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Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.26 18:12:00 - [181] Edited by: Plutoinum on 26/01/2007 18:13:02 Thanks works for me. Now it's time to try out, if it improves something. Originally by: DaMiGe Quote: @echo off d: cd\ccp\eve @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H cache2 s:\cache @echo files copied s: cd\cache @echo removing machonet rmdir /s /q machonet @echo machonet removed D:\CCP\EVE\eve.exe cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause d: cd\ccp\eve rmdir /s /q cache2 s: cd\ xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H cache d:\ccp\eve\cache2 rmdir /s /q cache exit no expert, but still all in one batchfile, works for me I've also put both scripts into one now, but wasn't happy about the pause command, so I don't start EvE with 'eve.exe' in that script, but with 'bin\exefile.exe /nosplash /noconsole' to avoid that pause-command. Wonder if the eve.exe does anything else than starting exefile.exe with those parameters and also if I'm allowed to do it or not ofc. Since I play with two accounts on one client sometimes, I've removed the line that deletes the cache directory in the ramdisk at the end of the script. Otherwise if one client shuts down it might delete stuff from the machonet folder that an other running client still needs later. edit: Just noticed that the same problem might happen with the deletion of the machonet-folder in the beginning, if you start a 2nd client that runs in the same folder. ( Usually I'd so some kind of reference counting to clean-up safely after the last client has shut down or check in that script, if still an exefile.exe is running, but too lazy ... and no idea how to do it in 5 minutes ^^) ______________ Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.
Harno Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.02.08 22:14:00 - [182] Edited by: Harno on 08/02/2007 22:11:44 Originally by: Sangheili when i right click and drag to "create junction here" i get an error saying: "failed to create link. Most likely the target file system does not support this feature, or you tried to create a hard link across different partitions." my hard drives are NTFS, and im creating the link from the ram drive (Z) to my C: drive. any ideas? thx in advanced looks like the filesystem on your ram drive is only fat or fat32 then. junctions need ntfs on all drives they involve.
SSgt Sniper Gallente Zekarus Ltd.	Posted - 2007.02.08 23:05:00 - [183] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Hardware Ram drive for those of you who have old DDR modules sitting about. You damn tease, you made me all hot and bothered, until....... I remembered I'd need a slim version of it. --------- Representing all the casual gamers happily living in Empire, that want NO PART of your 0.0 annoyances. However, I do not represent my corp. We vote first.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.19 14:25:00 - [184] tbh i am clueless to all this.. but the part of dropping my entire eve folder on to a ramdisk sounds like a option , but how much easier is that? and yes i have no clue on **** like this
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 14:39:00 - [185] Originally by: Sir JoJo tbh i am clueless to all this.. but the part of dropping my entire eve folder on to a ramdisk sounds like a option , but how much easier is that? and yes i have no clue on **** like this I haven't found a Windows RAMdisk driver that lets me create a RAMdisk above 96MB; they all crash above that point. There must be one, but I can't find it, or maybe my computer sucks. My recommendation for a RAMdisk of that size is to use one of the SATA ramdisks; that is, a card that plugs into your computer like a hard disk but holds memory, and uses a backup battery to ensure that the data doesn't die when your computer does. Its like a hundred bucks for a card, and effectively gives you a 4 gigabyte "hard drive" with almost instant data transfer speed. EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Lungorthin Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.19 17:23:00 - [186] Originally by: Sha'Uri Dark [...] when I right-click the Cache folder on the ram drive and try to create a link to the Eve install I get: Failed to create junction. Most likely the target file system does not support this function. [...] I get exactly the same error messages. Have you found a solution? or does anyone know what could be the problem? System: Win2000 and all drives having NTFS Tech-Help please
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.20 13:22:00 - [187] This is probaly me doing something wrong. First do i have to create that Batcht file one the ramdisk? because if i do it in my eve folder i just get an entire cachefolder more in my eve folder. i did try and make a bacth file in the ramdisk and it worked somehow .. it actually did copy my cache to the ram disk but all settings arent as they used to be, well tbh its like a completly new installed client. hpw do i change that`? i havent deleted my setting and have backups but i thought it should copy them whit the rest of the cache. @echo off REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \) set EVEPATH=C:\Programmer\CCP\EVE REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \) set RAMPATH=S:\cache @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" %RAMPATH% @echo files copied "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H %RAMPATH% "%EVEPATH%\cache2\" rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH% mkdir %RAMPATH% exit This is the Batch i used. and do i have to use that batchfile every time i load eve or just the one? yes i am a nooob at this.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.20 13:24:00 - [188] Originally by: Sir JoJo This is probaly me doing something wrong. First do i have to create that Batcht file one the ramdisk? because if i do it in my eve folder i just get an entire cachefolder more in my eve folder. i did try and make a bacth file in the ramdisk and it worked somehow .. it actually did copy my cache to the ram disk but all settings arent as they used to be, well tbh its like a completly new installed client. hpw do i change that`? i havent deleted my setting and have backups but i thought it should copy them whit the rest of the cache. @echo off REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \) set EVEPATH=C:\Programmer\CCP\EVE REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \) set RAMPATH=S:\cache @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" %RAMPATH% @echo files copied "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H %RAMPATH% "%EVEPATH%\cache2\" rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH% mkdir %RAMPATH% exit This is the Batch i used. and do i have to use that batchfile every time i load eve or just the one? yes i am a nooob at this. It sounds like you're not setting your paths properly. The batch files should work exactly the same regardless of where you put them, because they should be completely path-independant. Originally by: Lungorthin Originally by: Sha'Uri Dark [...] when I right-click the Cache folder on the ram drive and try to create a link to the Eve install I get: Failed to create junction. Most likely the target file system does not support this function. [...] I get exactly the same error messages. Have you found a solution? or does anyone know what could be the problem? System: Win2000 and all drives having NTFS Tech-Help please You need to make the RAMdrive be NTFS. EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Abye SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.20 13:43:00 - [189] Originally by: Dark Shikari You need to make the RAMdrive be NTFS. Works for me with the RAMdrive being FAT. My Harddisk is NTFS and it needs to be since the junction from the eve directory points to the RAMdrive. ___ Inappropriate signature. Please do not use this signature. Email us for more information -Eldo ([email protected])
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.02.20 13:53:00 - [190] Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 20/02/2007 13:50:02 http://home.tiscali.be/ir006712/SDB/SDB.htm DS, would you mind adding a link to that program somewhere in the 1st post of this thread? That program is very convenient for people who prefer not to mess about with batch files. On an unrelated note, it went beserk a while back and created 10GB of .tmp files before I realised what had happened. Under normal circumstances, it just creates a single zip file and updates that. Users are advised to check the directory it uses every so often, but otherwise it's been perfect. ------ Top speed calculation spreadsheet - feedback welcome :)

Liliane Woodhead	Posted - 2007.02.20 14:09:00 - [191] Works all pretty good. Oh and i do pretty good old handwork. You only have to backup your prefs.ini / Settings-Folder when you made changes and then copy that back when your computer is rebootet ... simply crtl-c ctrl-v for those who have at least 2 fingers. For others who use and spit out automated scripts: learn how to copy with datetime to prevent waiting times. P.S.: oh and share this with us :P
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.20 14:14:00 - [192] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 20/02/2007 14:13:22 Save this as a batch file in your eve folder in C:\program files\ccp\eve. Should be an all in 1. ------------------ @echo off @echo copying files, Please wait rmdir /s /q cache\machonet @echo machonet removed xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H cache2 s:\cache @echo files copied eve.exe cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause rmdir /s /q cache2 xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H S:\cache cache2 rmdir /s /q cache exit --
Rizlent	Posted - 2007.02.21 00:49:00 - [193] Edited by: Rizlent on 21/02/2007 00:46:36 Hi, I have tried to this this step by step but I am stuck on the create link junction from RAMdrive to Eve directory Everytime I right click and drag the "cache" folder from the RAMdrive to any folder on any of my HDD's I get this error "Failed to create link. Most likely the target file system does not support this feature, or you tired to create a hard link across partitions". Anyone else had this problem or can offer any suggestions. All HDD including RAMdrive are NTFS. OS is Win2k and I have installed the NTFS link. I am using IDE HDD directly on the motherboard and SATA drives.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.02.21 01:03:00 - [194] Edited by: Xtro 2 on 21/02/2007 01:00:19 if you have junction problems try my script (doesnt need paths etc) and or junction use (its a dos version another poster suggested and works well) on the previous page(s). Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Lungorthin Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:48:00 - [195] Edited by: Lungorthin on 21/02/2007 04:46:29 Originally by: Rizlent Edited by: Rizlent on 21/02/2007 00:46:36 Hi, I have tried to this this step by step but I am stuck on the create link junction from RAMdrive to Eve directory Everytime I right click and drag the "cache" folder from the RAMdrive to any folder on any of my HDD's I get this error "Failed to create link. Most likely the target file system does not support this feature, or you tired to create a hard link across partitions". Anyone else had this problem or can offer any suggestions. All HDD including RAMdrive are NTFS. OS is Win2k and I have installed the NTFS link. I am using IDE HDD directly on the motherboard and SATA drives. yes, as mentioned before on this thread I had the same problem. The solution for me was to use another ramdrive utility called: SuperVolume, RamDisk But this SuperVolume, Ramdisk is not for free. They have a trial version though, which I suggest you try to see if this solves your problem. If it works then at least you identified the source of your problems. Ramdrive created me always a FAT drive and I got the same error message as you describe Ramdisk allows me to choose what file system I want, NTFS of course, and later on the NTFS Link utility worked well. P.S.: The link http://www.superspeed.com/desktop/ramdisk.php
Bozse Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.21 16:31:00 - [196] Ok i set this up just as it says, the ram drive is ntfs, my game drive is ntfs, but i still get the error msg when i try to rightklick drag and create the link. Any sugestions on what can be wrong ?
Rizlent	Posted - 2007.02.21 21:47:00 - [197] Originally by: Lungorthin Edited by: Lungorthin on 21/02/2007 04:46:29 Originally by: Rizlent Edited by: Rizlent on 21/02/2007 00:46:36 Hi, I have tried to this this step by step but I am stuck on the create link junction from RAMdrive to Eve directory Everytime I right click and drag the "cache" folder from the RAMdrive to any folder on any of my HDD's I get this error "Failed to create link. Most likely the target file system does not support this feature, or you tired to create a hard link across partitions". Anyone else had this problem or can offer any suggestions. All HDD including RAMdrive are NTFS. OS is Win2k and I have installed the NTFS link. I am using IDE HDD directly on the motherboard and SATA drives. yes, as mentioned before on this thread I had the same problem. The solution for me was to use another ramdrive utility called: SuperVolume, RamDisk But this SuperVolume, Ramdisk is not for free. They have a trial version though, which I suggest you try to see if this solves your problem. If it works then at least you identified the source of your problems. Ramdrive created me always a FAT drive and I got the same error message as you describe Ramdisk allows me to choose what file system I want, NTFS of course, and later on the NTFS Link utility worked well. P.S.: The link http://www.superspeed.com/desktop/ramdisk.php Thanks that program worked fine, There is something wrong with the other RAMdrive proggie that has nothing to do with NTFS/FAT. Anyways thanks for the link
Plague Black 4S Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.22 16:12:00 - [198] Wow, nice! Let me just ask one thing. If I get a ram disk cards and install on PC would I be able to install EVE on it and run without making RAMDrives? It's very tempting to have EVE run with lightning speed I must say
Lungorthin Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:16:00 - [199] Originally by: Plague Black Wow, nice! Let me just ask one thing. If I get a ram disk cards and install on PC would I be able to install EVE on it and run without making RAMDrives? It's very tempting to have EVE run with lightning speed I must say most probably yes at least on my HDD the whole EVE folder uses up 1,6 GB so if you have a ram disk card with at least 2G RAM you could do that. now that would be sweet...
31i73 BGG	Posted - 2007.02.22 18:24:00 - [200] Edited by: 31i73 on 22/02/2007 21:19:36 Edited by: 31i73 on 22/02/2007 21:18:44 I tried that junction program, and got this: C:\>junction -s f:\Games\EVE4\cache X:\ Junction v1.04 - Windows junction creator and reparse point viewer Copyright (C) 2000-2005 Mark Russinovich Systems Internals - http://www.sysinternals.com Error setting junction for f:\Games\EVE4\cache: The data present in the reparse point buffer is invalid. edit: nvm, I missed the ramdriveprogram first :D but once I had a ramdrive up, it worked nicely, thx. Signature graphic removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])

Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.02.22 23:35:00 - [201] Originally by: Aeaus DS, it seems that I can't get bin to run when on the RamDISK, currently running... cache capture lib logs res script I also use a variation of your batch file, especially for the capture folder. Clear out your capture folder and rename it to capture.org and have that copy to the RamDISK, but on shutdown copy it's contents to capture.auto, so you keep a record of everything you capture, but you don't end up cluttering the RamDISK with files that don't really need to be there. It's possible to get around this problem by individually symlinking the subfolders within 'capture' - the screenshots folder can easily get too large and is best left alone, but the others are more manageable. You don't need to preserve the folder structure from your EVE directory on your ram drive when doing this, although it helps to keep things tidy. Additionally, I've found that the stdlib folder can be symlinked without causing any problems. ------ Top speed calculation spreadsheet - feedback welcome :)
Sha'Uri Dark Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.23 01:20:00 - [202] Originally by: Lungorthin Originally by: Sha'Uri Dark [...] when I right-click the Cache folder on the ram drive and try to create a link to the Eve install I get: Failed to create junction. Most likely the target file system does not support this function. [...] I get exactly the same error messages. Have you found a solution? or does anyone know what could be the problem? System: Win2000 and all drives having NTFS Tech-Help please I got around/fixed this by creating the cache folder on the ram drive then going to the eve/cache and creating the link there. I think the problem was that I was trying to link the cache folder on the ram drive to the ...eve/cache folder and not the ...eve/cache folder to the ram drive cache folder. Subtle difference but think that was what the problem was iirc. I'm using the ram drive program by speeddisk now as the false fatal errors where getting damn annoying with the other program. -------------------------------- As a Freelancer...scratch that Originally by: Shar Tegral Stop projecting your out of game beliefs of what society should be upon the rest of us. said it best.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.02.23 01:48:00 - [203] Originally by: Dark Shikari 1. Hard disks are very slow at loading tons of small files. Not really. NTFS is not good at indexing directories with many, many files. Modern OS - including Windows - have extensive read-ahead predictive file caches, so EVE cache files are already being read from the disk buffer in most cases. This is in addition to the predictive read-ahead buffers on the drives themselves. Rarely does any bit of data come directly off the magnetic disk and into main system memory. What the RAMdisk buys you is faster access to the directories. Quote: NTFS is particularly bad--if Windows ran on an optimized file system such as ReiserFS, this would not be as much of a problem. Maybe ext2fs.sys would give better performance if EVE were installed on a ext2 filesystem under Windows? This Installable FileSystem driver, by the way, kicks ass. Forget FAT32 as a portable filesystem, ext2 works on Windows now, and also Mac OSX, and is not encumbered by any patents. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.02.23 15:06:00 - [204] Originally by: Sha'Uri Dark I'm using the ram drive program by speeddisk now as the false fatal errors where getting damn annoying with the other program. If you right-click on the Start button on the taskbar, you can open a menu where you can choose to always hide those messages, as others have already pointed out in this thread ------ Top speed calculation spreadsheet - feedback welcome :)
Jonas Umbator Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.23 23:17:00 - [205] anyone know how to convert the RAMDisk to NTFS? When I click properties on the RAMDisk it says it is FAT. If i try right-click format it says that it is unable to format it. I'm assuming this is my problem with getting this to work. My main disk c: is NTFS. Originally by: Zirth You simply can't fight back, there's privateers in nanophoons, battleships, anything really, with their numbers, experience, and gatecamps, you stand no chance. LOL
Sha'Uri Dark Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.24 00:48:00 - [206] Edited by: Sha''Uri Dark on 24/02/2007 00:45:42 Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Originally by: Sha'Uri Dark I'm using the ram drive program by speeddisk now as the false fatal errors where getting damn annoying with the other program. If you right-click on the Start button on the taskbar, you can open a menu where you can choose to always hide those messages, as others have already pointed out in this thread Wow thanks for pointing that out to me. I would have never thought to read the whole thread and try the things others have done. Even with setting it to never show they would still pop up from time to time. It was annoying, now I don't have to worry about it. Ever. -------------------------------- As a Freelancer...scratch that Originally by: Shar Tegral Stop projecting your out of game beliefs of what society should be upon the rest of us. said it best.
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2007.02.24 01:25:00 - [207] Originally by: Jonas Umbator anyone know how to convert the RAMDisk to NTFS? When I click properties on the RAMDisk it says it is FAT. If i try right-click format it says that it is unable to format it. I'm assuming this is my problem with getting this to work. My main disk c: is NTFS. Mine uses FAT and it's working perfectly. I'm currently using the basic extended version, with the fake error messages permanently hidden as detailed above. I believe it's possible to get that one to use NTFS (or FAT32) if you right click on it in Device Manager and select Properties, but I can't say whether that will help. ------ Top speed calculation spreadsheet - feedback welcome :)
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.26 07:40:00 - [208] No go for me. I: drive, bat this, bat that, ram crap, txt file, CCP-what, 2+2=4, cat's climbing up trees! Frak this! _________________________________________________________
Zodric Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:40:00 - [209] With the 50 different ways posted here it's kinda hard to see what works best, so... could somebody with a good understanding of this please sum it up and make a new "guide" using the program and whatever files that do best? Oh, and was it possible with any program to set ramdisk size to 512MB or more?
Lungorthin Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.28 20:57:00 - [210] Originally by: Zodric Oh, and was it possible with any program to set ramdisk size to 512MB or more? Yes, with this one http://www.superspeed.com/desktop/ramdisk.php just this one is not free



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