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Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.02 03:39:00 - [151] DS, it seems that I can't get bin to run when on the RamDISK, currently running... cache capture lib logs res script I also use a variation of your batch file, especially for the capture folder. Clear out your capture folder and rename it to capture.org and have that copy to the RamDISK, but on shutdown copy it's contents to capture.auto, so you keep a record of everything you capture, but you don't end up cluttering the RamDISK with files that don't really need to be there. Tanking Survivability Calculator
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:28:00 - [152] Originally by: Aeaus DS, it seems that I can't get bin to run when on the RamDISK, currently running... cache capture lib logs res script I also use a variation of your batch file, especially for the capture folder. Clear out your capture folder and rename it to capture.org and have that copy to the RamDISK, but on shutdown copy it's contents to capture.auto, so you keep a record of everything you capture, but you don't end up cluttering the RamDISK with files that don't really need to be there. Yup, I did that. I also made the logs folder delete on every shutdown, along with the gamelogs folder -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Gor Kraon Minmatar Shadowclan	Posted - 2007.01.02 22:13:00 - [153] As i mentioned before, i like my portrait collection, but it is keeping me from using the RAMdrive for the whole cache folder... Would there be a way to delete all the x_256 portraits but keep the x_64?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.02 22:31:00 - [154] Originally by: Gor Kraon As i mentioned before, i like my portrait collection, but it is keeping me from using the RAMdrive for the whole cache folder... Would there be a way to delete all the x_256 portraits but keep the x_64? I think you can use * as a wildcard in the copy command to do that. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Zurtur Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.03 22:18:00 - [155] Didnt read the whole thread so sry if these question have already been asked. My cache folder is 152mb with around 15,000 files! MachoNet is 80mb, and Pictures>Gids is another 30mb. What is MachoNet resposible for and what are gids? Can I delete those 2 folders to actually put my cache to ramdrive? Ofc they wouldnt be deleted everytime, only once. This is probably because my EvE client is like a year old, just copyed over from windows to windows and from PC to PC... Z - Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr When my armor repair's itself, then you can come moan about that.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 22:43:00 - [156] Originally by: Zurtur Didnt read the whole thread so sry if these question have already been asked. My cache folder is 152mb with around 15,000 files! MachoNet is 80mb, and Pictures>Gids is another 30mb. What is MachoNet resposible for and what are gids? Can I delete those 2 folders to actually put my cache to ramdrive? Ofc they wouldnt be deleted everytime, only once. This is probably because my EvE client is like a year old, just copyed over from windows to windows and from PC to PC... Z You should clear out your cache regularly (every few months). Gids is character portraits, item images, and the like--you can leave that. Try just deleting machonet. It will have to reload the first time you run EVE, but it won't get remotely near 80MB. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Zurtur Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.04 04:10:00 - [157] Love it, installed the pro and made it work with 128mb for all my EvE folders, now I just whish I had more ram and could put whole EvE in there Now lets head to some combat and see how this thing handles it, and whats the real improvement. Thx DS Z - Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr When my armor repair's itself, then you can come moan about that.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.01.04 04:12:00 - [158] i believe gids would be the item icons... not sure though
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.04 04:13:00 - [159] Nice tip DS, this really improved the performance of my laptop especially coming out of stations and out of warp. And its only got 512 megs of ram, so its viable even on lower end machines..... <-----------> MMORPG == Massively Moronic Online Raw Powergaming Grief fests.... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=426616 LowSec != NoSec
Zurtur Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.04 05:12:00 - [160] 3rd reply in this thread, but I have a question. Everything seems to be running fine and off the ramdrive, however after the game starts up, i get up to my station etc, but all chat windows display after around 20 seconds. I can look around etc, open evemail or anything, but chat windows just arent there, and appear after those 20 seconds (as mentioned). Funny thing is that chat that people have been writting in those 20 sec while my chat windows were still nto displayed is actually there after the windows display, meaning right when they display there is already like 5-10 lines of chat in there. Any idea what could be causing this? Can post my .bat file, problem may be there as i made it myself. Z - Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr When my armor repair's itself, then you can come moan about that.

Rakeris Legio VIII	Posted - 2007.01.04 06:10:00 - [161] Strange, I had that problem BEFORE I started using a RAMDisk for my eve folders. After I started using it I no longer had that problem. ---------- I gave up on sigs. As all the beatings are starting to hurt and leave nasty bruises.
Gor Kraon Minmatar Shadowclan	Posted - 2007.01.04 10:09:00 - [162] Any free working ram drives that can be set to 128MB? I need at least that much for portraits and the rest of EVE.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.04 11:11:00 - [163] Originally by: Gor Kraon Any free working ram drives that can be set to 128MB? I need at least that much for portraits and the rest of EVE. The evaluation version on the original site can be used... its unlimited time and the "nag" can be very easily disabled with a quick trip into the Control Panel/Taskbar Settings/Customize. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
General Tso's Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.05 08:14:00 - [164] Just curious is there a program that monitors hardrive activity? so that i could see what files are frequently accessed while playing a game? (so that i could adapt this technique to other games) not all games have a "Cache, bin, and capture" folder all clearly marked :) Thanks for this tip and all the posters who've added their constructive 2 cents. -------- It's great flying Amarr, aint it? They say the universe is perfect If you try to change it, you'll only ruin it If you try to hold onto it, it will only slip away
zibelthurdos	Posted - 2007.01.05 08:20:00 - [165] or alternatly you can get a hybrid drive with nvram
Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 10:14:00 - [166] hmmm, forums ate my post :o Anyway, this little trick works like a charm. Only one question, my ramdisk software allows me to choose a file system for the ramdisk. What would be most efficient to use? FAT, FAT32 or NTFS? ----- Originally by: RUNYOUFOOLS wrong on so many levels you could only be more wrong if you where tuxford.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.05 20:03:00 - [167] Edited by: Pilk on 05/01/2007 20:06:52 My .bat. It does NOT delete MachoNet. It adds in a couple features, like saved portraits--you can open up Eve, click on all your buddies' names, and just copy all the pictures from %RAMPATH%\Pictures\Portraits into your %EVEPATH%\Saved\Portraits directory. It also (attempts to) detect if more than one copy of Eve is running out of the same RAMDisk directory, and will not run if it detects this. If you get a spurious error as a result, make sure Eve isn't running somewhere and that you hit a key on an old copy of your Eve.bat, then just delete the contents of your %RAMPATH% directory. It also Should (tm) support cache filenames with spaces in them. @echo off REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \) set EVEPATH=C:\Program Files\CCP\Eve-Pilk REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \) set RAMPATH=S:\pilk\cache IF EXIST "%RAMPATH%\prefs.ini" ( @echo "RAMDisk already in use!" pause goto end ) @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" "%RAMPATH%" @echo files copied "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%RAMPATH%" "%EVEPATH%\cache2\" rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2\temp" rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2\Pictures\Portraits" rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2\Pictures\Gids" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\saved\Portraits" "%EVEPATH%\cache2\Pictures" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\saved\Gids" "%EVEPATH%\cache2\Pictures" rmdir /s /q "%RAMPATH%" mkdir "%RAMPATH%" :end exit
Damfoose Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 00:29:00 - [168] Originally by: DaMiGe Quote: @echo off d: cd\ccp\eve @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H cache2 s:\cache @echo files copied s: cd\cache @echo removing machonet rmdir /s /q machonet @echo machonet removed D:\CCP\EVE\eve.exe cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause d: cd\ccp\eve rmdir /s /q cache2 s: cd\ xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H cache d:\ccp\eve\cache2 rmdir /s /q cache exit no expert, but still all in one batchfile, works for me So how does this turn out if eve is on D:\Program Games\CCP\EVEorig and the ram drive is J:\cache
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.07 21:01:00 - [169] Originally by: Damfoose So how does this turn out if eve is on D:\Program Games\CCP\EVEorig and the ram drive is J:\cache @echo off REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \) set EVEPATH=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVEorig REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \) set RAMPATH=J:\cache IF EXIST "%RAMPATH%\prefs.ini" ( @echo "RAMDisk already in use!" pause goto end ) @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" "%RAMPATH%" @echo files copied "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause :cleanup rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%RAMPATH%" "%EVEPATH%\cache2\" rmdir /s /q "%RAMPATH%" mkdir "%RAMPATH%" :end exit
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.01.07 21:16:00 - [170] i havent really looked before but id imagine this would be more usefull if the ramdisk was dynamic like the built in amiga ramdrive, only taking as much memory as the files you placed in it and freeing space when files are deleted. Does anyone know of a dynamic ram drive system for windows at all? id use one then, but not a fixed size drive, bit of a waste imho. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.

Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.01.07 21:17:00 - [171] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Gor Kraon As i mentioned before, i like my portrait collection, but it is keeping me from using the RAMdrive for the whole cache folder... Would there be a way to delete all the x_256 portraits but keep the x_64? I think you can use * as a wildcard in the copy command to do that. if nto the xcopy command used to have greater options like wildcard etc. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Sha'Uri Dark Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.01.07 23:41:00 - [172] Ok so I've had a minute to fiddle with this. I managed to get everything working or at least I think I did. I mean it worked a few times and now when I run: @echo off REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \) set EVEPATH=C:\Program Files\ccp\eve REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \) set RAMPATH=R:\cache @echo copying files, Please wait xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" %RAMPATH% @echo files copied @echo removing machonet rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH%\machonet @echo machonet removed "%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" cls @echo (only press when you shutdown eve) pause rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2" xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H %RAMPATH% "%EVEPATH%\cache2\" rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH% mkdir %RAMPATH% exit I get: copying files, Please wait File creation error - The data present in the reparse point buffer is invalid. Unable to create directory - R:\cache File not found - . 0 File(s) copied files copied removing machonet The name of the file cannot be resolved by the system. machonet removed (only press when you shutdown eve) Press any key to continue . . . The only thing I changed in the batch file where the drive letter for the RAMdisk and the cls between the start-up and shut-down phases. Using the Cenatek RAMdisk driver atm because the one linked in the OP wounldn't work for me, kept saying the .inf file had nothing about my settings/comp in it. The r:\cache folder already exists, isn't read-only and was working. I'm at a lose as to what went wrong where. -------------------------------- As a Freelancer...scratch that Originally by: Shar Tegral Stop projecting your out of game beliefs of what society should be upon the rest of us. said it best.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.01.08 02:18:00 - [173] Edited by: Xtro 2 on 08/01/2007 02:32:52 if this scripts a spankable offense, let me know and ill remove it. I used the AR Soft RAM Disk 1.20 (only 1 i found liek some other here) I also used that nifty tool that defiler posted, quality find there mate, its very handy indeed, no fiddling around with anything its all done direct, just slap the file into windows\system32 as defiler suggested. install the junction tool defiler mentions then make 2 files in your root eve folder. file 1 is called nocopy.txt, this will be in the eve root folder as well and is plain text contain the following, in exactly this format. .exe .cache .jpg save the file with just those 3 entries, you can change them later, this dictates what is NOT to be copied from your cache folder to the RAM disk all other material is copied to RAM. file2 is the another quick dirty batchfile i whipped up, it assumes your RAM Drive is R: if yours is different please amend as you see fit. RUN-Eve.Bat @echo off Echo Please Wait, This May Take A While... Echo. if not exist cache-orig goto beginsetup :continuesetup Echo Starting EVE-Online (C)CCP... bin\exefile.exe /noconsole goto end :beginsetup md R:\cache >NUL: md R:\capture >NUL: Echo. ren cache cache-orig >NUL: ren capture capture-orig >NUL: junction cache R:\cache >NUL: junction capture R:\capture >NUL: Echo Cache And Capture Folders Prepared... Echo. Echo Please Wait, Copying Cache To RAM... REM ** the nocopy.txt file will stop specific files or folders REM from being copied to RAM, change this as you see fit xcopy cache-orig r:\cache /D /E /C /Q /R /Y /EXCLUDE:nocopy.txt >NUL: Echo Complete... Echo. goto continuesetup :end junction -d cache >NUL: junction -d capture >NUL: ren cache-orig cache >NUL: ren capture-orig capture >NUL: xcopy R:\capture capture /D /E /C /Q /R /Y >NUL: xcopy R:\cache cache /D /E /C /Q /R /Y >NUL: Echo Folders Restored... Echo. REM this part just wipes out the logs i dont like or want REM as usual remove the lines below if you want to keep logs ** del capture\gamelogs\. /F /S /Q >NUL: del capture\chatlogs\. /F /S /Q >NUL: Echo Unwanted Logs Deleted... Echo. pause runs eve from its own folder, waits till the game finishes, then copies the extra things you gained ingame back to its original folder. RAM contents are left because A) its RAM and wipes on resets, B) the batchfile updates everything needed anyways and C) if you run multiple times between resets, it doesnt take ages as it only copies to RAM new files rather than the whole lot. It also cleans up unwanted junk from the actual eve folder such as logs and it removes the junction entries it made for the temporary RAM usage. If this sucks, let me know, if not, er, let me know, it works flawlessly for me, and you dont need the AR ramdrive either, any ramdisk will do, just make sure your drive letter matches mine or you replace my R: with your drive letter. Enjoy... Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.01.08 02:56:00 - [174] Link For Plain Sight Example just shows the 2 files required in the eve folder. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Sorela Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:56:00 - [175] Well I skimmed somewhat so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. I saw discussion of flash drives for this and noticed one thing hadn't been made clear. While flash drives do have some drawbacks I think getting one and using it specifically for the cache directory is worth trying. Since it seems the main problem is access time a flash drive would excel. If you get one with level-wearing it should last a long time I'd think. Plus if you do only the cache you can get one of the cheaper smaller thumbdrives that will easily handle it. The ramdrive sounds good but the thought of having to keep it backed up sounds like a headache to me. A flash drive should skirt this problem nicely.
Ayar Manco	Posted - 2007.01.13 04:25:00 - [176] Very useful tip and useful replies/questions all round. Question for DS and maybe defiler: you mention the control panel/taskbar & start menu/customize for hiding the nag for the ramdisk. However, this doesn't seem to work...hide the little systray yellow triangle but not the nag screen itself for me? Here is maybe why, but I'm not sure: I'm using Pro evalutation version for RAMDisk I'm using the junction program defiler mentioned I've got a 512MB ramdisk that I'm using for various things I'm using the logon/logoff script approach defiler described to auto-populate and off-load the Ramdisk to/from its backing store when the user logs in and logs out I think it is due to #4? Because I'm making use of the ramdisk by populating it as part of the login process, it is before the user's taskbar customizations are available. So I get the nag screen (it appears even before the desktop icons and such). Does that make sense? Anyway, nice job, I see the benefits with warp arrivals, station exit/enter, and system-jumping. I am using the RAMdrive for a few other things here and there. Defiler's tips for getting the batch files out of the way and making the RAMDrive "just work" and managed in a single place for all ramdisk'd folders is sweet. Although in his logon script you really want to xcopy first if you are linking many folders and multiple eves to their various ramdrive locations (makes sense I guess). Regardless, thanks!
Koum Lesaintier	Posted - 2007.01.21 01:13:00 - [177] has anyone used this method while running two acounts from a single client install? does this affect anything in this method? I use the same client ( simply re-run it)for two seprate accounts not wanting to have a double install on my HD... also, it seems this pushes the combined settings folder ( 2 acounts ..6 characters 0 to over 300MBS so thi smight present a problem as from what i read there are no ( free) RAM disk programs over 256 MB, right?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.21 01:14:00 - [178] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 21/01/2007 01:10:58 Originally by: Koum Lesaintier has anyone used this method while running two acounts from a single client install? does this affect anything in this method? I use the same client ( simply re-run it)for two seprate accounts not wanting to have a double install on my HD... also, it seems this pushes the combined settings folder ( 2 acounts ..6 characters 0 to over 300MBS so thi smight present a problem as from what i read there are no ( free) RAM disk programs over 256 MB, right? Multiple characters doesn't increase the cache folder size much. Just delete some of your pictures in the portraits folder or the like to decrease the size. It should work fine if you're running off only one client. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Jade Noelle	Posted - 2007.01.22 17:45:00 - [179] It's working fine for me. Huge difference in performance.
Sangheili Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.26 14:03:00 - [180] when i right click and drag to "create junction here" i get an error saying: "failed to create link. Most likely the target file system does not support this feature, or you tried to create a hard link across different partitions." my hard drives are NTFS, and im creating the link from the ram drive (Z) to my C: drive. any ideas? thx in advanced Sangheili



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