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Tao Dolcino
EVE University Ivy League
478
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:20:35 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:I understand that Team Psycho Sisters are looking at options for changing the docking animation in response to the feedback here.
Of course i was awaiting an answer like that. 95% of the feedback from the players asks for a toggle, and you will "change the animation"
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Makareena
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:21:07 -
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I found one of the Psycho Sisters \o/ |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1408
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:28:36 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former. I have the PLEX ready. |
Tao Dolcino
EVE University Ivy League
480
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:29:11 -
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Psycho Sisters, if you are afraid to answer us directly about the toggle, because you don't know what to say, let me help you : http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F564x%2F5a%2Fa9%2F43%2F5aa943d3628ba4e85352b620de4cfa44.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F452189618812305371%2F&h=476&w=421&tbnid=WoblA2GR4v896M%3A&docid=gPM9CSw2GBCI3M&ei=CEh1V5_WOuv-6ATG1rnAAw&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=3130&page=1&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=0ahUKEwif-qqTldDNAhVrP5oKHUZrDjgQMwggKAEwAQ&bih=626&biw=1152
CCP 2015 : "Fluff is good"
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Makareena
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:37:07 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former. I have the PLEX ready.
If your smartphone was ok for 3 months, and the manufacturer would release a patch to it that makes it crap, or makes it look bad in comparison to the newer one (iphone tactic)... Would you pay them ADDITIONAL money to make it work good AGAIN ? |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1408
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:43:39 -
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Makareena wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former. I have the PLEX ready. If your smartphone was ok for 3 months, and the manufacturer would release a patch to it that makes it crap, or makes it look bad in comparison to the newer one (iphone tactic)... Would you pay them ADDITIONAL money to make it work good AGAIN ? You might not, but that's because you're not used to having to pay extra to cover your disabilities. It's often just the way things get done. |
Valkin Mordirc
2141
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:46:33 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Kremlath wrote:I realize that, I'm just pulling your chain, perhaps that doesn't come through well. The main point is I'd like a response about the camera issue. I don't have any details to share, but I understand that Team Psycho Sisters are looking at options for changing the docking animation in response to the feedback here.
WOO!
For the Docking Camera,
I said it once, but, the camera is to far zoomed in, and it only really need's to happen once. I understand that you guys don't want to remove it entirely, but for the most part I think people are having a knee-jerk reaction and it's gaining momentum in the wrong direction see as the post here are becoming more and more hostile.
But thanks for listening though and letting us know that the change is incoming.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Makareena
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2016.06.30 16:50:17 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Makareena wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former. I have the PLEX ready. If your smartphone was ok for 3 months, and the manufacturer would release a patch to it that makes it crap, or makes it look bad in comparison to the newer one (iphone tactic)... Would you pay them ADDITIONAL money to make it work good AGAIN ? You might not, but that's because you're not used to having to pay extra to cover your disabilities. It's often just the way things get done.
Shouldnt be like that, and its this way because people are fueling this sort of "fixing" things. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2627
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Posted - 2016.06.30 17:20:37 -
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Yay, the cyno out sounds and cyno landing sounds are back. \o/
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Tyran Crow
OMFGWTF Unlimited
30
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Posted - 2016.06.30 17:20:37 -
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Since the patch I have been making much more use out of the Captains Quarters.. has anyone else noticed that you cant rotate/zoom in/out on the fitting screen or when looking at an image of a ship in the viewer? Once you switch to the hanger everything functions normally... Not only did the docking animation addition break my eyes it also appears to have broken other #*^$ too. |
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Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
104
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Posted - 2016.06.30 17:29:26 -
[401] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Kremlath wrote:I realize that, I'm just pulling your chain, perhaps that doesn't come through well. The main point is I'd like a response about the camera issue. I don't have any details to share, but I understand that Team Psycho Sisters are looking at options for changing the docking animation in response to the feedback here. I really was against the docking animation since it hit SISI, but now that I see that you just added it to troll us, I think it actually fits eve.
First we get told "no toggles" next we get a toggle for something else and now you tell us that team psycho sisters, which already did amazing work on not finishing the new map and the new probe scanner window, considers making the docking animation worse. Really 10/10, keep it up :) |
Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas Circle-Of-Two
110
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Posted - 2016.06.30 17:30:14 -
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NightmareX wrote:Well, today, you have to manually spin the ships around to be able to spin them in stations. But back in the days of 'The Second Genesis' and 'Exodus' expansions, you could basicly just enable an option to let the ships spins themself in station. Have a look at this video that shows you the Caracal, Raven and some other ships automaticly spinning in station where the ship fitting window is also opened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_DoVBKozkcLook from 27 seconds to see the Caracal. And if you go to 9 minutes and 8 seconds, you can see the Raven do the same spin. This option to let the ships spins themself is the option i want back. And i'm sure many other old school players want's this back to .
This ^^^^
I really want it back!
Go Camera Team!
Best post ever!
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Kremlath
Cayman Finance
41
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Posted - 2016.06.30 18:03:20 -
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Tyran Crow wrote:Since the patch I have been making much more use out of the Captains Quarters.. has anyone else noticed that you cant rotate/zoom in/out on the fitting screen or when looking at an image of a ship in the viewer? Once you switch to the hanger everything functions normally... Not only did the docking animation addition break my eyes it also appears to have broken other #*^$ too.
Yes, this is broken for me too. |
Elwha Lynx
Saints Of Havoc I N G L O R I O U S
29
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Posted - 2016.06.30 18:57:11 -
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Generally the cinematic and graphical improvements need to be added to keep the game competitive with other games as new players consider playing this wonderful game.
That being said, as a first maxim for all such considerations needs to be :"Does it interfere or appear to interfere with core game play." Hence the specific problem with the undocking animation. Core game play in hostile space requires a player see what's around them to decide whether to fight, re-dock or as quickly as possible get off the undock to a bookmark. The old way faced the view in the wrong direction. This new animation makes it far worse, because even if you click the screen, most of the time the animation takes control of the view and either zooms in so tight and in the wrong direction all you can see it your own ship, or so far out it's hard to sort through multiple other ships--either way takes time to reacquire control.
By all means, make the game pretty and immersive---BUT NEVER at the expense of good game play. |
Aid Bringer
Kockegg Industries Hard Knocks Citizens
30
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Posted - 2016.06.30 19:26:24 -
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CCP Turtlepower wrote:Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:why do I see Mining amount and single Bounty rewards on screen .. even with all notifications and log an messages turned off? We added a toggle...
*bangs head on desk repeatedly...
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Front
Ironheart Strategic Aerospace Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.06.30 19:38:47 -
[406] - Quote
Ran two sites solo last night for the new event, both times had the can pilfered by last minute warp ins who literally grabbed the can and warped off with the goods. I cannot fault those players, even if they were smug about it, I can only fault CCP who thought that putting the only decent loot in the whole site in a single can anyone can access. At the very least you should have had to participate in the site to get a crack at that can without getting flagged in my opinion.
The docking camera is terrible and I especially despise that I am stuck looking at my ship and the station on undock. The last thing you want to see on undock is your own ship.
The lighting effects and wallet changes are really nice, and while I do not like the way the actual event sites have been handled I really like the way the challanges are displayed, even if the challanges themselves can be crazy (like taking down a drifter in a frigate) |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34061
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Posted - 2016.06.30 19:42:44 -
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I set the inertia of my camera to nearly 0 (stiff) because I like the responsiveness when I swivel my camera. The rotation causes jitter on my clients.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. The Bastion
162
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Posted - 2016.06.30 20:31:48 -
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Console people, Console, They been messing with the undock sequence for months now, for no good reason I might add, now you get this sickening drift in when you log in along with all the other crud they have loaded the station up with again for no good reason at all, it has no bearing on game play other than making people feel sick and delays everything you want to do.
Been said many time before all you need is a small visual of the ship your in, access to the hangar tree, chat widows and station services, glitter and glitz, wtf is that all about, all it really tell us is that someone in that office does not have enough work to do if they have time to waste coming up with this stuff over and over again.
CCP forced QC into the game, even though the vast majority of players at the time said it was not required, but we got it anyway, redesigned the hangar tree and broke everything in the process but forced it on players all the same, forced a 3D map into a 2d game, now that was really clever, messed with the scanning interface and then spent months fiddling and tinkering with it just to get it functional and it's still not right.
They keep rolling out more and more glitzy graphics updates that most players cannot even see and even if they could cannot use them in heavy usage areas like large fleets and players have been complaining about the undock sequence for months now only to be told that no one knows anything about it, the problem does not exist or simply being met with silence from CCP and now this abortion we get thrown in our faces only to be told, Oh were looking into the problems mentioned??????.
There was once a time when you could click undock and quickly be outside and engaged, now you sit staring at a black screen while the reams of badly written code sort themselves out only to find your not only facing the wrong way round but your staring at the wire frame of your ship and have to scroll out to see whats going on at all, and all the time those outside cane not only see you but get into position to lock and kill your ship before you even know it's happening, Way to go CCP, you really do know what players want don't you.
Hope it performs better on the PS4 than it does currently on a PC.
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v3locity
Spatial Distortion Inc
15
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Posted - 2016.06.30 21:53:04 -
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marly cortez wrote: Hope it performs better on the PS4 than it does currently on a PC.
So they sell Dust to a bunch of people then just abandon it. Now it's worthless.
Pull horrifying crap like this, they actually think it's good? That in itself is disturbing.
Why would you buy anything for PS4 from this company only to have it diked up or abandon.
I can still play Warcraft 3 or Diablo 2. |
v3locity
Spatial Distortion Inc
15
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Posted - 2016.06.30 21:59:35 -
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Sergey Hawk wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Kremlath wrote:I realize that, I'm just pulling your chain, perhaps that doesn't come through well. The main point is I'd like a response about the camera issue. I don't have any details to share, but I understand that Team Psycho Sisters are looking at options for changing the docking animation in response to the feedback here. Changing??? OH MY GOD!!! Is in your company can not read? Simply remove this sh.t and forget that it was created. Do not waste OUR money on pointless cinematic effects
Exactly, that's like Trump saying I'll take care of it. We all know he's a pathological liar.
Oh they won't be wasting any of my money. Anything less that having the ability to disable it is unacceptable. |
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Petunia Whale
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.06.30 22:36:27 -
[411] - Quote
I like new content and wanted to like "shadow of the serpent" but I have given up on it. There is always someone else in the site or if I get it to myself then someone jumps in at the last minutes and steals the loot and gets the credit...... It needs lots more sites and at least a criminal flag if they steal the loot. |
v3locity
Spatial Distortion Inc
15
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Posted - 2016.06.30 22:36:30 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former.
So you want to pay them to not be stupid. Good luck with that one. |
Kalen Blackstar
The Anti-Meme Initiative Boredom Industries
1
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Posted - 2016.06.30 22:55:49 -
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Please add a toggle to turn off the docking animation! Or just take it out all together. It adds nothing to the game. |
Makareena
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2016.06.30 22:57:20 -
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Could you at least make a quick hotfix ?
Really simple... While using Captains Quarters, could you make the character instead of stand upright - to bend over ?
At best in a cool cinematic way - i know you can |
Sgt Ocker
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
1074
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Posted - 2016.06.30 23:19:47 -
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Petunia Whale wrote:I like new content and wanted to like "shadow of the serpent" but I have given up on it. There is always someone else in the site or if I get it to myself then someone jumps in at the last minutes and steals the loot and gets the credit...... It needs lots more sites and at least a criminal flag if they steal the loot. Yeah, sadly Devs are happy to have others steal from those who actually run the sites. Of course this is by design - Go read the responses to this specific question from the lead Dev.
Seems they are also happy to have players collect the reward without completing the site. Shipyard in particular is good for this, found 3 yesterday (one after the other) - All 3 had around half a dozen cruisers, lots of wrecks and no reward box. So already players have found ways to circumvent completing these sites and still collect the reward for completion. Which of course means the site won't despawn, until someone else wastes their time killing the remaining ships.
Dev's at their finest - An event designed for thieves and scammers to prosper, Oh haven't CCP come such a long way.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1410
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Posted - 2016.07.01 00:48:01 -
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v3locity wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former. So you want to pay them to not be stupid. Good luck with that one. It's not really like that.
Take this quote as an example of the issues:
CCP Darwin wrote:When people ask for a toggle to turn a feature off, usually they are really saying they'd like the feature removed entirely but think that an option toggle is a more reasonable request. Our focus, though, is usually on trying to make something new like the docking animation a positive for more people.
That's why I asked for posters who might say "Add a switch!" or "Take it out!" to instead explain what they don't like about it. Maybe it could be different in some way that wouldn't make you feel that way but doesn't take us back to a black screen or a loading bar for these session changes, and it helps if you offer us thoughts that can help us get there.
Of course, taking it out, or even adding a switch, are always last-resort options, but they're just something we prefer not to do if we think we can find a better spot for the feature that more players will appreciate. So if you pick out:
1. When people ask for a toggle they are usually really asking for something else. 2. Our focus would be to offer them something else instead of what they are specifically asking for. 3. People asking for toggles are required to commit to further communication with us to be successful in persuading us. 4. Adding toggles is always a last resort.
You see how we end up with the situation we are in?
If you think offering 200 PLEX in order to bring about positive change is a negative, fine. That's a perfectly reasonable point of view and a perfectly reasonable response to what is obviously extreme behavior on my part.
I've given more than enough feedback to CCP in over a decade of playing. But I've watched the playable parts of EVE shrink around me in spite of my feedback. Those unaffected don't need to have their game curtailed by my issues. We don't require lots of development time spent on a new flashy thing that equally will not meet our needs. We just need a toggle so that those that have problems can be free of those problems while those that do not can enjoy the eye candy. |
Aid Bringer
Kockegg Industries Hard Knocks Citizens
34
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Posted - 2016.07.01 01:22:10 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:v3locity wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.
I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former. So you want to pay them to not be stupid. Good luck with that one. It's not really like that. Take this quote as an example of the issues: CCP Darwin wrote:When people ask for a toggle to turn a feature off, usually they are really saying they'd like the feature removed entirely but think that an option toggle is a more reasonable request. Our focus, though, is usually on trying to make something new like the docking animation a positive for more people.
That's why I asked for posters who might say "Add a switch!" or "Take it out!" to instead explain what they don't like about it. Maybe it could be different in some way that wouldn't make you feel that way but doesn't take us back to a black screen or a loading bar for these session changes, and it helps if you offer us thoughts that can help us get there.
Of course, taking it out, or even adding a switch, are always last-resort options, but they're just something we prefer not to do if we think we can find a better spot for the feature that more players will appreciate. So if you pick out: 1. When people ask for a toggle they are usually really asking for something else. 2. Our focus would be to offer them something else instead of what they are specifically asking for. 3. People asking for toggles are required to commit to further communication with us to be successful in persuading us. 4. Adding toggles is always a last resort. You see how we end up with the situation we are in? If you think offering 200 PLEX in order to bring about positive change is a negative, fine. That's a perfectly reasonable point of view and a perfectly reasonable response to what is obviously extreme behavior on my part. I've given more than enough feedback to CCP in over a decade of playing. But I've watched the playable parts of EVE shrink around me in spite of my feedback. Those unaffected don't need to have their game curtailed by my issues. We don't require lots of development time spent on a new flashy thing that equally will not meet our needs. We just need a toggle so that those that have problems can be free of those problems while those that do not can enjoy the eye candy.
In a way, he's right. When we ask for a toggle we really are asking for something else, them to use their time and money better and stop delivering crap 'features' that hurt the player experience. Asking for a toggle is a compromise. Its the players saying "Look, you ****** up, this is crap, please for the love of god take it away... but we understand you put effort into it and are emotionally attached to it so lets have a toggle so you can sit there in iceland and pretend most people aren't turning it off the minute theyre able to." |
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
Best Kept Frozen. LowSechnaya Sholupen
188
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Posted - 2016.07.01 01:26:35 -
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Aid Bringer wrote:[quote=Bad Bobby]In a way, he's right. When we ask for a toggle we really are asking for something else, them to use their time and money better and stop delivering crap 'features' that hurt the player experience. Asking for a toggle is a compromise. Its the players saying "Look, you ****** up, this is crap, please for the love of god take it away... but we understand you put effort into it and are emotionally attached to it so lets have a toggle so you can sit there in iceland and pretend most people aren't turning it off the minute theyre able to." That's a fair point, but there will always be some players who want it and some who don't. Even if 80% of players don't want it, the other 20% will. A toggle could allow both groups to have what they want instead of annoying one group to please the other.
Like with the Load Station Environment option for instance, most players seemed to like ship spinning, and great for them. I'd never ask for everyone to be forced to have a static background. That said, I also want the option to have a static background and avoid the performance burden of rendering the hangar and the distraction of movement and the screens when I'm concentrating on something else. When they removed that option it wasn't because everyone hated the static background and wanted them to get rid of it, but simply because it somehow took too much effort to maintain. While those of us who want it back are a small minority, the removal of that choice is quite painful for those of us who don't care about pretty hangars but now have to deal with the downsides of them. |
Makareena
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2016.07.01 01:37:04 -
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The first page should be pretty clear as a hint for CCP (actually all prevews years as well) already... Here we are on page 21.
You do not listen to the feedback people are giving you (or those that are responsible but say nothing here).
You can add as many special effects as you want, camera effects, sound, animations, some random people that could be just sprites under our ships in the hangar to see the scale of those ships, changable FOV (that would make a BIG difference). It is all really cool with completely everyone who plays EVE.
But for someone who plays the game likes the way it looks and is comfortable with it. And you introduce something new and he doesnt like it (as you stated doesnt change the functionality) - make it possible to turn it off, switch it...
New patch - all new stuff enabled Its actually made for new players only so they get this WOW effect from eve as long as possible, so the game doesnt look outdated, is on time etc. With time this and this starts to bother me (camera shake in warp for example) i turn it off. Engine trails yes/no Drone models yes/no and so on...
Quote:"When people ask for a toggle to turn a feature off, usually they are really saying they'd like the feature removed entirely" <- this is bs - if i can turn something off - i dont care if it exists.
Make more graphic options, not less. I want my ships headlights to throw light on stuff, better nebulaes higher res ship textures and so on. When i see the graphic options in games nowadays low/medium/high/ultra i have the feeling they take people for complete idiots... And you are aiming to do exactly that. Too complex ? Make a button - simple/advanced or someone at CCP has button, slider togglephobia ? |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
355
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Posted - 2016.07.01 05:05:32 -
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Makareena wrote: Make more graphic options, not less. I want my ships headlights to throw light on stuff, better nebulaes higher res ship textures and so on. When i see the graphic options in games nowadays low/medium/high/ultra i have the feeling they take people for complete idiots... And you are aiming to do exactly that. Too complex ? Make a button - simple/advanced or someone at CCP has button, slider togglephobia ?
So much this. Your target audience is capable of working on unix server config files. (I put EvE overview competency on my resume as well just for good measure). We can handle graphics settings. ;-)
From CCPs perspective, I would think more customization = less whine, right? Don't like it? Hardware doesn't appreciate it? Turn it off!
Personally, I did like the animation so I'd leave it on-- but I'm still using the old map and the old probe scanner for example. Because I can't make the new ones responsive enough or remove the fancy clutter on them.
It won't be possible to please everyone, not in a long running game like EvE, not with a target audiences between 16 and 86 year old. Config files, toggles, sliders: don't get rid of them, even when other games lead another way. Do this the EvE way! Thank you. |
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