whats up with the talking about yourself in 3rd person?

Did you read his post?

He's talking about the players and how Eve Bet got time to properly honor last minute withdraws until the change goes in full effect but honest players on IWI didn't get the same.

CCP also closed and seized Eve Casino - Which haven't even been open yet! - they haven't accepted ANY ISK yet since it was still in testing, but yet all the bankers there have had their isk seized as well?

There are things that don't make sense here - I understand it's a risk to hand over your isk to these sites in the first place to feed your addiction, but they did give Eve Bet the benefit of the doubt.

Im rather curious how much ISK assets have been removed from the game by this.

Would CCP be willing to shed a little light on what kind of figure we would be looking at?

You mean the towers that could be reinforced to stop the moon mining? Apples meet oranges.

I't doesn't say gambling games, it says games of chance.

gamble
(-êg+ªm b+Öl)

v. -bled, -bling,
n. v.i.
1. to play at a game of chance for money or other stakes.
2. to stake or risk something of value, as money, on the outcome of something involving chance.

It's about whether such blanket punishment is justifiable.

I'm interpreting this as running external sites that deals with ISK/items etc is prohibited.

Is me securing supercap trades against the rules?

Is running a lottery for a titan, using the "Sell Orders" forum against the rules?

Is running an auction for a titan, using the "Sell Orders" forum against the rules?

/c

Updates & Clarifications:

The 90 day clause:

Our policy on inactive accounts has not changed, we have simply shortened the notice period from six months to three months due to a potentially higher volume of account creation.

This does not go far enough, and the EULA could be simplified greatly.

In-game items should not be exchangeable for ANY out of games goods or services, period.

so this doesn't mean our accoutns WILL be deleted after 90 days of not logging it. it just means that we'll be warned 90 days IF the supply of accounts becomes to many.

correct?


also with eve-bet being...outlawed........will we have some form of ingame betting (as its fun to bet on teams for the alliance tournament.)

Right now: CCP has the right to terminate your account immediately if you don't pay
After: CCP will notify you 90 days before terminating you if you don't pay
Reality: CCP hasn't ever used this clause

Why people are up in arms about getting 90 days notice to something CCP currently has the right to do immediately is beyond me.

Can you elaborate on
"You may establish more than one (1) Account for each copy of the Software licensed. You are however not allowed to play EVE by using more than one account at the same time, unless you pay a subscription fee for the Software"?

How does this relate to alpha and omega's? It is pretty clear that CCP will write some code to prevent another Eve client from being launched whenver an alpha account is running. How does this relate to VMs and containers?

If I run the second Eve account in a container or VM to circumvent the restriction, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC with a different public IP than the first account, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC and place it in front of a pet, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC and place it in front of a sleeping baby, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC and place it in front of a spouse who really isn't playing EVE, is that a EULA violation?


I don't mean to be annoying, but people are going to push this ability to multibox alpha's as far as they can just like they did with multi-input.

I'm interpreting this as running external sites that deals with ISK/items etc is prohibited.

Is me securing supercap trades against the rules?

Is running a lottery for a titan, using the "Sell Orders" forum against the rules?

Is running an auction for a titan, using the "Sell Orders" forum against the rules?

/c

I'm interpreting this as running external sites that deals with ISK/items etc is prohibited.

Is me securing supercap trades against the rules?

Is running a lottery for a titan, using the "Sell Orders" forum against the rules?

Is running an auction for a titan, using the "Sell Orders" forum against the rules?

/c

Chribba's onto something here. There are many 'services' people pay for with ISK, such as TS hosting and websites, etc. What's up with all those?

Can you elaborate on
"You may establish more than one (1) Account for each copy of the Software licensed. You are however not allowed to play EVE by using more than one account at the same time, unless you pay a subscription fee for the Software"?

How does this relate to alpha and omega's? It is pretty clear that CCP will write some code to prevent another Eve client from being launched whenver an alpha account is running. How does this relate to VMs and containers?

If I run the second Eve account in a container or VM to circumvent the restriction, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC with a different public IP than the first account, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC and place it in front of a pet, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC and place it in front of a sleeping baby, is that a EULA violation?

If so, what if I run the second Eve account on another PC and place it in front of a spouse who really isn't playing EVE, is that a EULA violation?


I don't mean to be annoying, but people are going to push this ability to multibox alpha's as far as they can just like they did with multi-input.

Thank you. What I wanted to say in more succinct manner.

What on earth are you doing?? I get that there are problems, but this change will kill all of the good things that are funded by those sites, like EVE NT.

Also, how completely self-serving is it that you waited to announce this until the week after they produced an AT show twice as good as the one produced by CCP? Really, did you delay the announcement just to get that last bit of betting funded community effort out before you killed them?

Right now: CCP has the right to terminate your account immediately if you don't pay
After: CCP will notify you 90 days before terminating you if you don't pay
Reality: CCP hasn't ever used this clause

Why people are up in arms about getting 90 days notice to something CCP currently has the right to do immediately is beyond me.

From what I can tell, IWI and casino were running a RMT operation while EVEbet were legit. So EVEbet gets time to get its **** in order before shutting down while the other two got nuked.

Coupled with this is the whole steam getting sued for in game gambling so CCP are pulling the plug before something stupid happens and some American lawyer goes after them.

From what I can tell, IWI and casino were running a RMT operation while EVEbet were legit. So EVEbet gets time to get its **** in order before shutting down while the other two got nuked.

Coupled with this is the whole steam getting sued for in game gambling so CCP are pulling the plug before something stupid happens and some American lawyer goes after them.

The third party service EVE Casino has been shut down in game, and all ISK and assets have been confiscated after multiple and sustained breaches of our Developer License Agreement. Permanent account suspensions have been issued against those involved.