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SamuraiJack
Caldari
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.04.15 14:27:00 -
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http://www.rocketdivision.com/download_starport.html
Personal edition does Ramdrives and is free. I use Alcohol anyway so iSCSI Starwind driver is already installed.
http://www.rocketdivision.com/downloads/starport.exe (the link for download they sent me)
I'll update when i hear how to get a personal licence.
SJ.
CLS Director
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SamuraiJack
Caldari
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.04.15 18:30:00 -
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http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Junction.mspx
This will also do symbolic links and is free.
SJ.
CLS Director
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Effei Gloom
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.26 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Effei Gloom on 26/05/2007 15:17:13
my workthrough for sinlge account user XP win32 (32MB RAMDRIVE)
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Kua Immortal
RSP Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:50:00 -
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Hi, I just completed the instructions in the OP. Now when I go to log in, the log in bar fills up and then sticks. I.e. I can't get into EvE (and my skill finished!!). Any ideas what I've done? Should I replace the backed up settings folder with the current (new?) one.
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Guillaume LeTestu
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:39:00 -
[245]
 Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Elliot Reid
Originally by: Belautis
This sounds like Eve ReadyBoost :). Anyone tried to run eve off a 2 or 4 Gb USB pendrive ? Is it a lot faster ? They've dropped down in price a lot, might be interesting to give that a go ;).
I just stuck EVE on my newly acquired USB2 pen drive and it was smooth. I didn't use my main or alt as they're .0 based and I didn't want to risk it. I had a mess around with an 800k sp alt in low sec and it was good. If I grow the stones I'll try it in a PvP op in .0 
Hmm I think USB2.0 operates around 40mb/s which is slightly slower (i think) than an average SATA drive will get, and definately lower than a 2 disk RAID-0 config.
The 40mb/s is just throughput. Since the cache seems to cause a problem with many small files, it's much more likely that random access is the real culprit. Your USB2.0 flash drive has it all over any spinning platter hard drive as far as seek and rotational latencies go. (They have NONE!)
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Keira Fordring
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.16 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Keira Fordring on 16/06/2007 21:50:05
Edited by: Keira Fordring on 16/06/2007 21:49:30
Just in case this thread isn't dead yet...
If anyone considers themselves a "tech. head" and would like to reinvent the wheel, there is a nice discussion of source code to create your own NTFSlink program in C++ here:
http://www.codeproject.com/w2k/junctionpoints.asp
Also a quick note, Microsoft recommends NOT DELETING junction points through Windows Explorer since this will most likely delete the contents of the target directory as well as the link.
Quote:
Never delete a junction point by using Explorer, a del /s command, or other file system utilities that walk recursively into directory trees. These utilities affect the target directory and all subdirectories.
Microsoft: How to create and manipulate NTFS junction points
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VeNT
Minmatar
Freelancer Union
Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:56:00 -
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not sure if this would be any faster (I'm not 100% on speeds) but if you've got a good fast USB2 memory stick maybe you could mount it at the ccp/eve/cashe folder (using windows disk manager, change the mount point to a folder rather than drive letter) or maybe one of those tasty IDE/SATA to CF converters (1-2GB CF cards are cheap atm)
this may or may not work as I've yet to try it out
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MellaRinn
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.06.19 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: MellaRinn on 19/06/2007 23:40:40
Shameless bump for the new Revelations batch file (I am not sure if it works yet):
{Original lifted from around page 3}
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@echo off
REM edit line below with your full eve path(no trailing \)
set EVEPATH=H:\Games\EVE
REM edit line below with your full ramdisk cache folder path (no trailing \)
set RAMPATH=S:\cache
@echo copying files, Please wait
xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H "%EVEPATH%\cache2" %RAMPATH%
@echo files copied
@echo removing machonet
rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH%\machonet
@echo machonet removed
"%EVEPATH%\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF
cls
@echo (only press when you shutdown eve)
pause
rmdir /s /q "%EVEPATH%\cache2"
xcopy /C /I /D /K /R /E /H %RAMPATH% "%EVEPATH%\cache2\"
rmdir /s /q %RAMPATH%
mkdir %RAMPATH%
exit
Copy the thing in the quote to a file: yourfilenamehere.bat and run, have fun :)
Any comments from the cmd gurus around would be greatly appreciated :)
EDIT: I have managed to get it working fine with this .bat file :)
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rotweiler
Gallente
United Warriors
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:19:00 -
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since eve's cache folder location has been changed, does that mean we need to modify one of the batch files ?
I been running eve through ramdisk for so long, i never wanna go back >.<
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Sleepkevert
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.20 10:23:00 -
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Yes... you will have to... I'm going to modify my bat file somewhere this afternoon when i got the time... i'll post it here when i'm done, and try and make it as universal as possible.
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MellaRinn
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: rotweiler
since eve's cache folder location has been changed, does that mean we need to modify one of the batch files ?
I been running eve through ramdisk for so long, i never wanna go back >.<
just use the code above I gave (only difference is the parameters for eve launch)
they willensure your cache folder stays where it was :)
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Dirk Fallows
Caldari
Galley-la
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Posted - 2007.06.22 20:18:00 -
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This allows you to have multiple installations of the eve client without any settings collisions.
The sysinternals Junction command is needed as well the script below.
Junction can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/Junction.mspx
Please note that this script can NOT handle a client called "Eve" (ie, default installation). It MUST to be renamed to something else, for example "Eve.Tranq".
Usage:
- Download and copy the junction.exe in the zip folder to the same folder as you save the script in. For example C:\program files\CCP\
The script can be saved under any name ending with .bat. I'll call it Run_eve.bat
- If the path to your eve installations isn't correct, please change the EveDir variable below.
- Modify the shortcut that runs your eve installation to point to the script. Easiest way is to simply make a shortcut of the script.
- Make a copy of the shortcut to "Eve(sisi)" or something.
- Modify the arguments of the shortcuts. The argument that you add will be the name of the folder that you want to run. In my C:\Program Files\CCP\ directory that's "Eve.Sisi" (for the sisi client) and "Eve.Tranq" (for the tranquility client) Example: <<"C:\program files\CCP\Run_eve.bat" Eve.Sisi>> for the sisi, and <<"C:\program files\CCP\Run_eve.bat" Eve.Tranq>> for the tranquility one (no << >> of course)
- Rename the old Eve cache|settings directory from "Eve" to "Eve.Tranq" if you have one (The script will complain about trouble running the junction.exe if there already is one, and tell you to delete it)
- Doubleclick one of the shortcuts.
@echo off
REM Change the following two to work on your installation of windows. Defaults should be good for most people
set EveDir="C:\Program Files\CCP"
set ApData="%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data"
if "%1" == "" GOTO END_BADLY
junction.exe -d %ApData%\CCP\Eve
mkdir %ApData%\CCP\%1
junction.exe %ApData%\CCP\Eve %ApData%\CCP\%1
if %errorlevel% LSS 0 GOTO :END_BADLY2
%EveDir%\%1\Eve.Exe
GOTO END
:END_BADLY
echo "You need to specify an argument for the bat, such as 'Sisi.EVE' or 'Tranq.EVE'"
pause
GOTO END
:END_BADLY2
echo "Error running junction. Please check that"
echo "a) junction.exe exists (preferably in the same directory"
echo "b) Try deleting the %ApData%\CCP\Eve directory"
pause
:END
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Morgina
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.04 11:35:00 -
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Hmm ... I almost had it working.
Using AR Soft RamDisk, set for 256Mb, but couldn't get it to become NTFS formatted, so obviously, the junction failed to create, EVE saw no cache folders and just created new ones.
If someone has figured out how to get the AR Soft RamDisk to become available as a drive, and with NTFS filesystem, please post an update here.
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Supreme Biovizier
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Posted - 2007.07.04 13:14:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
i: (DRIVE LETTER GOES HERE)
cd ..
cd ..
cd ..
cd ..
cd ..
OMFG DS you disappoint me. "cd \" anyone?
Apart from that, great guide.
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Loedem
Minmatar
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 21:58:00 -
[255]
I read through the first few pages but didn't see it mentioned. Has anyone tried the RamDISK that comes with Windows?? (Start/Control Panel/Add Hardware/Add from list/Ram drives/) You need to add the controller, then volumes...built in, beats having to pay for it...though untested it appears.
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Digital Anarchist
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Posted - 2007.09.16 12:52:00 -
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Did anyone do a benchmark to see what part of eve is more I/O intensive?
I'm thinking of putting the texture files on the ramdrive as well. But I have to buy a new stick of RAM 
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Digital Anarchist
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Posted - 2007.09.18 15:01:00 -
[257]
Is it possible to link individual files (not folders) in the same manner? I don't have enough ram to fit eve, but I have enough spare space to use the textures.
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Digital Anarchist
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Posted - 2007.09.19 08:10:00 -
[258]
Originally by: SamuraiJack
http://www.rocketdivision.com/download_starport.html
Personal edition does Ramdrives and is free. I use Alcohol anyway so iSCSI Starwind driver is already installed.
http://www.rocketdivision.com/downloads/starport.exe (the link for download they sent me)
I'll update when i hear how to get a personal licence.
Cool, it works for me.
You get a license with the same e-mail they send you.
Hm... I still can't figure out how to use file symlinks. It works for folders, but I need files. I can use up to 1Gb of ram for a ramdrive, but I'd need somewhere in the vicinity of 2 to fit all of Eve on it. So I just want to put the textures and the cache in the RAM.
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John Criten
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.06 08:44:00 -
[259]
Edited by: John Criten on 06/11/2007 08:44:15
here is a FREE yes FREE ramdisk prog that has no size limitation other then how much ram you have spare to use.
Linkage
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Melathonis Meradin
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Posted - 2007.11.06 10:25:00 -
[260]
Great topic is great!
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Solbright altalt
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Posted - 2007.11.06 11:52:00 -
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Hopefully this hack won't be needed any longer if the new feature does it's job right.
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Moghydin
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.06 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Moghydin on 06/11/2007 13:43:53
Originally by: Morgina
Edited by: Morgina on 04/07/2007 12:56:14
Edited by: Morgina on 04/07/2007 12:37:35
Hmm ... I almost had it working.
Using AR Soft RamDisk, set for 256Mb, but couldn't get it to become NTFS formatted, so obviously, the junction failed to create, EVE saw no cache folders and just created new ones.
If someone has figured out how to get the AR Soft RamDisk to become available as a drive, and with NTFS filesystem, please post an update here.
Edit
Man, this would be soo ******* simple on OS X, since there's whole BSD world available to us ... CCP please make a version of EVE that can run on OS X natively!!!!
Edit
Nevermind, OS X even has a better filesystem, so none of all this bllx would be needed :P
I have the same problem. I did everything as was described. Then I installed the program called "Junction Link Magic" and it can't create the junction, the program DS mentioned in the original post also refused to create the junction, because the RAM drive was for some silly reason created with FAT filesystem. When I try to convert the filesystem to NTFS, Windows asks for volume label and I have no clue what the hell it is as everything I enter results in "volume label incorrect" message and convert operation aborts. Any ideas?
EDIT:
Never mind. Sorry for being a n00b
It's usual convert procedure, and volume label was "Ramdisk". Silly me...
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Nidus
Caldari
The JORG Corporation
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Nidus on 10/11/2007 11:32:45
Moghydin, if you are still interested in running a ram drive you could try "Gavotte Ramdisk" posted somewhere earlier in this thread (edit: its posted on this page, and i was looking at all the other pages.. sorry John Criten), tough i can not remember where and by who. (download)
And then add
Quote:
@echo formating Z: to NTFS
REM change the drive letter (here, Z:) to that of your ram drive
FORMAT /FS:NTFS /FORCE /Q /V:RamDisk /A:512 Z:
on the start of your .bat file to quick format the ram drive to NTFS, or create an entirely new .bat to format the drive for you (although, it barely takes any time to format a 128mb ram drive)
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But has there been posted any links to a free program that allows for unlimited size NTFS ram drives without having to format the drive every time you reboot?
If not, is there any way to keep the format command in the same .bat as the "eve launch" while still only formating the first time you run it pr reboot?
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.11.10 12:44:00 -
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The EVE client has files in three different locations (assuming default setup):
- Program: CSIDL_PROGRAM_FILES\CCP\EVE
- Cache/settings: CSIDL_LOCAL_APPDATA\CCP\EVE
- Capture/logs: CSIDL_PERSONAL\EVE
The current EVE client is mostly CPU and memory bound and benefits most from faster CPU and more memory. In the EVE Online: Trinity expansion then a good graphics card will matter a lot since much more of the work is being offloaded to the graphics card than before.
Regarding perceived stuttering then you get most bang for your buck by putting the program folder onto a RAM drive. The stuttering is mostly caused by disk I/O reading textures and models from the .stuff files in the program folder, not by the client reading the cache. Defragmenting the hard drive also helps both for I/O from the program files and the cache.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
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prsr
Gallente
JuBa Corp
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:00:00 -
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I'm using a ramdisk script on the linux client and it's simple to setup, but most Linux users should probably check their /etc/fstab file to see if the filesystem where Eve resides has "noatime" in it's options.
So, for example, this:
/dev/md1 / ext3 defaults
Should become this:
/dev/md1 / ext3 defaults,noatime
I can post the ramdisk script too but i'm not so convinced it helps that much.
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