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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:04:01 -
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Hello fellow Capsuleers! CCP Terminus here to share some design stats for the new T2 Expedition Frigate. As some of you may know from the Evesterdam presentation by CCP Foxfour, this new frigate will be focusing on ice mining in the far reaches of New Eden. We think it will give a chance for the more adventurous miners out there to explore and mining valuable ice in places they havenGÇÖt had a chance to before, such as shattered wormholes and null-sec. So without further ado, here are the stats:
Discovery
Expedition Frigates bonuses (per skill level):
- 5% reduction to Ice Harvesting duration
- 4% bonus to all shield resistances
Mining Frigate bonuses (per skill level):
- 5% reduction to Ice Harvesting duration
- 5% bonus to Mining yield
Role Bonuses:
- 200% bonus to Mining yield
- 50% reduction to Ice Harvesting duration
- 50% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
- Cloak reactivation delay and targeting delay reduced to 5 seconds
- No penalty to ship max velocity when using Cloaking Devices
Slot layout: 3 H, 4 M, 3 L, 1 Turret 2 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration Fittings: 40 PWG, 280 CPU Defense (shields / armour / hull): 1100 / 400 / 500 Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 50 / 40 / 20 Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 60 / 10 / 25 / 35 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 300 / 125s / 2.4 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / warp speed / align time): 420 / 2.4 / 1,600,000 / 5.5 / 5.32s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 15 / 30 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 20km / 750 / 4 Sensor strength: 10 Magnetometric Signature radius: 40 Cargo capacity (cargo / ore): 200 / 15000
The Discovery will also be able to fit one of three new frigate sized Ice Mining Lasers, which can only be fitted to expedition frigates. They have the following stats:
Ice Mining Laser I Skill Requirements: Mining IV, Ice Harvesting I Fittings: 5 PWG, 50 CPU Activation Cost: 10 GJ Optimal Range: 7 Km Duration: 360s Mining Amount: 1000 m3
Ice Mining Laser II Skill Requirements: Mining IV, Ice Harvesting V Fittings: 6 PWG, 60 CPU Activation Cost: 15 GJ Optimal Range: 8 Km Duration: 330s Mining Amount: 1000 m3
ORE Ice Mining Laser Skill Requirements: Mining IV, Ice Harvesting I Fittings: 6 PWG, 60 CPU Activation Cost: 15 GJ Optimal Range: 11 Km Duration: 330s Mining Amount: 1000 m3
Some notes:
- The Discovery mines ice slightly slower than mining barges, but mines individual blocks at a rapid pace with all its duration reductions.
- Standard ore mining in a Discovery will be about as fast as a Venture due to the 200% role bonus to mining yield, but will be slower than a Prospect.
- While the Prospect can fit the new Ice Mining Laser modules, and has an extra turret slot to fit two, it is still much slower at mining ice than the Discovery, and will require more trips back due to the smaller ore bay.
- The Discovery cannot fit covert ops cloaking devices, though it does get bonuses and penalty reductions to fitting regular ones.
- The Discovery and Prospect will be the only ship capable of mining ice from the frigate only Shattered Wormholes.
- WeGÇÖre hoping the Discovery works well for ninja mining the more valuable ice from null-sec. With its speed, shield tanking, and cloaking bonuses players should be able to make runs into null-sec for some of the crunchier ice.
PS. Check for an update from Seagull later today on more stuff that's upcoming from us
@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters
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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:04:45 -
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Reserved for Clarifications additional comments
@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters
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Selto Black
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:19:29 -
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I like this, however, it does put a bit of a skill wall up for younger players who wish to gather resources under hostile conditions. |
MuraSaki Siki
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
64
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:20:38 -
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when does Discovering plan to ship?
EDIT : oh i see the update in heading |
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
919
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:21:51 -
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The powercreep has now arrived in the ice belts aswell.
RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1829
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:51:01 -
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beware ninja ice miners!
@ChainsawPlankto
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Laenatus
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:53:56 -
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Neat. When is this going to be on sisi? :x |
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:54:14 -
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Why can't the Venture fit the new ice miners? |
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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:55:44 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:Why can't the Venture fit the new ice miners? You have to be part of the cool club to mine ice of course. i.e train for 8 days into a mining barge
@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters
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Jiulia
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:57:55 -
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To bad you are not announcing upgrades for the rorqual. |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:58:33 -
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the actual question is: what color is it?
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Laetitia Nzero
Southern Cross Incorporated Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2015.10.02 17:59:38 -
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What colour will it be? |
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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:00:01 -
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Bienator II wrote:the actual question is: what color is it?
Laetitia Nzero wrote:What colour will it be? lol, art has the final say but I'm hoping for something icy
@CCP_Terminus // Game Designer // Team Size Matters
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Laenatus
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:01:34 -
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Anyone wanna guess what isk/hour you could make with one of these in null? |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1780
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:03:23 -
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Selto Black wrote:I like this, however, it does put a bit of a skill wall up for younger players who wish to gather resources under hostile conditions.
No, it does not. They can still attempt the same thing in cheap ships.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
521
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:04:31 -
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What size FW plex gate restrictions will it have (if any)? |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1780
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:05:20 -
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I like the idea. I'm sure it will have some use for WH folks, but I have yet to ever see someone ninja mining ores in null sec - gas, yes - but not ores. Not sure ninja ice mining will ever be a thing.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
1979
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:19:54 -
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The two utility highs on the Discovery are very interesting.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1780
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:31:28 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:What size FW plex gate restrictions will it have (if any)?
I like the cut of your jib.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
1979
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:36:39 -
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Will there be a Small Ice Harvesting Accelerator rig?
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Ransu Asanari
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
361
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:46:11 -
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The Prospect with the Covert Ops Cloaking Device makes a great hotdrop vehicle, as well as a way to ninja booster gas in Nullsec.
Having the Discovery not able to use a covert cloak, but have better tank and ability to store more ore makes it a more focused, dedicated ore/ice mining ship.
A unique feature for the Discovery over the Prospect would be to have an auto-compression ore/ice bay, to reduce the size of the collected ore. Ice is so bulky that getting 15 blocks and having to go back to drop off means you're going to spend a lot of time just warping back to your home system or wormhole gate to gate. Adding this would mean much less trips back, but you are still exposed since you can't warp while cloaked. |
PhilKenSebben
much shell such corp
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:46:42 -
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Querns wrote:The two utility highs on the Discovery are very interesting.
more like one, no reason to not fit a cloak to this ever with that kind of role bonus |
Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:54:47 -
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Me personally I like this... It really helps the Frigate sized hulls.
And in which - they fill a role.
But, i'm still waiting for my BS sized Mining ship, and this sort of helps lead to that point (just make sure the base price is about 750 million to one billion ISK)
xoxo
Amarisen Gream
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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2015.10.02 18:56:37 -
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Hellooooooo Shattered Ice Fields! I look forward to losing these in Thera!
Planning a trip to Thera? Check out http://eve-scout.com/ for a list of the current connections.
Once you've made your choice, join the EvE-Scout channel and request a scout to make sure your connection is clear!
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Harkin Issier
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:09:16 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Selto Black wrote:I like this, however, it does put a bit of a skill wall up for younger players who wish to gather resources under hostile conditions. No, it does not. They can still attempt the same thing in cheap ships.
To which cheap ships are you referring? The Venture can't fit these new modules. Barges can't fit through frigate-sized WHs. On release, there will be exactly two hulls which can utilize the new ice harvesting modules, both of which are T2. |
Ransu Asanari
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
361
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:16:43 -
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I agree- I don't see why the Venture shouldn't be able to fit these small ice harvesting lasers. It doesn't have any bonuses to ice harvesting, and only a 5000m3 cargobay, so it will be extremely inefficient compared to the Prospect/Discovery, but for a very new player at least it would let them participate during group ice mining operations without requiring a Mining Barge. The main thing here is to make sure they are not excluded from participating because of their low SP. |
Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:27:39 -
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CCP Terminus wrote: P.S Keep an eye out for an announcement later today from CCP Seagull who will be going over some upcoming features, as well as more announcements in the weeks leading up to EVE Vegas.
When you say "later today" and its already well past working hours in Iceland...
Read and support:
Don't mess with OUR WH's
What is Your stance on WH stuff?
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Strata Maslav
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:29:15 -
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Ransu Asanari wrote:I agree- I don't see why the Venture shouldn't be able to fit these small ice harvesting lasers. It doesn't have any bonuses to ice harvesting, and only a 5000m3 cargobay, so it will be extremely inefficient compared to the Prospect/Discovery, but for a very new player at least it would let them participate during group ice mining operations without requiring a Mining Barge. The main thing here is to make sure they are not excluded from participating because of their low SP.
I agree, even though from my perspective barges have a low SP ceiling there doesn't seem to be enough justification to stop the venture from using the new Ice mining lasers.
We should stay clear of artificially limited modules, otherwise we will miss out on players finding interesting interactions. |
Ransu Asanari
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
362
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:31:49 -
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The main thing here is to make sure they are not excluded from participating because of their low SP.
For example if the corp decides to take a wormhole chain through the frigate only wormholes to get to a mining source, the SP needed to fly an Expedition Frigate to come along is fairly high. The new player couldn't even haul back ore in a Miasmos, since it can't fit through those holes.
CCP Terminus said - it's only 8 days into a Mining Barge, but that doesn't help in this scenario. I don't see the harm in allowing ice mining with a cheap frigate like the Venture, as long as the bonus is VERY weak. |
Schelyra Elyte
Heeresversuchsanstalt The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.10.02 19:31:50 -
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CCP Terminus wrote:Bienator II wrote:the actual question is: what color is it? Laetitia Nzero wrote:What colour will it be? lol, art has the final say but I'm hoping for something icy
How about an ice cream truck? with sounds? |
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