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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:39:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Jebizael Hunter
Also makes it quite hard to show fighting impartially, since you have to show one side as 'winning'.
Winning? I see them as "attacking". You may attack someone and still lose the fight. It just marks aggressor.
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Jake Noble
Amarr
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:40:00 -
[62]
Actually a very nicely done map well done.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:40:00 -
[63]
Nice map. Some suggestions/remarks though.
1) Turn down the intensity of the hexfield a little bit, it is a bit too bright.
2) Us different shades of the BoB colour for MC, FIX and Xelas.
3) For the frontline use rectangles with arrows inside indicating the direction of the recent change of the front. If no change use a slash inside the rectangle.
4) Mark the previous frontline in the upcomming maps so that it is easily visible how much and what changed from the last map to the current one.
5) Good job. Thanks for all the work!
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Jack Archer
Quantum Synergies
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:47:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Alizeee
It's the same map only with hexagons and alot ot arrows. Is this a joke ?
What do you want this map to show, people pretty much live and fight in the same places on either map.
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Frothgar
Caldari
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:53:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Jack Archer
Originally by: Alizeee
It's the same map only with hexagons and alot ot arrows. Is this a joke ?
What do you want this map to show, people pretty much live and fight in the same places on either map.
Looks cool, and if its ACTUALLY UPDATED to reflect events (Current one is pewp for current events) then its <3
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Torshin
TARDZ
Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:55:00 -
[66]
A lot of people keep commenting on the impartiality or lack there of in Josh's map. The thing is that this map like his should be controlled by the parties invovled in the events shaping 0.0. get the mods to sticky this and limit the posts to allaince officals posting territorial claims and such.
Offical Tardz Poo-litical Anal-yst
Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. |
Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:59:00 -
[67]
Request for change:
You can remove the AAA invasion of MC space, after that first weekend, AAA hasn't made any attempts to attack MC in their home.
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One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them.
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Haizum
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:03:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Troubadour
Edited by: Troubadour on 26/02/2007 15:33:47
it's misleading because in fountain, D2 aren't able to hold anything and aren't making any progress, perhaps the arrows should not be there or facing the other way. Also, Aftermath Alliance are doing far more consistent damage to D2 then Xelas in fountain, why no mention of them?
And in delve, AAA is doing nothing more then running big fleets through and then getting ganked, not really challenging any sov or anything. not much of a front if you ask me.
As far as the arrows go, I'm not too sure on that whole issue. However thanks for the mention of Aftermath Alliance, we're liking the rich supply of targets and as of yet have managed to remain largely hidden in the war, generally grouped as the "Co" in BoB, MC, FIX, Xelas and "Co".
We'll fight for our home, but as far as mentions on maps go - he's put PANIC on there (our ticker, not immediately obvious), and on the whole, Xelas does hold more Sov than Aftermath but as it is such a fragmented region I feel to make an accurate label would take a lot of investigation and bickering.
We're happy that we get to fight a lot, D2 have been very interesting so far, and our killboard proves we fight just as hard as the next guy/alliance.
It's proving to be a very interesting war really when viewed both from a constellation/system by system basis as we see it and viewed from a larger perspective over regions and the galaxy, a new map might be just the thing to help eliminate existing bias, and forums are indeed the place for new opinions and views to come forth. It's a very nice looking map, perhaps yes a bit hard to read precisely, changes to hexagon size and opacity should help that. Well done on such a nice creation, I look forward to seeing how it progresses.
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If you are ferocious in battle, remember to be magnanimous in victory.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:03:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 26/02/2007 17:03:47
Originally by: Diego Cali
Quote:
The main motivation behind the new political map is simply because we want to take away the only thing that****got, Joshua 4chan holds dear.
Oh dear, the map is the only thing i hold dear? Now i feel like Dr. Phill material 
Seems they still haven't gotten the pot kettle thing figured out yet, against racism yet quite happy to use****got as an insult. 
Originally by: TrippyX
Joshua has been slacking cause he doesn't wonna admit his favorite alliance BoB is losing. same happened during ASCN war when we were in period basis / fountain.
Technically they'd have to take a station/system sov for that. And yes, the same thing happened with ASCN, they didnt take any stations either. You also wouldn't believe the real the reason why the last update date was missed. 
Anyhows, the arrows are quite useful.
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Laythun
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:04:00 -
[70]
Wow. So much hate for just an alternative map...
*snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo
Black Lance Brother
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:06:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Helganstandt on 26/02/2007 17:02:30
I like this map better than the other one. I think it's a bit harder to see the individual constellations than Joshua's, but overall it just has a cooler feel to it.
I disagree with those that are saying the arrows are misleading, they actually give a better picture of what's going on. BoB and LV are defending their space. Regardless of what's happening on the battlefield, even if it's a stalemate, it shows who is the aggressors vs. the defenders. It even says "Regional Aggression" not "who's winning, who's losing, are they tied?"
So I humbly request that you keep those arrows as they are. If BoB and/or LV push the front line back and start invading their aggressor's space, then the arrows can be switched around. No need for rectangles or any other jargon that's just going to clutter up the map. This one is simple and to the point, and I like it that way 
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fugazii
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:06:00 -
[72]
cruel intentions hold IPS in geminate, not ESA.
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:09:00 -
[73]
I honestly doubt that the old mapmaker isnt able to maintain a somewhat accurate map.
The only difference with this new map seems to be wh controls it - just yet a propaganda method?
In any case, cudos for the effort and gl with it :)
I guess, as everything atm seems to have to be black and white, one side will look at the old map and the other at the new map :I Maybe you should get together with Josh and do 1 official map? I mean why involve "that" in the war too?
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:10:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
I honestly doubt that the old mapmaker isnt able to maintain a somewhat accurate map.
Being friends with Bob makes you biased by default.
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
I Maybe you should get together with Josh and do 1 official map?
 Ill leave that up to certain Gs members to answer.
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Sgt Jinxed
Obsidian Inc.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:11:00 -
[75]
Nice map !
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:13:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 26/02/2007 17:09:59
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
I honestly doubt that the old mapmaker isnt able to maintain a somewhat accurate map.
Being friends with Bob makes you biased by default.
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I
I Maybe you should get together with Josh and do 1 official map?
Ill leave that up to certain Gs members to answer.
Well i mean, maybe then you can update it even more, or do more pew pew in game and we wont have to check 2 maps (or one that may or may not be biased strongly in one factions direction* assuming both parties "bend" it to suit their view)
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Constantine Arcanum
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:19:00 -
[77]
Nice map.
I give you 6/7 stars.
You win.
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Valeo Galaem
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:25:00 -
[78]
Might I recommend adding a graphic date stamp to the map as well. I keep an archive of all the EVE maps and have my own naming convention. If the file names get mucked up people would still like to know when the map is from.
Thar be Pirates
You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe
Your Wallet has been emptied!
CONCORD Encryption Methods |
Zeno Kang
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:25:00 -
[79]
That's a very nice map, indeed.
It reminds me of Star Fleet Battles.
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Originally by: Blue Pixie
Not wanting to get wardec'd = n00b
Not wanting to get Concord'd = 1337
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Crellion
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:29:00 -
[80]
New cell graphic is very cool.
Accuracy is very poor.
Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |
Herculite
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:33:00 -
[81]
Quote:
We want to tear down every aspect of the old order of EVE, We want to remove Bigotry, Racism and this "Old Boys Club" Attitude from the game, A new map is just one part of this cleansing.
The goons are a force of PC in space?
No matter who wins I think this song, older than most of our player base, sums it up nicely.
Quote:
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
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Black Torment
Caldari
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:34:00 -
[82]
The only thing I don't like about this map is everything is FAR too big. The text is too big, the hexagonal cells are huge, its an eve map for short sighted people! :D
Don't get me wrong its a great map, the arrows are a brilliant touch, but if you made it less big, bright and imposing itd be a lot easier to read.
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DamienV
Caldari
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:37:00 -
[83]
A grid system is an excellent way to go. This one however is very hard to see the stars. I know personally I try to learn to locate things by constellations and how the lines connect together. Here its almost impossible to do so by comparing in game to out of game.
I will be interested to see what happens after the war is over, if Goon will remain with good reporting on combat movements of all forces in the entire universe. Right now anyone who spends more then 5 minutes on the forums could figure out who is with who and who is attacking where.
No offence, but I believe goon is trying to "steal the spotlight" now that its easy to do so.
Do a continuing good job with this new map concept and I'd definitely be happy to see weekly or bi-weekly updates as you've promised.
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:37:00 -
[84]
Originally by: The Beatnuts
Edited by: The Beatnuts on 26/02/2007 15:48:50
Originally by: Ty'derian
Exuro Mortis? is this the alliance with the stabbed commandships? lol...
Damn i didn't believe my corp mates when they told their sleipnirs had stabs and nanos!
God, I can feel the pain from here.
I seriously just fell out of my chair laughing at your utter idiocy. Coming from a group that we have been smacking the crap out of over the past few days and is totally reliant on nanosetups in small gangs, you really have no place to talk. By the way, you might want to update your killboard - you're down 67 losses for only 23 kills in the past six days. I DARE you to find proof of us using nano-fitted and stabbed Command ships, because you will find precisely zero.
I remember when AAA used to be good, before they had to make up fantasy claims to explain why they can't hold their own in small fights.
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Einheriar Glad
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:41:00 -
[85]
I like the real map better ... than this innovating political map which is both a functional tool and an informative addition, which contains as much relevant political information as can be transcribed onto a two dimensional map of New Eden by Goonswarm.
- Glad
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Urduar
UrdCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:42:00 -
[86]
Sweet looking map, a couple of suggestions if they're wanted though..
- The map looks more like a finished poster than an informational tool due to all of the color effects in it (the dramatic gradients, shadow effects on the hexagons and such). Maybe as others said, turning the opacity down a bit on all of that, leaving regions primarily their alliance's color with a somewhat subtle hexagon effect would let people see what's going on more clearly.
- The hexagon motif would be perfect to add a bit more information to the map, such as currently active systems and such. Basically, if a lot of fighting is going on in a system, have the hexagon be "lit up" (maybe white with a subtle yellow and orange glow around it). Hexagons that have changed soverignty since the last map could also be tinted darker. The end effect of this would be that instead of arrows, which could be argued as biased, it would look more like the frontline was a grassfire burning away an alliance's territory, with the burned (taken over) systems left in it's wake.
Overall, kudos for a great map though!
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Dregann
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:43:00 -
[87]
Nice map but i prefer Joshua's
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:47:00 -
[88]
I like the look of this map - however Joshua's map had much more detail about other things happening in the universe. It's not all about BoB vs the Coalition you know...
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:49:00 -
[89]
I like the map but would remove the arrows as they remind me too much of the start of the old sitcom Dad's Army and they also are a bit biased in that the attacker would always look to be winning.
Overall though very attractive and clear.
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Lin Dze
PsyCorp
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 18:02:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Crellion
New cell graphic is very cool.
Accuracy is very poor.
You're just upset that he didn't give war credit to Cult of Gank in GW. Especially since when the fleet is there, the cows have gone home.
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