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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/03/2007 06:20:25
This summary is meant to give a quick overview of the battle without going into too much detail. Mods please leave this up, so people do no have to go through 30+pages to get an idea of what happened.
It is surely a historic moment in EVE to see BoB capital shipyards destroyed, after a battle that cost the attacking forces an approximated 50 capital ships.
Foreplay:
The coalition put the POS containing the RKK shipyards into reinforced. The shipyards were in a 30day manufacturing cycle, motherships and Titans take this amount of time to produce. Coalition Intelligence reported a fetus-Titan as being in production in said shipyards.
For the attack the Coalition assembled a vast fleet numbering over 1000 pilots. Part of this fleet were roughly 200 capital ships.
The defending forces of BoB assembled a fleet, which according to unconfrimed reports from Corelum Syndicate nummbered approximatly the same amount of ships. Joshua Foiritan: "...400 in the blockade system, 600 reported a few jumps out and between 200 and 300 in the actual POS system."
Objectives:
BoB was planning on defending the cap-shipyard and destroying as many Coalition ships as possible in the process.
The coalition was planning on destroying the RKK cap-shipyards at any cost.
The Fight:
As was to be expected, LAG played a major role in this battle. Pilots from both sides reported trouble to log in or jump systems.
To prevent the system node from crashing, a CCP GM limited the number of ships that could be in F-TE1T to roughly 600.
The Coalition claims that this limit hindered about 60% of their attacking fleet from entering the system.
The question remains of which side knew of the system ship cap that the GM enforced first.
The coalition continues the attack despite the system ship number cap problem, in effect sending their capital ships to battle without the typical support cap fleets have.
Seleene from Mercenary Coalition reports at 2007.03.29 21:07:00: "Pure insanity. Coalition dreads keep jumping in. Alliance ships are repping POS and killing them like mad. At least 12 Coalition dreads down so far. Coalition Dreads are focusing on the POS. POS shields holding..."
At approximatly 2007.03.29 21:20, the RKK POS containing the cap-shiyards is reported as being destroyed. This information is confirmed by both sides.
Conclusion on objectives achieved:
BoB accomplished their objective to inflict serious damage on the attacking Coalition forces. The number of reported Coalition cap ship losses currently varies between 30 and 50. BoB did not manage to safe the RKK cap-shipyards however.
The Coalition accomplished their objective to destroy the RKK cap-shipyards. As a pilot from AAA put it: "We have only 1 order - kill the POS regardless any losses - and we did it."
I think both sides of this battle deserve congratulations on the outcome.
BoB made it very clear that destroying major POSes in the heart of their territory comes at a heavy price. The Coalition, on the other hand, showed its ability to take out any POS they choose. Wether the RKK cap-shipyards did indeed hold a fetus Titan might never be known for sure.
Please keep replies to this report civil.
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:22:00 -
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awesome work!
and first
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StarFoox
Neogen Industries
Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:30:00 -
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Congratulation \o/
Keep up the good work guys.
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Moltke
ZiTek
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:30:00 -
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Well done and congrats to the Coalition in accomplishing their objectives.
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Mr Stargate
Caldari
Demonic Retribution
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:30:00 -
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very nice summery
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:31:00 -
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There is already a post about it Here
The mods will lock your attention spam soon.
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Macmuelli
Gallente
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:33:00 -
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congratulations to the coalition.
a Bitter taste....
2:1 + no chance for a supprt fleet otherwise this fight has gone totaly to coaltion side
To prevent the system node from crashing, a CCP GM limited the number of ships that could be in F-TE1T to roughly 600.
The Coalition claims that this limit hindered about 60% of their attacking fleet from entering the system.
The question remains of which side knew of the system ship cap that the GM enforced first.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
Minmatar
Maza Nostra
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:33:00 -
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Nice report and well done for keeping equal distance between sides as much as possible. I couldn't attend the op but this reminds me of the "human wave" tactics in that "Enemy at the gates" movie...disregard for losses and pushing on to the objective. Although if i had been online, i'd most probably be frustrated at getting stuck and crashing.
To recap, nice and informative report, too bad it all looks more epic in text than in the actual game nowadays 
 Originally by: Eloryan Persago, Goonfleet
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
There is already a post about it Here
The thread you mentioned is not a quick overview or battle report.
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Zylatis
The Inner Legion
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:44:00 -
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\o/ good work dudes. Mucho respect for the organisation required for such an assault.
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Alt Troll
Minmatar
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:49:00 -
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good works
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Heptameron
Gallente
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:57:00 -
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Nice work to those that made it all the way to the target system...
Unfortunately at least 250 support would not have made it due to node issues, lag whatever.
As for the target system cap.... well that's just so seriously messed up it beggars belief. Wish someone would have told us beforehand I wouldn't have wasted 4 hours of my life trying to get there.
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Daelin Blackleaf
No Joy Corp
Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:59:00 -
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Very nice work.
A pleasure to see reasonably objective battle reports, keep them coming please.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/03/2007 06:51:02
Wether the RKK cap-shipyards did indeed hold a fetus Titan might never be known for sure.
Does the POS killmail hold some information about this ?
A few rumour that hit my ear between the "POS is Down" news and 22h00 Eve Time (remember, it's rumours) :
- OrangeSpecies 's Titan was down shortly after the POS (half an hour after)
- 2 Bob motherships are down
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Originally by: Clavius Der
I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
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Miss KillSome
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Miss KillSome on 30/03/2007 07:16:38
dd
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LordInvisible
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:21:00 -
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two big questions are:
Why did BoB wanted to keep this POS alive at any cost?
Who did hold the battleground after this shootout? If BoB, then they could collect all the minerals from shipyard and that means that coalition lost alot of ISK, while BoB lost just 15 (or so) days of producing..and got all the loot from dreads beeing destroyed..
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Accipiter Primus
Skull Soft
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:21:00 -
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I have to say this was a great night and I had a lot of fun tagging onto the end of a goonfleet swarm on the way down to F-T.
Rather unfortunatly missed the main battle but kept getting intel reports on route, about the status of the POS (Boom, yay) and the losses (many, many dreadnoughts, not so yay but well done BoB et al) and the unconfirmed gossip (2 motherships killes, BoB titan in system, Noreen isn't a natural blond, what size implants certain people have...)
Was impressed watching the goons in action, steamrolling anyone that got in their way on the way down, then things got a little fragmented once we got near F-T, lag got bad (no suprise - well done CCP keeping the damn thing going in the first place, personally rather have the ship limit than a crash). Got to watch a -LV- gate camp in action against a steady stream of ships, they were kept busy chewing them up and spitting them out (very camp) and in the end had a chance to chat to an old friend who was batting for the opposition before things came to an end and I realised there was me left in system and 120 guys who didn't want me to be there and all my friends were dead or fled...
Thanks to the kind Goons who let me tag along, you guys are insane in a good way.
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Izzy Pol
Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Victor Vision
Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/03/2007 06:51:02
Wether the RKK cap-shipyards did indeed hold a fetus Titan might never be known for sure.
Does the POS killmail hold some information about this ?
A few rumour that hit my ear between the "POS is Down" news and 22h00 Eve Time (remember, it's rumours) :
- OrangeSpecies 's Titan was down shortly after the POS (half an hour after)
- 2 Bob motherships are down
POS's dont generate killmails.
Those rumours are rubbish.
To the OP, grats on an objective piece of work, a rare thing thing. I must confess I'm not sure about the pop cap, another forum talks about 700. If you post stuff like that "close to correct" isnt good enough, it has to be spot on imo (having said that you could be correct)
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:23:00 -
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mad respect to both sides
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Evelgrivion
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Victor Vision
Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/03/2007 06:51:02
Wether the RKK cap-shipyards did indeed hold a fetus Titan might never be known for sure.
Does the POS killmail hold some information about this ?
A few rumour that hit my ear between the "POS is Down" news and 22h00 Eve Time (remember, it's rumours) :
- OrangeSpecies 's Titan was down shortly after the POS (half an hour after)
- 2 Bob motherships are down
No motherships of BoB's are recorded destroyed, and Orange Species didn't log in until an hour after the POS's destruction - I believe thats one half hour later than the rumor states
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branodn lee
Minmatar
Red Dwarf Mining Corps
5th Column
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:27:00 -
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well this is just another case gm or dev helping bob agin. they should of limited the number of people in the system with bob already in it. thats just bull crap. you limit the system to 600-700 people after bob is already in the system. thats crap. way to go ccp another way to help bob out yet agin. next time just limit it to 300 or what ever bob has in there.
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Reservoir Dog
Free Space Tech
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Izzy Pol
POS's dont generate killmails.
POSes generate killmails. But only directors of corp owning the POS are receiving them.
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Storm Child
Amarr
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:31:00 -
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Congrats to the coalition. Clearly BoB can no longer protect it's own assets in it's own back yard anymore . This situation was really unthinkable just a few months ago !
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Plan Neun
Caldari
Ganja Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:34:00 -
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\o/
Congratulations to the coalition.
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LordInvisible
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:35:00 -
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according to BoBs KB, 38 dreads were destroyed and none lost.
And limiting a ppl in system is only way to keep node up.
Remember JV1V from LV? GM should do that, but he hesitated. This how we didnt get any chance of defending our POS with building titan in it. And i think that defending army should have a slightly better option when defending the system then opposing army.
Imagine that CCP gives us player owned sentry guns. U guys jump in, u lag at jumpin for more then 30 seconds, sentry guns pick up out one by one. U wake up in POD or in station. And this would be the only solution for defending army: to bring 100+ guns at the g8s when u arrive. U'll create lag, and u'll get poped.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:38:00 -
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Nice report, has been looking for that, thanks.
That rumour about Orange Species Titan loss is not true, i saw him in 3-f few hours after that. Proof: 2007.03.30 02:28:01 Combat Orange Species [DICE.]<BOB>(Ragnarok) hits you, doing 15067.8 damage.
One interesting question: what happened to the Leviathan BPO ? Was it destroyed with the POS - or if not, who got it ? For the records: we are talking here about a bpo worth ~64 billion isk.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
One interesting question: what happened to the Leviathan BPO ? Was it destroyed with the POS - or if not, who got it ? For the records: we are talking here about a bpo worth ~64 billion isk.
Maybe an official report will come, but I severely doubt it. And if it comes, will it be truthful?
The truth is in the eye of the beholder, sadly.
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PeveS
The Edge Foundation
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: PeveS on 30/03/2007 07:43:39
Edited by: PeveS on 30/03/2007 07:42:33
Would be nice if CCP gives a statement on the biggest event in Eve history.
Because of all the dev stuff going on lately, the community would like to see some clarifications on:
- GM involvement. What did CCP do on servicing this event. Node upgrades, extra monitoring, etc?
- Where there limits in system. If so, was it communicated to both sides? Who had the advantage (Although i know the answer!)
- Numbers of pilots from BoB+Friends and Coalition in that system.
- What will CCP do next time with en event like this?
- General overview of killed stuff (from the Database).
Personaly i dont trust CCP on this that it was handled fare. Thats why CCP should make a detailed statement. to gain trust from the community.
Btw, Respect for all involved!
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Izzy Pol
Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek
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Posted - 2007.03.30 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Reservoir Dog
Originally by: Izzy Pol
POS's dont generate killmails.
POSes generate killmails. But only directors of corp owning the POS are receiving them.
My apologies, in the context of the post I quoted I meant "killing a POS will not get you a killmail"
I may as well address the other stuff in here since I'm bored. To the guy who said "LOL Bob can't protect their assets" Game mechanics don't allow it. It's pretty much impossible to save a POS in those circumstances. The best you can do is shoot the attacker in the face. Smart people know this, that may be why the fact escaped you.
To the guy asking about the BPO. BPO's are kept in station and produced from remotely.
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Gama24
Gallente
No Quarter.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.30 08:11:00 -
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So, the Coalition achieved their objective, even though it was a pyrrhic victory, and BOB couldn't stop them. Though a few more battles like that and BOB won't need to go up north.
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