on their doorstep
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:48:00 - [82] Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 17/12/2006 23:48:23 I feel the urge to say a few things which must be said. One, nothing but respect and love for IAC tbh. whatever this conflict represents, its had some terrificly fun fights. I havent had this much fun in eons. Iac are certainly not afraid to fight. For every minute they have spent today docked, we have spent sitting in pos over the last couple days hiding/guerilla warfare-ing the iac/ra/goonfleet/ect blob. Two, ive seen alot of posts saying such like "IAC must be uber to warrant this response." which I respect IAC and their fighting ability, this is obviously not true. The numbers were roughly even, and perhaps tipped in your favor. Then you brought in RA/GOON, which forced LV's hand. The numbers here are not for you alone, by any stretch. Three, FFS, both sides need to lay off the smack. Come on people! the server hasnt crashed yet with over 500 in system! and while that dosent mean it wont once theres a fleet battle (i.e. when the pos come out of reinforced), its still a testament to CCP. This is arguably some of the funest (yes, not a word, I know) combat either side has seen in a long time. Many of our pilots have NEVER had this much fun in eve. Why sully a perfectly kick-butt war with needless smacktalk, local muppetry, and forum flames? Grow up, my friends. Both sides are equally guilty; both sides should curtail their wantom smackiness, and just have fun. Thanks for the fights IAC. Whatever the conflicts outcome, it was worth the trip. and that, my friends, deserves a great big appreciative BAWWWWWK! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:49:00 - [83] To be fair FPC this thread is relatively smack free compared to the others ones
Idara Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:52:00 - [84] Gawddamn! Must...get...home...to...proper...PC... Pew pew! ---
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:53:00 - [85] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 17/12/2006 23:48:23 I feel the urge to say a few things which must be said. One, nothing but respect and love for IAC tbh. whatever this conflict represents, its had some terrificly fun fights. I havent had this much fun in eons. Iac are certainly not afraid to fight. For every minute they have spent today docked, we have spent sitting in pos over the last couple days hiding/guerilla warfare-ing the iac/ra/goonfleet/ect blob. Two, ive seen alot of posts saying such like "IAC must be uber to warrant this response." which I respect IAC and their fighting ability, this is obviously not true. The numbers were roughly even, and perhaps tipped in your favor. Then you brought in RA/GOON, which forced LV's hand. The numbers here are not for you alone, by any stretch. Three, FFS, both sides need to lay off the smack. Come on people! the server hasnt crashed yet with over 500 in system! and while that dosent mean it wont once theres a fleet battle (i.e. when the pos come out of reinforced), its still a testament to CCP. This is arguably some of the funest (yes, not a word, I know) combat either side has seen in a long time. Many of our pilots have NEVER had this much fun in eve. Why sully a perfectly kick-butt war with needless smacktalk, local muppetry, and forum flames? Grow up, my friends. Both sides are equally guilty; both sides should curtail their wantom smackiness, and just have fun. Thanks for the fights IAC. Whatever the conflicts outcome, it was worth the trip. and that, my friends, deserves a great big appreciative BAWWWWWK! very well said. i personally had more fun today fighting LV then i've had in months and months...and like i said in a diff post...no smack at all \o/
MellaRinn Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:55:00 - [86] Originally by: Tovarishch If only GM Ginger would come visit to make it a real Christmas party... ZOMG! ginger Magician is a GM now, is he? PS. that was a joke, k? and seriously - I spent some good time frapsing our dreads bouncing off the titan -> 250km off lately Click
solarwinds ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:57:00 - [87] TBH, I can barely even play right now. As soon as I enter system I might as well just blow myself up, it was that bad today. 30,000 people online, 29,000 in F4R, or so it seems! At least no crashes so far. As for the smack, I've honestly had nothing but respect and humor from IAC & friends. We engage, they engage, things blow up, win, lose, or draw there are always comments to go around and it is nice to see. I think there is more smack on the forums than in game! But the south is totally ablaze, it's a hell of a sight!
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:02:00 - [88] Originally by: Seleene Pic 6 OMG is that a sword stuck in the sun? Oh and reserved...
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:24:00 - [89] Originally by: solarwinds TBH, I can barely even play right now. As soon as I enter system I might as well just blow myself up, it was that bad today. 30,000 people online, 29,000 in F4R, or so it seems! At least no crashes so far. As for the smack, I've honestly had nothing but respect and humor from IAC & friends. We engage, they engage, things blow up, win, lose, or draw there are always comments to go around and it is nice to see. I think there is more smack on the forums than in game! But the south is totally ablaze, it's a hell of a sight! I said we were going to light the south on fire... noobody listened. Its great ISS has deep pockets, although I doubt LV is being paid. So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. It is a true shame that the POS combat systems don't work with 500 people in local. Petitions are open... but I doubt the GM's can do anything since POS warfare is borked and this is an active campaign. @OP : I'd rather like a story that started before your blob, rather than after your coallition has been dealt 10+ billion isk in damages. Although good fights all around and kudos for Seleene putting his mothership on the front line. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:31:00 - [90] GF on both sides! -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:32:00 - [91] Originally by: n sx What an awesome sight, and above all kudos to CCP for not having a node crash!!! As an IAC pilot I am honoured that we receive such a welcoming commitee, its truly testimate to how seriously the rest of EVE takes IAC haha. For those who are asking us to undock (particularly ISS), shut your mouths. For anyone who has fought against IAC+Friends over the last 7 days, we've brought it in absolutely every way every time and we've never stood down. No-one has been left without a fight an it's been a HELL of alot of fun. We're not afraid to fight you its just 'not smart' to undock with 100 capitals in system, including a titan and being outnumbered 3:1 (400:1 if you count fighters hehe). Use your heads, cause we are. To all those that made today happen for ISS, congrats, its a massively impressive sight. I just don't think it's 'agressive' enough yet for a neutral alliance . Is this the first time, someone's gone red to ISS, only to have 8000 pilots worth of alliances on your back? Conspiracy at its best. Cheers for the future. Good times ahead. QFT, very nice post. Say no to blobs! Think of the poor hamsters.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:33:00 - [92] afaik this is all out of iss pockets. shareholders isk is never spent on anything but the prescribed stuff. iss does not = enron Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
shanda captison ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:36:00 - [93] Edited by: shanda captison on 18/12/2006 00:36:44 Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. I think you ll find we put up a new outpost a few weeks ago.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:42:00 - [94] Originally by: shanda captison Edited by: shanda captison on 18/12/2006 00:36:44 Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. I think you ll find we put up a new outpost a few weeks ago. i thought that it was another LV outpost. But that's getting off topic now The real fun will happen in a couple of days. Especially with the new sov rules iac isn't going to lay all it's cards down on the table till after the pos are out of reinforced.
Szprinkoth Sponsz MC Cubed Inc	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:44:00 - [95] Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. I'm actually quite pleased :D /proud ISS shareholder --
Apophis Omega Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:44:00 - [96] Originally by: ParMizaN How do you fit a titan down a chimney? Plenty of lube I bet
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:45:00 - [97] who let the dogs out Don't hate me, learn to love me
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:45:00 - [98] Originally by: Kaylana Syi I said we were going to light the south on fire... noobody listened. Its great ISS has deep pockets, although I doubt LV is being paid. So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. It is a true shame that the POS combat systems don't work with 500 people in local. Petitions are open... but I doubt the GM's can do anything since POS warfare is borked and this is an active campaign. 1) No shareholder money has been spent. This war has cost ISS very little so far. 2) POS combat systems? Petitions? I'm curious are you talking about. Everyone was able to anything, in fact it was mostly lag free with only a bit of acceptable module delay. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Aira Phlux Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:48:00 - [99] Highly entertaining thread claps All respect to IAC, but right now I'm not fancying your position. Best of luck, and ... YARRRRRR!
Taku Forge Tactical Systems	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:55:00 - [100] Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. Won't they be getting a new outpost this way as well?
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:57:00 - [101] Originally by: Ferocious FeAr who let the dogs out lol at your sig. I doubt nintendo had that in mind when they made their mario character
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:57:00 - [102] Originally by: shanda captison Edited by: shanda captison on 18/12/2006 00:36:44 Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. I think you ll find we put up a new outpost a few weeks ago. You could have had two Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:59:00 - [103] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: shanda captison Edited by: shanda captison on 18/12/2006 00:36:44 Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. I think you ll find we put up a new outpost a few weeks ago. You could have had two Sorry hun you got 3 nice ones. Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Distrans The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:00:00 - [104] Is it prohibition? Not alot of useful info there, for sure Hugh is a rich bestard.. And thanks for lagging out peacful 0.0 space far away with your parade. Good luck IAC, You will get over it, alcohol conserves and is a youth fountain
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:07:00 - [105] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Kaylana Syi I said we were going to light the south on fire... noobody listened. Its great ISS has deep pockets, although I doubt LV is being paid. So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. It is a true shame that the POS combat systems don't work with 500 people in local. Petitions are open... but I doubt the GM's can do anything since POS warfare is borked and this is an active campaign. 1) No shareholder money has been spent. This war has cost ISS very little so far. 2) POS combat systems? Petitions? I'm curious are you talking about. Everyone was able to anything, in fact it was mostly lag free with only a bit of acceptable module delay. So 10bil in damages so far cost ISS very little? 3 carrier losses? Their cargo? The mercs? The amount of fighters your alliance and allies have lost in combat? Your a blatent liar. Most of our large guns never shot a single round. Some did and some didn't. They did fire on a frigate fleet you put near our POS once about 200 people left local. So, no everyone wasn't able to do anything. Obviosly there was such strain on the server to stay alive that the POS's couldn't keep up with the numbers. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:09:00 - [106] Seleene you should ammend the thread though. Iac is definately not alone in this conflict. The war will not be quick don't kid yourselves. For even if you take the bottleshop you'll have a hell of a time keeping it. So lets cut the posting(holy crap am i really saying this) till we get some important developments
Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:09:00 - [107] As the OP states in the thread title, there are a LOT of powerful shareholders in ISS. Personally, I always knew that anyone who threatened their outposts would be bringing hell in a handbasket on their heads. Admitedly, no one knows how this will turn out, but here's to smack-free, good fights to all concerned.
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:09:00 - [108] Originally by: Distrans Is it prohibition? Not alot of useful info there, for sure Hugh is a rich bestard.. And thanks for lagging out peacful 0.0 space far away with your parade. Good luck IAC, You will get over it, alcohol conserves and is a youth fountain Dont worry, soon this will all be over and -A- can get back to mining for Thug's space-***** <3 Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:12:00 - [109] Edited by: Crozon on 18/12/2006 01:16:46 Originally by: Kaylana Syi So 10bil in damages so far cost ISS very little? 3 carrier losses? Their cargo? The mercs? The amount of fighters your alliance and allies have lost in combat? Your a blatent liar. Yep, very little. I'm guessing you don't know the amount of isk ISS has; if CCP could change outposts to cause 1000 explosive damage, I'm sure they'd start chucking them at you too! PS, it currently stands at 7.3bil to 3.9 bil. ISS have been used to a 2:1 loss ratio for a VERY long time, which means they are doing better than average against IAC!
Algey ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:13:00 - [110] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Kaylana Syi I said we were going to light the south on fire... noobody listened. Its great ISS has deep pockets, although I doubt LV is being paid. So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. It is a true shame that the POS combat systems don't work with 500 people in local. Petitions are open... but I doubt the GM's can do anything since POS warfare is borked and this is an active campaign. 1) No shareholder money has been spent. This war has cost ISS very little so far. 2) POS combat systems? Petitions? I'm curious are you talking about. Everyone was able to anything, in fact it was mostly lag free with only a bit of acceptable module delay. So 10bil in damages so far cost ISS very little? 3 carrier losses? Their cargo? The mercs? The amount of fighters your alliance and allies have lost in combat? Your a blatent liar. Most of our large guns never shot a single round. Some did and some didn't. They did fire on a frigate fleet you put near our POS once about 200 people left local. So, no everyone wasn't able to do anything. Obviosly there was such strain on the server to stay alive that the POS's couldn't keep up with the numbers. I wish people would stop saying that 10Bn is even meaningful to an alliance. I won't even argue the figures, but will just shake my head at the idea of 10Bn being a lot of isk.
Archonon Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:13:00 - [111] Originally by: Seleene As of now, the state of play is: Mercenary Coalition is contracted against IAC. Veto is contracted against IAC. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate is at war with IAC. Firmus Ixion is at war with IAC. Lotka Volterra is at war with IAC. Ushra'Khan is at war with IAC. I hope that defences of ur actual allies are strong or be ready to finish this war alone. _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat
emokarsk	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:17:00 - [112] Edited by: emokarsk on 18/12/2006 01:17:21 Originally by: Algey I wish people would stop saying that 10Bn is even meaningful to an alliance. I won't even argue the figures, but will just shake my head at the idea of 10Bn being a lot of isk. In that case, any chance you could spare me a Bn or two? edit whoopsidaisy posted with hauling alt - this is arkarsk
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:18:00 - [113] Originally by: Kaylana Syi [ So 10bil in damages so far cost ISS very little? 3 carrier losses? Their cargo? The mercs? The amount of fighters your alliance and allies have lost in combat? Your a blatent liar. I'll make it simple and keep it polite 10bn in damages... lets assume that figure is true for a moment. 10bn ISK split between 1850 members, comes out at 5.4m each. Being honest, I could afford 10bn ISK on my own if I liquidised a few assets. I don't know how much ISK loss ISS would have to take for it to hurt, but I would estimate over a trillion ISK. Perhaps when it reaches a couple of hundred billion you might start making minor inroads. Until then, you're talking pocket change. You can't win a war of attrition with the largest Industrially-based alliance in the game. It just can't work. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:21:00 - [114] butter you also can't predict what will happen. IAC are no slouches when it comes to industry. Don't go making statements about what will happen like it's fact. Lets just see where the guns take us shall we?
Dagnis The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:22:00 - [115] Edited by: Dagnis on 18/12/2006 01:22:30 Well the 10bil u all are talking about is not coming from the alliance pocket it coming from the members that gets there ship destroyed.. *Edit Cant spell
Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:26:00 - [116] Originally by: Layla Currie butter you also can't predict what will happen. IAC are no slouches when it comes to industry. Don't go making statements about what will happen like it's fact. Lets just see where the guns take us shall we? True, but it isn't him claiming 10bil will cripple an alliance like ISS, cause it won't, not by a long shot!
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:41:00 - [117] Originally by: Butter Dog 10bn in damages... lets assume that figure is true for a moment. 10bn ISK split between 1850 members, comes out at 5.4m each. If you want to count it that way I guess ASCN titan loss was nothing as well. Just 17-18m per member. Number spinning is not cool ok? ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:44:00 - [118] Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Butter Dog 10bn in damages... lets assume that figure is true for a moment. 10bn ISK split between 1850 members, comes out at 5.4m each. If you want to count it that way I guess ASCN titan loss was nothing as well. Just 17-18m per member. Number spinning is not cool ok? neither is saying 10bn isk in dmg the sky is falling the sky is falling. Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:46:00 - [119] Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. ISS are spending ISK in the defence of shareholders assets in a war started by their neighbors IAC. From having their outpost systems threatened they have turned things around and have two large POS in f4r and all eight large IAC POS are in reinforced mode in this gateway system to IAC space. Obviously it is yet to be seen if the opportunity of POS coming out of reinforced mode can be capitalised over the next few days or not and this bridgehead expanded.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:47:00 - [120] ALL THE NAUGHTY CHILDREN GET EATEN BY THE JAMESW. The ISS/MC/LV? Charcoal City. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:50:00 - [121] Originally by: Ferocious FeAr who let the dogs out one sec......phone ringing...oh it's for you....1997 wants thier lame overused song title quote back.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:51:00 - [122] I hope you guys start fielding some fleets soon, Raem. Need a little entertainment. --------
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:52:00 - [123] Originally by: The Enslaver I hope you guys start fielding some fleets soon, Raem. Need a little entertainment. Stop addressing me seriously. I'm not here for that. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Lygos Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 01:55:00 - [124] And I have to go christmas shopping tomorrow morning.. well, if the bank will give me any of my money. sob --- T2 Risk
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:03:00 - [125] The ôKitchen Sinkö war is really on. Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
Sunsets The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:08:00 - [126] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists man i wish u guys would attack us, would make up for the lack of good fights we get in our war ;) From what I've read, the BoB vs ASCN is about as much of a war as the opening of the US campaign in Iraq (or Israel's response in Lebanon) where they just proceeded to bomb the **** out of them.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:10:00 - [127] Edited by: Raem Civrie on 18/12/2006 02:12:04 Originally by: Sunsets Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists man i wish u guys would attack us, would make up for the lack of good fights we get in our war ;) From what I've read, the BoB vs ASCN is about as much of a war as the opening of the US campaign in Iraq (or Israel's response in Lebanon) where they just proceeded to bomb the **** out of them. That's because BoB rule the forums, which if I was predisposed towards bad puns I'd refer to as "Forum Superiority". You know, like "Air Superiority". I make funnies, haha. Anyway, it's not that they lie, they don't have to. But all you hear is "BoB's Side", and occasional hilariously delusional ramblings from McCreedy, so it's not really accurate. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
krissi79 FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:16:00 - [128] if iss are so rich , way do they field such a crappy team at the allience tourny
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:17:00 - [129] Edited by: Raem Civrie on 18/12/2006 02:17:42 Originally by: krissi79 if iss are so rich , way do they field such a crappy team at the allience tourny Because a) money has nothing to do with skill, and b) they presumably weren't using Shareholder money for that? (Sigh, 4 replies in one thread page. I'm off for bed) ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:22:00 - [130] ** Sorry im going to get chewed out for this but... * How did ISS like it when we attacked their POS's on the first day of the war in our "premeditated act of war with intentions of taking over multiple ISS stations" I noticed not a single shot was fired at any of your POS's ISS even though we had numerical advantage for the better part of 3 days. tinfoil had Furthermore when you act like we were so after your stations i say this: "We set you to -10" who knows what is going to happen. There may be pos shooty shooty" (MAY.. WHO KNOWS wtf is going to happen. But DUH we did not go after your POS's you instead go for sovernty in our space.. hmm advantagous huh. With the way your acting saying this is all funded by 'private investors' and the rest of ISS gets profit from it, that seems like ISS is getting a nice bouce from this war. It actually seems alot like ISS wanted this all along. Almost like they were behind the first war, 1) MC stages out of ISS space (yeah yeah 'we didnt know we are totally innocent) for like what 4 DAYS. 2) ISS attempts to stop help from comming WHEN TOLD the help is for us. (yeah yeah we will say it was some issue.) 'but we are your friends IAC good luck we are 'neutral' so stick it to them snicker' Share holders mean nothing in ISS they have NO say, its the few with the big pockets saying "Hmm i want their system because its making more money then ours. Its just business right?" Being a slave owner is 'just business'right. "im the guy in comman of ISS.. but my insanely wealthy business people are actually incharge.... Oh snap they paid the mercs to go after you but since its not 'officially paid for by ISS it doesnt count' Butterdog you can spin it all you want to. ISS is after our stations and our space, they have been before this war started. And PRIVATE investors were most likely behind the McFix war. (ohh yeah i dont have proof on that but really who needs it, its rather obvious.) Our command has stated several times that we wanted to open up the eyes of those in ISS leadership that we were NOT happy with conditions. IAC set ISS to -10 but did not engage in any attack on their capital assets. Oh got a little pew pew in your systems for a little while and.. blah blah.. so what. We ran around your systems being a pest. We are going to enjoy this fight. Seems your investors with their DEEP pockets are all about protecting their space when they are really after enlarging it. GL with your plans ISS. I am really going to enjoy seeing how this works out. You cant stop the beer and you cant keep us from making it. PS. Awsome showing of capital assets. Great time was had and much booze was consumed. Cant wait to be there for big show in a couple days. To general grunts of ISS and MC good luck much respect to all. This post is my own personal reflection on events and i am NOT an official IAC rep. Do not take what i say as anything close to official.
Blind Man Kemono.	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:23:00 - [131] talk about capital ship spam SOLO PVP SETUPZ: RAVEN/DRAKE
Ice Ghost Gallente Frontier Worlds Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:26:00 - [132] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Kaylana Syi I said we were going to light the south on fire... noobody listened. Its great ISS has deep pockets, although I doubt LV is being paid. So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks. It is a true shame that the POS combat systems don't work with 500 people in local. Petitions are open... but I doubt the GM's can do anything since POS warfare is borked and this is an active campaign. 1) No shareholder money has been spent. This war has cost ISS very little so far. 2) POS combat systems? Petitions? I'm curious are you talking about. Everyone was able to anything, in fact it was mostly lag free with only a bit of acceptable module delay. So 10bil in damages so far cost ISS very little? 3 carrier losses? Their cargo? The mercs? The amount of fighters your alliance and allies have lost in combat? Your a blatent liar. Most of our large guns never shot a single round. Some did and some didn't. They did fire on a frigate fleet you put near our POS once about 200 people left local. So, no everyone wasn't able to do anything. Obviosly there was such strain on the server to stay alive that the POS's couldn't keep up with the numbers. I'm wondering what was shooting my Dread and taking it's shield off ... another Dread? Someone already admited ISS Dreads being webbed, scrambled and shooted...( not destroyed tho... )
TGbullet Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:28:00 - [133] Nice screenies! Ops was cool to except i ran out of beer half way thru & IAC would'nt share. CCP, server held up well almost 500 in system & just slight lag. props
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:28:00 - [134] Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Butter Dog 10bn in damages... lets assume that figure is true for a moment. 10bn ISK split between 1850 members, comes out at 5.4m each. If you want to count it that way I guess ASCN titan loss was nothing as well. Just 17-18m per member. Number spinning is not cool ok? Okay, well, lets put it another way. Whatever has been blown up over the past week, has been replaced ten times over. Our incredible logistics operation, which runs 23/7, is frankly staggering in scale. Over 600 carrier jump-hauls over the last 3 days, for example. ISS are cash rich, the local markets in KDF/ZX have never been better stocked with T2 ships and mods (with about 55bn ISK of items still to come), we have plenty of spare ships, production lines are healthy, we're overflowing with fuel, and to be honest it all looks very rosy from where I'm sitting. If anyone thinks 10bn ISK of insured T1 ship losses is going to even make us flinch, you're just mistaken, and thats all there is too it. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Trinity Faetal Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:31:00 - [135] Seleene > SirMolle, 135 vs 110 -- join channel Dope Dealerz if you wanna sell or can supply drugs on a regular basis.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:33:00 - [136] Originally by: Ice Ghost Originally by: Kaylana Syi Most of our large guns never shot a single round. Some did and some didn't. They did fire on a frigate fleet you put near our POS once about 200 people left local. So, no everyone wasn't able to do anything. Obviosly there was such strain on the server to stay alive that the POS's couldn't keep up with the numbers. I'm wondering what was shooting my Dread and taking it's shield off ... another Dread? Someone already admited ISS Dreads being webbed, scrambled and shooted...( not destroyed tho... ) Yes, I just want to back you up there. All guns were working. I definately took plenty of hits from each POS, and have logs to prove it, but with over 30 dreads sharing the gun cycles I didnt need to rep even once. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Ace101 Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:40:00 - [137] Originally by: Baji Core Good luck with that IAC And please come out and play, I'm quite bored! LOL! ISS wants IAC to come and shoot them?!?!? /me points at all the mercs crowding the system
Reknaw A'ru Minmatar 11th Hussars	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:41:00 - [138] So who will be going to the party when the POSes come out of reinforced?
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:44:00 - [139] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 18/12/2006 02:45:46 The POS guns were working just fine. Your "death stars" aren't set up to even dent a single dread though, my Rev was taking fire from one of the large towers for quite a few minutes and out of siege I was easily tanking it on boosting one rep every once in a while. Got to love being "last out" :) Also, someone might want to go over the settings on some towers, they behaved normally if they have certain settings, which probably means someone just configured them wrongly. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 02:57:00 - [140] Edited by: nickky01 on 18/12/2006 03:00:44 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 18/12/2006 02:45:46 The POS guns were working just fine. Your "death stars" aren't set up to even dent a single dread though, my Rev was taking fire from one of the large towers for quite a few minutes and out of siege I was easily tanking it on boosting one rep every once in a while. Got to love being "last out" :) Also, someone might want to go over the settings on some towers, they behaved normally if they have certain settings, which probably means someone just configured them wrongly. :) i apologize for not knowing much about dreads as i can not fly them...but with the hit point boost, and the way POS guns cycle isn't it almost impossible for a POS to put a real "hurt" on any single dread (obviously a lone dread attacking a POS will, but when you have 10-20 for the guns to cycle through) i think i also remember seleen making a post asking for POS's to be harder to siege, but i cba to go through to forums looking for it...not trying to flame you in any way, just a curious question about the kinds of damage a dread fleet will take from POS guns. edit* ahh "last out"...lightbulb just went off...i assume thats what you were talking about then?
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:12:00 - [141] Impressive. Question is if damage dealt will outweigh the fuel cost. Looks like ISS is getting a roaming foe with nothing to lose. Join Star Fraction. Be yourself.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:23:00 - [142] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 18/12/2006 03:24:40 Originally by: Tecam Hund Looks like ISS is getting a roaming foe with nothing to lose. It looks like it. Of course RedSwarm Federation could come to their rescue. They COULD view it as a small ally who starts a war and gets totally out of their depth, so that's not certain. The questions I am asking are: Will IAC base out of Curse trying to get revenge for a month or so as their alliance downsizes? or Will they go straight for the new territories, sponsored by RedSwarm Federation, and try to start afresh? and Will ISS run the stations themsleves and ipo them, or try to find a third party to take them over? Myn
Adam Weishaupt Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:24:00 - [143] Ah, I love the forums. Someone sets someone negative, and then someone shoots someone, allies with someone someone else doesn't like, and war is declared. Then the whining and *****ing starts, because everyone has different expectations from a war in EVE. There are different ways to approach war, even in a game. One can approach it looking for a challenge, for a even-planed contest of skill, as a meaningless diversion from boredom, or as an objective-based enterprise. Our employer, ISS, is clearly an organized, objective-driven organization that, at least from a management/profit perspective, doesn't give two whits about a fair fight and just wants to secure its outposts. So cometh the horde. And apparently there are many good reasons for all these non-contracted people to want to shoot IAC. Yay? As several IAC members have said, all that matters at the end of the day are results. We'll either get them or we won't. And then BD and Magz wil argue about the result anyway, so...let's just play.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:28:00 - [144] Originally by: Reknaw A'ru So who will be going to the party when the POSes come out of reinforced? There will be 1,000 players and God shall look down from above and say " OH hell NO" and hit the node crash button. Oh and LV you will never kill my stabbed crow! ever!!!!!!!! --------------------------------------------
Alexandra ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:32:00 - [145] God, Loxyrider better be making a movie out of this. Heck, at least give us a trailer! Keep getting those Fraps Seleene! ------------------------------------------------- ISSN: When Diplomacy Fails...
Quutar Caldari Auraxian Irregulars	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:34:00 - [146] so MC has a titan (it is in the screen shots) Not finding research slots in Empire Space? Try Quutar Research Services.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:35:00 - [147] Originally by: Quutar so MC has a titan (it is in the screen shots) LV --------------------------------------------
Voltron Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.18 03:44:00 - [148] This gang bang definately deserves a golf clap. Volt It's great touching your own dink isn't it?
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.12.18 04:15:00 - [149] Edited by: Kyguard on 18/12/2006 04:15:23 Good luck ISS I think you're gonna need it when Raem sets Jamesw on yo ass -
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 04:37:00 - [150] Edited by: Ferocious FeAr on 18/12/2006 04:38:22 Originally by: Marovinchian Originally by: Ferocious FeAr who let the dogs out one sec......phone ringing...oh it's for you....1997 wants thier lame overused song title quote back. <Insert witty rebuttal> EDIT Ah apparently my forum warrior ability is only at level 1. Don't hate me, learn to love me
Ovale KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.18 05:04:00 - [151] Edited by: Ovale on 18/12/2006 05:06:40 Good fights were had by all today. The density of ships was so high that some scrapes were had just trying to get into the parking lot. Many thanks to our new campaign allies for the patience and cooperation today. It's been a wild ride so far. We've had lots of opportunities to see and try different strategies. I've learned a lot. Thanks IAC for being a great adversary. Tomorrow we will mix it up again. So far, the max in system that I have seen was 484. I'm expecting over 500 tomorrow. Yeah Foo, that is some Crow you have. I wondered a couple of times if you would actually be able to decloak me by hitting me blindly. You look like a mosquito on a warm summer night. Of course, I also thought about the vomit comet. I'm glad I wasn't in the ship with you! edited because the word sensor misunderstood me
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.18 05:12:00 - [152] I just have to ask: With all the ships getting popped, what sort of Salvage are you guys getting? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.12.18 05:18:00 - [153] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia I just have to ask: With all the ships getting popped, what sort of Salvage are you guys getting? With 50 MC pilots at Salvage lv 5, 0.239303400123143 rig(s) were made. -
Speng Angel's of Redemption	Posted - 2006.12.18 09:22:00 - [154] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Will IAC base out of Curse trying to get revenge for a month or so A month? More like for-frickin-ever...
IntegralHellsing Gallente The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.18 09:25:00 - [155] Not too many carriers... but quite many! I guess the wrath of shareholders hired those mercs against IAC! ps. wonder what would happen to IAC with that many going against them. ------------------------------
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.18 09:33:00 - [156] Scalding Pass campagne its near a end... But Now the Providence battle begin ! Long live to the RedswarM and our ally of Iac....eternal war to our ennemy! YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR The southern coalition its near their end, dont give up folks! 07
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:10:00 - [157] Originally by: The Enslaver I hope you guys start fielding some fleets soon, Raem. Need a little entertainment. So, why didn't you help -V- out like this? How many days notice did you need before you came to ISS's defense? Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:19:00 - [158] I find it a tiny bit funy how LV are helping out against an allready outnumbered foe. Just wondering why you guys aren't trying to take back the stations redswarm took over on the otherside? Theres two possible ideas I get in my head, first being yous want proper fights? (never fought redswarn so I can't say how they fight) or yous want help against redswarm after yous are finished with IAC? Anyway sounds like a hell of alot of fun! Keep having fun! High-Sec/0.0 PvP Recruitment
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:29:00 - [159] Originally by: Apophis Omega Originally by: ParMizaN How do you fit a titan down a chimney? Plenty of lube I bet ask WRWR he'll give you some tips. Erm concerning the post. I feel happy if you all feel happy. The problem is while you peeps have fun with 500ppl in a system from 5 different alliances, we are struggling to activate our modules (5min delay) in Impass while having 100 people in system from the same alliance. So what? Do we also need to come down to experience the game without lag? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Mihae Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:38:00 - [160] Go IAC / SoD It's a Kitty ffs!
herasin	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:44:00 - [161] Edited by: herasin on 18/12/2006 10:45:10 im not gonna read all this thread cus as usual its full of the mc/iss/ and the rest of the muppets beatin their puny chests as far as im concerned you all a bunch a wusses i came to f4r to help iac, on saturday what happened ..well despite being outnumbered we still managed to keep mc and muppets from engaging us how you ask cus mc are scared of oss simple!! in fact they scared of just our FC he sat at a planet all by himself cus he got fed up with mc smackin and as usual doin nowt of course did any mc come to take him on nooooo MC go crawl back in the corner of the galaxy you came from and play with your little d*** er ships
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:46:00 - [162] Oh dear. LV Focusing on IAC instead of RAGOONTCF?
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:54:00 - [163] Originally by: Fred0 Oh dear. LV Focusing on IAC instead of RAGOONTCF? Razor still focusing on drone npcs and making as many naps as possible? Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:59:00 - [164] Originally by: Butter Dog You can't win a war of attrition with the largest Industrially-based alliance in the game. It just can't work. Lmao, do you have any idea whatsoever about EVE warfare. ISS would go down like a sack of **** quicker than quick and more and more are getting tempted to accomplish that now tbh. IAC put themselves in this mess no doubt. But also do not doubt that IAC will be here long after your mercenaries and LV have left and then the world of pain will start to head for ISS. Are you missing out on what's happening between BOB and ASCN btw when it comes to logistics and industrial based alliances?
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:01:00 - [165] Edited by: Fred0 on 18/12/2006 11:02:45 Originally by: nickycakes Razor still focusing on drone npcs and making as many naps as possible? Less naps than you but the difference is when we nap someone we actually help them. We don't start fights and let our friends die fighting our wars. I don't dress well in Tin foil but it looks like you are ******* it all up so that you can wander off doing an ATUK. Wouldn't surprise me the least tbh.
herasin White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:04:00 - [166] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 18/12/2006 11:02:45 Originally by: nickycakes Razor still focusing on drone npcs and making as many naps as possible? Less naps than you but the difference is when we nap someone we actually help them. We don't start fights and let our friends die fighting our wars. I don't dress well in Tin foil but it looks like you are ******* it all up so that you can wander off doing an ATUK. Wouldn't surprise me the least tbh. /signed
King Dave Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:09:00 - [167] Edited by: King Dave on 18/12/2006 11:09:51 Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 18/12/2006 11:02:45 Originally by: nickycakes Razor still focusing on drone npcs and making as many naps as possible? Less naps than you but the difference is when we nap someone we actually help them. We don't start fights and let our friends die fighting our wars. I don't dress well in Tin foil but it looks like you are ******* it all up so that you can wander off doing an ATUK. Wouldn't surprise me the least tbh. :) We fought with V for a year and still are, and you consider it not helping, well Stupid newbie... ------------------------------- don't speak english... f1, f2, alt-q!
Caleb Paine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:27:00 - [168] Much <3 to the banter in local -------------------------------- ISS Navy Task Force; Protecting your interest.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:28:00 - [169] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Apophis Omega Originally by: ParMizaN How do you fit a titan down a chimney? Plenty of lube I bet ask WRWR he'll give you some tips. Erm concerning the post. I feel happy if you all feel happy. The problem is while you peeps have fun with 500ppl in a system from 5 different alliances, we are struggling to activate our modules (5min delay) in Impass while having 100 people in system from the same alliance. So what? Do we also need to come down to experience the game without lag? Tell CCP to move you off our node -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (Temporarily down)
Avarielle	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:29:00 - [170] Ah... I remember -V- ... energetic chaps if I remember correctly... I wonder what ever happened to them...
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:39:00 - [171] Merry Xmas to all, I feel honored that so many fine pvp outfits are going to be fighting us, but couldn't you like, take it in turns in something? /me afk playing soldat! ______________________________________
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:42:00 - [172] Originally by: Kaylana Syi So, why didn't you help -V- out like this? How many days notice did you need before you came to ISS's defense? We did help V like this. Almost daily. How many days notice? Less than one. Contrary to popular belief, when we have worthwhile allies we look after them. V and LV have been working together for a common goal for a long time, and we always supported them, and vice versa. You won't find any V members claiming any different to that, either. ISS is another ally of ours who we have worked with a lot, who have a lot of our respect. We defend people we like, and have a good relationship with. KOS just swapped sides when they found it tricky. Nothing to do with 'lack of support'. ERA just sat back demanding reinforcements, demanding more isk, demanding for us to provide them financially what they need. We don't do demands or leaders who run around throwing fits. Nope, we didn't support them. Their own damned fault. If SUAS (/ebay bought name: KIATolon) had acted in a reasonable way, they would have had what they needed. Of course, most people don't see the reality of some situations. In short, these allegations of us not supporting our friends are completely ludicrous. Ask V, ask ISS. We always do whatever we can to help, and nothing less. End of story. --------
herasin White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:46:00 - [173] Edited by: herasin on 18/12/2006 11:48:23 Edited by: herasin on 18/12/2006 11:47:51 Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Kaylana Syi So, why didn't you help -V- out like this? How many days notice did you need before you came to ISS's defense? We did help V like this. Almost daily. How many days notice? Less than one. Contrary to popular belief, when we have worthwhile allies we look after them. V and LV have been working together for a common goal for a long time, and we always supported them, and vice versa. You won't find any V members claiming any different to that, either. ISS is another ally of ours who we have worked with a lot, who have a lot of our respect. We defend people we like, and have a good relationship with. KOS just swapped sides when they found it tricky. Nothing to do with 'lack of support'. ERA just sat back demanding reinforcements, demanding more isk, demanding for us to provide them financially what they need. We don't do demands or leaders who run around throwing fits. Nope, we didn't support them. Their own damned fault. If SUAS (/ebay bought name: KIATolon) had acted in a reasonable way, they would have had what they needed. Of course, most people don't see the reality of some situations. In short, these allegations of us not supporting our friends are completely ludicrous. Ask V, ask ISS. We always do whatever we can to help, and nothing less. End of story. you keep beating the same drum LV YAWN but we know the truth dont we oh and ye say ask V ask ISS....people take note how that list is getting shorter
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:53:00 - [174] Originally by: herasin you keep beating the same drum LV YAWN but we know the truth dont we oh and ye say ask V ask ISS....people take note how that list is getting shorter I think you will find that I adressed the points of the two other alliances that were on that list. --------
Francis Verdictio BGG	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:53:00 - [175] And I was wondering why the peaceful North was laggy last night... That explains it, all the hamsters were working hard on your battles. I wish you all good fights and happy holidays!
herasin White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:56:00 - [176] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: herasin you keep beating the same drum LV YAWN but we know the truth dont we oh and ye say ask V ask ISS....people take note how that list is getting shorter I think you will find that I adressed the points of the two other alliances that were on that list. fact remains its still getting shorter smart A**
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 11:58:00 - [177] Edited by: Butter Dog on 18/12/2006 11:58:57 Originally by: Kaeten I find it a tiny bit funy how LV are helping out against an allready outnumbered foe. Just wondering why you guys aren't trying to take back the stations redswarm took over on the otherside? Theres two possible ideas I get in my head, first being yous want proper fights? (never fought redswarn so I can't say how they fight) or yous want help against redswarm after yous are finished with IAC? Anyway sounds like a hell of alot of fun! Keep having fun! I suppose if I was to make a wild guess as to why LV were helping out, I'd say; * They don't like IAC * They do like ISS * Many of their members are major ISS shareholders * They transact a lot of business with ISS ISK talks. Unfortunately so does Tyraxx, which from IAC's point of view aint good as I believe he has been somewhat rude to key LV directors in the past ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Halafian The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:01:00 - [178] Edited by: Halafian on 18/12/2006 12:15:37 I've always had a lot of respect for IAC (which is one reason why this war is disappointing in a lot of ways, though fun in others). It's certainly been a spectacle in F4. As a token of my appreciation for IAC, I'm buying all the spirits I see in the Bottleshop, and relisting them for .01 isk. Drinks are on me! I was going to bring more drinks to The Bottleshop, but there don't seem to be any had left in Catch. I blame Parmizan, who ended up singing in TS.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:01:00 - [179] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Butter Dog You can't win a war of attrition with the largest Industrially-based alliance in the game. It just can't work. IAC put themselves in this mess no doubt. But also do not doubt that IAC will be here long after your mercenaries and LV have left and then the world of pain will start to head for ISS. I don't think a roaming industrial alliance is really going to be that much of a threat to shareholder assets. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:15:00 - [180] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Kaylana Syi So, why didn't you help -V- out like this? How many days notice did you need before you came to ISS's defense? We did help V like this. Almost daily. How many days notice? Less than one. Contrary to popular belief, when we have worthwhile allies we look after them. V and LV have been working together for a common goal for a long time, and we always supported them, and vice versa. You won't find any V members claiming any different to that, either. ISS is another ally of ours who we have worked with a lot, who have a lot of our respect. We defend people we like, and have a good relationship with. KOS just swapped sides when they found it tricky. Nothing to do with 'lack of support'. ERA just sat back demanding reinforcements, demanding more isk, demanding for us to provide them financially what they need. We don't do demands or leaders who run around throwing fits. Nope, we didn't support them. Their own damned fault. If SUAS (/ebay bought name: KIATolon) had acted in a reasonable way, they would have had what they needed. Of course, most people don't see the reality of some situations. In short, these allegations of us not supporting our friends are completely ludicrous. Ask V, ask ISS. We always do whatever we can to help, and nothing less. End of story. So what you are are saying is that a) ISS isn't politically neutral and b) everyone you've helped are crybabies because they coudln't get with your game plan. I really wouldn't want to be on your team. And from what I hear from -V- ( don't think we aren't talking to them ) they aren't too happy about you showing up on 1 days notice to help out ISS after loosing nearly everthing you've touched in Scalding Pass. I really find it hard to believe you put this kind of effort into fighting RAgoons. Especially after fighting you guys in SP personally. Your relationship with ISS is being aired in the public grand arena that is EVE. If you weren't so deeply tied with ISS you'd still be fighting your wars with RA with that spiffy titan of yours. But we know you want a foothold in catch next to tenerifis, which F4 is. We know you want to be able to move down the pipe. We know ISS has been your puppet using the market to provoke a war with IAC so your plans can come to fruition. Welcome to the party, we were waiting when you'd show up. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:23:00 - [181] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Butter Dog You can't win a war of attrition with the largest Industrially-based alliance in the game. It just can't work. IAC put themselves in this mess no doubt. But also do not doubt that IAC will be here long after your mercenaries and LV have left and then the world of pain will start to head for ISS. I don't think a roaming industrial alliance is really going to be that much of a threat to shareholder assets. Why so arrogant? I honestly don't think you've seen half of what IAC can do yet, so to claim victory already seems extremely arrogant to me... ____________ The Priory Killboard
Jurushy SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:26:00 - [182] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Welcome to Hel well thats a nice hint i could see 2 HEL motherships at the pic who build them? and could i buy a BPC ------ REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD Old Klingon proverb by Khaless the unforgettable.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:32:00 - [183] Originally by: Kaylana Syi So what you are are saying is that a) ISS isn't politically neutral LV do consider ISS allies, interpret that how you will. We have vested interests financially both as an alliance and individual members in ISS's success. Quote: b) everyone you've helped are crybabies because they coudln't get with your game plan. Where did I say that? Us and V have disagreed about how best to do certain things before, sometimes we did as they wanted, sometimes the other. The other alliances I mentioned just believed in it being a take-take relationship, where we had to give them everything and do everything for them, with nothing of substance in return. I don't think anyone can blame us for not instantly putting all of our assets on the line for such people. Quote: I really wouldn't want to be on your team. And from what I hear from -V- ( don't think we aren't talking to them ) they aren't too happy about you showing up on 1 days notice to help out ISS after loosing nearly everthing you've touched in Scalding Pass.p LOL, we talk to V also, believe it or not, and when we consistently had three times their numbers supporting them do what they wanted, I've only heard positive things from them. I'm sorry to hear you aren't getting the full story. At all. Quote: I really find it hard to believe you put this kind of effort into fighting RAgoons. Especially after fighting you guys in SP personally. Your relationship with ISS is being aired in the public grand arena that is EVE. If you weren't so deeply tied with ISS you'd still be fighting your wars with RA with that spiffy titan of yours. I'm sure it is well known how hard we were fighting them. With the titan. 217 kills wasn't it? I wouldn't remember, would I... Quote: But we know you want a foothold in catch next to tenerifis, which F4 is. We know you want to be able to move down the pipe. We know ISS has been your puppet using the market to provoke a war with IAC so your plans can come to fruition. Welcome to the party, we were waiting when you'd show up. 1) We don't use catch to go to/from empire at all. Actually, come to mention it, with our logistical abilities we don't actually even need gates. 2) We don't want catch. Why the hell would we want catch. Way too far from our core space to viably control it. 3) ISS a puppet? You are obviously deluded! On a final note, I seem to recall The Nest applying for LV but being rejected, shortly before joining IAC. How did such a rejection make you feel? --------
joefishy S.A.S	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:42:00 - [184] there isnt alot of capitals there :\| i think my alt has more capitals :P lol poor IAC, i hope you slaughter mc and co tho :) iam bigging up iac :) SAS - The un-official isk sink of the game. my last vid
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:43:00 - [185] Originally by: maGz Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Butter Dog You can't win a war of attrition with the largest Industrially-based alliance in the game. It just can't work. IAC put themselves in this mess no doubt. But also do not doubt that IAC will be here long after your mercenaries and LV have left and then the world of pain will start to head for ISS. I don't think a roaming industrial alliance is really going to be that much of a threat to shareholder assets. Why so arrogant? I honestly don't think you've seen half of what IAC can do yet, so to claim victory already seems extremely arrogant to me... Claiming victory is one thing, but seeing that there's only one possible outcome to this war is pretty obvious. THere's too many people, and isk backing ISS to do anything meaningfull against them unless you're one of the big boys ( and they don't have a reason to do so ) so.... Just a honest investors opinion ofcourse. ;-D
munchy Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.12.18 12:56:00 - [186] dammit, who let ens out of his probed out ss!!! --- Originally by: Kaaii (UCC) We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark. oh sig, please come back to me =(
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 13:03:00 - [187] Funny... people wrote us off last contract as well....
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 13:04:00 - [188] Originally by: maGz Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think a roaming industrial alliance is really going to be that much of a threat to shareholder assets. Why so arrogant? I honestly don't think you've seen half of what IAC can do yet, so to claim victory already seems extremely arrogant to me... There is no arrogance, I was merely hypothesising. If you'd like a definition of arrogant, see Tyraxx. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 13:07:00 - [189] Originally by: Bacilius Funny... people wrote us off last contract as well.... Then the people paying MC stopped doing so, and they left. --------
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 13:13:00 - [190] Yeah... just 'disappeared'. I believe Seleene don't get me wrong, it just sounds like a familiar tactic to those lucky enough to have been a part of your coalition eh? Enslaver? Now where did he go...
corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.18 14:08:00 - [191] Just go's to show you never know who is a shareholder in ISS..I never thought I would ever see FIX and Shinra in the same area for more than 5 mins without them shooting each other Bet half the shinra guys are thinking the exact same thing, all I can say is win lose or draw this will be a hel of a campaign and I am so happy to be back to eve to participate. " Stay Frosty "
Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 14:14:00 - [192] Originally by: corporal hicks Just go's to show you never know who is a shareholder in ISS..I never thought I would ever see FIX and Shinra in the same area for more than 5 mins without them shooting each other Bet half the shinra guys are thinking the exact same thing, all I can say is win lose or draw this will be a hel of a campaign and I am so happy to be back to eve to participate.
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 14:27:00 - [193] Edited by: Cabadrin on 18/12/2006 14:27:20 Originally by: herasin Edited by: herasin on 18/12/2006 10:45:10 im not gonna read all this thread cus as usual its full of the mc/iss/ and the rest of the muppets beatin their puny chests as far as im concerned you all a bunch a wusses i came to f4r to help iac, on saturday what happened ..well despite being outnumbered we still managed to keep mc and muppets from engaging us how you ask cus mc are scared of oss simple!! in fact they scared of just our FC he sat at a planet all by himself cus he got fed up with mc smackin and as usual doin nowt of course did any mc come to take him on nooooo MC go crawl back in the corner of the galaxy you came from and play with your little d*** er ships TBH mate, OSS+IAC had us outnumbered that night and I saw no reason to engage you when there was another hostile 100-person group on the zxic gate. We're glad you've come to see one of the most interesting fights in a while, and we hope you have a good time. If I can address the "smack," by far the chat I've seen has been either civil or humorous. We respect IAC, ISS, LV, and all the other combatants in F4R. _______________________________________________
Coug Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 14:28:00 - [194] Originally by: corporal hicks Just go's to show you never know who is a shareholder in ISS..I never thought I would ever see FIX and Shinra in the same area for more than 5 mins without them shooting each other Bet half the shinra guys are thinking the exact same thing, all I can say is win lose or draw this will be a hel of a campaign and I am so happy to be back to eve to participate. I believe The Enslavers quote on TS last night was something along the lines of, "Yesterday I would have never guessed that today I would be warping into this many FIX Dreads and not using my super weapon." We had a good laugh at that ----------------- ~C~
chromer one FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 14:32:00 - [195] it is funny that if you fly with the ally whos in the war, you might get some trouble... some times if the enemy is quite big.. the trouble can be at same scale.
Raste Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 14:40:00 - [196] Originally by: Layla Currie words Post with your main, Murukan. ===This is a sig=== "no matter where you are or what you're doing, you know that down in the southeast, LV and RA are trying to stab each other in the face." -- Cadiz ===================
Mortin Skeer Hegemonic Core Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:23:00 - [197] Originally by: Raste Post with your main, Murukan. Post with your head from out of your arse, you bloody trolling*****block.
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:28:00 - [198] wow its like christmas but everyone will be dieing http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/niroshido/whereeverilandcopy-1.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:37:00 - [199] Just keep driving them into empire Sel, we'll be circling in the shallows waiting.... KIA EVE Home
Raste Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:40:00 - [200] Originally by: Mortin Skeer Originally by: Raste Post with your main, Murukan. Post with your head from out of your arse, you bloody trolling*****block. Mortin Skeer Hegemonic Core Distant Star Alliance Interesting. Anyway, being personally involved in the conflict being discussed, this is an interesting topic for me. I know whose alt that is and don't really consider asking him to post with his main trolling. Sorry if you do. Hope you are enjoying OMist. ===This is a sig=== "no matter where you are or what you're doing, you know that down in the southeast, LV and RA are trying to stab each other in the face." -- Cadiz ===================
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:48:00 - [201] Edited by: The Enslaver on 18/12/2006 16:48:05 Mortin Skeer Hegemonic Core Distant Star Alliance Oh dear. --------
Buxaroo Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:21:00 - [202] Originally by: The Enslaver Edited by: The Enslaver on 18/12/2006 16:48:05 Mortin Skeer Hegemonic Core Distant Star Alliance Oh dear. Ouch, wonder who's gonna get a "KTHXBYE" boot from omist OT: that's one hell of an impressive show of cap ships that I have ever seen. Seleene, I am waiting on the future AAR from you If anything needs an AAR, its this war methinks.
axels2000 Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:29:00 - [203] Originally by: corporal hicks Bet half the shinra guys are thinking the exact same thing, all I can say is win lose or draw this will be a hel of a campaign and I am so happy to be back to eve to participate. Holy cow Hicks. Is it really you? Good seeing you back. And by the way, you guys are causing bad things to ASCN, inadvertantly as it may be. The lag hit Paragon Soul just exactly the moment when our gang jumped through the gate and activated guns on ASCN's gang. Then we were staring on flash back of test server experience where things sort of move but nothing happens. Next thing we see field full of red eggs. It was alive just long enough to hot modules and start Ctrl-clicking them. Then another minute comes and local is surprizingly friendly. Was not the most intense "fight" by any means, but sort of funny.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:38:00 - [204] I love how one of the largest carebear alliances in the game is talking up a storm because they have the magical ability to spend lots of money in order to get other people to fight their wars. ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:53:00 - [205] Hey MC peeps, tell War Bear "Miss Deaf Texas" I 100% guarantee he'll get a good laugh. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:57:00 - [206] Originally by: Raste Originally by: Layla Currie words Post with your main, Murukan. Raste if you want to troll this thread atleast respond to a post in which i was flaming like an asshat which i have not in this thread so kindly bugger off. Now that i'm back in action flex i would just like to say cut the bs and chest thumping. LV and co fielded a nice fleet yes. However if you think the sparse resistence you had putting the pos into reinforced is going to be the same when they come out that's just being foolish. LV you guys have fought a pos war for quite awhile so you guys should know better than anyone else that putting the pos into reinforced isn't victory. All this theorycrafting about what iac will do after the war is silly. You guys have not won, this war will not be finished this week, nor for awhile i bet. So cut the stupid bullcrap and just get back to fighting. Butter you spout off about how iac is as good as dead and they should just crawl back to empire. You make yourself look like such an idiot Even if IAC do lose their stations, you then have not only us 4 jumps over in curse, but another 1k+ angry iac pilots who will be camping your stations to kingdom come until they can take theirs back. So i suggest everyone just zip it up and fight. Leave the boasting to when something significant actually happens, not for something as trivial as putting pos into reinforced. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.18 18:18:00 - [207] Edited by: insanebe on 18/12/2006 18:18:41 i don't think its over yet either ... this could be a really huge stress test if RAGOONs and all the rest get down there fully ....hope the Devs are watching cos the way both sides are talking might be one of the biggest battles in eve knowledge is power.... guard it well
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 18:22:00 - [208] Originally by: Murukan [ LV and co fielded a nice fleet yes. However if you think the sparse resistence you had putting the pos into reinforced is going to be the same when they come out that's just being foolish. LV you guys have fought a pos war for quite awhile so you guys should know better than anyone else that putting the pos into reinforced isn't victory. On the contrary, we wanted a nice fleet to come back at us. Shooting POS is boring in a safe environment. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 19:30:00 - [209] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Murukan [ LV and co fielded a nice fleet yes. However if you think the sparse resistence you had putting the pos into reinforced is going to be the same when they come out that's just being foolish. LV you guys have fought a pos war for quite awhile so you guys should know better than anyone else that putting the pos into reinforced isn't victory. On the contrary, we wanted a nice fleet to come back at us. Shooting POS is boring in a safe environment. Let me get this straight - you field a huge blob, ****loads of cap ships, make sure noone can leave nor undock, then say you wanted a fight? ____________ The Priory Killboard
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 19:48:00 - [210] Edited by: Raid on 18/12/2006 19:48:15 Originally by: Murukan So i suggest everyone just zip it up and fight. Leave the boasting to when something significant actually happens, not for something as trivial as putting pos into reinforced. You dont consider the largest capital ship deployment in eve history a significant event? Theres between 600 and 800 fighters ready to launch.. therse a doomsday device waiting to be fired and theres 30+ dreadnaughts from 6 Corps or Alliances ready to roll... If thats nto significant I dont know what is.
Laboratus Gallente BGG	Posted - 2006.12.18 19:53:00 - [211] When can we expect a campaign vid to be released? ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Meoshi Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:07:00 - [212] I'd hope he launches doomsday while parked next to the dreads and carriers....all I'm asking for xmas....
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:08:00 - [213] Originally by: Meoshi I'd hope he launches doomsday while parked next to the dreads and carriers....all I'm asking for xmas.... ignore my alt...friggin tard doesn't know when to shut up....
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:10:00 - [214] Edited by: patteSatan on 18/12/2006 20:11:04 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Murukan [ LV and co fielded a nice fleet yes. However if you think the sparse resistence you had putting the pos into reinforced is going to be the same when they come out that's just being foolish. LV you guys have fought a pos war for quite awhile so you guys should know better than anyone else that putting the pos into reinforced isn't victory. On the contrary, we wanted a nice fleet to come back at us. Shooting POS is boring in a safe environment. No Butter Dog, YOU are boring.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:23:00 - [215] Originally by: Meoshi I'd hope he launches doomsday while parked next to the dreads and carriers....all I'm asking for xmas.... A doomsay will not do significant damage to capital ships.
MacDuncan Minmatar Unknown Society	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:43:00 - [216] Edited by: MacDuncan on 18/12/2006 20:44:44 Originally by: Raid Originally by: Meoshi I'd hope he launches doomsday while parked next to the dreads and carriers....all I'm asking for xmas.... A doomsay will not do significant damage to capital ships. But....a bit of dmg to the 400-600 fighters i guess... Edit: Just think of it: "blahblah....ooops, wrong clicky, sry....." -- Might As well Train Another Race
Bluebear8 Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:55:00 - [217] Is there any truth to the rumor that ISS just hired BoB, AXE, AAA, RA, GOONS, MYRIAD, V, ASCN and a 15 Northern Alliances to come celebrate the Blue Screen of Christmas with IAC? Or, perhaps it was just a contract offer not yet accepted? Someone told me this next ISS OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN would be conditioned upon SEC approval for publication of the next ISS prospectus and stock issue that is going to be released to the public in January of 2007. Happy Holidays! Cheers to the Overlords of Overkill. (Does anyone else find ISS a bit "offensive", yet? heh ... their actions speak a LOT louder than BD's werds.)
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:22:00 - [218] Originally by: Bluebear8 Is there any truth to the rumor that ISS just hired BoB, AXE, AAA, RA, GOONS, MYRIAD, V, ASCN and a 15 Northern Alliances to come celebrate the Blue Screen of Christmas with IAC? Or, perhaps it was just a contract offer not yet accepted? Someone told me this next ISS OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN would be conditioned upon SEC approval for publication of the next ISS prospectus and stock issue that is going to be released to the public in January of 2007. Happy Holidays! Cheers to the Overlords of Overkill. (Does anyone else find ISS a bit "offensive", yet? heh ... their actions speak a LOT louder than BD's werds.) Interesting that you blame ISS for what you now face. On the contrary, Count publically stated that we did not want war. He started a thread before IAC declared hostilities, which you can see in the Corporations and Alliance forum. ISS very clearly stated a wish for continued friendly relations with IAC. However, IAC leadership took it upon themselves to take your alliance into war, despite the wish of ISS for peaceful relations. When asked to clarify war intentions, IAC stated POS shooting was not out the question. You left ISS no choice. The response to the mistakes your leadership has made is now clear. By posing a direct threat to the assets of ISS Shareholders, IAC leadership have united many against them. So, if you are looking for someone to blame, look no further than the top of your alliances org chart. Your leadership has much to answer to their member base for what they have brought on you. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:31:00 - [219] Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. The truth will set you free
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:33:00 - [220] Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think a roaming industrial alliance is really going to be that much of a threat to shareholder assets. In comparison with the threat your mouth is to ones assets, id have to agree. Once in a while you just need to zip it. You make issn look like bumbling fools. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:33:00 - [221] Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though Manlove by Zaphod Jones
protesterofkick	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:44:00 - [222] YAR look at my pretty dread blowing there towers up :)
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:50:00 - [223] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though i know, i thought ISS had some kidna rule against posting on the forums...i mean if BD is allowed to do, why dont the other ISS?
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:19:00 - [224] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though The good: now we can all shoot him The bad: he's still posting, despite his promise that he would stop once he rejoined (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
Fighterchiq	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:52:00 - [225] Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though i know, i thought ISS had some kidna rule against posting on the forums...i mean if BD is allowed to do, why dont the other ISS? Because he makes us laugh :) Butter Dog is the BOB of ISS
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:53:00 - [226] Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. Why would I want to miss this one fun fun fun! ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
VekkTor Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:53:00 - [227] Edited by: VekkTor on 18/12/2006 22:58:02 Edited by: VekkTor on 18/12/2006 22:55:47 the real pew pew is gonna start in some hours :D too bad its not during my playing time just wanted to say have fun everybody, those things are what's really worth playing^^
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:38:00 - [228] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though I was also looking forward to one less spammer in the CAOD. Wonder what his rank is now though. He doesn't wear it in his sig like the other ISSN kids. -----
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:29:00 - [229] It seems ISS has decided it wants to shoot ASCN. If one decides to go to the BDCI killboard, one can see the killmail of an ASCN Rokh with an ISS carrier and ISS Battleship very high on damage on the killmail.
Ehxo Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:35:00 - [230] Originally by: BlackHorizon It seems ISS has decided it wants to shoot ASCN. If one decides to go to the BDCI killboard, one can see the killmail of an ASCN Rokh with an ISS carrier and ISS Battleship very high on damage on the killmail. 1st its a Raven 2nd he shouldnt of jumped in and the carriers might had fighters assigned to fix pilots -
Zeknichov Amarr Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:37:00 - [231] Edited by: Zeknichov on 19/12/2006 01:38:30 Originally by: BlackHorizon It seems ISS has decided it wants to shoot ASCN. If one decides to go to the BDCI killboard, one can see the killmail of an ASCN Rokh with an ISS carrier and ISS Battleship very high on damage on the killmail. Well you know what that means... ASCN will join up with you and then BoB will join up with us... Seriously though, what's your point? The kill isn't a matter of want but rather need. It's a warzone and ascn pilots shouldn't be in f4r, who knows with all the talk of ascn having tons of spies in their alliance it could possibly be an IAC alt.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:38:00 - [232] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 19/12/2006 01:40:46 Edited by: BlackHorizon on 19/12/2006 01:38:41 Originally by: Ehxo Originally by: BlackHorizon It seems ISS has decided it wants to shoot ASCN. If one decides to go to the BDCI killboard, one can see the killmail of an ASCN Rokh with an ISS carrier and ISS Battleship very high on damage on the killmail. 1st its a Raven 2nd he shouldnt of jumped in and the carriers might had fighters assigned to fix pilots Ah yes, Raven, my mistake. Anyway, there's an ISS Apoc prominently high (above many carriers) on the killmail. I don't really have a point, other than that ISS are being naughty as usual.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:41:00 - [233] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. Why would I want to miss this one fun fun fun! Well, as long as you are wearing these tags, you might want to watch what you say, since it might be dangerous to your alliance health otherwise. Just little friendly advise for you. The truth will set you free
Spiderweb Caldari Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:53:00 - [234] gg IAC P.S. That Titan looks stunning up close :D ----------------------------------------------- "Light, in the Darkest of Hours..."
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:56:00 - [235] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 19/12/2006 02:03:20 Originally by: Spiderweb P.S. That Titan looks stunning up close :D Well, it seems you did meet The Enslaver, my minmatar friend.
Ed Hudkins Frontier Worlds Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 02:12:00 - [236] Originally by: Coug Originally by: corporal hicks Just go's to show you never know who is a shareholder in ISS..I never thought I would ever see FIX and Shinra in the same area for more than 5 mins without them shooting each other Bet half the shinra guys are thinking the exact same thing, all I can say is win lose or draw this will be a hel of a campaign and I am so happy to be back to eve to participate. I believe The Enslavers quote on TS last night was something along the lines of, "Yesterday I would have never guessed that today I would be warping into this many FIX Dreads and not using my super weapon." We had a good laugh at that Actually he had used it today to finish a POS with the alied Dread fleet present... It was funny tho...
Ed Hudkins Frontier Worlds Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 02:17:00 - [237] Originally by: Meoshi I'd hope he launches doomsday while parked next to the dreads and carriers....all I'm asking for xmas.... It has been already done
corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 02:18:00 - [238] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 19/12/2006 01:52:57 Originally by: Ehxo Originally by: BlackHorizon It seems ISS has decided it wants to shoot ASCN. If one decides to go to the BDCI killboard, one can see the killmail of an ASCN Rokh with an ISS carrier and ISS Battleship very high on damage on the killmail. 1st its a Raven 2nd he shouldnt of jumped in and the carriers might had fighters assigned to fix pilots Ah yes, Raven, my mistake. Anyway, there's an ISS Apoc prominently high (above many carriers) on the killmail. I don't really have a point, other than that ISS members are being naughty as usual, unless of course, ISS have officially set ASCN red. But I doubt it's the latter case. Spin it whatever way ya want. Point: He should not have jumped in..only clueless pilot in all 0.0 Point: FIX blew him up, even without the iss fighters assigned to fix ships he would have been blown up. Point: ASCN can blame ISS if they want but case is FIX did the killin. " Stay Frosty "
Wicke Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 02:26:00 - [239] Wow, there's a lot of bitter people in this thread. Take it easy guys. See you in space.
Ovale KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 02:33:00 - [240] I called that ASCN Raven hostile. He is and had no business in the battle zone. As far as that goes, ASCN knows what and why their standings are what they are with us.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 03:27:00 - [241] Originally by: James Snowscoran Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though I was also looking forward to one less spammer in the CAOD. Wonder what his rank is now though. He doesn't wear it in his sig like the other ISSN kids. I'm 'speshal'. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.19 04:09:00 - [242] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: James Snowscoran Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Metal Dude Hmm. Butter Dog in ISS? What a surprise. yah we were all excited he was rejoining cause he said when he did he would stop posting. Dunno what happened to that though I was also looking forward to one less spammer in the CAOD. Wonder what his rank is now though. He doesn't wear it in his sig like the other ISSN kids. I'm 'speshal'. Yes, yes you are. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.19 04:43:00 - [243] I tried to take Enslavers cookie and he detonated the doomsday device... it hurt... however.. i still ate the cookie.
M1NeR Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.19 08:50:00 - [244] Haha I was wondering what's LV doing there... but I see. They got spanked badly by RAGOON, their "coalition" is nothing more than simple word now so they are trying to "show at least something" and attacking much weaker foe. Very clever move haha . -------
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.19 08:56:00 - [245] Originally by: M1NeR Haha I was wondering what's LV doing there... but I see. They got spanked badly by RAGOON, their "coalition" is nothing more than simple word now so they are trying to "show at least something" and attacking much weaker foe. Very clever move haha . Your attempt to be funny failed. Real bad. Now take your moaning to some red gimp vs. lv thread. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 09:00:00 - [246] I need some accurate cap ships numbers please otherwise ill be spamming Seleene with convos this afternoon ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.19 09:04:00 - [247] Originally by: Raid I tried to take Enslavers cookie and he detonated the doomsday device... it hurt... however.. i still ate the cookie. with regards to the last doomsday firing. Did the 2 ISS cov ops pilots know you were setting it off? and what about the FIX cormorant? or were they all needed to hold down the 1 empty iterion mk 3? regardless after the hit against goons last week, i spose your due a couple of duff ones REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
Drakkana Staat Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.19 09:23:00 - [248] did you guys give advance notice to enslaver before this post?
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 09:25:00 - [249] Edited by: Seleene on 19/12/2006 09:30:05 Originally by: RichThugster Originally by: Raid I tried to take Enslavers cookie and he detonated the doomsday device... it hurt... however.. i still ate the cookie. with regards to the last doomsday firing. We wanted to do a little test. We waited until the force field bubble was down and then set off Judgement. Interestingly, the POS strucutes were not even scratched. CCP has been notified. Quote: Did the 2 ISS cov ops pilots know you were setting it off? and what about the FIX cormorant? or were they all needed to hold down the 1 empty iterion mk 3? regardless after the hit against goons last week, i spose your due a couple of duff ones We warned people to get clear. Whoever hung around obviously was not too attached to their ship as they knew what was coming. [ 2006.12.19 01:05:21 ] (combat) The Enslaver [SNRA];-LV-;(Avatar) hits you, doing 65625.0 damage. JUDGEMENT BOOOMAGE - Fight the Darkness!
Caleb Paine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 09:28:00 - [250] Yup, I'd happily trade my Helios for a cool Doomsday fraps and add it to my 'been there, done that' list. -------------------------------- ISS Navy Task Force; Protecting your interest.
mudders Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.12.19 10:01:00 - [251] Originally by: Butter Dog If you'd like a definition of arrogant, see myself. Fixed it for you GL IAC/SOD <3 Demoria ______________ [DLINE] Mudders And on the 7th day the lord spoke'th "...and let there be man-love..."
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.19 12:32:00 - [252] Originally by: Seleene We wanted to do a little test. We waited until the force field bubble was down and then set off Judgement. Interestingly, the POS strucutes were not even scratched. CCP has been notified. Well when LV bombed the goon/tcf fleet the large bubble they had anchored survived as well (at least that's what it looked like on the screens/vids) so it shouldn't have come as too much of a surprise to you. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.19 12:50:00 - [253] Doesn't the large bubble also have 150k HP? Anyway. Got Tyrrax with the doomsday. I feel complete ^^. --------
Xaarist FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.19 12:55:00 - [254] Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Seleene We wanted to do a little test. We waited until the force field bubble was down and then set off Judgement. Interestingly, the POS strucutes were not even scratched. CCP has been notified. Well when LV bombed the goon/tcf fleet the large bubble they had anchored survived as well (at least that's what it looked like on the screens/vids) so it shouldn't have come as too much of a surprise to you. look closer my friend... ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD...
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.19 12:57:00 - [255] Originally by: Seleene [ 2006.12.19 01:05:21 ] (combat) The Enslaver [SNRA];-LV-;(Avatar) hits you, doing 65625.0 damage. JUDGEMENT BOOOMAGE Oi! That is a picture of a picture in a video player! Give video to me or else it gets the CAPS again! The light of a thousand suns... Its beutiful. Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:09:00 - [256] Originally by: RichThugster with regards to the last doomsday firing. Did the 2 ISS cov ops pilots know you were setting it off? They were Frapsing It was worth the cost of the cloak, according to them :) ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:11:00 - [257] Originally by: Xaarist Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Seleene We wanted to do a little test. We waited until the force field bubble was down and then set off Judgement. Interestingly, the POS strucutes were not even scratched. CCP has been notified. Well when LV bombed the goon/tcf fleet the large bubble they had anchored survived as well (at least that's what it looked like on the screens/vids) so it shouldn't have come as too much of a surprise to you. look closer my friend... What has the bubbles got to do with anything? What matters where that both where unprotected anchored objects which to me at least it's obvious they will be treated the same by the game. Or do you try to imply that the warp interdiction field around the large bubble would somehow protect it against the doomsday weapon?... ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:18:00 - [258] Question: Do you MC/LV/etc lot actually expect IAC to mount a proper defence? Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. People are quick to join in when victory is assured but avoid the other side like a sinking ship. Good luck IAC. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Lazydog Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:30:00 - [259] hey zang. look page 9 nearly there......... Ixion Unleashed Army Fleet Commander "Leeroy" Manoeuvres Division
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:35:00 - [260] The F4R situation update is since last night IAC has lost one small and one large tower in system.
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:37:00 - [261] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 19/12/2006 09:30:05 Originally by: RichThugster Originally by: Raid I tried to take Enslavers cookie and he detonated the doomsday device... it hurt... however.. i still ate the cookie. with regards to the last doomsday firing. We wanted to do a little test. We waited until the force field bubble was down and then set off Judgement. Interestingly, the POS strucutes were not even scratched. CCP has been notified. Quote: Did the 2 ISS cov ops pilots know you were setting it off? and what about the FIX cormorant? or were they all needed to hold down the 1 empty iterion mk 3? regardless after the hit against goons last week, i spose your due a couple of duff ones We warned people to get clear. Whoever hung around obviously was not too attached to their ship as they knew what was coming. [ 2006.12.19 01:05:21 ] (combat) The Enslaver [SNRA];-LV-;(Avatar) hits you, doing 65625.0 damage. JUDGEMENT BOOOMAGE cool pic...it always blows my mind when i think about titans on TQ...used to seeing them on sisi clearing out drones
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:38:00 - [262] Originally by: welsh wizard Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. Winning > Giving your enemy a 'fair' chance i would guess? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:43:00 - [263] Originally by: The Enslaver Doesn't the large bubble also have 150k HP? Anyway. Got Tyrrax with the doomsday. I feel complete ^^. Not until you get me. 71% struct left on the all mighty ( I can't really say that with a straight face ) Maelstrom. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:44:00 - [264] Do the different superweapons do different colour explosions? , coz if you set off one of each you could have a lovely firework display
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:46:00 - [265] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: welsh wizard Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. Winning > Giving your enemy a 'fair' chance i would guess? Remember that ISS are into building up public ventures in 0.0 rather than being a typical alliance who want to pvp for fun. They were attacked by IAC and so it is in their interest and the interest of their shareholders to finish this conflict as fast as they can to their advantage so that ISS can go back to business as usual.
CJ70 Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:01:00 - [266] Originally by: welsh wizard Question: Do you MC/LV/etc lot actually expect IAC to mount a proper defence? Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. People are quick to join in when victory is assured but avoid the other side like a sinking ship. Good luck IAC. IAC started the conflict surely knowing full well what they could expect if they threatened ISS outposts. If not then that's their fault.
Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:09:00 - [267] So, what happened today when the pos's came out of reinforced? Any good battles (or bad ones?) just curious Trading 101
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:28:00 - [268] Originally by: Kaaii So, what happened today when the pos's came out of reinforced? Any good battles (or bad ones?) just curious Both POS were destroyed. At 12.36 today, Enslaver made the first real Doomesday activation of the fight, destroying a large IAC gang. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:43:00 - [269] Originally by: welsh wizard Question: Do you MC/LV/etc lot actually expect IAC to mount a proper defence? Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. People are quick to join in when victory is assured but avoid the other side like a sinking ship. Good luck IAC. remo man > a mothership and 2 carriers for a couple of bs and frigs seleene remo man > i'm amazed Seleene > Yes yes yes. ANd if we brought in one more BS, or 30 frigs, you would still find a flaw in our abilities, m8. you play your game, we'll play ours. We don't owe each other explainations. EvE is all about the blobs now.
Eleese Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:50:00 - [270] Originally by: welsh wizard Question: Do you MC/LV/etc lot actually expect IAC to mount a proper defence? Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. People are quick to join in when victory is assured but avoid the other side like a sinking ship. Good luck IAC. Well last time we attack iac systems. We got outblobed by cva/iac/axe etc to the stage we had about 60 vs 250+ (estimates) this time round we bought 300 and iac are allied with goonswarm, ra, tcf etc so... I do find it quite ironic people bringing up the number differences.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:56:00 - [271] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: welsh wizard Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. Winning > Giving your enemy a 'fair' chance i would guess? Remember that ISS are into building up public ventures in 0.0 rather than being a typical alliance who want to pvp for fun. They were attacked by IAC and so it is in their interest and the interest of their shareholders to finish this conflict as fast as they can to their advantage so that ISS can go back to business as usual. That has the be the most ill concieved post I have ever heard. Hans... live next to ISS for over a year. You will know what they are about. Please don't post like you believe the ISS spin and "we're non-political" rabble. Isk is the governing politic to many in EVE. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Velt Lhasar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:02:00 - [272] can someone please explain to me the connection between Hugh Grant and MC/Seleene is?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:05:00 - [273] Originally by: Velt Lhasar can someone please explain to me the connection between Hugh Grant and MC/Seleene is? They are lovers? .. sorry couldn't help myself
corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:05:00 - [274] Originally by: Velt Lhasar can someone please explain to me the connection between Hugh Grant and MC/Seleene is? Seleene is Bridget jones " Stay Frosty "
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:06:00 - [275] Originally by: corporal hicks Originally by: Velt Lhasar can someone please explain to me the connection between Hugh Grant and MC/Seleene is? Seleene is Bridget jones I'm faster than joooo.. muahahahaha.
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:09:00 - [276] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: welsh wizard Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. Winning > Giving your enemy a 'fair' chance i would guess? Remember that ISS are into building up public ventures in 0.0 rather than being a typical alliance who want to pvp for fun. They were attacked by IAC and so it is in their interest and the interest of their shareholders to finish this conflict as fast as they can to their advantage so that ISS can go back to business as usual. That has the be the most ill concieved post I have ever heard. Hans... live next to ISS for over a year. You will know what they are about. Please don't post like you believe the ISS spin and "we're non-political" rabble. Isk is the governing politic to many in EVE. In all fairness, you just sound bitter. -----
Tjakka KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:10:00 - [277] Edited by: Tjakka on 19/12/2006 15:11:21 Originally by: Unfamed II Originally by: M1NeR Haha I was wondering what's LV doing there... but I see. They got spanked badly by RAGOON, their "coalition" is nothing more than simple word now so they are trying to "show at least something" and attacking much weaker foe. Very clever move haha . Your attempt to be funny failed. Real bad. Now take your moaning to some red gimp vs. lv thread. he aint funny but he has a point lol why didnt you go after RA/Goons while Mercs are bussy with IAC and keeps em outta the field around RA/Goon space. Your allaince is just a bunch fanboys that cant seem to get anything done alone, and try get moral up by killing a allaince thats has almost 0 affect on LV. Why didnt you come with those great motherships when we were killing all those poor V towers? not that it matters now anyway maybe ISS will give you a station from IAC ones your removed from the rest of SI
Coug Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:15:00 - [278] Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch EvE is all about the blobs now. That all depends on what you define as "Eve". The Game of Empires, aka Territorial Conquest, is very much about; Power, Projection of Power, Technological Supremacy, Diplomacy, Industrial Might, and Control of the Media (to name a few). In hind sight, DMGI and RFM were very good at what we did, and we worked together very well. We had no territorial ambitions, we didn't want to play that game - and we had fun in what we did. But we did have to take our ball and move to a different court from time to time as the Game of Empires players moved their pieces. There will always be entities in this game that either aren't ready to put their piece on the board yet/ever, or donÆt care about it, and as long as they are enjoying their time playing the game there will be a place in the game for them that don't include "blobs". It is merely the delusional nature of those entities who think they actually are playing the Game of Empires that complain about Eve going the way of the blob. They are making excuses for why their piece on the board is insignificant because they lack in many of the areas I mentioned previously. In the end, if you define Eve as any of the thousands of ways to play this game by any other definition of the game other than* through the Game of Empires, Eve is most certainly not about blobs. If you think you want to play in the Game of Empires, make sure you are true to yourself** about your capabilities in all the appropriate areas before you venture forth, else youÆll never grow. * - I never understood why PugwashÆs public postings suggested we cared or thought we mattered in the Game of Empires. Well that is not entirely true: he always thought that it would ** BoB off enough for them to make a mistake when dealing with him, I always shook my head at that notion. Robbie, myself and the rest of the guys always knew we were not playing that game and we were having a blast doing what we were doing. All in all, the post-mortem of VC will come another day, I merely intended to illustrate my familiarity with the subject matter. Hi Metal Dude! ----------------- ~C~
matty01 The Priory	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:15:00 - [279] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: welsh wizard Theres no competition here, what happened to gameplay? I think its sad how important absolute undeniable victory has become. It's the same mindset thats going to let BoB do a full circle of 0.0 with little to no resistance. Winning > Giving your enemy a 'fair' chance i would guess? Remember that ISS are into building up public ventures in 0.0 rather than being a typical alliance who want to pvp for fun. They were attacked by IAC and so it is in their interest and the interest of their shareholders to finish this conflict as fast as they can to their advantage so that ISS can go back to business as usual. That has the be the most ill concieved post I have ever heard. Hans... live next to ISS for over a year. You will know what they are about. Please don't post like you believe the ISS spin and "we're non-political" rabble. Isk is the governing politic to many in EVE. well tbh we lived next to ISS for a long time while in Huzzah, we all know what they're really about, thats why everybody just rolls their eyes when they're on about being non-political blah blah blah even some of the mercs they hire dont believe their story lol __________________________
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:16:00 - [280] Edited by: Cadiz on 19/12/2006 15:17:05 Originally by: Kaylana Syi That has the be the most ill concieved post I have ever heard. Hans... live next to ISS for over a year. You will know what they are about. Please don't post like you believe the ISS spin and "we're non-political" rabble. Isk is the governing politic to many in EVE. Um, Hans did live next to the ISS for half a year or so. Remember, he was the president of the Huzzah Federation when we moved into Catch, and we were in Catch before you guys set up shop in that pocket of yours. ...oh shi-, one-upped by matty01! You're supposed to be in NoQ, you nub! Your abandonment of us for increased ISS-pewpewage makes me cry the bitter tears of sorrow. Where's the love, sir? ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:17:00 - [281] Originally by: James Snowscoran In all fairness, you just sound bitter. Not really... I've had so many kills in the past few days my killboard is whispering sweet nothings in my ear. All the while reading how IAC is defeated and they had it comming rabble and how ISS is a saint. Coming from a past ally and capable foes... it really just disapoints me because fighting MC is about as fun as it gets for me. We've fought toe to toe with nearly everyone in this battle at some point or another and have lost some and won some. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.19 15:38:00 - [282] Originally by: Velt Lhasar can someone please explain to me the connection between Hugh Grant and MC/Seleene is? Manlove
s73v3n2k Caldari UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.19 16:08:00 - [283] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: James Snowscoran In all fairness, you just sound bitter. Not really... I've had so many kills in the past few days my killboard is whispering sweet nothings in my ear. All the while reading how IAC is defeated and they had it comming rabble and how ISS is a saint. Coming from a past ally and capable foes... it really just disapoints me because fighting MC is about as fun as it gets for me. We've fought toe to toe with nearly everyone in this battle at some point or another and have lost some and won some. well Now you know how us -LV- members feel. we still control 3 regions, own 15 stations last time i checked, have around a 3:1 kill:death ratio versus RAgoon, rarely lose a fleet battle and yet we as an alliance are constantly reminded on these boards that its nearly over for us and its only a matter of time before we are destroyed etc etc etc
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.19 17:43:00 - [284] What i don't get is last time, Mcfix got so blobbed they couldn't do much. So this time they bring more power and iac are complaing about being outnumbered. You obviously have allie's judging by the last round so why don't you gather your forces like last time? How exactly did you come to earn the space your currently inhabit? BoB lite let them keep it when they surrendered to us and stabbed Xetic between the shoulderblades.
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.19 18:08:00 - [285] About the ASCN raven being popped. IAC, I have quite a bit of respect for you guys, being a former member myself, but... Please don't try to drag us into your mess, mistakes happen. I talked to the pilot and she really doesn't care, wrong place, wrong time. Probably wasnt paying attention to the area of space she was in. No big deal, raven's are a dime a dozen. It is quite understandable that an unidentified player who jumps into a gate camped by bubbles will be automatically shot upon by pilots who's hearts are racing. ISS isnt exactly used to combat. I can imagine once ISS started shooting everyone else just followed suit... Anyway, no matter what happened, I don't care, and as far as my conversation with the victim, I Don't think she cares either. Theres my two isk, have fun and good luck IAC.
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.12.19 18:23:00 - [286] IAC must be bad455 with all them nubblets ganging up to pop em. go IAC
Xinda Duban	Posted - 2006.12.19 18:47:00 - [287] Go IAC, us common mortals are with you. Shame on ISS
Rahn Altyr Minmatar Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2006.12.19 19:15:00 - [288] Edited by: Rahn Altyr on 19/12/2006 19:15:09 Originally by: Cyllaina Ravens are a dime a dozen. Sent $1.20 USD to your offshore bank accounts. Please deliver the gross (144) of ravens to Jita, IV 4. Seriously though, my first taste of 0.0 space was with IAC, so good luck to you guys. Edit: I are bad with roman numerals. The Dark is Rising. Come, and rise with us.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:30:00 - [289] Sorry, what's this thread about again?
greenhornet Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.20 00:15:00 - [290] Originally by: Tjakka why didnt you go after RA/Goons while Mercs are bussy with IAC and keeps em outta the field around RA/Goon space. Your allaince is just a bunch fanboys that cant seem to get anything done alone, and try get moral up by killing a allaince thats has almost 0 affect on LV. Why didnt you come with those great motherships when we were killing all those poor V towers? not that it matters now anyway maybe ISS will give you a station from IAC ones your removed from the rest of SI I have a bunch of questions, which are all rhetorical. Ragoon have only attacked our allies and not us. How come it is cool for them to attack our allies, but when we help an entity who we have alignment with against a Ragoon ally it is unfair? BTW, are you supposed to be a merc? It is in your corps best interest to not alienate any potential employers by talking smack? Why don't you do your corp a favor and get back to the job you were paid to do, which ain't here talking smack about the people who are aligned with your employer?
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.20 09:59:00 - [291] Update: Overnight another IAC POS was destroyed and an ISS large one put in its place, also JBY now has 9 IAC POS in reinforced mode. Goons & Imperium made their presence known in F4R as well over the early hours of the morning. As ISS and IAC now have parity in system with regards to large towers claiming sov if nothing changes the station will be shootable in 5 days time.
Alex SOKOLOFF Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.20 10:10:00 - [292] IAC scarred so many ppl ?! IAC show them how real men fight Make them to loose 3 times more than you.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.20 14:10:00 - [293] Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day.
CJ70 Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.20 14:15:00 - [294] Originally by: Hans Roaming Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. Santa I want an outpost for christmas toooo
Kibito x13	Posted - 2006.12.20 14:25:00 - [295] Gang bang ftl
Amith Silvermoon ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 14:39:00 - [296] Originally by: Hans Roaming Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. Wow present's and a outpost best Christmas EVER!!
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.20 14:55:00 - [297] Edited by: Press Officer on 20/12/2006 14:55:06 Quote: Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. I bet that IAC kinda think their plan to get a few free Outposts has kinda backfired ... What was it ......... 3 Months ago ...... IAC talked about attacking ISS 3 Weeks ago ....... IAC formulated the attack plan and informed corporation leaders 1.5 Weeks ago ...... IAC declare war and inform all members thats its "all the way" 5 Days from now ...... IAC lose everything ...... You planner needs to be relocated to my home town in Siberia
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.20 15:11:00 - [298] Originally by: Press Officer Edited by: Press Officer on 20/12/2006 14:55:06 Quote: Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. I bet that IAC kinda think their plan to get a few free Outposts has kinda backfired ... What was it ......... 3 Months ago ...... IAC talked about attacking ISS 3 Weeks ago ....... IAC formulated the attack plan and informed corporation leaders 1.5 Weeks ago ...... IAC declare war and inform all members thats its "all the way" 5 Days from now ...... IAC lose everything ...... You planner needs to be relocated to my home town in Siberia Butter dog? is that you? Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.20 15:48:00 - [299] Butter dog.. I remember you, weren't you kicked out of ISSN for pirating neutrals/allies in Keshirou? Why the heck would ISS let you back in? You don't seem to have much self control with your mouth nevermind your guns., I dont see the underlying benefit here. Someone fill me in! X_X
James Duar Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:00:00 - [300] Someone bottom-line it for me - is ISS planning to try and obliterate IAC, or just hurt them so hard they'll never ever do this again?
Dal Thrax Caldari House Of Troy	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:02:00 - [301] Originally by: Hans Roaming Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. Marry Christmas.
Dal Thrax Caldari House Of Troy	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:05:00 - [302] Originally by: James Duar Someone bottom-line it for me - is ISS planning to try and obliterate IAC, or just hurt them so hard they'll never ever do this again? They're sending a message. Baring some truely great diplomancy IAC's systems are toast.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:06:00 - [303] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Press Officer Edited by: Press Officer on 20/12/2006 14:55:06 Quote: Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. I bet that IAC kinda think their plan to get a few free Outposts has kinda backfired ... What was it ......... 3 Months ago ...... IAC talked about attacking ISS 3 Weeks ago ....... IAC formulated the attack plan and informed corporation leaders 1.5 Weeks ago ...... IAC declare war and inform all members thats its "all the way" 5 Days from now ...... IAC lose everything ...... You planner needs to be relocated to my home town in Siberia Butter dog? is that you? No, I always post with my main. Though sometimes I think I should get an alt like that ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:07:00 - [304] Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/12/2006 16:08:34 Originally by: Cyllaina Butter dog.. I remember you, weren't you kicked out of ISSN for pirating neutrals/allies in Keshirou? Why the heck would ISS let you back in? You don't seem to have much self control with your mouth nevermind your guns., I dont see the underlying benefit here. Someone fill me in! X_X I was never, ever kicked from ISSN. I don't know where you heard that from, but it is incorrect. As far as the 'benefit' goes... well when I am in ISS, I give it my 100% and then some, and I respect their rules of engagement. I guess they appreciate that. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:12:00 - [305] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Press Officer Edited by: Press Officer on 20/12/2006 14:55:06 Quote: Update: Two more IAC large towers destroyed in F4R and replaced by ISS towers, if nothing changes F4R will go neutral sov in less than five days and ISS will have sov on xmas day. I bet that IAC kinda think their plan to get a few free Outposts has kinda backfired ... What was it ......... 3 Months ago ...... IAC talked about attacking ISS 3 Weeks ago ....... IAC formulated the attack plan and informed corporation leaders 1.5 Weeks ago ...... IAC declare war and inform all members thats its "all the way" 5 Days from now ...... IAC lose everything ...... You planner needs to be relocated to my home town in Siberia Butter dog? is that you? SANTA!?!?!?!
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.20 16:13:00 - [306] Are you SURE?!?! Because quitting ISS before they have a chance to kick you is no different from getting booted out, you know. I'm pretty sure that was you.... -.- Oh well that was months ago and I could be wrong, i guess. But I don't want to be, so i'm sticking to my railguns on this! >_<
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.20 17:33:00 - [307] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/12/2006 16:08:34 Originally by: Cyllaina Butter dog.. I remember you, weren't you kicked out of ISSN for pirating neutrals/allies in Keshirou? Why the heck would ISS let you back in? You don't seem to have much self control with your mouth nevermind your guns., I dont see the underlying benefit here. Someone fill me in! X_X I was never, ever kicked from ISSN. I don't know where you heard that from, but it is incorrect. As far as the 'benefit' goes... well when I am in ISS, I give it my 100% and then some, and I respect their rules of engagement. I guess they appreciate that. No, they take what trash they can get.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.20 17:39:00 - [308] Quote: No, they take what trash they can get. Such anger .... I take it your application got refused Did they say something like "Come back in a year or two when you get the hang on the game"
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.20 17:41:00 - [309] Nope, but I was in IAC before, and has flown under Butter Dog's lead, and what he does best in eve is forumwhoring, and he is not good at that either.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.20 17:42:00 - [310] Nice. 8/11 moons in friendly control in F4R already. Fun fun fun! As it stands, on christmas day, ISS get sovereignty in F4R. --------
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.20 17:51:00 - [311] Quote: Nope, but I was in IAC before, and has flown under Butter Dog's lead, and what he does best in eve is forumwhoring, and he is not good at that either. So your a "has been" ......
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.20 18:00:00 - [312] Same as you, just that I can post with my main.......
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.20 18:06:00 - [313] Quote: Same as you, just that I can post with my main....... Rule check ... oh I have a corp ....... pass
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.20 18:09:00 - [314] He said post with your main, not whether or not your alt has a corp... Gawd BD....
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.20 18:11:00 - [315] And the assumption I don't use this character as a main ... goes to "Officer Dribble"
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.20 18:31:00 - [316] Edited by: patteSatan on 20/12/2006 18:42:50 Originally by: Press Officer "Officer Dribble" You said it yourself.
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 19:33:00 - [317] Man, got in on this thread late. /signed & all that jazz
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 20:45:00 - [318] I have a good idea who Press Officer is, I recognise his writing style. Its not me, I post with my main. He hasnt said anything I have already said with my main character, so using him would be of no benefit to me. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.20 20:49:00 - [319] It's never good when two different friends fight :( on the other hand, it's a good job that Goon came to help, so they can then come to OUR systems for a swift trip back home.
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.20 21:14:00 - [320] Originally by: Butter Dog I have a good idea who Press Officer is, I recognise his writing style. Its not me, I post with my main. He hasnt said anything I have already said with my main character, so using him would be of no benefit to me. qft (that was a pain to write)
Coby Descent ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 22:04:00 - [321] Originally by: Cyllaina Are you SURE?!?! Because quitting ISS before they have a chance to kick you is no different from getting booted out, you know. I'm pretty sure that was you.... -.- Oh well that was months ago and I could be wrong, i guess. But I don't want to be, so i'm sticking to my railguns on this! >_< BD was never kicked from ISS. He occasionally leaves us to persue an "alternate(and probably more enjoyable) playing style", but his heart (and soul) will always be with ISS.
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 23:22:00 - [322] Originally by: Coby Descent Originally by: Cyllaina Are you SURE?!?! Because quitting ISS before they have a chance to kick you is no different from getting booted out, you know. I'm pretty sure that was you.... -.- Oh well that was months ago and I could be wrong, i guess. But I don't want to be, so i'm sticking to my railguns on this! >_< BD was never kicked from ISS. He occasionally leaves us to persue an "alternate(and probably more enjoyable) playing style", but his heart (and soul) will always be with ISS. Have ISS management considered the possible problems of being affiliated with this pirate? I mean, no offense to you guys, but when BD is going in and out of ISSN, his actions kinda comes off as ISS sanctioned actions even when he's not flying under your flag. Hypothetically speaking, would it be controversial if dead miner's society were used as a corporation that ISSN migrated into when targets are sparse, only to hop back into ISSN when there's a campaign to fight? Cause it does look like that's what's happening, just on a smaller scale (1 man) -----
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.20 23:57:00 - [323] Hello my name is Lorth. I have been away for some time, and am only now finding out that I get to shoot someone during my Xmas break. The only reason I am posting this, is to point out that while simular, my sig is much better then Seleene's. I would also like to point out that at the present time, I have nothing to do for two weeks, I have 320 oz. of Rye, and was in a fighting mood before all this started. If anyone was in doubt as to what would occur during this fight... rest assured that its no longer a contest.
Coby Descent ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:16:00 - [324] Originally by: James Snowscoran I mean, no offense to you guys, but when BD is going in and out of ISSN, his actions kinda comes off as ISS sanctioned actions even when he's not flying under your flag. Hypothetically speaking, would it be controversial if dead miner's society were used as a corporation that ISSN migrated into when targets are sparse, only to hop back into ISSN when there's a campaign to fight? Cause it does look like that's what's happening, just on a smaller scale (1 man) No offence taken. What BD does when not flying under the ISS flag is no real concern of ours. It's the way the game works; we have many ex-pirates, and many pirates-to-be amongst our members, but as long as they follow our ROE while with us(as BD always does), then it is irrelevant. I bet a lot of members of other alliances do the same, just more secretively. Who do you think makes up the base membership of Privateers? My guess would be alts of the very alliances they target! In fact, under the new charter, "ISS allow pirates and fleets to dock but will respond to concerns of neighbours on docking rights". The fact that he might enjoy some pew-pew does not mean that he doesn't value the vision of ISS, cause trust me he does! Now back on topic... there's only 2 ISS threads in the top 5 on this forum.. get smacking people!
Bartho Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:50:00 - [325] IAC you have my sympathies and good luck with the war. Hopefully you win it even though the war looks grim right now.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:55:00 - [326] Originally by: James Snowscoran Originally by: Coby Descent Originally by: Cyllaina Are you SURE?!?! Because quitting ISS before they have a chance to kick you is no different from getting booted out, you know. I'm pretty sure that was you.... -.- Oh well that was months ago and I could be wrong, i guess. But I don't want to be, so i'm sticking to my railguns on this! >_< BD was never kicked from ISS. He occasionally leaves us to persue an "alternate(and probably more enjoyable) playing style", but his heart (and soul) will always be with ISS. Have ISS management considered the possible problems of being affiliated with this pirate? I mean, no offense to you guys, but when BD is going in and out of ISSN, his actions kinda comes off as ISS sanctioned actions even when he's not flying under your flag. Hypothetically speaking, would it be controversial if dead miner's society were used as a corporation that ISSN migrated into when targets are sparse, only to hop back into ISSN when there's a campaign to fight? Cause it does look like that's what's happening, just on a smaller scale (1 man) ISSN accept pirates into the corp, provided they don't pirate while in ISSN. Its quite simply really. Outside ISSN people can do what they like, inside they have to obey the rules of engagement. And if ISSN DIDNT recruit pirates, it pretty much wouldnt be able to recruit any PvPers, since most PvPers have pirated at some point. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 01:55:00 - [327] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game.
Imode Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:07:00 - [328] Collateral damage. ASCN should not be up here as they have an abundant amount of problems in their own regions at the moment. FIX has them set to -10. If they decide to show up for whatever reason while the fleet is being commanded by a FIX FC, they will die. ____________________________ my sig
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:18:00 - [329] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. I would stop trying to play such games, considering ASCN has already said, in this very thread, that it is irrelevant as said pilots weren't even supposed to be there. At current the situation is pretty simple though; if people are part of factions that are uninvolved in the situation and they show up, they will end up dying. It's that simple. --------
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:27:00 - [330] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. Very weak. ASCN have already stated their position in this thread, quite clearly. Update on F4: The second to last IAC POS has been destroyed. Sov will transfer to ISS tomorrow. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:43:00 - [331] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. Very weak. ASCN have already stated their position in this thread, quite clearly. ASCN's position is irrelevant to my point, and they're not the only blue entity ISS is shooting.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:01:00 - [332] Originally by: BlackHorizon ASCN's position is irrelevant to my point, and they're not the only blue entity ISS is shooting. Yeah, well, people who bump me tend to get killed also. Friendly or not ;o Now, go find someone who actually cares, and who's main isn't in IAC. I wish you the best of luck with that. --------
Torshin TARDZ Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:13:00 - [333] eh i care a little bit if that counts enslaver?, BD can you shed anylight on what you do with the F4 outpost? Will it become just another ISS outpost or will a buffer alliance be put in place? Tardation Tests free of charge for those who sign up soon.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:16:00 - [334] Originally by: Torshin eh i care a little bit if that counts enslaver?, BD can you shed anylight on what you do with the F4 outpost? Will it become just another ISS outpost or will a buffer alliance be put in place? Nope, and dunno. You'd have to ask ISS Management, I just pew pew. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Excesse The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:21:00 - [335] All that's worth adding to this thread is that ISS may find it surprising what this blob has done to the +/- standings of the other inhabitants of the south. Quite aside from IAC, you guys certainly haven't made any friends around here lately. It will be interesting to see how many 'locals' are shooting at you long after the big guns have packed up and gone. :)
Archilies Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:22:00 - [336] Originally by: Coby Descent Originally by: James Snowscoran I mean, no offense to you guys, but when BD is going in and out of ISSN, his actions kinda comes off as ISS sanctioned actions even when he's not flying under your flag. Hypothetically speaking, would it be controversial if dead miner's society were used as a corporation that ISSN migrated into when targets are sparse, only to hop back into ISSN when there's a campaign to fight? Cause it does look like that's what's happening, just on a smaller scale (1 man) No offence taken. What BD does when not flying under the ISS flag is no real concern of ours. It's the way the game works; we have many ex-pirates, and many pirates-to-be amongst our members, but as long as they follow our ROE while with us(as BD always does), then it is irrelevant. I bet a lot of members of other alliances do the same, just more secretively. Who do you think makes up the base membership of Privateers? My guess would be alts of the very alliances they target! In fact, under the new charter, "ISS allow pirates and fleets to dock but will respond to concerns of neighbours on docking rights". The fact that he might enjoy some pew-pew does not mean that he doesn't value the vision of ISS, cause trust me he does! Now back on topic... there's only 2 ISS threads in the top 5 on this forum.. get smacking people! coby is a pirate Recruitment Thread
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:29:00 - [337] Originally by: Excesse All that's worth adding to this thread is that ISS may find it surprising what this blob has done to the +/- standings of the other inhabitants of the south. Quite aside from IAC, you guys certainly haven't made any friends around here lately. It will be interesting to see how many 'locals' are shooting at you long after the big guns have packed up and gone. :) what are we going to do when the npc station huggers come for us Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:49:00 - [338] everyone needs to give eachother a big hug, come on everyone big group hug, no~! thats too tight MC, LV ur choking us, omg what have u done? u get the idea asking for a group hug is asking for trouble especially when the hug comes from something called a 'neutral' the worst thing about neutrals is, that u dont know where they stand, are they with u or against u gl IAC but when u war dec ISS u pretty much slap a girl on there ass in front of there dad, its bound to leave u with a bruise on the other hand i have to admit its kinda interesting to see ye pit against ISS GL to all and merry christmas http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/niroshido/whereeverilandcopy-1.jpg [orange]signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know
Aaron Static Igneus Auctorita	Posted - 2006.12.21 03:50:00 - [339] Originally by: Excesse All that's worth adding to this thread is that ISS may find it surprising what this blob has done to the +/- standings of the other inhabitants of the south. Quite aside from IAC, you guys certainly haven't made any friends around here lately. It will be interesting to see how many 'locals' are shooting at you long after the big guns have packed up and gone. :) /signed - Igneus Auctorita Video -
Entilzah Valen Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:27:00 - [340] Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 21/12/2006 06:33:53 I will be docking in F4R later today. BlackHorizon: Shut up, quit trying to spin this. It's impossible not to have ISS Carriers end up on killmails when their fighters are attached to FIX pilots. The only people whose fault it is for dying is the ASCN pilots that are unaware of their surroundings and what is happening in other parts of the cluster, and for that crime, any pilot deserves get killed. It's also an inevitability that your going to die when you jump into a Mobile Large Warp Disruptor and your surrounded by RED. _________________________________________________________
Marie Sklodowska Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 06:45:00 - [341] this thread is still going? I thought forum mods would have realized that nothing constructive comes from 11 pages of an MC war contract announcement.. www.eve-search.com \| www.eve-files.com
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 07:59:00 - [342] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 08:06:03 Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 21/12/2006 06:33:53 I will be docking in F4R later today. BlackHorizon: Shut up, quit trying to spin this. It's impossible not to have ISS Carriers end up on killmails when their fighters are attached to FIX pilots. The only people whose fault it is for dying is the ASCN pilots that are unaware of their surroundings and what is happening in other parts of the cluster, and for that crime, any pilot deserves get killed. It's also an inevitability that your going to die when you jump into a Mobile Large Warp Disruptor and your surrounded by RED. Theres no shortage of ISS and LV ships on those killmails, excluding carriers. Moreover, some of the blue entities ISS are killing have no standings set with FIX, so they're being killed by blues and neutrals. Needless to say, there will be consequences. You're the one with the "spin".
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 08:13:00 - [343] Originally by: BlackHorizon Theres no shortage of ISS and LV ships on those killmails, excluding carriers. Moreover, some of the blue entities ISS are killing have no standings set with FIX, so they're being killed by blues and neutrals. Needless to say, there will be consequences. You're the one with the "spin". I'm sorry to say that this is pretty inevitable really, when you have this many people all blobbing one system in a giant gangbang, it's bound to happen and there's not really much you can read into it. Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Aira Phlux Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 08:40:00 - [344] Personally I can't wait for large rails to finish so I can join in the gangbang. Nothing like a gangbang at Christmas to put some colour in your cheeks _______________________________________________________________ I know it is only a game ... but I just got T2 ammo for my smack-cannon :D
Imode Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 08:51:00 - [345] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 08:06:03 Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 21/12/2006 06:33:53 I will be docking in F4R later today. BlackHorizon: Shut up, quit trying to spin this. It's impossible not to have ISS Carriers end up on killmails when their fighters are attached to FIX pilots. The only people whose fault it is for dying is the ASCN pilots that are unaware of their surroundings and what is happening in other parts of the cluster, and for that crime, any pilot deserves get killed. It's also an inevitability that your going to die when you jump into a Mobile Large Warp Disruptor and your surrounded by RED. Theres no shortage of ISS and LV ships on those killmails, excluding carriers. Moreover, some of the blue entities ISS are killing have no standings set with FIX, so they're being killed by blues and neutrals. Needless to say, there will be consequences. You're the one with the "spin". Like I've said, collateral damage. It's been an extreme pain in the ass, but for the diplomats' sake, we've been trying to minimize these kills. However, let it be known, that people who do enter a warzone should understand that they are never safe. Such is the nature of the battlefield. Whenever you have this many entities trying to get on the same page, there will always be unintended casualties. Just because you are blue to one entity in this conflict does not mean you will not be shot by another. The fact remains though-- you trying to spin the blatantly obvious in hopes of drumming up public support against ISS by supporting the false claim that they shoot blues and neutrals is nothing short of ridiculous. ____________________________ my sig
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.21 08:52:00 - [346] Edited by: AKULA UrQuan on 21/12/2006 08:52:38 For the love of god. Peeps not directly involved in the fight have no reason to be within two - three jumps of f4 or any IAC station. Also that giant red blob on the map should be a clue to "stay away". As of a few days ago both sides where not closeing off all empire <> 0.0 pipes into catch. It just so happens F4R sits right smack in the middle of the Doril pipe (poor auto pilot junkies). Things could've changed since the last time I had to hike over that way though. Originally by: Crumplecorn Wow, CCP make a change that eliminates whines and there are whines about the lack of whines.
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.21 09:45:00 - [347] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. I would stop trying to play such games, considering ASCN has already said, in this very thread, that it is irrelevant as said pilots weren't even supposed to be there. At current the situation is pretty simple though; if people are part of factions that are uninvolved in the situation and they show up, they will end up dying. It's that simple. Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.21 10:00:00 - [348] Originally by: patteSatan Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. I would stop trying to play such games, considering ASCN has already said, in this very thread, that it is irrelevant as said pilots weren't even supposed to be there. At current the situation is pretty simple though; if people are part of factions that are uninvolved in the situation and they show up, they will end up dying. It's that simple. Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again. You need one of those disclaimers everyone seems to have in their sig nowadays, or otherwise, it means all your alliance is full of morons
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 11:17:00 - [349] Originally by: patteSatan Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again. And what use are you at all, exactly? None. So run along, child. --------
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.21 11:30:00 - [350] Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: patteSatan Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. I would stop trying to play such games, considering ASCN has already said, in this very thread, that it is irrelevant as said pilots weren't even supposed to be there. At current the situation is pretty simple though; if people are part of factions that are uninvolved in the situation and they show up, they will end up dying. It's that simple. Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again. You need one of those disclaimers everyone seems to have in their sig nowadays, or otherwise, it means all your alliance is full of morons I would watch my mouth mr. Ling. As you see I have not a disclaimer but an inclaimer. Feel free to take it up. (Not that I agree with what Patte pots but thats another matter). Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.21 11:49:00 - [351] Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: patteSatan Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. I would stop trying to play such games, considering ASCN has already said, in this very thread, that it is irrelevant as said pilots weren't even supposed to be there. At current the situation is pretty simple though; if people are part of factions that are uninvolved in the situation and they show up, they will end up dying. It's that simple. Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again. You need one of those disclaimers everyone seems to have in their sig nowadays, or otherwise, it means all your alliance is full of morons I would watch my mouth mr. Ling. As you see I have not a disclaimer but an inclaimer. Feel free to take it up. (Not that I agree with what Patte pots but thats another matter). So is it safe to assume that anything patteSatan says is representative of what his Alliance feels?
velocoraptor Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.21 12:17:00 - [352] Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: Crellion Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: patteSatan Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: BlackHorizon Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again. You need one of those disclaimers everyone seems to have in their sig nowadays, or otherwise, it means all your alliance is full of morons I would watch my mouth mr. Ling. As you see I have not a disclaimer but an inclaimer. Feel free to take it up. (Not that I agree with what Patte pots but thats another matter). So is it safe to assume that anything patteSatan says is representative of what his Alliance feels? For an answer to that, check the bold part in crellion's post mate.... But what I rly wanted to say: Our alliance diplomats are FTW!!!111 Subtle, behind-the-scene muppeteers, pulling the strings.... em, yeah Kali IS the goddess of destruction after all
Hithero Wolf Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.21 12:48:00 - [353] Originally by: Airen ***en Edited by: Airen ***en on 17/12/2006 22:39:45 come on...undock we are getting board outside the station :( I am sorry. FIX has since long ago lost the rights to say such things as above. I know what it is like when everybody is teaming up against you. It is fun. Go IAC, unvail them for the lapdogs thye really are Never giv in when people gang up you like that, luagh and enoy it.:D
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 13:32:00 - [354] Originally by: patteSatan Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 21/12/2006 01:58:04 It's cute to see ISS/LV kicking "blues" while they're down. Yet another ASCN ship was destroyed with both LV and ISS prominently on the killmail. Not that I care for ASCN, but ISS are playing an interesting political game. I would stop trying to play such games, considering ASCN has already said, in this very thread, that it is irrelevant as said pilots weren't even supposed to be there. At current the situation is pretty simple though; if people are part of factions that are uninvolved in the situation and they show up, they will end up dying. It's that simple. Go home, everyone has seen your e-peen, now your useless again. Killboard says otherwise. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 13:36:00 - [355] If I'm not mistaken...message to The Enslaver...you said ONLY reason LV is here is because we were "taking ISS stations"...since F4 has fallen and you obviously know that's not true....how about LV go home so we can fight back....at least make this interesting....
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 13:36:00 - [356] Originally by: Silvestri If I'm not mistaken...message to The Enslaver...you said ONLY reason LV is here is because we were "taking ISS stations"...since F4 has fallen and you obviously know that's not true....how about LV go home so we can fight back....at least make this interesting.... The fact that you are -10 to LV and aligned with other -10's might also have a little to do with it. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 13:38:00 - [357] not looking for a response from you...looking for one from The Enslaver..shhhhhhh
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 14:03:00 - [358] Originally by: Silvestri If I'm not mistaken...message to The Enslaver...you said ONLY reason LV is here is because we were "taking ISS stations"...since F4 has fallen and you obviously know that's not true....how about LV go home so we can fight back....at least make this interesting.... I said we are here because you refused to say you wouldn't take ISS stations. That combined with the attitude of some IAC guys over the last couple of days, means we are here for the long haul. --------
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 14:17:00 - [359] Edited by: Seleene on 21/12/2006 14:18:12 Originally by: Silvestri If I'm not mistaken...message to The Enslaver...you said ONLY reason LV is here is because we were "taking ISS stations"...since F4 has fallen and you obviously know that's not true....how about LV go home so we can fight back....at least make this interesting.... So, if LV left it would be a different war, yes? There are no LV Dreads attacking your starbases. There are no LV motherships camping your outposts. Enslaver's Titan has been present for maybe 50% of the POS take downs. At any given time, there may be a couple dozen LV pilots in local, including a few carriers. However, since the first night they came in, LV's presence has been primarily a supporting one. If they left, IAC would still be dealing with almost an identical numbers of dreads, carriers and pilots. How much different would it be? Really? - Fight the Darkness!
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 14:22:00 - [360] Quote: you refused to say you wouldn't take ISS stations. See this is the main point for the thick people out there ...... Welcome to hell IAC, you wanted to be greedy, rob blind the neutral investors of Eve and now you will lose everything. Sux being you, don't it. Hint .... start begging and use lots and lots of Lub
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 15:05:00 - [361] Originally by: Seleene How much different would it be? Really? You know it would, as does anyone who's fought prior to LV+Coalition lapdogs arriving. You wouldn't OWN the battlefield, and your dreadfleet would be less confident. The fact Enslaver's Titan can wipe out PVP fleets, in one swoop on any of your dreads gives you a massive advantage and you know it. You have used this tactic well to your advantage already. Sure, your POS smackdown's etc would still happen, your Capital4Rent fleet would be here still, but you would be ALOT further from absolute domination that you demand right now.
Vando Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 15:15:00 - [362] So it's agreed, LV make no difference so they can leave?
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 15:21:00 - [363] Originally by: Press Officer Quote: you refused to say you wouldn't take ISS stations. See this is the main point for the thick people out there ...... Welcome to hell IAC, you wanted to be greedy, rob blind the neutral investors of Eve and now you will lose everything. Sux being you, don't it. Hint .... start begging and use lots and lots of Lub You know people that have no clue shouldnt post. AT NO POINT DID IAC EVER ATTACK ANY ISS POS OR STATION. FOR 3 DAYS WE HAD FULL ACCCESS TO ISS SPACE SURROUNDING F4 FOR 3 DAYS WE COULD HAVE ATTACKED ANY POS/STATION BUT DID NOT. Everyone thinks we were going to take ISS stations. Yeah our actions should speak loud enough there. As for robbing ISS blind? LOL right. This war only proves what we wanted it to. ISS are not some neutral Alliance. Its all business for them. And Business is most certainly NOT neutral. We wanted to show that the ISS charter is not something that works. It makes ISS just like any other alliance. Not Neutral. Not A Fence Sitter. Press Officer you need to seriously get your fact straight. Oh BTW loved your intial post about IAC planning on taking ISS stations. Seems IAC sure did plan for it. Hey we had weeks to plan for it. 3 Days to make our plans real, and all of the ISS POS destroyed and sovernty attacked proves it.... oh wait we didnt do any of that. Your neutral investors... thats a funny statement. Whatever. IAC will prevail. When a neighbor trys to tell you that he isnt pleased with what you have been doing. Several times he tells you. Hey could you please not do that? And you dont realy listen to him.. YOu nod your head but do nothing. One day your neighbor says. I have told you a dozen times to cut this out, im sorry its come to this. And he punches you in the face. You dont burn down his house because you have a bloody nose. IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. I in no way am an offical rep of IAC. I just say what i think
Tyrian Solteuer Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.21 15:50:00 - [364] I'm baffled that people still try to argue that there is some difference between declaring war, and setting your next door neighbor to red. It also seems quite obvious, and totally acceptable that ISS could not allow an openly hostile entity to screw up business around their outposts when they have god knows how many billions to shell out every month to investors. This was all plainly evident and IAC chose this path anyway. The heart of the issue is that ultimately IAC were the aggressors. Bad blood and smack are one thing, but escalation to shooting comes with a certain price tag. If IAC was bored and needed something to shoot at thats all fine and dandy. We all do that from time to time. What surprises me is that the IAC leadership didn't anticipate this level of response. Choosing sides was easy in this case. IAC openly supported the corps that stabbed us in the back as CC and are openly supporting the RA/GOON/TFC horde. We had a great time shooting at IAC back in the day, but this IAC is a totally different animal than the old IAC. I don't know what happened but something changed. Justice was overdue.
Sir Kad adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:01:00 - [365] Originally by: Vando So it's agreed, LV make no difference so they can leave? But I dont wanna leave! :(
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:03:00 - [366] Edited by: Press Officer on 21/12/2006 16:04:02 Quote: You know people that have no clue shouldnt post. AT NO POINT DID IAC EVER ATTACK ANY ISS POS OR STATION. FOR 3 DAYS WE HAD FULL ACCCESS TO ISS SPACE SURROUNDING F4 FOR 3 DAYS WE COULD HAVE ATTACKED ANY POS/STATION BUT DID NOT. Everyone thinks we were going to take ISS stations. Yeah our actions should speak loud enough there. As for robbing ISS blind? LOL right. This war only proves what we wanted it to. ISS are not some neutral Alliance. Its all business for them. And Business is most certainly NOT neutral. We wanted to show that the ISS charter is not something that works. It makes ISS just like any other alliance. Not Neutral. Not A Fence Sitter. Press Officer you need to seriously get your fact straight. Oh BTW loved your intial post about IAC planning on taking ISS stations. Seems IAC sure did plan for it. Hey we had weeks to plan for it. 3 Days to make our plans real, and all of the ISS POS destroyed and sovernty attacked proves it.... oh wait we didnt do any of that. Your neutral investors... thats a funny statement. Whatever. IAC will prevail. When a neighbor trys to tell you that he isnt pleased with what you have been doing. Several times he tells you. Hey could you please not do that? And you dont realy listen to him.. YOu nod your head but do nothing. One day your neighbor says. I have told you a dozen times to cut this out, im sorry its come to this. And he punches you in the face. You dont burn down his house because you have a bloody nose. IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. I'm sure the IAC need to operate a "Put my foot in it filter" .... No plans to take the ISS stations ........... thats so funny expecially as I was in the intial discussions weeks ago when certain corporations were informed of the plans.... chatlogs are a wounderfull thing but maybe I would be "very very very quite" before you make yourself look really really silly. Also it was stated by your "own leadership" when the ISS clearly asked "will you be attacking POS's" the response back was "that cannot be ruled out" Lets have a little look at the facts ... 1) The IAC declared war on the ISS ........... fact 2) The attack was planned ahead and the outcome was to be a total attack ...... fact (I was in the conversations) 3) The IAC stated that POS's wars are "not" to be ruled out .............. fact IAC statements .......... Fiction
Vando Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:09:00 - [367] Originally by: Press Officer 2) The attack was planned ahead and the outcome was to be a total attack ...... fact (I was in the conversations) Possibly the worst proof of fact I've ever witnessed, well done indeed.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:10:00 - [368] Okies finally caught up with his thread.... IAC are under extreme pressure, they are about to lose thier homelands, I see the same outrageous denial that you always see from an entity in extereme danger of a serious blow being dealt. You should of already arranged peace with ISS, maybe its already too late, maybe not, but I urge you not to doubt the severity of the impact your alliance wil take should your stations fall. Cmon guys, your liked and generally thought of in a good nature, this war was a mistake, ISSs reaction was an obvious one, and you are outgunned. Stop the madness, make a treaty and look forward. Ideas of revenge once the dust has settled are all well and good, but there is little reality in it if your axe is only half the size. Recently another Entity made the mistake of under estimating their opponents, they no longer own their space, do not be another victim of pride. KIA EVE Home
Doc Brown Gallente Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:12:00 - [369] Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer Justice was overdue. Long overdue, payback is sure fun _________________________________________________ Proud member of Tyrell Corp.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:21:00 - [370] Originally by: Doc Brown Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer Justice was overdue. Long overdue, payback is sure fun Bitter some? Funny ... Curse Coalition/TYC spent 10 months griefing IAC, only to have their homes torn from them. Enjoy it guys while you ride the wave.
Cker Heel ISS Logistics Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:32:00 - [371] Originally by: Thundirr AT NO POINT DID IAC EVER ATTACK ANY ISS POS OR STATION. FOR 3 DAYS WE HAD FULL ACCCESS TO ISS SPACE SURROUNDING F4 FOR 3 DAYS WE COULD HAVE ATTACKED ANY POS/STATION BUT DID NOT. Everyone thinks we were going to take ISS stations. Yeah our actions should speak loud enough there. Then why didn't you say so up front that IAC had no intentions to attack ISS stations? Count asked point-blank and was told 'Maybe'. IAC could have simple said "No, we have no desire to take ISS stations". Instead Tyraxx and ns x chose to say "Maybe". ISS acted accordingly.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:38:00 - [372] Originally by: KIAEddZ Okies finally caught up with his thread.... IAC are under extreme pressure, they are about to lose thier homelands, I see the same outrageous denial that you always see from an entity in extereme danger of a serious blow being dealt. You should of already arranged peace with ISS, maybe its already too late, maybe not, but I urge you not to doubt the severity of the impact your alliance wil take should your stations fall. Cmon guys, your liked and generally thought of in a good nature, this war was a mistake, ISSs reaction was an obvious one, and you are outgunned. Stop the madness, make a treaty and look forward. Ideas of revenge once the dust has settled are all well and good, but there is little reality in it if your axe is only half the size. Recently another Entity made the mistake of under estimating their opponents, they no longer own their space, do not be another victim of pride. Eddz, we're actually a diplomatic alliance that responds to it's members requests. The day before LV arrived I said "The storm is coming, here are some options". To my shock, the resounding vote was "Die ISS". In all honesty, you may ask us to lay pride aside but there are some realities here that go far beyond ISS' involvment in this. - Not ONCE has an ISS offical said, that from ISS pockets this has been funded. - MC's involvment will be clarified as some ISS investor, seeking rage and thus won't be called off. - LV and FIX aren't in this for money and will most likely continue a winning streak. Surrendering to ISS means one thing, loss of dignity. The rest will seemingly follow as planned. Until then, we will laugh at James Lyrus eve-mailing every IAC CEO, saying "leave this space under armistace, we will arrange some other place for you to live." We will also laugh at Count's arrogance towards two of IAC's leadership team that sought to discuss some items that needed addressing. I can't remember if count was busy sieging a POS in his Pheonix or assigning fighters to his swarm, but he did basically tell them to 'stop annoying him'. They true lame behaviour of ISS' leaders comes through as they ride the wave of success that they have paid for and should rightfully demand. In the end, it's a comedy of epic proportions that shows both ISS and IAC's weaknesses. Fortunately for IAC there is no shame in being sieged by 8000 pilots worth of alliances and crying no tears.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:48:00 - [373] Quote: Then why didn't you say so up front that IAC had no intentions to attack ISS stations? Count asked point-blank and was told 'Maybe'. IAC could have simple said "No, we have no desire to take ISS stations". Instead Tyraxx and ns x chose to say "Maybe". ISS acted accordingly. Simple they couldn't and now the "forum warriors" are trying to save face when they have totally messed up and things are getting sore .... (BTW KY helps) Some free advice .... keep he IAC "warriors" away from their keyboards, get the IAC leadership to talk to Count Tas and maybe you can save what your bad planning and greed may have lost you.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:52:00 - [374] Quote: Eddz, we're actually a diplomatic alliance that responds to it's members requests. The day before LV arrived I said "The storm is coming, here are some options". To my shock, the resounding vote was "Die ISS". "Die ISS", your true colors finally shine thru ............ now i guess its time the IAC started fighting and less forum waring before they lose everything.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:53:00 - [375] Originally by: Press Officer blah blah blah Whoever you are, you're a lame alt. Post with you main and I will address your questions.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:54:00 - [376] If IAC offered the hand of peace, then ISS would be fools not to accept it, plain n simple. Yes right now IAC are getting btfked, but then they have 4 large entities seiging their territory, for IAC to swallow the defeat now and get through this intact, should be their priority right now. If the arrogance of ISS means they are now looking at IAC under pressure and coveting thier stations.... then they need to rethink where they stand, the tides of power and the tables of pressure can turn in an instant, better to be the man that stood in honour, than the coward that struck out in fear. IAC made a LARGE mistake in the move vs ISS, probably didnt expect such a reaction, and maybe werent really looking for anything more than a fun war, ISS shouldn't make a mistake of similar gravity and snub the hand of peace if offered, public opinion is everything in these matters, isk only has so much power (as we have discussed). KIA EVE Home
Azrael Bierce Cult of Lemen	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:54:00 - [377] Originally by: n sx - MC's involvment will be clarified as some ISS investor, seeking rage and thus won't be called off. It has always been my understanding that ISS has MC on retainer to defend their assets.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:55:00 - [378] Quote: Whoever you are, you're a lame alt. Post with you main and I will address your questions. Valid questions, stop hiding .... or are you going to deny your own statements
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:56:00 - [379] Originally by: Press Officer Quote: Whoever you are, you're a lame alt. Post with you main and I will address your questions. Valid questions, stop hiding .... or are you going to deny your own statements Valid questions they may be, but I will not address a single question from an alt.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:56:00 - [380] Originally by: Azrael Bierce Originally by: n sx - MC's involvment will be clarified as some ISS investor, seeking rage and thus won't be called off. It has always been my understanding that ISS has MC on retainer to defend their assets. Even if they didn't, an appraoch waving a significant amount of isk under Sels nose, will cause an immediate reaction. MC like many of the top guys can be inplace and ready to go in under 24 hrs if the money makes it worth the hassle. I'm guessing this time it was. KIA EVE Home
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:00:00 - [381] I'm not an alt .... look mum I have a corp and I can dance ... So ........ we all agree that ..... the IAC 1) Made a big mistake by attacking a netrual allliance 2) The going to lose F4 if the hostilities continue 3) They need to swallow some pride, admitt they messed up and ask for peace.
Tyrian Solteuer Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:00:00 - [382] Originally by: n sx Originally by: Doc Brown Originally by: Tyrian Solteuer Justice was overdue. Long overdue, payback is sure fun Bitter some? Funny ... Curse Coalition/TYC spent 10 months griefing IAC, only to have their homes torn from them. Enjoy it guys while you ride the wave. We honestly believed that despite our conflict you guys would support us against such obvious backstabbing and honor less actions on the traitor's part. Instead you threw your lot in with them immediately. Even after they infiltrated your alliance too. Bitter? Oh yes. But theres no better salve for it than a little payback on those that really deserve it.
Witch Doctor Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:02:00 - [383] These threads are now getting into legendary territory. I have fully cycled through amusement, irritation, incredulity, disgust, resignation, and apathy and find myself being highly amused again. There are forum lies, and there are the lies behind the lies, and somewhere behind that is the truth. The theme now is "cognitive dissonance". For those in the peanut gallery, I suggest reading through the older threads. There is some very good comedy in there, including some LV baiting where Enslaver was basically told to put up or SFTU. Since LV is now getting total credit for the siege's success, that seems like a colossal blunder. I'm still interested in seeing the endgame here.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:06:00 - [384] Originally by: KIAEddZ If IAC offered the hand of peace, then ISS would be fools not to accept it, plain n simple. Yes right now IAC are getting btfked, but then they have 4 large entities seiging their territory, for IAC to swallow the defeat now and get through this intact, should be their priority right now. If the arrogance of ISS means they are now looking at IAC under pressure and coveting thier stations.... then they need to rethink where they stand, the tides of power and the tables of pressure can turn in an instant, better to be the man that stood in honour, than the coward that struck out in fear. IAC made a LARGE mistake in the move vs ISS, probably didnt expect such a reaction, and maybe werent really looking for anything more than a fun war, ISS shouldn't make a mistake of similar gravity and snub the hand of peace if offered, public opinion is everything in these matters, isk only has so much power (as we have discussed). I think its gone beyond this now. I don't speak in any sort of official capacity, but even if ISS pulled out, I doubt our allies would. ISS are not driving this anymore, it has a momentum of its own. The real question many are now asking, is what to do in the aftermath. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:07:00 - [385] Originally by: KIAEddZ Originally by: Azrael Bierce Originally by: n sx - MC's involvment will be clarified as some ISS investor, seeking rage and thus won't be called off. It has always been my understanding that ISS has MC on retainer to defend their assets. Even if they didn't, an appraoch waving a significant amount of isk under Sels nose, will cause an immediate reaction. MC like many of the top guys can be inplace and ready to go in under 24 hrs if the money makes it worth the hassle. I'm guessing this time it was. Pretty much. The initial strike / deployment of POS was planned and prepared in about 4 hours. I don't think many people within the MC knew anything prior to 4 hours before the first tower started anchoring. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:14:00 - [386] Edited by: maGz on 21/12/2006 17:15:49 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: KIAEddZ If IAC offered the hand of peace, then ISS would be fools not to accept it, plain n simple. Yes right now IAC are getting btfked, but then they have 4 large entities seiging their territory, for IAC to swallow the defeat now and get through this intact, should be their priority right now. If the arrogance of ISS means they are now looking at IAC under pressure and coveting thier stations.... then they need to rethink where they stand, the tides of power and the tables of pressure can turn in an instant, better to be the man that stood in honour, than the coward that struck out in fear. IAC made a LARGE mistake in the move vs ISS, probably didnt expect such a reaction, and maybe werent really looking for anything more than a fun war, ISS shouldn't make a mistake of similar gravity and snub the hand of peace if offered, public opinion is everything in these matters, isk only has so much power (as we have discussed). I think its gone beyond this now. I don't speak in any sort of official capacity, but even if ISS pulled out, I doubt our allies would. ISS are not driving this anymore, it has a momentum of its own. The real question many are now asking, is what to do in the aftermath. Seeing as MC (supposedly) is the dominant force around F4/JBY/G-7 now, it is totally in ISS' hands to stop it (as they have hired MC), should IAC decided to engage in peace talks. In short, your comment holds little merit unless MC obviously wasn't hired, meaning they're doing all of this to protect an investment. ____________ The Priory Killboard
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:17:00 - [387] Originally by: maGz Seeing as MC (supposedly) is the dominant force around F4/JBY/G-7 now, it is totally in ISS' hands to stop it (as they have hired MC), should IAC decided to engage in peace talks. In short, your comment holds little merit unless MC obviously wasn't hired, meaning they're doing all of this to protect an investment. And as neither you nor I are privy to such information, we'll never know. And I doubt anyone will tell us. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:21:00 - [388] Edited by: maGz on 21/12/2006 17:36:10 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: maGz Seeing as MC (supposedly) is the dominant force around F4/JBY/G-7 now, it is totally in ISS' hands to stop it (as they have hired MC), should IAC decided to engage in peace talks. In short, your comment holds little merit unless MC obviously wasn't hired, meaning they're doing all of this to protect an investment. And as neither you nor I are privy to such information, we'll never know. And I doubt anyone will tell us. I agree completely. I was just throwing one out there for the sake of discussion EDIT: Although, in hindsight, I'm not sure such a discussion is suited for this thread, nor for these forums at all due to the flamatory nature of the subject. ____________ The Priory Killboard
Smoking Mirror	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:30:00 - [389] Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 21/12/2006 17:30:33 What do people think ISS should do? What are ISS's options here? What deal, if any, would IAC make that addresses ISS's legitimate security concerns, now that IAC has demonstrated this kind of aggression? How is ISS supposed to trust IAC at this point? What can/should ISS do?
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:36:00 - [390] The ISS should do nothing ... as IAC is the agressor then its up to them to be smart and act.
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:43:00 - [391] Blackhorizon, We go back quite a ways, and i've never agreed with your big mouth or your playstyle. Heres a warning, get over bringing up the two ASCN ship loss in your warzone, and get over it quickly. The pilots have no business up there, they should be down here getting their ships blown up by BoB, and if they are up there, theyre up there on personal business. That has nothing to do with us as an alliance. Now knock it off please, before I fly through the ISS Coaltion blockade and pod you myself.
Megas Alkaia	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:44:00 - [392] Originally by: Witch Doctor The theme now is "cognitive dissonance" QFT.
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:44:00 - [393] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: KIAEddZ If IAC offered the hand of peace, then ISS would be fools not to accept it, plain n simple. Yes right now IAC are getting btfked, but then they have 4 large entities seiging their territory, for IAC to swallow the defeat now and get through this intact, should be their priority right now. If the arrogance of ISS means they are now looking at IAC under pressure and coveting thier stations.... then they need to rethink where they stand, the tides of power and the tables of pressure can turn in an instant, better to be the man that stood in honour, than the coward that struck out in fear. IAC made a LARGE mistake in the move vs ISS, probably didnt expect such a reaction, and maybe werent really looking for anything more than a fun war, ISS shouldn't make a mistake of similar gravity and snub the hand of peace if offered, public opinion is everything in these matters, isk only has so much power (as we have discussed). I think its gone beyond this now. I don't speak in any sort of official capacity, but even if ISS pulled out, I doubt our allies would. ISS are not driving this anymore, it has a momentum of its own. The real question many are now asking, is what to do in the aftermath. yeah i have been wondering that myself what are is gonna happen to the iac stations, i doubt fix/MC/LV would want them , iss might take them, but it might bring out the whole "neutral debate" which i am sure they are sick of. so whats gonna happen to them ? knowledge is power.... guard it well
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:16:00 - [394] Oh for christs sake IAC; stop for a minute. Take a look at the complete and utter mess that Tyrrax has got you into. You think you have the moral high ground? Plain and simply, Tyrrax/n sx had said 'No.' to the question of 'do you intend to attack ISS stations?'. There is no other relevant points to this, because, again, simply, if the answer had been 'No.', then U'K, FIX, and LV wouldn't be here, ensuring that you never get the chance to attack the stations. Which of course, you still haven't ruled out. Don't for one moment think you are in the right, and if you are curious who caused all this, look to your own leaders. Fact is, if one line on IAC's part had been different, this situation wouldn't be happening right now. That's all there is to it. Live with it. --------
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:25:00 - [395] Surrender never, to the death I say, YARR Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Belid Hagen The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:26:00 - [396] Originally by: insanebe yeah i have been wondering that myself what are is gonna happen to the iac stations, i doubt fix/MC/LV would want them , iss might take them, but it might bring out the whole "neutral debate" which i am sure they are sick of. so whats gonna happen to them ? people need to read up on what "neutral" means. being neutral does not mean that we wont defend ourselves. It does however mean, that we wont pew pew you, if you dont pew pew us. its that simple. Pew pew'ing us will provoke a response - the bigger the pew pew'ing, the bigger the response.
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:37:00 - [397] Originally by: Press Officer Edited by: Press Officer on 21/12/2006 16:04:02 Quote: You know people that have no clue shouldnt post. AT NO POINT DID IAC EVER ATTACK ANY ISS POS OR STATION. FOR 3 DAYS WE HAD FULL ACCCESS TO ISS SPACE SURROUNDING F4 FOR 3 DAYS WE COULD HAVE ATTACKED ANY POS/STATION BUT DID NOT. Everyone thinks we were going to take ISS stations. Yeah our actions should speak loud enough there. As for robbing ISS blind? LOL right. This war only proves what we wanted it to. ISS are not some neutral Alliance. Its all business for them. And Business is most certainly NOT neutral. We wanted to show that the ISS charter is not something that works. It makes ISS just like any other alliance. Not Neutral. Not A Fence Sitter. Press Officer you need to seriously get your fact straight. Oh BTW loved your intial post about IAC planning on taking ISS stations. Seems IAC sure did plan for it. Hey we had weeks to plan for it. 3 Days to make our plans real, and all of the ISS POS destroyed and sovernty attacked proves it.... oh wait we didnt do any of that. Your neutral investors... thats a funny statement. Whatever. IAC will prevail. When a neighbor trys to tell you that he isnt pleased with what you have been doing. Several times he tells you. Hey could you please not do that? And you dont realy listen to him.. YOu nod your head but do nothing. One day your neighbor says. I have told you a dozen times to cut this out, im sorry its come to this. And he punches you in the face. You dont burn down his house because you have a bloody nose. IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. I'm sure the IAC need to operate a "Put my foot in it filter" .... No plans to take the ISS stations ........... thats so funny expecially as I was in the intial discussions weeks ago when certain corporations were informed of the plans.... chatlogs are a wounderfull thing but maybe I would be "very very very quite" before you make yourself look really really silly. Also it was stated by your "own leadership" when the ISS clearly asked "will you be attacking POS's" the response back was "that cannot be ruled out" Lets have a little look at the facts ... 1) The IAC declared war on the ISS ........... fact 2) The attack was planned ahead and the outcome was to be a total attack ...... fact (I was in the conversations) 3) The IAC stated that POS's wars are "not" to be ruled out .............. fact IAC statements .......... Fiction PROVE IT. I want to see who you are and i want to see this conversation. Seems you are also in charge of the IAC Capital fleet and know where our cap ships were and what they were doing when this invasion took place. You completely missed the point of my post anyway. IAC Wanted to get the attention of ISS. Play dense if you want to. Play stupid if you want to. Fact remains. IAC DID NOT attack ISS Sovernty. IAC DID NOT move capital ships. ISS Used this as a chance to expand and their friends jumped on board. ISS has played blind to the fact that we never even attempted to go after sov. SO what it was vague but nothing was followed up on. Hey lets act like we are going to get attacked by the omfguberposdestoryers of doom and kill IAC now. (btw no omfguberposdestroyers of doom) ever attacked us.. oh well no biggy. Get off it Press Officer. ISS has been looking down on us since we moved into Catch.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:40:00 - [398] Originally by: Thundirr IAC DID NOT attack ISS Sovernty. IAC DID NOT move capital ships. ISS Used this as a chance to expand and their friends jumped on board. IAC DID threaten to take ISS outposts by refusing to say they wouldn't take them. Sorry, but I just destroyed your post in a single sentence. --------
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:57:00 - [399] Originally by: The Enslaver IAC DID threaten to take ISS outposts by refusing to say they wouldn't take them. Sorry, but I just destroyed your post in a single sentence. So IAC are guilty till proven innocent, unlike ISS who are always innocent till proven guilty Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:00:00 - [400] Quote: IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. If my neighbor punched me in those nose for whatever reason, instead of burning his house down, i'd take him to court and move him out of his house, after I own it. That sounds more like what ISS is doing, they told their shareholders, hey... These guys just assaulted me, I want to hire a lawyer to fight this (MC). LV/FIX/Whoever else are judge and jury, they decided in favor of ISS and are forcing IAC to turn over their assets to ISS. See? Doesn't that fit more accurately? I still wish IAC the best though.
Eskona Runningstar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:12:00 - [401] Originally by: Thundirr (...) ISS has played blind to the fact that we never even attempted to go after sov. SO what it was vague but nothing was followed up on.(...) I guess we will never know if IAC did not attack sovereignty because they didnt want to in the first place, or because they werent able to after ISS went into full-force station protection mode. IAC hinted they might be taking stations, and IAC was capable of taking stations, that is enough of a threat to warrant a preemptive strike to disable IACs ability to strike first. Its a pretty natural reaction that had to be expected. ---------- These are my views and mine alone. They do not represent the official stance of my corporation or alliance in any way. Eskona Runningstar Eve University IVY League
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:29:00 - [402] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: The Enslaver IAC DID threaten to take ISS outposts by refusing to say they wouldn't take them. Sorry, but I just destroyed your post in a single sentence. So IAC are guilty till proven innocent, unlike ISS who are always innocent till proven guilty When someone threatens you with a gun, you don't wait till they pull the trigger before you kick them in the balls Max --------------------
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:32:00 - [403] Originally by: Max Teranous When someone threatens you with a gun, you don't wait till they pull the trigger before you kick them in the balls How dya know it was a gun, they never actually threatened anyone... maybe it was a banana? Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Irrilian Eve University	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:34:00 - [404] Originally by: Sun Zu When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.
Cker Heel ISS Logistics Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:35:00 - [405] Originally by: Thundirr ISS has played blind to the fact that we never even attempted to go after sov. SO what it was vague but nothing was followed up on. Hey lets act like we are going to get attacked by the omfguberposdestoryers of doom and kill IAC now. (btw no omfguberposdestroyers of doom) ever attacked us.. oh well no biggy. At what point would it have been ok for ISS to react? After you set us to -10? After n sx says you "maybe" will attack the outposts? After you bring business to a halt by camping the gates around Marginis and Tycho? What would the appropriate ISS response be in your opinion? ISS assets have to be Rock Solid investments. If you make ISS fear for the safety of those assets, we will spare no expense to ensure those assets will stay safe permanently. People who invest billions of ISK in ISS shares don't expect us to wait to act until the sov pos are being shot down.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:43:00 - [406] Originally by: n sx In all honesty, you may ask us to lay pride aside but there are some realities here that go far beyond ISS' involvment in this. - Not ONCE has an ISS offical said, that from ISS pockets this has been funded. - MC's involvment will be clarified as some ISS investor, seeking rage and thus won't be called off. - LV and FIX aren't in this for money and will most likely continue a winning streak. Looks like you have some concerns here that give you pause in opening talks. ISS is the linchpin, it is their money that hired MC. Realise, that MC is a business as well, like all businesses, satisfying your client is the primary objective. MC's client is ISS... meaning, if ISS asked them to back off, they would back off, and if another ISS investor came along and said 'I have isk, finish the job', who would accept that isk since it would go against the wishes of a client that has provided continious contracts? I don't think there is any worry on that front. I can't and won't speak for LV, but FIX is here with a simple set of objectives... like building ties and strengthening relations with allies. When the job is done, it serves FIX no purpose to stick around, we have no interests in your stations; we have no vested interest in kicking IAC when it's down. If FIX may have any aggression it needed to direct IAC's way, consider that objective as having been met already. Blog
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:43:00 - [407] Originally by: Cyllaina Quote: IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. If my neighbor punched me in those nose for whatever reason, instead of burning his house down, i'd take him to court and move him out of his house, after I own it. That sounds more like what ISS is doing, they told their shareholders, hey... These guys just assaulted me, I want to hire a lawyer to fight this (MC). LV/FIX/Whoever else are judge and jury, they decided in favor of ISS and are forcing IAC to turn over their assets to ISS. See? Doesn't that fit more accurately? I still wish IAC the best though. No what you would get is a lost friend and a unhappy neighbor. And for a simple assault, maybe a small fine. And lets be honest. BD has already stated that thelosses that we inflicted are next to nothing for them. So the bloody nose is actually a bruised shoulder. And the house burning is more of an atomic bomb in your bedroom. Proof of IAC not going after their sovernty is 3 days of No attack on their systems. But still Our point has been proven. Beat us up all you want.
Alice Magnum Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:46:00 - [408] The only thing the IAC is achieving here is making themselves look like the Daniel Jackson of Eve alliances. IAC please control your members your making yourself look silly.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:48:00 - [409] Edited by: Press Officer on 21/12/2006 19:53:24 You own leaders stated "We cannot rule out going after the POS's" So please IAC stop acting thick,were kinda know that already.
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:49:00 - [410] Thundirr, I've talked to Many a IAC member, for I was in the alliance for a couple months and made quite a few friends. IAC and a lot of the people I talk to, KNOW and BELIEVE that IAC is not innocent in this... So my question for you is, Why do you insist on acting as if ISS is being tyrannical and unfair and they are ones who are in the wrong? And to clarify, You don't get fined for punching someone in the face randomly, you go to jail for assault and you get sued for medical bills and all sorts of other small legal loophole claims. Randomly punching someone displays unstable behavior and is a risk to your community. ISS merely considered you to a risk to their neighborhood, which happens to be very high value. So you might want to apply that to what I said previously.
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:52:00 - [411] ... dont you guys think if IAC wanted to take stations they would have done it instantly rather then sitting arround waiting till they got blobbed into oblivion?! ... oh, and ISS's neutrality is a joke ... that reporter guy deserves a couple warnings/a ban for breaking the rules repeately ... iac will prolly lose their stations, own fault ... ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Cyllaina Gallente Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:55:00 - [412] Edited by: Cyllaina on 21/12/2006 19:55:25 I really wish the Priory would sit out of this discussion, not once have I seen anything useful added to the mix here by one of your members. I actually had something useful to say at ONE point during this whole thread.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 19:56:00 - [413] Quote: ... dont you guys think if IAC wanted to take stations they would have done it instantly rather then sitting arround waiting till they got blobbed into oblivion?! ... oh, and ISS's neutrality is a joke ... that reporter guy deserves a couple warnings/a ban for breaking the rules repeately ... iac will prolly lose their stations, own fault ... Nice to see that Priory's only contribution now is the "recorded neutrality rant" Aggressor = IAC Defendant = ISS Please listen, learn and move on.
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:05:00 - [414] Edited by: GO MaZ on 21/12/2006 20:07:27 Originally by: Press Officer Nice to see that Priory's only contribution now is the "recorded neutrality rant" Aggressor = IAC Defendant = ISS Please listen, learn and move on. Please, stop posting. You should know by now priory are an opinionated bunch, we all have different opinions and we all express them in different ways. Some of us are more eloquent, some of us prefer the simpler ways, but NONE of us have resorted to posting with an unidentified alt (apart from when banned, rofl muru) purely for the sake of slinging **** at others and beating our chests. Tarnish us all with the same brush if you will, but please, if you feel the need, have some balls and do it with your main. And if there's one thing that most of us (CAOD users, that is) can agree on, it's that unidentified alts bring very little to the table. Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:12:00 - [415] Can't see Priory beating anythings tbh ......... but nice to see your stiil not adding anything to the arguement. Thats unless you want to magic a defense for IAC agression, thats on the forums as we know that in space your kinda limited at the moment.
Turix Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:21:00 - [416] I think this prooves 1 thing. ISS are rich and cant defend themselves. All i can say for ISS - your the biggest chickens in eve. Eitherway gf to all involved starts probing MC carriers logged on aggro timer that bits always fun ^_^
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:23:00 - [417] Originally by: Press Officer Can't see Priory beating anythings tbh ......... but nice to see your stiil not adding anything to the arguement. Thats unless you want to magic a defense for IAC agression, thats on the forums as we know that in space your kinda limited at the moment. Limited how? This last week and a half has pretty much been the same as a usual priory week. The odd blob passes through, people hide their freighters from us (8 of us, may I add ). We have 2 astonishingly rare, good fights, we continue to smack in local, rat in litom, kill ISS, and pretty much anyone else we see as a viable target. So... limited? hardly. Wait I forgot, we also have been contributing nothing to the forums.. reminds me of a certain Exclamation-faced character Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected])
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 20:39:00 - [418] Originally by: Turix I think this prooves 1 thing. ISS are rich and cant defend themselves. All i can say for ISS - your the biggest chickens in eve. Feel free to come and join the fray. Seeing how we are rich and can't defend ourselves this should be a nice slaughter for you.
Xander Magnus Caldari Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:30:00 - [419] Originally by: Thundirr IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. You're not entirely accurate there, let me help you. You punch ISS in the face, ISS says: 'please don't hurt my wife and children!', you say:'I can't promise you I wont'. And now everyone in IAC is telling: if we DID hurt your wife and children, only THEN were you supposed to kick us in the nuts. I'm getting fed up with these lame excuses and am loosing all respect for IAC. Stop implying ISS wants your outposts after you hinted interest in theirs. If you had offered peace right after the first punches were dealt I'm positive ISS would have accepted it. Now it's probably too late and you're using the forums to try to score some points, but instead now you even lost your honour. I in no way am an offical rep of IAC. I just say what i think
Xander Magnus Caldari Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:31:00 - [420] Originally by: Thundirr IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. I in no way am an offical rep of IAC. I just say what i think You're not entirely accurate there, let me help you. You punch ISS in the face, ISS says: 'please don't hurt my wife and children!', you say:'I can't promise you I wont'. And now everyone in IAC is telling: if we DID hurt your wife and children, only THEN were you supposed to kick us in the nuts. I'm getting fed up with these lame excuses and am loosing all respect for IAC. Stop implying ISS wants your outposts after you hinted interest in theirs. If you had offered peace right after the first punches were dealt I'm positive ISS would have accepted it. Now it's probably too late and you're using the forums to try to score some points, but instead now you even lost your honour.
Bell Morte	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:40:00 - [421] Originally by: Press Officer blah blah blah Quote: Im still waiting for your 'proof' and recorded conversations. I doubt you could post much other then more crap.
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:41:00 - [422] Edited by: Atandros on 21/12/2006 21:41:25 Originally by: Turix I think this prooves 1 thing. ISS are rich and cant defend themselves. All i can say for ISS - your the biggest chickens in eve. ISS are successful, and in Eve, there are only the successful and the eliminated. No other categories matter ultimately. ------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=417590[i]Sun! Sex! Sin! Death and destruction!
Constantinee Caldari PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:42:00 - [423] like zomg 2 hel's a nyx and a titan i see and like 60 carriers sweet jesus good luck iac Want a Cheap sig?
Barrier Solo Solo Ventures	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:47:00 - [424] Originally by: GO MaZ Edited by: GO MaZ on 21/12/2006 20:07:27 Originally by: Press Officer Nice to see that Priory's only contribution now is the "recorded neutrality rant" Aggressor = IAC Defendant = ISS Please listen, learn and move on. Please, stop posting. You should know by now priory are an opinionated bunch, we all have different opinions and we all express them in different ways. Some of us are more eloquent, some of us prefer the simpler ways, but NONE of us have resorted to posting with an unidentified alt (apart from when banned, rofl muru) purely for the sake of slinging **** at others and beating our chests. Tarnish us all with the same brush if you will, but please, if you feel the need, have some balls and do it with your main. And if there's one thing that most of us (CAOD users, that is) can agree on, it's that unidentified alts bring very little to the table. While in the past some of your members posted some stupid comments, generally I find that ISS and Shroud posts, while on opposite sides of the conflict, are entertaining to read. Same goes for FIX and MC. IAC posts, read like something a 14 year old would write - hormone fuelled and ignorant of how to play with other people. And the Alt and non-involved party posts seem fairly ill-informed. ISS was shocked at having to fight IAC; they did a lot of business with them, respected their space and flew alongside them often enough. In terms of alliance goals they seemed to be quite close. IAC management screwed the pooch and are determined to go down looking like fools. Barrier Solo, CEO, INSM, ISS Join us! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadid=402528
Anara Serraph Black Reign Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:47:00 - [425] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Max Teranous When someone threatens you with a gun, you don't wait till they pull the trigger before you kick them in the balls How dya know it was a gun, they never actually threatened anyone... maybe it was a banana? Well then you'd kick them in the balls and eat the banana, thus disarming them P.S I think this thread may be approaching apathy again
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.21 21:48:00 - [426] Yay im a moron, and evidently the single voice of a grunt who has no diplomatic power or any authority reflects the entirety of IAC. Also, ISS are saints... Its just like winning in the special olympics. GL with the forum wars.. its all spin now. Official nobody... i have no power, no say, and thats just about all.
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 22:03:00 - [427] Originally by: Thundirr GL with the forum wars.. its all spin now. yep. anyone who wants to know whats really happening should prolly just go into F4 themselves...bring a friend or 200 though, i hear its blobby this time of year =D
Raier	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:17:00 - [428] Edited by: Raier on 21/12/2006 23:17:01 Grumble alt
Turix Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:17:00 - [429] Edited by: Turix on 21/12/2006 23:19:22 I agree to some extent about people being sucessfull in eve and i have no disput that ISS are, but what i have a problem with is that they seem to need other people to do that. Getting others to do your dirty work, in an eve sense (lets keep IRL out for this if anyone feels like repsonding, im aware that it could be seen differantly in real life), is to be something that shows gthat your a chicken. And to be fair any excuse to shoot at ISS/MC/FIX were else would i be O.o edit- Originally by: Sgt Napalm Originally by: Turix I think this prooves 1 thing. ISS are rich and cant defend themselves. All i can say for ISS - your the biggest chickens in eve. Feel free to come and join the fray. Seeing how we are rich and can't defend ourselves this should be a nice slaughter for you. Well if your so capable - why is all this so called help turned up, in such huge numbers? If you want to proove your worth something do your own dirty work.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:47:00 - [430] Originally by: Turix Edited by: Turix on 21/12/2006 23:19:22 I agree to some extent about people being sucessfull in eve and i have no disput that ISS are, but what i have a problem with is that they seem to need other people to do that. Getting others to do your dirty work, in an eve sense (lets keep IRL out for this if anyone feels like repsonding, im aware that it could be seen differantly in real life), is to be something that shows gthat your a chicken. And to be fair any excuse to shoot at ISS/MC/FIX were else would i be O.o edit- Originally by: Sgt Napalm Originally by: Turix I think this prooves 1 thing. ISS are rich and cant defend themselves. All i can say for ISS - your the biggest chickens in eve. Feel free to come and join the fray. Seeing how we are rich and can't defend ourselves this should be a nice slaughter for you. Well if your so capable - why is all this so called help turned up, in such huge numbers? If you want to proove your worth something do your own dirty work. /raises hand I'm a sucker for give responses to people who ask for them. This isn't about getting someone else to do the fighting for them, or doing their dirty work as you refer to it. IAC brought a knife to a gun fight, because they didn't 'read the rules'. This war isn't about some friendly pew pew going back and forth, and raiding into each others space. IAC threatened the foundations of ISS's business, and there is only one possible response for such a level of agression. Please don't bother stating the variety of excuses (and yes, they are excuses), that have been put forward that IAC wasn't going to do anything to ISS POS's or Outposts. The gloves come off, and ISS brings forth everything they can to bear to achieve their objectives; they can not afford to do anything less. What that immediately implies is bringing maximum force to the theater. This isn't supposed to be a 'fun' war, this is business, and business if you hadn't heard, is cutthroat. ISS do what they do extremely well, yet they are magically expected to be a premier alliance in every facet of Eve, and not just for their financial focus? In a war where things aren't 'fun', you get things done as quickly as it is feasible to do so. Current mechanics give those with numbers an advantage... is any other explanation even needed? Blog
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:48:00 - [431] i honestly can't believe this conversation about who shot who and who attacked outposts whatever blah blah is still going. Point is...ISS hired out and brought in enough people to do it and are getting it done. I think one thing that needs to be clarified though, would be if ISS plans to continue to call themselves a neutral alliance when they are blatantly agressively going after other political entities in eve's assetts. I also think that the continued usage by iss and the parties that represent them of the fact that iac set iss to -10 as the catalyst for near immediate effecting of a VERY large force being brought in to take iac's space is belittling to the intelligence of the eve community.....this is something ISS already have had on thier mind and were just waiting for the proper opportunity politically to make it happen. I can understand and respect an alliance being nuetral, claiming neutrality and defending themselves when attacked, HOWEVER, i don't think you can continue to make that claim when you blatantly go on the offensive.......take switzerland, say someone said....."ok...we don't like switzerland, if we see swiss in the street we are going to shoot holes in thier cheese". Now the swiss take action and defend thier homeland, great...well done switzerland....BUT, if they take thier "army" plus 20 million hired chinese people into the country of the people who said they didn't like them......they are NO LONGER a neutral entity. So, i hope that in the future those claims are not made since it's much more respect inducing to simply tell the truth rather than trying to continue to maintain some foregone "image"...man up to what your doing and who you really are....
Breaka The Clearwater Society	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:53:00 - [432] If you set someone to -10 and don't rule out infrastructure attacks...you can't really cry when they make sure it doesn't happen by going on the offensive. Quit whining. Start "shoosting".
Rhen Caldari Swedish Aerospace Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:01:00 - [433] Of course they can be neutral, to other parties. You have no point, since you cant be neutral to a agressor, A hits B in the face A cant be neutral to B 'cos A is now involved in a conflict whith B... A can still be neutral to C though... Just making conversation.
Raier	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:02:00 - [434] Edited by: Raier on 22/12/2006 00:02:22 Grumble alt again
Turix Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:03:00 - [435] Edited by: Turix on 22/12/2006 00:05:38 Originally by: Avernus Originally by: Turix Edited by: Turix on 21/12/2006 23:19:22 I agree to some extent about people being sucessfull in eve and i have no disput that ISS are, but what i have a problem with is that they seem to need other people to do that. Getting others to do your dirty work, in an eve sense (lets keep IRL out for this if anyone feels like repsonding, im aware that it could be seen differantly in real life), is to be something that shows gthat your a chicken. And to be fair any excuse to shoot at ISS/MC/FIX were else would i be O.o edit- Originally by: Sgt Napalm Originally by: Turix I think this prooves 1 thing. ISS are rich and cant defend themselves. All i can say for ISS - your the biggest chickens in eve. Feel free to come and join the fray. Seeing how we are rich and can't defend ourselves this should be a nice slaughter for you. Well if your so capable - why is all this so called help turned up, in such huge numbers? If you want to proove your worth something do your own dirty work. /raises hand I'm a sucker for give responses to people who ask for them. This isn't about getting someone else to do the fighting for them, or doing their dirty work as you refer to it. IAC brought a knife to a gun fight, because they didn't 'read the rules'. This war isn't about some friendly pew pew going back and forth, and raiding into each others space. IAC threatened the foundations of ISS's business, and there is only one possible response for such a level of agression. Please don't bother stating the variety of excuses (and yes, they are excuses), that have been put forward that IAC wasn't going to do anything to ISS POS's or Outposts. The gloves come off, and ISS brings forth everything they can to bear to achieve their objectives; they can not afford to do anything less. What that immediately implies is bringing maximum force to the theater. This isn't supposed to be a 'fun' war, this is business, and business if you hadn't heard, is cutthroat. ISS do what they do extremely well, yet they are magically expected to be a premier alliance in every facet of Eve, and not just for their financial focus? In a war where things aren't 'fun', you get things done as quickly as it is feasible to do so. Current mechanics give those with numbers an advantage... is any other explanation even needed? Well its a game - if your not having 'fun' in a game why are you playing it? Why play it and try to make it not 'fun'? Getting thing done as you say is trivialising pvp, i mean really is blobing someone 250 vs 10 in local fun for you, is it worth you paying and playing a game? The best pvp is 1v1 or 10v10 or hell almost any equal numbers. Remember this fight (to any fix / ex fix memberS) <--Me--> That was even numbers or near enough it was around 60-70 vs 60-70 (it was while back cant be accurate) - and if you remeber it was a ******* awesome fight, hell read some of the stuff in local. If that had been 250 vs 50 - local would be empty/ full of hate/spite. Sorry that was off track but sorta put some point over i hope I have no problem with ISS and IAC fighting, id have no problem if they had bought 1 "friend" i use that term lightly, into the fight but 2 set of merc and 3 resonably sized alliances aswell, its overkill and as i put above trivialising pvp in eve. Now i probably made no sense at all above, as is what happens when i post, but i hope some point was made.
Xander Magnus Caldari Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:07:00 - [436] Originally by: Marovinchian i honestly can't believe this conversation about who shot who and who attacked outposts whatever blah blah is still going. Point is...ISS hired out and brought in enough people to do it and are getting it done. I think one thing that needs to be clarified though, would be if ISS plans to continue to call themselves a neutral alliance when they are blatantly agressively going after other political entities in eve's assetts. I also think that the continued usage by iss and the parties that represent them of the fact that iac set iss to -10 as the catalyst for near immediate effecting of a VERY large force being brought in to take iac's space is belittling to the intelligence of the eve community.....this is something ISS already have had on thier mind and were just waiting for the proper opportunity politically to make it happen. I can understand and respect an alliance being nuetral, claiming neutrality and defending themselves when attacked, HOWEVER, i don't think you can continue to make that claim when you blatantly go on the offensive.......take switzerland, say someone said....."ok...we don't like switzerland, if we see swiss in the street we are going to shoot holes in thier cheese". Now the swiss take action and defend thier homeland, great...well done switzerland....BUT, if they take thier "army" plus 20 million hired chinese people into the country of the people who said they didn't like them......they are NO LONGER a neutral entity. So, i hope that in the future those claims are not made since it's much more respect inducing to simply tell the truth rather than trying to continue to maintain some foregone "image"...man up to what your doing and who you really are.... Thank god they already changed their charter and this whole response can be ignored. However, I find it funny you say: 'i honestly can't believe this conversation about who shot who and who attacked outposts whatever blah blah is still going' and then you start on the topic as well... What your saying is that switzerland should simply accept being invaded and shot at, fight back but at the border say: 'ho! wait a minute, we're neutral, no crossing the border people!'. When someone attacks you neutral is no longer an issue, didn't you learn about the WW's at school? Every 'neutral' country that got invaded fought back, also on enemy turf. Why did I respond to this? ISS changed their charter, they no longer claim to be neutral because of people giving every possible interpretation of the word as they see fit..
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:15:00 - [437] people are so rediculously stupid in eve
Xander Magnus Caldari Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:19:00 - [438] Originally by: Marovinchian people are so rediculously stupid in eve It's funny how people resort to slander when they lost the argument.
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:20:00 - [439] Edited by: Marovinchian on 22/12/2006 00:22:19 lol....ive lost nothing to you other than my need for any conversation with a nobody...thank you for your intelligent and witty remarks and i apologize for not making the effort to constantly read iss's charter.... or should being a ceo of a 1 man corp that says "friendly to iss" make me tremble and quake at the thought of you trying to contradict me on the forums.
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:24:00 - [440] Originally by: Xander Magnus Originally by: Thundirr IAC Tried to tell ISS they werent happy. We tried several times. When we got fed up we punched ISS in the face because nothing else was working. Now ISS is attempting to burn down our house. Thats what ISS is doing to its neighbor. Instead of trying to work out differences they are going for burning down the house. Grats ISS. GL to you. And thanks for proving our point. You're not entirely accurate there, let me help you. You punch ISS in the face, ISS says: 'please don't hurt my wife and children!', you say:'I can't promise you I wont'. And now everyone in IAC is telling: if we DID hurt your wife and children, only THEN were you supposed to kick us in the nuts. I'm getting fed up with these lame excuses and am loosing all respect for IAC. Stop implying ISS wants your outposts after you hinted interest in theirs. If you had offered peace right after the first punches were dealt I'm positive ISS would have accepted it. Now it's probably too late and you're using the forums to try to score some points, but instead now you even lost your honour. I in no way am an offical rep of IAC. I just say what i think Please avoid changing my statements. Thanks
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:26:00 - [441] oh, and in response to your attempt at using history to contradict me....how many of those countries who WERE neutral...still claim nuetrality or do so while living on land they took from someone else?
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:32:00 - [442] Originally by: Marovinchian i honestly can't believe this conversation about who shot who and who attacked outposts whatever blah blah is still going. Point is...ISS hired out and brought in enough people to do it and are getting it done. I think one thing that needs to be clarified though, would be if ISS plans to continue to call themselves a neutral alliance when they are blatantly agressively going after other political entities in eve's assetts. I also think that the continued usage by iss and the parties that represent them of the fact that iac set iss to -10 as the catalyst for near immediate effecting of a VERY large force being brought in to take iac's space is belittling to the intelligence of the eve community.....this is something ISS already have had on thier mind and were just waiting for the proper opportunity politically to make it happen. This just about sums it up.
spoon2 Slacker Industries	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:35:00 - [443] Interesting it looks like its getting more interesting for all involved, I see AAA joining the fight from the IAC side on the killboards. Lets hope the nodes hold up have fun.
Xander Magnus Caldari Wolf Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:50:00 - [444] Originally by: Marovinchian Edited by: Marovinchian on 22/12/2006 00:22:19 lol....ive lost nothing to you other than my need for any conversation with a nobody... I'm sorry if I have offended you in some way, that was not my intention. I will take you up on this one and try to leave these threads alone. The arguments are clear now and going in a circle, everyone is able to make up their own mind about the conflict with all the arguments that have been stated on these forums. Good luck to everyone, just try to keep in mind that love is the answer in the end :D
Imode Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:58:00 - [445] Originally by: Turix Well its a game - if your not having 'fun' in a game why are you playing it? Why play it and try to make it not 'fun'? Getting thing done as you say is trivialising pvp, i mean really is blobing someone 250 vs 10 in local fun for you, is it worth you paying and playing a game? The best pvp is 1v1 or 10v10 or hell almost any equal numbers. Remember this fight (to any fix / ex fix memberS) <--Me--> That was even numbers or near enough it was around 60-70 vs 60-70 (it was while back cant be accurate) - and if you remeber it was a ******* awesome fight, hell read some of the stuff in local. If that had been 250 vs 50 - local would be empty/ full of hate/spite. Sorry that was off track but sorta put some point over i hope I have no problem with ISS and IAC fighting, id have no problem if they had bought 1 "friend" i use that term lightly, into the fight but 2 set of merc and 3 resonably sized alliances aswell, its overkill and as i put above trivialising pvp in eve. Now i probably made no sense at all above, as is what happens when i post, but i hope some point was made. What you said makes complete sense, Turix. It's always the even fights, whether you win or lose, that always provide the most excitement. But you have forgotten a few things. In the entire Catch/Querious conflict, there weren't many fights like this because you did exactly what you claim is not fun. You rolled 250 man squads into our systems and just sat there with us unable to mount any sort of capable way to counter your numbers. FIX could have fought, but it would have been slaughter. What used to be just SA versus FIX turned into SA/Smash/Vox/Huzzah/Imperium/Fountain/TSDS/Omega Corp versus FIX-- at which point fun was thrown out the window. As for the gang bang versus IAC, we look to the previous conflict for the answer. The McFIX coalition seemingly had the upper hand conducting a blitzkrieg strike in G7 putting all the pos's into reinforced. We didn't count on a few things. First was the ungodly amount of Strontium in the towers. Second, the movement of most of IAC's assets into a second Outpost in F4R setup just a day or two prior, and third and most importantly, the amount of external support IAC was able to muster. Taking that into account as well as IAC's new alliance with the Red Alliance and Goonswarm, numbers should be even, possibly even tipped in IAC's hand. While there have been some Goonswarm squads moving into the area, the support never really materialized on IAC's side, and we were left with the appearance of a one sided slaughter... until now. No doubt that in a few days we will truly see how much support is on IAC's side. ____________________________ my sig
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:48:00 - [446] Originally by: nickky01 how long is MC/FIX/LV/someonecomeupwithfunnynamesfortheseguys U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webshosting
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:57:00 - [447] Originally by: Szprinkoth Sponsz Well this surely is a bad time for my corp to disband and leave ISS :cry: never try to be on the winners side. be loyal to your side whichever that is, and everybodys respect is yours. U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webshosting
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:59:00 - [448] Quote: I have no problem with ISS and IAC fighting, id have no problem if they had bought 1 "friend" i use that term lightly, into the fight but 2 set of merc and 3 resonably sized alliances aswell, its overkill and as i put above trivialising pvp in eve. Then I suggest you don't attack a "Industry based alliance" with deep pockets backed by 1000's of shareholders all in there own alliances.
Halafian The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.22 14:49:00 - [449] Originally by: Thundirr Originally by: Marovinchian i honestly can't believe this conversation about who shot who and who attacked outposts whatever blah blah is still going. Point is...ISS hired out and brought in enough people to do it and are getting it done. I think one thing that needs to be clarified though, would be if ISS plans to continue to call themselves a neutral alliance when they are blatantly agressively going after other political entities in eve's assetts. I also think that the continued usage by iss and the parties that represent them of the fact that iac set iss to -10 as the catalyst for near immediate effecting of a VERY large force being brought in to take iac's space is belittling to the intelligence of the eve community.....this is something ISS already have had on thier mind and were just waiting for the proper opportunity politically to make it happen. This just about sums it up. Errr...you're both over-looking that little bitty detail where hundreds of IAC pilots and their pirate allies invaded ISS outpost systems, while IAC leadership, both here and in direct conversation, continued to threaten ISS outposts. Little details like invasions and threats are actually sometimes relevant.
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.12.22 15:33:00 - [450] This is a case of someone not backing down. It seems ISS was serious in their diplomatic conversations with IAC, and IAC did not take the talks seriously. That kind of behavior is not very trust engendering in a nabour - so ISS, with the blessing of its share holders, decided to protect their assets. The debate is whether that was preemptive or not. If it was, then ISS may have jumped the gun, but it seems from reading the posts that IAC was preparing for a large scale assult, and this is why the talks were never taken seriously. If it was not, and it is possible that the first shots were fired from IACs side, then ISSs response is perfectly valid. When people read 'neutral' as 'passive' they have missed the essential nature of neutrality. Neutral means, ISS will not become involved in the large scale operations of other allainces unless it protects their assets. Thats all neutral means. And with a remarkably good record, ISS has done just this - remained neutral while the rest of the south is racked with wars. So IAC wanted a piece of ISS, and ISS is going to make sure IAC will not be in a position to bargan for a long time to come. This is an investment by ISS, and with no ill will to IAC (who are fine people and good pilots), ISS will drop as much money as is needed to nullify you. We all see it as the smart thing to do, I see no reason for anyone arguing about it. Now, lets see how much IAC will be able to salvage from this dire situation.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.23 06:06:00 - [451] Politics > ISK http://eve.klaki.net/
Great Infiltrator Amarr The Bothan Network	Posted - 2006.12.23 07:23:00 - [452] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Politics > ISK Yeah, politics with the Reds? You have dug a hole that you will never get out of by allying with exploiters.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.23 08:50:00 - [453] Originally by: Great Infiltrator Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Politics > ISK Yeah, politics with the Reds? You have dug a hole that you will never get out of by allying with exploiters. Proof or STFU! ____________ The Priory Killboard
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.23 10:39:00 - [454] Originally by: Great Infiltrator Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Politics > ISK Yeah, politics with the Reds? You have dug a hole that you will never get out of by allying with exploiters. If you have a problem with AAA why don't you get into a ship, put on some guns, make sure to load some ammo ( this is very important ), maybe toss on some tanking gear and then go shoot them and not dirty up the forums with your name calling. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.23 12:26:00 - [455] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Great Infiltrator Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Politics > ISK Yeah, politics with the Reds? You have dug a hole that you will never get out of by allying with exploiters. If you have a problem with AAA why don't you get into a ship, put on some guns, make sure to load some ammo ( this is very important ), maybe toss on some tanking gear and then go shoot them and not dirty up the forums with your name calling. As I recall, you guys had problems with AAA, before you got so desperate in your own mess you 'changed your mind' about them. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations	Posted - 2006.12.23 13:28:00 - [456] Edited by: Serenity Steele on 23/12/2006 13:28:32 hehe nm. New ISS IPO Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 14:13:00 - [457] I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.23 15:00:00 - [458] Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused ISS need to clear that up right now. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.23 15:09:00 - [459] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused ISS need to clear that up right now. I think thats a mistake. Maelstrom show as blue on my overview. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
DrDevice The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.23 15:16:00 - [460] Edited by: DrDevice on 23/12/2006 15:16:45 Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused well, from what i heard a group of maelstrom people engaged a group of mc in kdf, or zxic or somwhere, got pwned, and the rest as they say was history. I might be wrong, of course, its not called the devils radio for nothing
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.23 15:33:00 - [461] Edited by: nickky01 on 23/12/2006 15:33:52 stupid forums ate my post
Entilzah Valen Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.23 15:57:00 - [462] Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 23/12/2006 16:01:41 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused ISS need to clear that up right now. One again, OVEREACTION. Typically before you bring something up you should know about the piece of equipment your talking about. This is what you failed to do Mr. Maelstrom. The killboard is set to accept campaign killmails based on kills taken in the area of conflict in this case, and it will automatically parse and create new targets in the campaign section. http://www.bdci-eve.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23912 Only loss sustained by Maelstrom in this conflict. The rest of the killboard activity for Maelstrom is assisting participations. Likely because you were called a target by a FIX FC, because your guys have wonderful problems with saying your setting standings and then we come to find out they aren't set (I think this is like the 4th time) So from FIX to you: "Batteries Release" EDIT: Yup, wrong place wrong time for you, just look at the related kills. _________________________________________________________
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:03:00 - [463] Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 23/12/2006 16:01:41 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused ISS need to clear that up right now. One again, OVEREACTION. Typically before you bring something up you should know about the piece of equipment your talking about. This is what you failed to do Mr. Maelstrom. The killboard is set to accept campaign killmails based on kills taken in the area of conflict in this case, and it will automatically parse and create new targets in the campaign section. http://www.bdci-eve.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23912 Only loss sustained by Maelstrom in this conflict. The rest of the killboard activity for Maelstrom is assisting participations. Likely because you were called a target by a FIX FC, because your guys have wonderful problems with saying your setting standings and then we come to find out they aren't set (I think this is like the 4th time) So from FIX to you: "Batteries Release" EDIT: Yup, wrong place wrong time for you, just look at the related kills. I don't automatically know how killboards work, any more than I know how a plane works - doesnt stop me using them. Posting on here isn't an overreaction, it's the only way to get an answer, as contacting people in MC so far hasn't worked. And when a single FRICK pilot comes into MY space to shoot my people, that's not an overview problem, is it? _
Entilzah Valen Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:09:00 - [464] Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 23/12/2006 16:10:17 Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 23/12/2006 16:01:41 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused ISS need to clear that up right now. One again, OVEREACTION. Typically before you bring something up you should know about the piece of equipment your talking about. This is what you failed to do Mr. Maelstrom. The killboard is set to accept campaign killmails based on kills taken in the area of conflict in this case, and it will automatically parse and create new targets in the campaign section. http://www.bdci-eve.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23912 Only loss sustained by Maelstrom in this conflict. The rest of the killboard activity for Maelstrom is assisting participations. Likely because you were called a target by a FIX FC, because your guys have wonderful problems with saying your setting standings and then we come to find out they aren't set (I think this is like the 4th time) So from FIX to you: "Batteries Release" EDIT: Yup, wrong place wrong time for you, just look at the related kills. I don't automatically know how killboards work, any more than I know how a plane works - doesnt stop me using them. Posting on here isn't an overreaction, it's the only way to get an answer, as contacting people in MC so far hasn't worked. And when a single FRICK pilot comes into MY space to shoot my people, that's not an overview problem, is it? Theres this wonderful tool called EVEmail. You can use it to gather information via official channels. If a FRICK pilot went ape**** in your space, I suggest someone from your side gets with someone from MC and asks them wtf is going on. And you need to talk to the right people. _________________________________________________________
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:11:00 - [465] Why such hostily from a blue? I'm having issues with MC, i'm trying to contact them, and if the forums aint a way of contacting them, then things are awry. _
Entilzah Valen Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:15:00 - [466] Originally by: Sergio Ling Why such hostily from a blue? I'm having issues with MC, i'm trying to contact them, and if the forums aint a way of contacting them, then things are awry. I'm blue? OMG its a frickin' miracle! You guys finally found out how to set standings after we talk with the right people thirty times. Get it now? _________________________________________________________
Royaldo Old Farts Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:05:00 - [467] Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 23/12/2006 16:10:17 Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: Entilzah Valen Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 23/12/2006 16:01:41 Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Sergio Ling I've not really been overly paying attention, and i've not gone within five jumps of the conflict, but I was told (as a local resident who has both IAC and ISS set to blue) to 'stay away from the warzone, cos stuff happens. Which I can understand, there's mixed fleets on both sides, so we stay away. Those that don't, die, and it's their own fault. But I'm concerned about two things with MC in this conflict. One - You have pilots coming into OUR space, shooting our pilots. This is away from the F4R general area Two - According to this you have Maelstrom set as targets of this campaign. Seleene said we weren't targets, yet we are? and why are we? because we have IAC to blue? I'm confused ISS need to clear that up right now. One again, OVEREACTION. Typically before you bring something up you should know about the piece of equipment your talking about. This is what you failed to do Mr. Maelstrom. The killboard is set to accept campaign killmails based on kills taken in the area of conflict in this case, and it will automatically parse and create new targets in the campaign section. http://www.bdci-eve.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23912 Only loss sustained by Maelstrom in this conflict. The rest of the killboard activity for Maelstrom is assisting participations. Likely because you were called a target by a FIX FC, because your guys have wonderful problems with saying your setting standings and then we come to find out they aren't set (I think this is like the 4th time) So from FIX to you: "Batteries Release" EDIT: Yup, wrong place wrong time for you, just look at the related kills. I don't automatically know how killboards work, any more than I know how a plane works - doesnt stop me using them. Posting on here isn't an overreaction, it's the only way to get an answer, as contacting people in MC so far hasn't worked. And when a single FRICK pilot comes into MY space to shoot my people, that's not an overview problem, is it? Theres this wonderful tool called EVEmail. You can use it to gather information via official channels. If a FRICK pilot went ape**** in your space, I suggest someone from your side gets with someone from MC and asks them wtf is going on. And you need to talk to the right people. omg same goes for you.... evemail and all, cept he might follow up on hes mails unlike you..
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:17:00 - [468] Edited by: patteSatan on 23/12/2006 17:19:50 Originally by: Cker Heel Originally by: Thundirr AT NO POINT DID IAC EVER ATTACK ANY ISS POS OR STATION. FOR 3 DAYS WE HAD FULL ACCCESS TO ISS SPACE SURROUNDING F4 FOR 3 DAYS WE COULD HAVE ATTACKED ANY POS/STATION BUT DID NOT. Everyone thinks we were going to take ISS stations. Yeah our actions should speak loud enough there. Then why didn't you say so up front that IAC had no intentions to attack ISS stations? Count asked point-blank and was told 'Maybe'. IAC could have simple said "No, we have no desire to take ISS stations". Instead Tyraxx and ns x chose to say "Maybe". ISS acted accordingly. ISS acted as weird as always you mean? I wish my alliance would wardecc ISS again. then again, I dont need a wardecc to shoot ISS. Check you killboard, lol
Clipparius ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:00:00 - [469] I have checked the killboards. Do you mean the Dominix that you and 9 others were involved in killing in the last week, or the 3 kills you were involved in whilst blue to ISS in March?

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