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CHoKeD Minmatar Caffeine Commodities Company	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:06:00 - [151] Originally by: Pariah Eutrophius Originally by: Buxaroo You think the coalition will be able to do this every single time? You think the coalition can withstand 40+ cap losses per engagement? YES, 40 dreads, all insured = bout 500mill loss per dread=20bill spread across 5 or so of the biggest alliances in game? derrrrrr You have never lost a capital ship have you.. ----------------------- I fly for my tribe. I die with my tribe.
Laboratus Gallente BGG Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:11:00 - [152] Originally by: CHoKeD stuff You are ignoring the obvious here. Bob set up to protect a POS and make the coalition bleed.What was posted in the begginning of the battle thread implies they thought they could rep it and claim victory. Coalition set out to blow up the pos. What happened in the end was: 20-25% of the coalition capital fleet down, pos down. Bob& co failed at protecting the pos. Coalition took their objective and left claiming loses within accepted parameters. ISK is meaningless in alliance warfare of this scale. Production can replace all loses in a matter of days, or weeks if need be. Morale is what matters, and it is clear to all what happened. No amount of forum propaganda can change that. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:22:00 - [153] Originally by: Blacklight One could be excused for assuming that there is a -100 points of IQ penalty for posting on Eve-O given the utter stupidity of the comments on this forum. You may want to look back over your own alliances posts over the last 6 months before making opsts like this. people in glass houses etc.
Emrod Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:28:00 - [154] To be fair play and realistic... all Parties win their objective in fact so nobody win or loose here...its a Tide! GF everybody! And now the next round.... I sell some logoff t2 module,improved forum flamming tachyon beam and Bob Lag generator faction item, contact me ingame for more info :P
Altar Mei Solstice Systems Development Concourse SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:39:00 - [155] Originally by: Blacklight There's no wonder lots of us are boycotting these forums these days. "OMG 5 BoB Dreads died" - mahoosive backslapping "OMG coalition lost a load of dreads" - dreads mean nothing we can replace them easily One could be excused for assuming that there is a -100 points of IQ penalty for posting on Eve-O given the utter stupidity of the comments on this forum. Yes, because you and yours weren't spilling crap like this on the forums at least once a week. Originally by: Blacklight Regardless of the outcome of this war the community deteriorates daily. Orly? If your going to start blaming people for this I suggest you start looking inward. I swear you guys have the worst case of short term memory loss. Originally by: CCP Arkanon We're a company of professionals, not some LAN party gone bad.
Sheriff Badden Amarr Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:40:00 - [156] Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 30/03/2007 15:09:47 The Coalition claims that this limit hindered about 60% of their attacking fleet from entering the system. Perhaps they would've lost less capitals if there was no lag, because of the blitzkrieg theory. I hate lag that's like the only thing that's really wrong with this game
esquimo leviticus Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.03.30 15:56:00 - [157] Edited by: esquimo leviticus on 30/03/2007 15:53:29 There's too much Mud being thrown about for sure, Congrats to everyone that was involved and understand how horrible it was, esp those that have refrained from the usual Mud throwing sessions that seem to occur after/during a fight. Hell this battle is far from over.
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:02:00 - [158] Originally by: Blacklight Regardless of the outcome of this war the community deteriorates daily. This is to my knowledge the funniest post i read in CAOD . I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Sentinel Eeex Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:17:00 - [159] Ok, I don't get it. GM set a 'cap' on number of pilots in the system - before or after people actually started jumping in (in other words - did he do it when defensive fleet was already in or ... )? I am confused Or was that whole "GM set the cap" thing just a wild guess?
Morpheus Dreadnor	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:24:00 - [160] The coalition have done nothing but WHINE about there sad loses... LOL start acting like menn ffs... and stop whining... hell the post in general about getting ships reimbursed.. i am in SHOCK... talk about who have some ball ??? ohh we go in.. we know its gonna be lag and the we can get our ships back... hmm isent that exploit... who cares... the coalition is LAME even thinking about it... Auction caracter. Signature image removed - That's just wrong... mkay? - Immy

Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:30:00 - [161] Originally by: Sentinel Eeex Ok, I don't get it. GM set a 'cap' on number of pilots in the system - before or after people actually started jumping in (in other words - did he do it when defensive fleet was already in or ... )? I am confused Or was that whole "GM set the cap" thing just a wild guess? Local in F-T never went above 475. The coalition can cry about an imaginary system cap at 700 all they wish, but they were still 200 pilots from figuring out if it was really there.
Galum Arfamon Red 42 CORE.	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:31:00 - [162] Nice write-up - thank you. Respect to the coalition (go us!) for bringing the fight to BoB. They asked for it, they live for it, and I'm sure they'll want more of it. Respect to BoB for fighting all the time as there is no tomorrow. If only the game infrastructure and mechanics were more robust, it would have been an epic fight. And.. /signed on what Blacklight said (and /me puts the anti-flame jacket and tin-foiled hat on)
Sola Sola Solarflare Heavy Industries Pure.	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:34:00 - [163] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Hmm, if they had not done that, then we'd of had node crash after node crash and you'd of been sitting at your login in screen while the outcome of this fight would of been determined by how lucky either side was in getting pilots back into the game. Hmmm, isn't that what happend anyways. How lucky of BoB that they got the system capped. At least when the node dies the percentage of getting forces in is equal to the percentage of pilots you brought to the fight. Which is only fair instead of leaving 60% of our guys out in the cold while our capitals are getting hammered.
Dregann Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:36:00 - [164] Nice Write-up
Sentinel Eeex Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:37:00 - [165] Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: Sentinel Eeex Ok, I don't get it. GM set a 'cap' on number of pilots in the system - before or after people actually started jumping in (in other words - did he do it when defensive fleet was already in or ... )? I am confused Or was that whole "GM set the cap" thing just a wild guess? Local in F-T never went above 475. The coalition can cry about an imaginary system cap at 700 all they wish, but they were still 200 pilots from figuring out if it was really there. It would mean 225 pilots didn't use the chance to get into the system via jump-portal. Hmm... Oh well, we'll never know, I guess.
SinBin Gallente HARDC0RE	Posted - 2007.03.30 16:39:00 - [166] Top Job guys on killing pos. Sounds epic if laggy but thats gunno happen , even as ccp upgrade more we just have got bigger blobs ready hehe. Lots of winging about, so many fast to forgot BoB dosnt = BloB for no reason, I mean come on BoB brung 500 (top pilot were assume, there words) so any lesser players(thats us normal people) would require over 1k pilots to attack if not more, anyone should aggree. _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Manfred Sideous 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:02:00 - [167] Adapt and Overcome. Zergs will only get you so far this point has been proven in almost every MMO. At the end of the day Superior tactics will outclass a Zerg anyday. Not to offend the coalition members but thats exactly the tactic you employed. You realize you had 1000 pilots at your disposal and could have attacked 5-7 major station systems simotaneously. Then when those sytems POS came out of renforced you then again could have attacked simotaneously again and BOB and Allies would only effectively be able to respond to a few of those spots. A titan or a group of titans is insugnifigant when you have the rescources and ability to attack more places than can be defended at one time. But when you play directly into the defenders hand allowing them to setup proper defense and dictate the battlefield your going to walk away with a bittersweet and at best marginal victory. IMO if the coallition is truly commited to the goal of dismantling the power block of Band of Brothers and their allies Tactics will win the fight not numbers. ___________ Your Sig Here?
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:11:00 - [168] Originally by: Manfred Sideous Adapt and Overcome. Zergs will only get you so far this point has been proven in almost every MMO. At the end of the day Superior tactics will outclass a Zerg anyday. Not to offend the coalition members but thats exactly the tactic you employed. Starcraft ftw
Laboratus Gallente BGG Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:12:00 - [169] Originally by: Manfred Sideous Adapt and Overcome. Zergs will only get you so far this point has been proven in almost every MMO. At the end of the day Superior tactics will outclass a Zerg anyday. Not to offend the coalition members but thats exactly the tactic you employed. You realize you had 1000 pilots at your disposal and could have attacked 5-7 major station systems simotaneously. Then when those sytems POS came out of renforced you then again could have attacked simotaneously again and BOB and Allies would only effectively be able to respond to a few of those spots. A titan or a group of titans is insugnifigant when you have the rescources and ability to attack more places than can be defended at one time. But when you play directly into the defenders hand allowing them to setup proper defense and dictate the battlefield your going to walk away with a bittersweet and at best marginal victory. IMO if the coallition is truly commited to the goal of dismantling the power block of Band of Brothers and their allies Tactics will win the fight not numbers. Titans and moms are symbolically very important. If one side can show a significant enough show of force and lower morale enough to reduce the common members trust in their FCs, they will start bringing in not their best and will start to hesitate. This will cause them to lose more, and soon morale will collapse, and members and corps start to leave. It's much more effective to attack morale than military strong points. Death of a titan might do the trick. Or not. The coalition has shown that they can take what ever they want, no matter what is brought against them. This has raised their morale quite a bit. And might just be the thing they need to launch a full scale attack into delve. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
pershphanie T1TS Holding Corp Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:20:00 - [170] No. Uh uh. They cant be.... WTF? You can't throw yourselves a parade for losing 40 dreads. I dont even care what you may or may not have destroyed. You lost 40 dreads. Didn't you get the memo? You got ******* owned! Party is over. Unless the coalition FC is a bob alt spy who thought it would be funny (and it is) to form eve's largest suicide fleet, then that FC seriously needs to consider switching professions. Did they think they were playing WoW? unbelievable. if losing 40 dreads is considered a victory then things must be going really badly for you guys. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why - Targoviste

Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:21:00 - [171] Originally by: Blacklight There's no wonder lots of us are boycotting these forums these days. "OMG 5 BoB Dreads died" - mahoosive backslapping "OMG coalition lost a load of dreads" - dreads mean nothing we can replace them easily One could be excused for assuming that there is a -100 points of IQ penalty for posting on Eve-O given the utter stupidity of the comments on this forum. Regardless of the outcome of this war the community deteriorates daily. Just sorry : Our objective was to destroy the POS. We did. Your objective was to protect the POS, destroying as many Cap as you could. you destroyed a lot of cap, yes. 37 cap (what is generally admited by both sides) OR 70 mean a lot of money. You don't understand. it's not like AAA, RA, TCF or D¦ would have lost 70 cap alone, it's distributed amound all Alliance who got there. Even If you lost 70, that is no more than 8 dread per Alliance (i take max numbers for your peasure.) What do you think of the fake news : "OMG GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT VICTORY BOB LOST 8 DREADS oneoneone". 8 Dreads for Bob ? Peanuts. So each of us gave a peanut and Bob loose one POS they were supose to defend. That mean the unified coalition can take anyone of your POSes, no matter what you do. 19h30 Eve time, first hostiles are coming near your pos 20h00 dreads coming in 21h00 or so, your pos is down. ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: Clavius Der I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
Z33ro Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:22:00 - [172] Mmm... any confirmation of the destroyed titan in production yesterday?
Griseus Amarr Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:24:00 - [173] As on of the capital pilots i want to say that 700 local limit is worst thing that GM's could do. After i pressed Jump button it took me about 15 minutes to jump into system. And as for loses, that was total bu***t. Capitals jumped to pos and stuck between systhem just enough time for the wave to before them be killed. After jumping in and suffering lag , dreads beacame a victim of all the same old "game mechanics" we seeing for a quite along time. BOB fleet was already at POS, so they don't need to load, and POS not affected by lags. ------------------------- Hunter
pershphanie T1TS Holding Corp Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:29:00 - [174] Originally by: Griseus As on of the capital pilots i want to say that 700 local limit is worst thing that GM's could do. After i pressed Jump button it took me about 15 minutes to jump into system. And as for loses, that was total bu***t. Capitals jumped to pos and stuck between systhem just enough time for the wave to before them be killed. After jumping in and suffering lag , dreads beacame a victim of all the same old "game mechanics" we seeing for a quite along time. BOB fleet was already at POS, so they don't need to load, and POS not affected by lags. Have you guys all gone insane? Is the outcome of the fight so hard to deal with that you had to detach yourselves from reality completly? You don't get to bring in a 500man blob to a pos and then complain their was lag. You get zero sympathy. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why - Targoviste
Samiloth Justinian AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.30 17:40:00 - [175] The only thing you can count on when reading a forum to an online game (no matter what game), you always find a bunch of people, who nothing about Startcraft, talking about Zerg. Originally by: Manfred Sideous Zergs will only get you so far this point has been proven in almost every MMO. At the end of the day Superior tactics will outclass a Zerg anyday. Not to offend the coalition members but thats exactly the tactic you employed. How about aiming to get superior tactics and playing Zerg? It isn't like Zerg is about making as much troops as possible and blob the enemy, blobbing the enemy is only a strategic option available to Zerg to use to further your gameplan. Now.. Since Starcraft:Broodwar IMO is the best game ever created I recommend all of you guys to download some Korean pro-gamer replays to watch. Much enjoyable, far more fun then taking part in forum wars. :)
whahein Minmatar wh inc	Posted - 2007.03.30 18:00:00 - [176] Originally by: pershphanie You don't get to bring in a 500man blob to a pos and then complain their was lag. You get zero sympathy. does'nt bringing a blob sort of require that you ountnumber your opponent on the grid witch i figure newer actually happened what happened instead was that a 500man fleet got outblobbed by a 200 fleet since the system did not want to let the 500 man fleet in at all.
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.03.30 18:02:00 - [177] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Griseus As on of the capital pilots i want to say that 700 local limit is worst thing that GM's could do. After i pressed Jump button it took me about 15 minutes to jump into system. And as for loses, that was total bu**t. Capitals jumped to pos and stuck between systhem just enough time for the wave to before them be killed. After jumping in and suffering lag , dreads beacame a victim of all the same old "game mechanics" we seeing for a quite along time. BOB fleet was already at POS, so they don't need to load, and POS not affected by lags. Have you guys all gone insane? Is the outcome of the fight so hard to deal with that you had to detach yourselves from reality completly? You don't get to bring in a 500man blob to a pos and then complain their was lag. You get zero sympathy. Erm ....They jumped and after awhile their suport and bob support couldn't jump ,they are just saying that they meet their goals but that the figth was lag hell and off course that the defenders always have the uperhand in that situation. I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.*
JFxSummoner Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.30 18:09:00 - [178] An Epoch indeed and full props to both sides for a truely historic day in EvE...... only thing that went wrong was CCP its a damn shame they cant put a couple of nodes dedicated to one system or constellation when something this paramount is about to take place in there game. can you imagine how fun that would have been if it didnt take literally 15+ minutes for most people to load grids
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.30 18:21:00 - [179] Originally by: Blacklight There's no wonder lots of us are boycotting these forums these days. "OMG 5 BoB Dreads died" - mahoosive backslapping "OMG coalition lost a load of dreads" - dreads mean nothing we can replace them easily One could be excused for assuming that there is a -100 points of IQ penalty for posting on Eve-O given the utter stupidity of the comments on this forum. Regardless of the outcome of this war the community deteriorates daily. As long as you mean that the drivel comes from all sides (those involved on either side and those uninvolved, but somehow unable cure or avert their verbal---or text-based, as it were--- diahrrea), then I wholeheartedly endorse your sentiments. If not, then you're just as guilty of the biased BS you're attempting to deride.
relentless2	Posted - 2007.03.30 18:29:00 - [180] Originally by: Ghost Reaper Originally by: Ewa Quillam Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Ewa Quillam Why are you bitter, BoB didn't loose a titan anyway, right? Doesn't anyone else find it slightly amiss that the whole coalitions offensive was based off a rumour, which could've well been for a double agent spy? Anyone at all? Doesn't anyone find it strange that up to date, there is no official BoB statement on this? No, they don't care... hell they don't, they must be crushing their teeth over this, but they still continue to play their mind game. Btw, everyone has information and facts. I believe it, many of us believe it, but you wish we didn't so our morale drops. Oh, still waiting for the Molle post. could it be becasue anything they say is twisted completly my 'the coalition' both sides will never know/tell was was in array. 'The coalition' lost the biggest amount of capitals in history of eve, bob 'might' have lost a titan. All they lost if anything was the POS and componets (which cost around 45billin anyway)as well as all the BS and support. It was a epic fight, and the truth will probaly never be revealed, they could have lost 50caps for nothing, or for a titan, either way they lost more.... Moral blow? You are joking? We are on a big high right now, we just ganked 50 capital ships and a lot of support. (by we i mean all the friendlies involved) See you at the next fight, bring better loot next time^^....end of Gr Keep telling yourself all that.You tryed to save pos and failed.So to make up for you guys exploited several lagged out not even in game pilots.You did the only thing you had left able to be done.Simple. Honestly I was surprised that LV came and supported bob.. because when your titan pos was assulted... it got pwnzored and you got WHAT for back up? So good on you guys for doing what your allies wouldn't do for you.



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