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Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.03.04 01:18:00 -
[211]
Only read the op and Damige post and everything works fine with those two :)
Thanks a lot, this thing gave very nice boost on jumping, docking, undocking etc.
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Kael Denvear
Gallente
Reunited
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.09 00:19:00 -
[212]
because of the recent machonet changes use this bat file
@echo off
REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \)
set EVEPATH=C:\Program Files\ccp\eve
REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \)
set RAMPATH=S:\cache
@echo copying files, Please wait
xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" %RAMPATH%
@echo files copied
"%EVEPATH%\eve.exe"
cls
@echo (only press when you shutdown eve)
pause
rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2"
xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H %RAMPATH% "%EVEPATH%\cache2\"
rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH%
mkdir %RAMPATH%
exit
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Lister Black
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.09 03:14:00 -
[213]
 Originally by: Xtro 2
Edited by: Xtro 2 on 21/02/2007 01:00:19
if you have junction problems try my script (doesnt need paths etc) and or junction use (its a dos version another poster suggested and works well) on the previous page(s).
Xtro, I tried your way and it seemed to work fine, except that when it got to the "Staring EVE ONline" part of the batch file, it would just stay there and not actually open EvE.
The weird part is that when I ran the batch file the first time, I had put in the RAMdrive path wrong, and even though the files didn't get copied, EVE started up (with a few errors because the cache files hadn't actually been copied.
So it seems the problem started AFTER the files were successfully copied.
Any ideas?
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"Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink |
RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.09 03:39:00 -
[214]
sounds like a great idea !
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Xtro 2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2007.03.10 04:48:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Lister Black
Originally by: Xtro 2
Edited by: Xtro 2 on 21/02/2007 01:00:19
if you have junction problems try my script (doesnt need paths etc) and or junction use (its a dos version another poster suggested and works well) on the previous page(s).
Xtro, I tried your way and it seemed to work fine, except that when it got to the "Staring EVE ONline" part of the batch file, it would just stay there and not actually open EvE.
The weird part is that when I ran the batch file the first time, I had put in the RAMdrive path wrong, and even though the files didn't get copied, EVE started up (with a few errors because the cache files hadn't actually been copied.
So it seems the problem started AFTER the files were successfully copied.
Any ideas?
make sure the script has no trailing spaces etc, and to bugtest, remove the "@echo off" part, this will display to screen each command so you can visibly see where it gets stuck.
Also did you create the 2nd file that contains the exceptions? this should be in the same place as the main batchfile.
In fact gimme a while and ill slap all the files etc into a zip file or something.
Eve-Files Link For RamDrive Script-Extras
If the link vanishes coz its not suitable for eve-files lemme know and ill just mail it to you mate.
Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman.
Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder. |
Fredou
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:20:00 -
[216]
question:
ntfs compressed or not?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:22:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Fredou
question:
ntfs compressed or not?
Compressing the RAMdrive will help you store more, but one problem is that the compression is done after the fact; that is, if you have 80MB of files and you copy them onto a 64MB RAMdrive, it will not have finished compressing them by the time its done, so it won't finish copying the files; only some will be copied.
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EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard |
Fredou
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:26:00 -
[218]
Edited by: Fredou on 10/03/2007 18:24:22
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Fredou
question:
ntfs compressed or not?
Compressing the RAMdrive will help you store more, but one problem is that the compression is done after the fact; that is, if you have 80MB of files and you copy them onto a 64MB RAMdrive, it will not have finished compressing them by the time its done, so it won't finish copying the files; only some will be copied.
thanks!
i setup a 128m ramdisk so i wont have any problem soon 
and i have more than the eve cache on that 128m, sharing it with mozilla cache (50m)
using Cenatek ramdisk
nice feature: screenshot
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Man1ac
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:56:00 -
[219]
Edited by: Man1ac on 11/03/2007 06:54:13
Edited by: Man1ac on 11/03/2007 06:53:10
How do we do it "the russian way", without ugly black windows and totally (well ) automated:
1. Install ramdisk, any
2. Copy all following scripts into the folder where we will run them (EVE folder will do).
3. Edit them, if needed (yes, they are pretty self explanatory).
4. Rename our EVE cache to cache.bak, create a junction pointing to our new cache on a RamDisk (blah-blah) - everything like in previous episodes 
Script "ram-startup.cmd" (will run on computer startup):
Quote:
set MyRamDrive=B:
set MyEvePath=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE
mkdir %MyRamDrive%\cache
xcopy /d /c /i /k /r /e /h /y "%MyEvePath%\cache.bak" "%MyRamDrive%\cache"
set MyRamDrive=
set MyEvePath=
Script "ram-shutdown.cmd" (will run on computer shutdown):
Quote:
set MyRamDrive=B:
set MyEvePath=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE
xcopy /d /c /i /k /r /e /h /y "%MyRamDrive%\cache" "%MyEvePath%\cache.bak"
set MyRamDrive=
set MyEvePath=
Installing our scripts:
Start -> run -> gpedit.msc
Local Computer Policy -> Computer Configuration -> Windows Settings -> Scripts
Startup -> Add -> browsing where our ram-startup.cmd is -> OK
Shutdown -> Add -> browsing where our ram-shutdown.cmd -> OK
Closing Group Policy Editor, because we are done.
"Bonus" for people who never turn their computer off...
Script "ram-backup.cmd" (backs up our ramdisk every hour, if EVE is not running):
Run it with install parameter, and after that you can forget about it
Quote:
@echo off
set MyRamDrive=B:
set MyEvePath=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE
for /f usebackq %%v in (`tasklist ^| find /i /c "exefile.exe"`) do set EvesRunning=%%v
if "%1"=="run" (
if %EvesRunning% equ 0 (
xcopy /d /c /i /k /r /e /h /y "%MyRamDrive%\cache" "%MyEvePath%\cache.bak"
)
)
if "%1"=="install" (
schtasks /create /sc hourly /mo 1 /ru "" /tn "Backup my EVE cache" /tr "\"%~0\" run"
)
if "%1"=="uninstall" (
schtasks /delete /tn "Backup my EVE cache" /f
)
set MyRamDrive=
set MyEvePath=
set EvesRunnning=
p.s. No copyrights, no warranties, use on your own risk
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CmdrThor
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Posted - 2007.03.12 16:13:00 -
[220]
The only problem with startup/shutdown scripts is that your ramdrive, and thus the required amount of RAM is permanently tied to storing the EVE cache. So if you want to play another game for example, you'll either have to do so with less RAM, or run the shutdown script manually.
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Klikiss
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:03:00 -
[221]
Originally by: General Tso's
Just curious is there a program that monitors hardrive activity? so that i could see what files are frequently accessed while playing a game? (so that i could adapt this technique to other games) not all games have a "Cache, bin, and capture" folder all clearly marked :)
Thanks for this tip and all the posters who've added their constructive 2 cents.
Check out Process Monitor. It can show you ever single disk access going on, which program is doing it, and what file operations/filenames.
With it you can see that even with EvE set to only download icons on stuff you click on, it'll still download portraits for people and cache stuff for the browser when you are just flying along in warp not clicking anything. Sometimes a few per second. No idea why it is downloading those or what causes it. Yay for ramdisks.
I think I might just buy a copy of RamDisk Plus to have long-term, it's pretty nice/simple.
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Maam
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Posted - 2007.03.12 19:24:00 -
[222]
Edited by: Maam on 12/03/2007 19:42:22
Originally by: General Tso's
Just curious is there a program that monitors hardrive activity? so that i could see what files are frequently accessed while playing a game? (so that i could adapt this technique to other games) not all games have a "Cache, bin, and capture" folder all clearly marked :)
Thanks for this tip and all the posters who've added their constructive 2 cents.
Just going through this thread, didn't see a reply to you, so ...
I use Filemon as part of my admin's toolkit.
Set relevant filters when it's running, and stop auto scrolling, because windows uses an astonishing amount of file opens & closes even when it doesn't appear to be doing very much!
Edit: LOL ... then someone has replied just above me while I was hunting the link!
By the way, thanks very much Dark Shikari for getting this together. The slow loading of cached items has been driving me nuts recently, especially on warp in on missions.
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.03.13 16:04:00 -
[223]
what the hell is a batch file and how do i make one?
thanks
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Gaiam
Gallente
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.13 16:31:00 -
[224]
i didnt run a ramdrive i just shut off my paging file and got a huge increase in load times. 70% faster or so, other people have said the same after shutting off the file. need to have enough physical ram ofc.
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.18 14:56:00 -
[225]
Edited by: Dave White on 18/03/2007 14:55:03
Just did all those steps and it doesn't seem to work. I probably did something wrong with the batch files... Once I boot the startup, it instantly closes again.
F:\Games\EVE is my EVE folder...can someone make the script for me?
Thanks
PS. I already tried doing all the steps over again, and also asked someone if my batch file was looking alright, which it appearantly was
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Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.19 20:54:00 -
[226]
This is all really nice but remember, that patches are also stored in the cache folder, so if a patch exceeds your ram drives free disk space, automatic patching will not work anymore.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.03.23 20:24:00 -
[227]
I set up a ram drive and everything worked fine at first, but after rebooting my PC, the "cache" folder on the ramdrive disapeared, and every time I try to set it up again, it won't hold. Help?
FLAMING
When you can't think of logical arguments and are too dumb to STFU |
Del369
Caldari
Office linebackers
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.25 12:09:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Man1ac
Edited by: Man1ac on 11/03/2007 06:54:13
Edited by: Man1ac on 11/03/2007 06:53:10
How do we do it "the russian way", without ugly black windows and totally (well ) automated:
1. Install ramdisk, any
2. Copy all following scripts into the folder where we will run them (EVE folder will do).
3. Edit them, if needed (yes, they are pretty self explanatory).
4. Rename our EVE cache to cache.bak, create a junction pointing to our new cache on a RamDisk (blah-blah) - everything like in previous episodes
Script "ram-startup.cmd" (will run on computer startup):
Quote:
set MyRamDrive=B:
set MyEvePath=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE
mkdir %MyRamDrive%\cache
xcopy /d /c /i /k /r /e /h /y "%MyEvePath%\cache.bak" "%MyRamDrive%\cache"
set MyRamDrive=
set MyEvePath=
Script "ram-shutdown.cmd" (will run on computer shutdown):
Quote:
set MyRamDrive=B:
set MyEvePath=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE
xcopy /d /c /i /k /r /e /h /y "%MyRamDrive%\cache" "%MyEvePath%\cache.bak"
set MyRamDrive=
set MyEvePath=
Installing our scripts:
Start -> run -> gpedit.msc
Local Computer Policy -> Computer Configuration -> Windows Settings -> Scripts
Startup -> Add -> browsing where our ram-startup.cmd is -> OK
Shutdown -> Add -> browsing where our ram-shutdown.cmd -> OK
Closing Group Policy Editor, because we are done.
"Bonus" for people who never turn their computer off...
Script "ram-backup.cmd" (backs up our ramdisk every hour, if EVE is not running):
Run it with install parameter, and after that you can forget about it
Quote:
@echo off
set MyRamDrive=B:
set MyEvePath=C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE
for /f usebackq %%v in (`tasklist ^| find /i /c "exefile.exe"`) do set EvesRunning=%%v
if "%1"=="run" (
if %EvesRunning% equ 0 (
xcopy /d /c /i /k /r /e /h /y "%MyRamDrive%\cache" "%MyEvePath%\cache.bak"
)
)
if "%1"=="install" (
schtasks /create /sc hourly /mo 1 /ru "" /tn "Backup my EVE cache" /tr "\"%~0\" run"
)
if "%1"=="uninstall" (
schtasks /delete /tn "Backup my EVE cache" /f
)
set MyRamDrive=
set MyEvePath=
set EvesRunnning=
p.s. No copyrights, no warranties, use on your own risk
Have to say this thread delivers :) it's kep me busy for days.
I use Eve Launcher to run the gamne in a full window, so had to modify the file a bit, also got one of the other programs (RamDisk 5627 I think, it's using a qsoft driver) and it has the popups (gone now)
Everything works great, then i wanted to use the shutdown command (quoted) and it doesn't do anything, it runs fine, but with "0 files copied" after each line, any ideas ?
Thanks for starting this though DS, it's excellent, even if you are an evil fixie 
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Whats becoming so obvious these days, is, in this game it's not what you know, it's who you know, how sad 
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.29 08:19:00 -
[229]
Ok, so I'm a fanatic so I ordered GIGABYTE I-RAM from some retailer in Hong Kong (use ebay as starting platform) as no one else was selling (!!) and I strapped in with 2GB or RAM for EVE purposes only.
I must be honest, EVE is running better... but far from perfect when you hit crowded systems or fleet battles. I have tweaked prefs.ini as suggested, all of my settings are low, all of my EVE runs from RAMDISK and I still get lagged out just like any other pilot when I:
1) warp to huge fleet and need to load a grid (some pilots without RAMDISK even had it load faster for them, but I was in the top 15%)
2) Jump into crowded system... I still get emergency warps just like all the other pilots regardless of my RAMDISK
2) undock in Jita 4-4 Acctually most of the time my screen will go black and I need to restart my client when in Jita.
So now I have reached maximum of my EVE tweaking possibilities... I guess I'm at CCP mercy now. But I am sure that if I loose a ship due to lag it will be server side only
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.29 11:24:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Plague Black
But I am sure that if I loose a ship due to lag it will be server side only
Not the 14.4kb/s satellite link?
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.29 11:51:00 -
[231]
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Originally by: Plague Black
But I am sure that if I loose a ship due to lag it will be server side only
Not the 14.4kb/s satellite link?
BUSTED! I'm on 3,6kb/s mate, that's enough for EVE textual version right?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.29 12:41:00 -
[232]
maybe you should just phone a friend who has a faster connection...
F: "Right, there are some red ships, and I think they are shooting at you"
PB: "Are you sure? What's my shields like?"
F: "Shields? where's that?"
PB: "The little circle thing near the bottom, is it red?"
F: "Kinda... like, it's getting more red now"
PB: "****, quickly, warp to something"
F: "Wha? Whats that?"
....
And so on. Anyway, it might improve things ;)
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |
SilentSentinel
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:43:00 -
[233]
This thread is very informative. I did purchase ramdisk software and made a 512mb ramdisk. Everything is working fine. The only exceptions are at gates and some stations. However, I've been getting nice fps.
65-104 fps while in warps
37-74 fps at gates
vid settings are 16 x 12, 85 hz, 6800gt (softmod to Quadro FX 4000)
Cheers
SS
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Lord Hentacle
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Posted - 2007.03.30 13:10:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Plague Black
BUSTED! I'm on 3,6kb/s mate, that's enough for EVE textual version right?
Ok, stupid question for the devs....
Since we know they've tinkered with linux a bit, have any of them gotten drunk enough to try compiling the EVE client with AALib, just to say they did?
AALib is, or was, an ascii rendering library for 3D applications. Quake 1 looked pretty amusing with it, even moreso when played on a genuine vt220 terminal.
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Rochel Hakiri
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.30 16:49:00 -
[235]
<3 to Dark Shikari,
Thanks a lot DS!, i installed the ramdrive and put it on the ultimate test (last night), I even got the chance to shoot someone, and could actually control my ship!
thanks again DS!
<3
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Romulus Maximus
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.31 19:11:00 -
[236]
Right, ive had a bash at gettign this to work today. Following the steps of adding new hardware, directing to the .inf. But getting error saying the driver isnt compatable with xp64 :(
So how can i get around this ? Id be very grateful if someone could sort this out for me, as im quite the nub :p
Current RKK Ranking: (AMM15) Ace - 1000 kills
(Fox) targets are lewt, just not yet in can form |
Ticondrius
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.03.31 21:22:00 -
[237]
Running fine on Windows Vista Home Premium. Followed OP directions to the letter.
Only change I made was the batch files. I already had a starteve and cleaneve set of batch files in the eve dir that I link to to run EVE and simply added the needed commands to them.
RABBLE! RABBLERABBLE!!
MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls |
Braineater
Minmatar
BINFORD
Freelancer Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.01 03:48:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Braineater on 01/04/2007 03:51:21
Being a member of Binford Spacetools, I immediately  saw the potential of this method to be tweaked for MORE POWER (Arrh! Arrh! Arrh!)
This power comes as the Win32 version of the tar tool, which essentially just combines multiple files into on stream of data, in most cases used as a preparation for compression. Here, it tremendously speeds up the process of copying the files from and to the ramdisk, as the HDD only has to read and write one large file, instead of countless small ones.
Remember: this script isnt even beta, so expect massive screwups. It might even explode a few seconds into operation. If that happens, I'd appreciate you letting me know what happened. Of course, I take no responsibility whatsoever. On the other hand, it might just work. It DOES NOT and WILL NOT work if you use some weird multi-installation-shared-cache-folder-whatever-OMGWTFBBQ-setup.
If you use this script for the first time, make sure the following has been done:
- your "\EVE\cache" folder has been renamed to "cache2", also back it up somewhere else just to be safe
- you created a folder named "cache" at the root of your ramdrive (ex. "z:\cache")
- you have right-click-dragged that folder to your eve folder and created a junction (check the OP on how to do that)
- you have renamed that junction to "cache" (under Vista, you have to use the "ren" command if the Explorer crashes while renaming the junction)
- you have installed Win32-tar from http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/downlinks/tar-bin.php
Here it comes:
@echo off
REM edit line below with the full path to tar.exe
set TARBINARY="c:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin\tar.exe"
REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \)
set EVEPATH="e:\games\eve"
REM edit line below with your ramdisk drive letter (WITH trailing \)
set RAMDRIVE="z:\"
cd /d "%RAMDRIVE%"
IF NOT EXIST %TARBINARY% (
@echo Path to tar.exe binary invalid. Please check.
pause
exit
)
IF EXIST "%EVEPATH%\cache.tar" (
IF EXIST "%RAMDRIVE%\cache" rmdir /s /q "%RAMDRIVE%\cache"
@echo Extracting files, please wait
%TARBINARY% -xf "%EVEPATH%\cache.tar" --force-local
@echo Files extracted successfully
) ELSE (
IF EXIST "%EVEPATH%\cache2\prefs.ini" (
@echo Copying cache2-folder to ramdisk. This will only be done once.
pause
xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" "%RAMDRIVE%\cache"
) ELSE (
@echo Something went wrong, neither cache2-folder nor archive found!
pause
)
)
"%EVEPATH%\eve.exe"
REM cls
@echo (only press when you shutdown eve)
pause
@echo Archiving Cache-Folder...
cd /d "%RAMDRIVE%"
%TARBINARY% -cf "%EVEPATH%\cache_new.tar" --force-local cache
IF EXIST "%EVEPATH%\cache_new.tar" (
IF EXIST "%EVEPATH%\cache.tar" del /F /Q "%EVEPATH%\cache.tar"
ren "%EVEPATH%\cache_new.tar" "cache.tar"
@echo Archiving successful.
) ELSE (
@echo Something went wrong. Old archive has been kept.
pause
)
IF EXIST "%RAMDRIVE%\cache" rmdir /s /q "%RAMDRIVE%\cache"
exit
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Miter
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Posted - 2007.04.15 06:50:00 -
[239]
Two things:
1) Has anyone found a ramdisk solution for XP x64?
2) A modifcation of what another person recently said: You probably want to remove or move the old patch files from the cache directory and not be copying those around :)
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Heimer
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Posted - 2007.04.15 08:14:00 -
[240]
Hrm. I have found some beta software that has successfully made a ramdisk on my XP x64 system. Linkage to verbose page
Direct linkage to package.
It says it expires on July 1st for Vista users....not sure what happens for XP users.
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