Speaking of the picture, it shows it with 3x lasers on it. Though it only has 1x laser slot. Hacks! Of course, it wouldn't look so pretty with just one of the slots with turrets like it will have.

Also, what do you see being used for the second utility slot on a ship like this? Miner, cloak, ?lolnos?

Speaking of the picture, it shows it with 3x lasers on it. Though it only has 1x laser slot. Hacks! Of course, it wouldn't look so pretty with just one of the slots with turrets like it will have.

Also, what do you see being used for the second utility slot on a ship like this? Miner, cloak, ?lolnos?

I'm sure the art guys love hearing that :) I told them icey and they delivered.

Anyone wanna guess what isk/hour you could make with one of these in null?

Anything on stats one the new faction ice miner? Is it still range bonus? LP cost? Is there going to be a dev blog on all that, or do we just have to wait and try to find it when it shows up on the test server? :D

Should be showing up on the test server in the near future. The ORE Ice Mining Lasers stats are unchanged from the original post. It will be purchasable from the ORE LP store as usual, and probably won't be quite so expensive as other ORE faction modules.

Well if you are mining Dark Glitter it'll take 12 minutes to fill up the hull, after that if you have a hauler you can keep mining

so 60minutes/12minutes = 5 so you can mine 5 full hulls before an hour hits

I'm assuming Dark glitter is 1,000m3 so that's 15 pieces/12 minutes

15x5=75 pieces in an hour

Dark Glitter values at 350,000isk x 75 pieces = 26,250,000isk/hour

Now normally miners mine for more than 1 hour so lets just say for 6 hours (average time I spend mining)

26,250,000 x 6 = 157,500,000isk and I play 5 - 7 days of the week so we'll say 6 days = 945,000,000isk/hour

depending if you are solo mining or with a group, I usually travel with 3 - 5 so we'll say 4 all running the same ship and mining

945,000,000isk x 4 = 3,780,000,000 isk



This is only if you have all upgrades maxed out and the time down to the 48 seconds to mine ice in nulsec without being bothered :)

I don't know if it was mentioned before, the shattered frig holes have all class 6 "Wolf Rayet" effects. That means this ICE mining frig will have almost no tank in it seeing it has a shield bonus and has to stand against 1k dps frigates/destroyers. Any thoughts about this?

sory engi+ƒh bad :)

venture +ƒhip size 133 m - 5000 m3 ore hold
prospect ship size 139 m - 10 000 m3
discover /maybe ship size 150m / 15 000 m3


hulk ship size 509 m - 8500 m3

what is this
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This thing will be exceedingly hard to gank in high-sec.

As a hi-sec ice miner the only time I may use these ships is when setting up in a new system, they will be easy to setup in my HQ then load into an orca or transport.

I am a little worried about the size of the hold though, 15000 is too big for a frigate, it is just making life easier for those who will use it. At worst drop it down to 12000 the same as a prospect, at best 10000 is more than enough.

Looking back at previous posts it appears there will only be 25 places to use this ship at its best, so gankers paradise, add that to the fact they cannot get a mining boost in frigate only areas or even decent hauling and this ship will be used by a couple of wh'ers.

So a bit of a waste of time for almost everyone in the game, instead of making ships this like this please give us a dedicated ice miner with all round capabilities like tank/hold, its about time.

And as a side note putting ore compression on this will suddenly turn it into the most used mining ship in the game and make most of the others pointless for solo miners. Compressor's should be kept out of mining ships, although putting one on an Orca would be fun.

It lowers the bar for new players to experience all aspects of mining, before the greater investment of time and isk - of barges/exhumers.

And has the potential (though I personally believe unlikely) to attract high-sec miners into risk areas, because a frigate hull is certainly a cheaper loss. Currently Prospects sell under the 20m isk, which would be a gauge to expected cost of the Endurance.

Historically the Mackinaw was the dedicated Ice Miner, which it ceased to be following tieracide of the ORE lineup in 2012. A medium rig for Ice Harvesting allows for any Barge/Exhumer to function as a dedicated Ice Miner. Allowing greater flexibility with hull section and remaining a semblance to the theme of "performance vs defence" in fitting choices.

Again, tried Google translate on the wall of text above, couldn't decipher the intent.

This will be used A LOT in high-risk areas

and even in vanilla high-sec anoms.

There are PLENTY of other uses for this ship, if you can't theorycraft it or figure it out you are doing it wrong. I'm not talking PvP, either, though Endurancelol fleets are possible.

I personally have crafted a gas/ice expedition frigate alt just for this ship/family. Cant wait!

/cse

Never. It loses in everything but the hold to the worst barge - Procurer.

There are no fitting choices currently because all barges currently suck, Hulk and Covetor just suck a bit less. Mining in anything but Hulk is self-ganking every few hours due to lost profit from not mining in Hulk