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SeVenNight Deng
Tai-Chi
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2016.06.30 06:47:14 -
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Three things need to do to "fix" this patch.
1. Give the option to turn off the docking animation or just simply remove it
2. Fix the camera problem when undocking.
3. Listen to the feedback from players of your "shadow of serpentis", fix bugs and improve the heavy grinding and rewards lack of incentive problems.
cheers,
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Pumeia Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2016.06.30 06:51:50 -
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Rolder Slaton wrote:The Serpentis event seems like a ridiculous amount of grinding and tedious site finding/running for how little the reward is. Especially when most of the time the individual sites give you just about nothing.
Yea, just checked mine, my "opportunities" in this event are ALL to kill Angel Cartel stuff. No idea what that gotta do with serpentis but okai.
Considering the fact that our biggest enemy lives in angel space that excludes me also completely from the event as an individual. fair system you got there!
July 10....a magic date by now. after 8 Years...
to the "workaround" with the captains quarters, i'm not willing to use a workaround for a product i play just cuz a feature literally NO ONE likes and that harms people physicla is refused to be taken out. at that moment there is not only something wrong with that feature but as well with the mindset of the company we feeding here (for years).
when people gettin hurt physicly with sickness by a stubborn developer we for sure know how they really "care" about their playerbase. as someone already wrote before: actions speak louder then words. |
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate
REFORD
58
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Posted - 2016.06.30 06:52:04 -
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Cambria Killgannon wrote:Wow - this camera... what were you guys thinking?
drinking or smoking is better to describe dock animation.
vikings love mushrooms
Lauda about CCP New camera:
It's a sh.tbox! It zooms like crazy and centering before rotation is a disaster. It's amazing - all these dev teams, and you make a piece of crap like this.
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Sgt Ocker
Kenshin.
DARKNESS.
1071
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:08:18 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:Kasimir Wulf wrote:Mesacc wrote:2005 player here. This will most likely be my last post since my subscription runs out in a day or 2. I cancelled 2 accounts after the removal of the old camera and will not be resubscribing until the new camera is brought up to the quality of the old one. Lack of custom tracking position and tracking camera snap speed along with zoom acceleration are my biggest issues and the fact that these are being ignored while you work on useless docking animations that are clearly hated by the player base does not make my returning look promising. I hope you get your priorities in order because I would love to play EVE for another 10 years. you do know that theres an option to customize it to the feel you want right? but i guess actually looking into the settings tabs to difficult of a task for you. cya you won't be missed. That's the funniest thing I've read all day. A slider that goes from Smooth to Stiff - Isn't really "customization" it simply speeds up or slows down 1 aspect of an otherwise not very user friendly camera. It's the same as the UI customization features that allow you to choose between a "selection" of color schemes that were all decided upon by someone else. Chances are, the UI/art department doesn't have the cross section of disabilities needed for them to personally understand all the accessibility issues others will have. So that's why it's important for them to proactively learn about such things and take them into consideration so that people like me don't have to harp on for ages about how you're making your game unplayable to us. Unfortunately when so many of us told them that the new UI was making the game very difficult for us to play, they just responded by telling us how typical people handle their UI and disregarded the fact that a substantial portion of the people complaining where not typical and as such their responses were both insulting, inappropriate and unhelpful. And here we are again.
Sorry but no it isn't, color schemes are actually a good addition. Thet offer choice
The new camera is only useful to a minority of the player base, by design. (those who make and upload free advertising for CCP)
It has less usable features then the old, is clunky and often very unresponsive.
The tactical overlay with its curved lines linking ships to distance, makes absolutely no sense, leave that to the tactical camera, the overlay has. had different uses.
And something else I just noticed - The new slow motion undocking timer, turns off the tactical overlay when you undock.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings but that simple slider is not "customization" of the new camera. It is just a slider to reduce one of the worst aspects of it.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Davina Sienar
The Misinterpretation of Silence
105
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:41:40 -
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before color shemes we used to have free option to "make" our own color "sheme"
guess that was too complicated for some people 
btw those fekkin tooltips blocking my view in hangar, telling that the 700 missiles are 700 missiles and
are maybe worth xy amount of isk are still makin me angry
as said before
if u want generation console / smartphone to be the new playerbase in a pc only game...
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Steyr Augmented
Hillarity Ensues
Army of New Eden
2
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:41:49 -
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Nearly 20 Pages of people saying they don't like the new camera thing. Atleast give us an option to turn it off, I personally don't like it, you can't stop it.
I like the option for the color schemes, don't know why that went away.
The jukebox would be nice to have back. (inb4 who uses sound?)
The PVE events are unfair to new players, multi-boxers have the upper hand in this event.
Event is poorly balanced. I know CCP can do better than this. |
Tao Dolcino
EVE University
Ivy League
471
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:46:46 -
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Davina Sienar wrote:if u want generation console / smartphone to be the new playerbase in a pc only game... keep on the "good" work
That's what they indeed want.
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Tao Dolcino
EVE University
Ivy League
472
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:55:21 -
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Steyr Augmented wrote:The PVE events are unfair to new players
Exactly, it's the exact opposite of what it should be doing : being accessible to the newcomers, often isolated and unable to complete an incursion or to kill sleepers ! . The vets get these poor rewards they don't need when they'd be so useful to the newcomers !
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate
REFORD
62
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Posted - 2016.06.30 08:03:13 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:Thead Enco wrote: Does anyone at CCP even read the sisi forums?. If you know ahead of time you going to have some game play issues why bother adding those changes to the game when it will only cause you heartburn and grief on the forums? it's like you guys like wasting time for no reason. They sadly certainly have no choice, because they have no decisional power. The "commercial director" or other person who has no clue about EVE has taken the decision and the devs have to do it and to shut up. Then they have to be hated by us because they have spent so much time to make some useless crap which is damaging the gameplay. They then try to dodge pathetically by saying "it was not my departement" and other evasive manoeuvres. But we should address our anger directly at the true responsible for that regular fiasco : THE BOSS. Hey boss of CCP, come here and discuss openly with us if you have a bit of courage. Take your responsability and take the blame for your mess. don't hide behind the devs.
No performances such a "massive capsulers suicide" or "Burn Jita" will not help us.
We all just need to cancel our subscriptions. We can easily renew our subscriptions when the most game issues will be fixed.
What do we lose? Most of us still can not normally play EVE.
Lauda about CCP New camera:
It's a sh.tbox! It zooms like crazy and centering before rotation is a disaster. It's amazing - all these dev teams, and you make a piece of crap like this.
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Yngvar ayShorn
Einheit X-6
1067
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Posted - 2016.06.30 08:34:55 -
[340] - Quote
*raises hand*
The new docking/undocking camera is awful. Takes to much time, makes no sense if you switch your ship in hangar.
It's just annoying.
Remove it or make on/off toggle.
I don't like this feature.
21 Tage EVE testen! -->> Klick mich <<--
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Calynx
The Universe Belongs To Me
0
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Posted - 2016.06.30 08:57:30 -
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Kill Drifter BS with a Frigate M'kay.. |
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
60
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Posted - 2016.06.30 08:58:47 -
[342] - Quote
For some reason the art department or whatever they call themselves have way too much say in what happens in this game, you can have the best looking game ever made and that means nothing, you go oooh aaah for a minute and get over that pretty quickly especially if the gameplay is getting interferred with, eg camera, docking/undocking/changing ship, stupid gong noises and flashy animations, slowing down things like changing ships and changing zoom on undock. I know some of these things were called "bugs" and others have been since changed.
If the people that made the changes to the undocking animation acually played the game they would know that you need to be able to see if there is anything on the undock and where it is, the overview only tells you how far away it is and not where it is located. The possibilty of getting jumped off station and whelped has increased since the last patch, great for discouraging anyone to undock.
The epitome of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
1396
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Posted - 2016.06.30 09:08:34 -
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Sergey Hawk wrote:We all just need to cancel our subscriptions. We can easily renew our subscriptions when the most game issues will be fixed. What do we lose? Most of us still can not normally play EVE.
I suspect we would lose both our voice and our self respect.
Sorry, but I'm too old to roll over in the face of prejudice. |
Ksitigarbha
Lithos Sarkophagos
2
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Posted - 2016.06.30 09:44:02 -
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You made something to make people who pay for your service feel physically bad.
Doesnt mater if its only 1 person or a dozen - that should be your priority to not make that happen...
Why this isnt a 1st hotfix that should be made few hours or at least on the next day just blows my mind.
Its like this
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Alyssia Benar
Vision Inc
Hole Control
56
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Posted - 2016.06.30 09:54:26 -
[345] - Quote
Guess what, that is not the worst. Corpmate has to kill 50 (yes, FIFTY) Sleeper BS........ (Would reward him 2k points) |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
269
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:17:18 -
[346] - Quote
can confirm: the docking animation is nauseating and irritating to boot. Login-in multiple accounts I get the feeling (besides slight nausea) that I'm undocking, so panic-mode to see whether there are bad guys around. |
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate
REFORD
63
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:21:13 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:
I suspect we would lose both our voice and our self respect.
For 3 month people write about awful camera and did ccp heard our voice?
NO!
People test features on SiSi and write: "I feel motion sickness with this dock animation" and what?
New stupid animation come on TQ
Did they heard our voice?
NO!
And the new camera is only one example.
So where do you see here respect to you?
I see only how ccp f.ck its customers and waste they money.
I think I lose respect for myself if I continue to take all this crap to which ccp enforce us.
Lauda about CCP New camera:
It's a sh.tbox! It zooms like crazy and centering before rotation is a disaster. It's amazing - all these dev teams, and you make a piece of crap like this.
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marVLs
743
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:42:14 -
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Notes on serpentis event:
- there should be clear info about prizes (what may be in boxes etc)
- for such long event duration there should be more boxes (at least 5)
- too much grindy (cut points requirements in 1/3)
- more mission types (lack of curier, ice and gas mining, probing, salvaging and even suicide ganking - would be fun and more variety like "kill 50 frigs with large railguns" or rep some structure or ship which serpentis shoot at)
- more missions available at one time (like 6 instead of 4), with more ship size variety, there should be missions for newbies with lame frigs and for veterans that requires pirate BSs or marauders
- option to cancel one mission per day which player dont want
- maybe give chance for faction spawns and loot (like in anoms, but drop down spawning rate of normal sites so item prices wont fall down) |
Makareena
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2016.06.30 10:46:36 -
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Sergey Hawk wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:
I suspect we would lose both our voice and our self respect.
For 3 month people write about awful camera and did ccp heard our voice? NO! People test features on SiSi and write: "I feel motion sickness with this dock animation" and what? New stupid animation come on TQ Did they heard our voice? NO! And the new camera is only one example. So where do you see here respect to you? I see only how ccp f.ck its customers and waste their money. I think I lose respect for myself if I continue to take all this crap to which ccp enforce us.
Few years back i was seeing around 40k players online at times, now i dont see it over 20k. And i was wondering what is going on... Guess many players did exactly that and stopped playing of self respect - because actually why should i still propel someone with money (as i use PLEX, so not my money but someone elses) that says "thank you for your feedback". Im cool with changes loved the begining of EVE, loved the concept, loved the game it was really good (the game was awesome and i didnt need to tell CCP what i think is good and what is not, what they need to change etc. (and i had many trial account from 2002). That was one of those products that you like or not and dont give a damn whos making it or what he thinks of you.
Moronic to say - that has changed... |
John Henke
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2016.06.30 11:12:33 -
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marVLs wrote:Notes on serpentis event:
- there should be clear info about prizes (what may be in boxes etc)
- for such long event duration there should be more boxes (at least 5)
- too much grindy (cut points requirements in 1/3)
- more mission types (lack of curier, ice and gas mining, probing, salvaging and even suicide ganking - would be fun and more variety like "kill 50 frigs with large railguns" or rep some structure or ship which serpentis shoot at)
- more missions available at one time (like 6 instead of 4), with more ship size variety, there should be missions for newbies with lame frigs and for veterans that requires pirate BSs or marauders
- option to cancel one mission per day which player dont want
- maybe give chance for faction spawns and loot (like in anoms, but drop down spawning rate of normal sites so item prices wont fall down)
I do agree with these notes. |
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ChaseTheLasers
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
96
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Posted - 2016.06.30 11:37:14 -
[351] - Quote
First time I've unsubbed in 8 years. Sorry guys, but this is unbearable.
First it was the jump camera that meant I couldn't play for the same periods I used to, and now these new camera animations make everything much worse.
Fix them both and I'm back right away. I just can't justify paying for my accounts when playing makes me feel physically sick.
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Elmore Jones
60 Squadron
43
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Posted - 2016.06.30 11:40:06 -
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I don't understand the fixed mission types and being different for each capsuleer design for the serpentis event. For example my newbro scanning alt has all combat + mining goals to go for but no relevant skills so i cannot participate. My industrial/trading alt has a mix of combat and (i think) exploration combat things to do so cannot participate due to no real sp in those areas. My combat toon is involved in wh warfare atm and likewise will not participate.
I would like to be involved but the design is actually locking me out due to these random fixed objectives. I'd love to know why this was thought to be a good idea.
+++ Reality Error 404 - Reboot Cosmos +++
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Sky Marshal
Core Industry.
Circle-Of-Two
130
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Posted - 2016.06.30 11:46:24 -
[353] - Quote
After the gate animation, now the docking animation. In both cases, they hurt in a way or another depending of the player.
But in both cases, I am pretty sure that CCP won't remove it nor they will give an option to disable it. They already stated that they want to remove more options of the Graphic section...
In my case, the gate animation is a real strain for me because of this damn bubble of light at the center, but the docking one isn't problematic because I activate the galactic map before it is completed, sometimes even before it begin. Initialy I do that to reduce GPU workload since the deletion of the "Load Station Environment" option... I guess this habit will be more useful than expected. |
Shlongky
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.30 11:53:43 -
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- love the wallet interaction, nice touch
- Actually like the docking camera, just once (on docking) GÇô Players can normally find me around Jel if youGÇÖd like to shoot me for saying so. That said the undocking camera should be made a destructible object. 
- Daily opportunities had me logging on every day GÇô usually I just check in every few months to see if all my characters have skills training.As someone that doesnGÇÖt have many hours left in the day, I love just being able to have a quick fight, get a meaningful reward and log off. I havenGÇÖt found one of these event sites yet, but IGÇÖm keen to give it a chance.
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Mackenzie Hawkwood
Event Horizon Expeditionaries
Apocalypse Now.
46
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:09:07 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:7 pages in 12 hours and much of it requesting ONE (docking animations - ON / OFF) thing be altered. Our focus with the settings menu right now is on reducing complexity, rather than adding it. Generally, we won't add a toggle for a new graphic feature unless it is too heavy for low-end machines, and even then we'd prefer to tie it to an existing setting. However, your feedback about what you do or don't like about the docking animation can help direct future iteration on it, so if it bothers you, please let us know specifically why.
another non reply to go down with $1000 jeans (Incarna),
'No - make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ,
An on/off toggle would be a cop out (Jump animation) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3264687#post3264687
The port of X-tree gold (Unified Inventory) which was eventually patched back to previous useable state.
The announcement that the introduction of an ingame browser would be the best thing since sliced bread only for it to now be removed as it is no longer supported. (did the bread go stale?)
The list goes on and on, feedback is given on sisi only for it to be ignored, then the exact same feedback is listed again in the release feedback thread. Do the dev's expect the feed back to change when it is released in the wild?
Over all I wish for the supposed feature to have an on/off toggle for I wish to have the choice, same as I have the choice to use or not use the captains quarters, the choice to use the real map or the fail map, the choice to use the real probe scan or the pretend one.
Some want the choice for health reasons, some want the choice for performance reasons and some of use just want the choice to play the game our own way.
Why a switch on/off?
Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying.
In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless.
Simple as that. - Kina Ayami
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Darkblad
940
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:19:04 -
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Thank you ccp, for your continued support of players that use one of the supported client languages because of lacking engllsh skills.
Support like no thread for feedback on this update's changes and issues.
Support like no localization of key elements from this update's "most important" feature. Right on the character selection screen.
Do you think that (like Phantom stated) "most of this language community's members can understand english anyway" is a valid excuse for this continued decrease of support (but making promises in that regard anyway)?
NPE-ISD-Übersetzt!
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Darkblad
941
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:28:14 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Our focus with the settings menu right now is on reducing complexity, rather than adding it. More features were a design goal in another part of the settings, right?
That part rose to the current state with high speed (and now there's the issue of +¦acking space for new sound reatures - like this one)
Anyway, just gather feedback on how to make that animation more bearable for players and hope that they will lose interest in making it more bearable, so you can move on to the next great thing.
Other than with the audio settings, there's still some vertical space left in all three columns of the graphics settings, though.
(load station environment anyone?)
NPE-ISD-Übersetzt!
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Test Alliance Please Ignore
14249
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:32:08 -
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marVLs wrote:Notes on serpentis event:
- there should be clear info about prizes (what may be in boxes etc)
- for such long event duration there should be more boxes (at least 5)
- too much grindy (cut points requirements in 1/3)
- more mission types (lack of curier, ice and gas mining, probing, salvaging and even suicide ganking - would be fun and more variety like "kill 50 frigs with large railguns" or rep some structure or ship which serpentis shoot at)
- more missions available at one time (like 6 instead of 4), with more ship size variety, there should be missions for newbies with lame frigs and for veterans that requires pirate BSs or marauders
- option to cancel one mission per day which player dont want
- maybe give chance for faction spawns and loot (like in anoms, but drop down spawning rate of normal sites so item prices wont fall down)
I'll add one (I also posted this on Reddit):
Stop trying to reinvent the damn wheel with these events. Crimson Harvest work, was well received, was fun, had useful rewards and fostered a whole lot of pvp and player interaction, even cooperation in some cases. Every event since has sucked in comparison. It should be failry obvious that you should just use the Crimson Harvest style system instead of this new nonsense.
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Alyssia Benar
Vision Inc
Hole Control
56
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:43:21 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
I'll add one (I also posted this on Reddit):
Stop trying to reinvent the damn wheel with these events. Crimson Harvest work, was well received, was fun, had useful rewards and fostered a whole lot of pvp and player interaction, even cooperation in some cases. Every event since has sucked in comparison. It should be failry obvious that you should just use the Crimson Harvest style system instead of this new nonsense.
Agreed.
This new "event" is just a stupid grind. Might aswell farm reputation to buy purple items in faction store. |
v3locity
Spatial Distortion Inc
8
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:52:42 -
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Tao Dolcino wrote:
Is that your version of immersion ? Does that appear even slightly realistic, believable to any of you ? And this scene is repeated for each ship entering in station ? And what if you own many ships and want to bord another one ? You suddenly see yourself arriving AGAIN in the station with the new ship ????
It is truly sad when most, far more than half of the comments were "put the crap in if you have to, just give me a way to turn it off", yet they still put it in.
I can spin my own ship, I don't need a bad trailer video shoved up my bunghole every time I log in, dock, change ships.
What is really pathetic is that CCP thinks this is entertainment. Guess this is game over. They think it's cool, so more will come. |
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