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![zwerg zwerg](https://images.evetech.net/characters/412931938/portrait?size=64)
zwerg
Caldari OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: zwerg on 23/02/2007 12:31:05
Originally by: Firane Its time for a new thread. I guess the only big change is the removal of stab monkey setups.
Non Faction Setup:
High: 5x 220mm Vulcan Autocannon II 1x Medium Diminishing Nos
Med: 1x 10mn MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 2x Gyrostab II 1x Power Diagnostic System II 2x Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers
Your thoughts?
Good Setup , but im sorry to say it is pre Rev ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif) as soon as you fit a Aux Thruster and a Medium Auto DMG Rig, you cant fit the Medium Dim Nos anymore, and a med dim nos only got 12km range, you will have a hard time to orbit @ 14 km and activate that thing.
Rev Setup:
5x 220mm Auto II, 1x Assault Missle Launcher II 2x LSE II, 1x Domination Warp Disruptor, 1x Domination 10mn MWD 2x Local Hull I-Stab, 1x Domination Nanofiber, 2x Domination Gyrostab.
1x Aux Thruster, 1x Projectile DMG ( cant remember name )
uhm a bit of expensive fit there, but as soon as youre experienced, you wont loose a vaga with the things you should do with it ( solo, 1vs>1 ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
Edit: with 2 Low Grade Snakes and 1 High Grade Snake, the Hardwirings for speed, and shaquil's speed enhance i get speed of 8.4 ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![Cartellus Cartellus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/750919308/portrait?size=64)
Cartellus
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Posted - 2007.02.24 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Edited by: zwerg on 23/02/2007 12:31:05
Originally by: Firane Its time for a new thread. I guess the only big change is the removal of stab monkey setups.
Non Faction Setup:
High: 5x 220mm Vulcan Autocannon II 1x Medium Diminishing Nos
Med: 1x 10mn MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 2x Gyrostab II 1x Power Diagnostic System II 2x Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers
Your thoughts?
Good Setup , but im sorry to say it is pre Rev ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif) as soon as you fit a Aux Thruster and a Medium Auto DMG Rig, you cant fit the Medium Dim Nos anymore, and a med dim nos only got 12km range, you will have a hard time to orbit @ 14 km and activate that thing.
Rev Setup:
5x 220mm Auto II, 1x Assault Missle Launcher II 2x LSE II, 1x Domination Warp Disruptor, 1x Domination 10mn MWD 2x Local Hull I-Stab, 1x Domination Nanofiber, 2x Domination Gyrostab.
1x Aux Thruster, 1x Projectile DMG ( cant remember name )
uhm a bit of expensive fit there, but as soon as youre experienced, you wont loose a vaga with the things you should do with it ( solo, 1vs>1 ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif)
Edit: with 2 Low Grade Snakes and 1 High Grade Snake, the Hardwirings for speed, and shaquil's speed enhance i get speed of 8.4 ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
What do you needa all that speed for? The only thing October Snow's pilots do is gate camping hagilur ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif) ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif) ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif) ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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![ICE SEA ICE SEA](https://images.evetech.net/characters/707978904/portrait?size=64)
ICE SEA
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:33:00 -
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i'm a noob for vaga and speed tank..
setup: high 5x 220mm t ii 1x heavy misslie luach
med: 1x 10mn MWD t ii 1x warp disruptor ii 1x large shield extender ii 1x med capacitor booster
low: 3 x gyrostab ii 1 x local istab 1 x rcu
no rig.
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![Cartellus Cartellus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/750919308/portrait?size=64)
Cartellus
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: ICE SEA Edited by: ICE SEA on 26/02/2007 16:36:26 i'm a noob for vaga and speed tank..
setup: high 5x 220mm t ii 1x heavy misslie luach
med: 1x 10mn MWD t ii 1x warp disruptor ii 1x large shield extender ii 1x med capacitor booster
low: 3 x gyrostab ii 1 x local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers 1 x rcu
no rig.
i test : High: 5x 220mm Vulcan Autocannon II 1x Medium Diminishing Nos
Med: 1x 10mn MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 3x Gyrostab II 2x Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers
this setup i only can fly 1 min with mwd.
so i changed something.
you though?
Hi
my comments on this. With vaga the amount of money you can spend changes a lot of things, more than in other ships.
I would personally spaw the 220 with 180, the difference in damage is minimum and the better tracking and higher ammo cap give you more dps.
This ship has not a great firepower, but is a fantastic tackler. For this reason i would get rid of the cap booster, your ship will be fast enought to having switch the MWD only for brief periods of time. An extra extender combined with your speed will increase your tanking incredibly (remember the only thing that can really hurt you are missiles). Perhaps using only 2 gyro and ad an extra stab. I doubt you can take a properly fit BS down with a vaga and even cruisers like Hurricanes are difficult to take. Vaga are meant to tackle, hold opponents for your friends to finish them or jump quickly on smaller prey and blast them. My thoughts, for waht they are worth ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
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![Deathbarrage Deathbarrage](https://images.evetech.net/characters/118129994/portrait?size=64)
Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: ICE SEA Edited by: ICE SEA on 26/02/2007 16:36:26 i'm a noob for vaga and speed tank..
setup: high 5x 220mm t ii 1x heavy misslie luach
med: 1x 10mn MWD t ii 1x warp disruptor ii 1x large shield extender ii 1x med capacitor booster
low: 3 x gyrostab ii 1 x local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers 1 x rcu
no rig.
i test : High: 5x 220mm Vulcan Autocannon II 1x Medium Diminishing Nos
Med: 1x 10mn MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 3x Gyrostab II 2x Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers
this setup i only can fly 1 min with mwd.
so i changed something.
you though?
referring to the last setup:
People should learn sometime that it's not smart saying you fly a certain setup that doesn't fit, really makes you look stupid
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![gesthapto lapenty gesthapto lapenty](https://images.evetech.net/characters/869795162/portrait?size=64)
gesthapto lapenty
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:40:00 -
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I think my setup is the following Highs: 5 x T2 220s, 1 x missile launcher Mids: Domi 10mn mwd, 2 LSE's, 1 20km Disrupter Lows: 3 x Domi Nanos and 2 Local Hull Instabs Rigs - forget the exact ones, but basically 1 for speed and one for turret damage.
Also have a full set of LG Snakes in the clones head. Not flown it all that much in pvp, but have been able to hang around finishing off a kill whilst a hostile gang warps in on me and always been able to get away. Not come across a hugin yet though :)
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![ICE SEA ICE SEA](https://images.evetech.net/characters/707978904/portrait?size=64)
ICE SEA
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Posted - 2007.03.06 03:31:00 -
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High: 5x 220mm Vulcan Autocannon II 1x Heavy acc missile luach (any type)
Med: 1x 10mn MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 3x Gyrostab II 1x Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers 1x Local Hull Nano
great Vaga fit ^^ i used it.![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
test 1 week ![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
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![XerZex XerZex](https://images.evetech.net/characters/864842436/portrait?size=64)
XerZex
Puppets on Steroids Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: ICE SEA High: 5x 220mm Vulcan Autocannon II 1x Heavy acc missile luach (any type)
Med: 1x 10mn MicroWarpdrive II 1x Warp Disruptor II 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 3x Gyrostab II 1x Local Hull Conversion Inertia Stabilizers 1x Local Hull Nano
great Vaga fit ^^ i used it.![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
test 1 week ![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
very similar to mine :)
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:14:00 -
[69]
how do you guys keep the cap with that setup?
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![Major Stuart Major Stuart](https://images.evetech.net/characters/235167792/portrait?size=64)
Major Stuart
Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.03.15 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum how do you guys keep the cap with that setup?
Im guessing the target is dead by that time or they dont lol.
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![Lanu Lanu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/309798243/portrait?size=64)
Lanu
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Posted - 2007.03.18 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: VanNostrum how do you guys keep the cap with that setup?
You don't have to run the mwd constantly. And without that consuming cap its actually quite easy if you don't get nossed :p
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![Streak Lightning Streak Lightning](https://images.evetech.net/characters/686251774/portrait?size=64)
Streak Lightning
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:48:00 -
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i know its soon to ask but now that 1.4 came out but will overdrive injectors become a viable module to use or is the nano/Istab combination still the best?
btw :what speeds are you guys gettin now?
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![DarknessInc DarknessInc](https://images.evetech.net/characters/934454958/portrait?size=64)
DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.03.20 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Streak Lightning i know its soon to ask but now that 1.4 came out but will overdrive injectors become a viable module to use or is the nano/Istab combination still the best?
btw :what speeds are you guys gettin now?
Before patch, I have 1x Domi Nano, 2x Domi Gyros and 2x Local I-Stabs. I went 3.3KM/S.
AFTER Patch. I go 2.7KM/S which is how it was with just one I-Stab. Im ****ed off. Instead of removing the other bonuses, they should have put in strict stacking penalties
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![Ione Hunt Ione Hunt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/103616194/portrait?size=64)
Ione Hunt
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.21 00:05:00 -
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T2 MWD, 1 nano, 1 inertia, 1 overdrive, +3% speed implant = 3.85km/s _______________
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![Lanu Lanu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/309798243/portrait?size=64)
Lanu
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Posted - 2007.03.21 21:50:00 -
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Using 2 local hull nanofibers and a t2 mwd ( no implants ) and I'm going 4.2km/s atm.. but I think I might switch one to a istab because I'm not that happy with my agility.
I'm not obsessing. I'm just curious. |
![Plutoinum Plutoinum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/972824850/portrait?size=64)
Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.21 22:15:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/03/2007 22:17:55 I made above 6k with named/tech-2 stuff on the testserver yesterday (without imps and just acceler. cntrl 4) But that was without damage mods just fitted for speed and good handling.
So that was with 2x Polycarbon Engine Housing I, 3x Local Hull Conversion Overdrives, 1x Nano and 1x Inertial Stab and tech-2 mwd.
Add implants, max-skill and faction stuff to it and invented tech-2 rigs, then it should be a lot faster, but you probably would take out some speed mods and put gyros in it.
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![mematar mematar](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1129517328/portrait?size=64)
mematar
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.22 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ione Hunt T2 MWD, 1 nano, 1 inertia, 1 overdrive, +3% speed implant = 3.85km/s
Yup, my Vaga does 3.5k/s with Named MWD and 1 of each speed mod without implants. Which is actually a decent speed now that not every ship does 10km/s <.<''
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![VanNostrum VanNostrum](https://images.evetech.net/characters/586300420/portrait?size=64)
VanNostrum
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Posted - 2007.03.22 08:29:00 -
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for 1 on 1 i thought of 2x RSD (phased muon) instead of 2x LSE, and 2x RSD rigs (inverted signal field projector I) RSD stats: Targeting range 33.56% Scan Resolution 33.56% per 1 phased muon rsd 90 sec lock time for a bs, 40 sec for BC
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![Wig Wam Wig Wam](https://images.evetech.net/characters/130289536/portrait?size=64)
Wig Wam
Fighting Tiggers
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Posted - 2007.03.27 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cartellus
What do you needa all that speed for? The only thing October Snow's pilots do is gate camping hagilur ![YARRRR!!](/images/icon_pirate.gif) ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif) ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif) ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
and Rancer... caught me tonight with a smartbombing Rokh ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
back on topic...
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![Vaal Erit Vaal Erit](https://images.evetech.net/characters/720103982/portrait?size=64)
Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2007.03.28 02:04:00 -
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I've been seeing a lot of curses and NOS-domis around, here's my anti-curse fit:
High: Dual 180mm AutoCannon II [100xBarrage M] Dual 180mm AutoCannon II [100xBarrage M] Dual 180mm AutoCannon II [100xBarrage M] Dual 180mm AutoCannon II [100xBarrage M] Dual 180mm AutoCannon II [100xBarrage M] Corpum A-Type Medium Nosferatu
Med: Warp Disruptor II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I [1xCap Booster 800] 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Empty Slot
Low: Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II Reactor Control Unit II Gyrostabilizer II
Rigs : Projectile Ambit Extension I \ Projectile Ambit Extension I \
1983 shield, 4.96/s, E/T/K/Ex=75/59/39/59 1604 armor, E/T/K/Ex=92/67/66/59 956.25 cap, +8.74/s, -41.487/s 2770.0 m/s 223.8 DPS
800 charges on a ship with about 950 cap is crazy. Goes 378 base with Nav V and has a free medium slot for whatever you want. I can tackle almost any NOS boat, no matter how tough. I can drop the gyro II for a local overdrive and put on a faction webber for the ultimate tackling ship. Don't forget you can get another 70 dps from 5x tech 2 light drones!
With cap charges you can even drop the NOS for an arbalest heavy missile launcher, drop the RCU II and still fit 2x falloff rigs as long as you have AWU 4.
Just another way to go, my setup is not a 1v1 setup or solo setup, I would definetly go for a crazy speed tank like every other post if I went out solo but I am hoping some of my invention buddies will make me some vagas cheap before I blow hundreds of millions of fittings and implants for one ship.
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![Megan Maynard Megan Maynard](https://images.evetech.net/characters/346840598/portrait?size=64)
Megan Maynard
Minmatar RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2007.03.28 03:38:00 -
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With the new percentage bonus on propulsion upgrades I was wondering what is the fastest you were able to get your vagabond up to? Shoot, i threw two basic PU's on my rifter and the thing is insanely speedier, I would assume the fastest ship in the game would also benefit. (Seeing as you get that nifty 5% per level bonus.) Don't think pvp, just pure speed.
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![Octaviun Octaviun](https://images.evetech.net/characters/712549952/portrait?size=64)
Octaviun
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.03.28 05:24:00 -
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My vagabond atm clocks 5kms a bit more then it use to with Zors custom hyper-link since before i had it pre-MWD/istab nerf it went 5.4 now with overdrives i hit 5kms and it doesn't warp as fast a crow anymore but its still decent enough to get me back to gates but the accleration is not as good as it was before i have to say :'( _________________________________________________
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![Master OlavPancrazio Master OlavPancrazio](https://images.evetech.net/characters/832130268/portrait?size=64)
Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.28 05:28:00 -
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Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 28/03/2007 05:25:35 [Rev] Vagabond
Buy a nanophoon
gist b type mwd 4x istab, 3x local hull od 3x mass reduction rigs...
goes 4k
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![Komaito Komaito](https://images.evetech.net/characters/647371390/portrait?size=64)
Komaito
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.12 10:43:00 -
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Sorry if thats a noob question but - did noone ever try overdrive injectors on a vaga?
What is their speed and acceleration bonus compared to inert stabs or nanos? ------------------------------------ radiation... too much radiation... |
![zoturi zoturi](https://images.evetech.net/characters/320408193/portrait?size=64)
zoturi
Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:19:00 -
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my setup, dont bother without snakes
5x dual 180mm II 1x corpum nos domi mwd, 28k distruptor, 2x LSE II 2x gyro II, pds II, domi OD, local inertia
rigs: mass reduce, falloff
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![Ryysa Ryysa](https://images.evetech.net/characters/576903693/portrait?size=64)
Ryysa
North Face Force Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: zoturi my setup, dont bother without snakes
5x dual 180mm II 1x corpum nos domi mwd, 28k distruptor, 2x LSE II 2x gyro II, pds II, domi OD, local inertia
rigs: mass reduce, falloff
same as me :)
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![K Raz K Raz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/127816675/portrait?size=64)
K Raz
Danish Trade and Mining Inc. Intergalactic Freelance Corporations
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Posted - 2007.04.12 11:39:00 -
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I have a rule of thumb to try and match the price of my fittings to the cost of the ship, ie; faction t2 ships gets good fittings and throwaway t1 stuf gets t1/named t1 fittings.
I had a nasty tendency to lose vagas (im on my 4.) until i revised my setup to the following:
Highs: 5x dual 180 t2, True Sancha NOS Meds: Named MWD, 20 km scram, True Sancha Web, Large shield extender Lows(*) 2x Gyro t2, PDU2, I-Stab, Nano Rigs: Kinetic shield, Projectile falloff
(*) I haven't changed the lowslots after the patch, but i think i can squeeze 2x istabs and 3x gyro2's in - Also, on my to-do list is getting a faction mwd and some speed implants
I don't use a shield booster, but a faction web instead, which keeps me outside webrange while nossing and webbing (TS nos and web are 14-15 km range) i wouldn't change the web for a booster/extender ever - it's what makes this setup nice, and makes me able to orbit with the mwd off.
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![Ryysa Ryysa](https://images.evetech.net/characters/576903693/portrait?size=64)
Ryysa
North Face Force Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.12 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: K Raz Highs: 5x dual 180 t2, True Sancha NOS Meds: Named MWD, 20 km scram, True Sancha Web, Large shield extender Lows(*) 2x Gyro t2, PDU2, I-Stab, Nano Rigs: Kinetic shield, Projectile falloff
(*) I haven't changed the lowslots after the patch, but i think i can squeeze 2x istabs and 3x gyro2's in - Also, on my to-do list is getting a faction mwd and some speed implants
Drop Kinetic rig for mass reduction rig unless you only live in the north. Replace nano with overdrive.
Quote: I don't use a shield booster, but a faction web instead, which keeps me outside webrange while nossing and webbing (TS nos and web are 14-15 km range) i wouldn't change the web for a booster/extender ever - it's what makes this setup nice, and makes me able to orbit with the mwd off.
Shield booster is bad, 2x lse II is good. That said, vagabond doesn't need web. If you want web ability, use huginn. By not fitting 2x lse II you are just gimping yourself.
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![Firane Firane](https://images.evetech.net/characters/224060132/portrait?size=64)
Firane
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.12 21:39:00 -
[89]
Actually finally started flying these. Been using this:
5x 220mm II 1x Corpum
1x Domi MWD 1x 28k 1x LSE II 1x Pithi Booster
2x Gyro II 1x OD II 1x Local Istab 1x Nano II
1x Mass 1x Agility
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![Ryysa Ryysa](https://images.evetech.net/characters/576903693/portrait?size=64)
Ryysa
North Face Force Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.12 23:15:00 -
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5x 180mm II + falloff rig does 15% more damage at falloff than 5x 220 II.
By fitting Nano II in low you effectively waste a slot. Rigs get stacking penalized with modules. A second mass reduction rig would give you a lot more than the nano, and you could fit an istab there instead for even more agility.
I'd say drop booster, fit pdu II instead of nano II, fit 2x mass rigs if you are in need for speed.
Result will be a lot better tank while sacrificing a very tiny bit of agility.
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