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CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 7237	Posted - 2016.11.15 10:19:56 - [1] - Quote The huge expansion EVE Online: Ascension has been deployed on November 15 during an extended downtime. Please use this thread for general feedback. If your email address is unverified, you need to verify your email before you can play! WIth EVE Online: Ascension we get free access to EVE Online with the Clone States mechanics, new structures in form of Engineering Complexes to catapult industry game play to a new level, a full revamp of fleet boost mechanics, new mining boost mechanics, a fantastic new fitting simulation, revamp of the Rorqual, phenomena generators for Titans, mining NPCs, a completely overhauled new player experience "Inception", amazing graphic overhauls and a lot more! This expansion is massive The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the patch notes. To report issues, please use the thread EVE Online: Ascension - Issues (PC). For Mac users, please use the thread EVE Online: Ascension - Mac feedback and issues. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Xhat WaySeeker Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 12:54:14 - [2] - Quote @CPP Phantom Blood Raider Cerebral Accelerator has stopped working and bio has been resetted. Please check the issue.
Uno Muerto ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 12:54:39 - [3] - Quote You deleted my bio.
Kinizsi FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 13	Posted - 2016.11.15 12:58:01 - [4] - Quote No matter if you disabled it on the account page, it still requires the Two Factor Authentication everytime you log in
Sophia Mileghere Scandium Defense and Security Inc. Dark - Alliance 87	Posted - 2016.11.15 12:58:31 - [5] - Quote Can you bring the old voice back?
Davionia Vanshel Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 32	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:00:30 - [6] - Quote For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice.
Beyl Ahashion Working Community Inc. Affirmative. 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:00:59 - [7] - Quote My bios were deleted and the characters that had the +10 cerebral boost lost it. Otherwise, so far it looks great.
StarRanger gaming is not a crime The Volition Cult 28	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:01:11 - [8] - Quote Uno Muerto wrote: You deleted my bio. same ^^ Gÿà playing with spaceships since 2003, serious business!
Obidiah Kane Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 41	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:01:16 - [9] - Quote Kinizsi wrote: No matter if you disabled it on the account page, it still requires the Two Factor Authentication everytime you log in Spot who doesn't read the patch notes or the dev blogs.
Minami Ikuta Mecha Enterprises Fleet Spaceship Bebop 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:02:09 - [10] - Quote As always these thing take time to adjust to but so far I'm not sold on 1) the fitting browser expanding to the left of the fitting window, 2) the pictures of the ships in the fitting browser looks nice but means I have to scroll a lot more because the divisions are now wider, and 3) the training queue doesn't seem to be able to detatch itself from the character sheet and that means too much scrolling.

Ly'coN Don't Panic... 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:05:46 - [11] - Quote Can confirm Blood Raider Cerebral Accelerator's stopped working on all my toons. Both Advanced and normal.
Dethahal Khardula Brooklynn Eve and Co. Survival Instinct 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:06:58 - [12] - Quote character sheet isn't very functional, but the WORST change is the change of the chatwindow gear to open the options . the new one looks AWFUL
Kinizsi FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 13	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:07:22 - [13] - Quote Obidiah Kane wrote: Kinizsi wrote: No matter if you disabled it on the account page, it still requires the Two Factor Authentication everytime you log in Spot who doesn't read the patch notes or the dev blogs. I verified my e-mail but still I can't get rid of two factor auth......
Gayooseman GooseCorp 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:09:34 - [14] - Quote Tried creating a new character on my account to get the NPE. got dumped in space with the old opportunities stuff, no NPE
Memphis Baas 2256	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:12:41 - [15] - Quote Gayooseman wrote: Tried creating a new character on my account to get the NPE. got dumped in space with the old opportunities stuff, no NPE Several people reported from the test server yesterday and the day before, that only NEW alpha accounts get the NPE. Current accounts creating a new character do not.
Gayooseman GooseCorp 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:14:46 - [16] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Gayooseman wrote: Tried creating a new character on my account to get the NPE. got dumped in space with the old opportunities stuff, no NPE Several people reported from the test server yesterday and the day before, that only NEW alpha accounts get the NPE. Current accounts creating a new character do not. ah pity, was looking forward to experiencing it, thought i'd mention it seeing as the NPE is such a big deal with this release
Keiko Ogawa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:14:57 - [17] - Quote Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Yes, please. Or give us the option to toggle the old voice, for those who prefer it. Actually I would already be happy if I could get the old "Warp Drive active" sound back ;)
Thayla Caldari Resilience. DARKNESS. 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:15:14 - [18] - Quote How do you specify a two factor key like before so I can use the same key for each account? Or is that now gone and I have to track each one separately?
Duke Garland Solar Vista. The Anubis Accord 33	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:16:44 - [19] - Quote The annoyance of two-factor auth: Don't get me wrong from the subject, I'm all for that additional layer of safety for my accounts - I'm just baffled by how much of a nuisance you turned that into. I'm using one mail address for both my accounts, why did I (since yesterday) need to verify that 6 times so far? Apart from that, why do I need to request a seperate two-factor auth (I'll dub it TFA onwards) for each of my toons? I don't even want to imagine the workload for people wanting to log in their miniature armies of 5 and more toons each day. Please, CCP, reconsider your method of TFA or at least eXplain the reasoning behind the current procedure. For everyone's convenience I myself would suggest looking into the following: Whenever I want to log in (multiple) accounts, only one TFA is generated and sent for each of the mail addresses involved in the process. Most people would use as few mails as possible already I imagine so that would streamline the whole process. So basically instead of "enter the TFA code for account [xyz]" and having to repeat that process for each of my accounts it could be "enter the TFA code for e-mail [[email protected]]". I don't know how long each current TFA code sent is valid for (as it doesn't say that in the mail I got - please add that info to it) but invalidating it after, say, 15 minutes would give everyone plenty of time to log in as many toons as they have tied to one e-mail address. If you then need to reconnect any amount of accounts and your first TFA code is invalidated, you will get another TFA code generated and sent for each e-mail address involved again. This process should still apply to TQ and each of the test servers seperately, to keep that layer up individually for each you may want to log on. regards Duke Garland
Astroyka IXXAXAAR 186	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:16:48 - [20] - Quote Anyone else having issues opening the fitting window? Just me Astroyka A New Eden pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden www.astroyka.net @Astroyka

Kaelke Hashshashin Inc. Spectre Fleet Alliance 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:17:45 - [21] - Quote CCP what happened to my bio and my blood raider accelerator? Put them back please, kthx.
Benevolant George Weapons of ass destruction 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:18:31 - [22] - Quote Pulse Activated Nexus Invulnerability Core bpo doesnt appeared to be seeded?
Swind FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:21:15 - [23] - Quote Two-Factor authentication!!! I never enabled two-factor authentication on my accounts. Thus, after your diabolic patch all my accounts spamming me for verification code. I checked account managment, its STILL disabled. -Why the hell you enabled this feutere? -How can i disable it? - Is it a bug, (since the Account managment says its still disabled), or a player-annoyin-mindfucking-new-developed-feautre? Are you planning disable it soon????
Thayla Caldari Resilience. DARKNESS. 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:23:34 - [24] - Quote Duke Garland wrote: The annoyance of two-factor auth: Don't get me wrong from the subject, I'm all for that additional layer of safety for my accounts - I'm just baffled by how much of a nuisance you turned that into. I'm using one mail address for both my accounts, why did I (since yesterday) need to verify that 6 times so far? Apart from that, why do I need to request a seperate two-factor auth (I'll dub it TFA onwards) for each of my toons? I don't even want to imagine the workload for people wanting to log in their miniature armies of 5 and more toons each day. Please, CCP, reconsider your method of TFA or at least eXplain the reasoning behind the current procedure. For everyone's convenience I myself would suggest looking into the following: Whenever I want to log in (multiple) accounts, only one TFA is generated and sent for each of the mail addresses involved in the process. Most people would use as few mails as possible already I imagine so that would streamline the whole process. So basically instead of "enter the TFA code for account [xyz]" and having to repeat that process for each of my accounts it could be "enter the TFA code for e-mail [[email protected]]". I don't know how long each current TFA code sent is valid for (as it doesn't say that in the mail I got - please add that info to it) but invalidating it after, say, 15 minutes would give everyone plenty of time to log in as many toons as they have tied to one e-mail address. If you then need to reconnect any amount of accounts and your first TFA code is invalidated, you will get another TFA code generated and sent for each e-mail address involved again. This process should still apply to TQ and each of the test servers seperately, to keep that layer up individually for each you may want to log on. regards Duke Garland I think I have like 100+ emails from CCP today at this point trying to reset email verification. I'm stuck now waiting for the logout on the accounts page to do more (been spinning for like 5 minutes+).
Dethahal Khardula Brooklynn Eve and Co. Survival Instinct 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:24:27 - [25] - Quote ok, the skill section in the character sheet is really really bad. it is incredible hard to figure out what skills I have, which ones I am training, which ones I only have injected. and please, PLEASE, give us an external skillqueue, it is waaay too much cluttered already, no need to not be able to seperate the skillqueue from the skill window.
Anna Maria Yolo Neutron Blaster Solutions 9	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:24:42 - [26] - Quote General feedback : New skill layout is the total crap. The previous one was very good and you shouldnt touch it. It allowed long skill queue management. Skills were sorted ascending aphabetically. You broke both advantages. Skills are not sorted ascending (two columns), they take much more space on the screen (bigger spaces between lines - why????). the windows for the skill list and the queue are dramatically small. Now setting the queue is: looking for the skill in the unintuitive two column list scrolling up and down and dragging the skill into the small box of the queue. Changing anything in the queue requires scrolling up and down as well. Did you hire a new interface designer ex-employee of Microsoft?
Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:24:53 - [27] - Quote cant add my other accounts to the launcher...just gives a blank window with a cancel button bottom right.
Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. 1063	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:25:31 - [28] - Quote Dearest and most beloved CCP. I praise thee for thy patience and thy tolerance; of us loud an obnoxious playerbase. but in thy grace and position of in-game omnipotence, please give us back the old Aura voice. the new warpdrive-active is kinda jarring for one used to the soothing, near seductive tones of the previous Aura voice. a toggle, pretty please...... Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Thayla Caldari Resilience. DARKNESS. 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:26:49 - [29] - Quote I believe that their auth server is now dead. I can't log in, or out of the secure.eveonline.com. Getting "The service is unavailable" while typing this message. With everything else big in this release, this dual auth stuff could have waited for a maintenance patch...
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 451	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:27:42 - [30] - Quote Gayooseman wrote: Tried creating a new character on my account to get the NPE. got dumped in space with the old opportunities stuff, no NPE As per the patch notes: Quote: Please note, that for the Ascension release only brand new accounts with new characters will be able to participate in the updated tutorial. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*

Celly S River-Rats in space 443	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:27:49 - [31] - Quote CCP Phantom wrote: The huge expansion EVE Online: Ascension has been deployed on November 15 during an extended downtime. Please use this thread for general feedback. . so 2 factor auth is not enabled in my account settings, but the system says it is and I can't log in without going through the hoops... Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Vordek Rei Nexus Incorporated 125	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:29:39 - [32] - Quote Let's say I need Capital Ship Construction V asap. It is now impossible to see how many skill points that is required to reach level V. This kind of defeats the entire point of Skill Injectors and all the game mechanics surrounding skill points. So when you want to buy skill injectors to fix this, you can either go to google to try and figure out how to get the right amount of skill injectors or you can just roll a dice and hope that 10 skill injectors will do the job. Please fix this "feature" Straight
Gaius Clabbacus Basket of Deplorables 33	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:29:59 - [33] - Quote Congratulations to the art department for the new & improved icons on the command burst modules. They have really pulled all the stops to ensure a stunning visual!
Gayooseman GooseCorp 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:30:42 - [34] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: As per the patch notes: Quote: Please note, that for the Ascension release only brand new accounts with new characters will be able to participate in the updated tutorial. ah seems I missed that one, my bad
Isaac Korbut Weyland-Yutani Ind 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:35:06 - [35] - Quote I can't see the promised pilot's armor adn glasses
RankOutsider Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 23	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:37:15 - [36] - Quote I can't believe CCP actually recorded one of their hamsters sayng "warp drive active" for this release. This has to be a joke! EDIT: They also recorded it saying "docking request accepted"
Mirra Shakiel Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:37:55 - [37] - Quote New character sheet is a poorly designed addition. layout is poor, navigation is poor, I don't like it and want the old one back.
Dominique Aideron The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:37:59 - [38] - Quote Okay this is the only account I seem able to actually get onto. All the others are stuck in the loop you need to authorize in email, you do that and by the time it gives you the number it says it's failed. Pathetic, incidentally this is an alpha account the others I'm trying to get in on are paid. Stupidest crap ever.
Suzi Wilson Dot.Inc TRUE VINE 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:39:20 - [39] - Quote Isaac Korbut wrote: I can't see the promised pilot's armor and glasses wondering this myself, in regards to all the promised items. i have 2 accounts, and this one expires in 3 days. and it is the one that has been active for the required time
Dominic Jacara The GOLDEN KNIGHTS Elemental Tide 9	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:40:28 - [40] - Quote Well I'm in and everything so far looks ok to me. Liking all the things I saw on Test server, especially the clearer quantity numbers on items and the T2 colour outlining. Had to drop the UI speech level down to nothing to get rid of the absolutely hideous new sound for Aura though. Definitely a bad move to re-voice her.

MaadJ Bunyip Munitions 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:40:39 - [41] - Quote Benevolant Khan wrote: cant add my other accounts to the launcher...just gives a blank window with a cancel button bottom right. Same issue here :( Any solution to this joke of an issue ?
Nevase Prometeus Every Man for Himself Fidelas Constans 11	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:41:01 - [42] - Quote My remaining time effect of advance blood raider booster about 15 hours had disappear . Please check about that.
Celly S River-Rats in space 443	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:41:32 - [43] - Quote Dominique Aideron wrote: Okay this is the only account I seem able to actually get onto. All the others are stuck in the loop you need to authorize in email, you do that and by the time it gives you the number it says it's failed. Pathetic, incidentally this is an alpha account the others I'm trying to get in on are paid. Stupidest crap ever. \ Seems you have to do one at a time and wait for the auth code, even if you have 2 factor turned off in account management. also, there's the thing about alphas not being able to be online when any other account is from the same location. o/ just in case that helps. Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Tamazaki Suddenly Noodles 48	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:47:21 - [44] - Quote Hello guys! If you log in as Alpha clone it only displays the total amount of Alpha-compatible skill points you have. There is no way to discern the real total other than manually adding them up (ain't got time for that). It would be better if it displayed all your SP, like this (for example): Alpha Skill Points: 5,000,000 Total Skill Points: 20,000,000
Klaw Athonille Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:47:30 - [45] - Quote The new voice is really bad... Please change it bad ASAP, or at the very least allow a toggle to the old voice. If you have a toggle to the old voice you will see very fast few people will stay with the new one
Noble Alice Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:49:04 - [46] - Quote Am I the only one who want ability to see my portraits for character sheet in old beautifully rendered static style? Why should I spend time on actually really good portrait creation if I can't use the results myself? I can adapt to this new strange character sheet (it's just reasonably bad)... but that lo-fi 3d ugly alised bland head (or nothing) is really just sad.
Steijn Quay Industries 1077	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:49:14 - [47] - Quote new character sheet is an absolute abortion, bring back the old one. .....and if you want constructive feedback..... - cluttered. - hard to find what you want. - layout is disgusting.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 451	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:50:47 - [48] - Quote Suzi Wilson wrote: Isaac Korbut wrote: I can't see the promised pilot's armor and glasses wondering this myself, in regards to all the promised items. i have 2 accounts, and this one expires in 3 days. and it is the one that has been active for the required time All Ascension Rewards will be release in a later patch at the end of the month. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Undefined Destiny Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:51:04 - [49] - Quote The new art for inventory stuff like the Slaver Hound and Long-Limb Roes is amazing. Missiles, Torpedoes, Probes, etc. are looking so much better too. Even the minor update to Damage Controls looks slick. Good work CCP. RIP to the EM torpedo as skill injector scam? :( I agree the new Aura voice isn't great. Its jarring and "matronly". Aura's old sound just gave the impression of her being an enthusiastic advisor. The new Aura sounds... commanding, clipped. I almost feel like I don't want to go into warp just so I don't have to listen to her.
Raiden Harmann Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:53:18 - [50] - Quote Well, have one account (paid ) verified ok, second account (paid) different email accounts for both, no emails for second at all. let me back in pls i need a code!! 7o

Suzi Wilson Dot.Inc TRUE VINE 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:54:31 - [51] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Suzi Wilson wrote: Isaac Korbut wrote: I can't see the promised pilot's armor and glasses wondering this myself, in regards to all the promised items. i have 2 accounts, and this one expires in 3 days. and it is the one that has been active for the required time All Ascension Rewards will be release in a later patch at the end of the month. Ok thank you 2nd question - Will I still get all the rewards on this character. If on the time of issuing, this account is in alpha. Even though on the release of Ascension. And all the time leading up to it, it is was subscribed?
Sergey Hawk The Sith Syndicate REFORD 142	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:56:03 - [52] - Quote Biography cleared after update and the new bio does not remember. If booster ceased to affect just drink another one Lauda about CCP New camera: It's a sh.tbox! It zooms like crazy and centering before rotation is a disaster. It's amazing - all these dev teams, and you make a piece of crap like this.
Winter Archipelago Autumn Industrial Enterprises 792	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:57:06 - [53] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Suzi Wilson wrote: Isaac Korbut wrote: I can't see the promised pilot's armor and glasses wondering this myself, in regards to all the promised items. i have 2 accounts, and this one expires in 3 days. and it is the one that has been active for the required time All Ascension Rewards will be release in a later patch at the end of the month. Any info on whether or not we'll still receive the rewards if an account lapses before then, but was otherwise subbed the entire period? Most of my accounts are going to end up dropping towards the end of the month as I gear up for my usual Thanksgiving through New Year's hiatus. For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
Dragon Mnementh Legion Interpolis 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 13:59:51 - [54] - Quote PLEASE bring back the old voice
Voxinian 108	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:00:21 - [55] - Quote Can you please unlock the race limitation? I have an Amarr character and never flown Ammar ships, my whole hangar is filled with Caldari/Gallente and Pirate ships... and I can't use a single one of them. Just make it so that you can fly all T1 ships from every race. This new clone state is completely useless for me now.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 451	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:00:42 - [56] - Quote Winter Archipelago wrote: ISD Max Trix wrote: Suzi Wilson wrote: Isaac Korbut wrote: I can't see the promised pilot's armor and glasses wondering this myself, in regards to all the promised items. i have 2 accounts, and this one expires in 3 days. and it is the one that has been active for the required time All Ascension Rewards will be release in a later patch at the end of the month. Any info on whether or not we'll still receive the rewards if an account lapses before then, but was otherwise subbed the entire period? Most of my accounts are going to end up dropping towards the end of the month as I gear up for my usual Thanksgiving through New Year's hiatus. My understanding is that the rewards are for everyone who met the time frame which ends today. So if you lapse after downtime tomorrow, you should be good. I will try and get an official word on that. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Deadman Ohaya Dead Logistics 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:04:54 - [57] - Quote Lost my blood raider cerebal accelerator boost. only took it at 9am today :(
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:05:53 - [58] - Quote Training time changes when I scroll training queue up and down. http://puu.sh/sj3aY/959cf2b9d8.jpg Here we can see 6:21:32, but when I scroll it down-up briefly, it changes: http://puu.sh/sj3cC/c7c7816c68.jpg
Mr Duffo The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 213	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:06:37 - [59] - Quote killed my bio not cool. Skegg¦½ld, Skálm¦½ld, Skildir ro Klofnir! Never forget! #OICXmassacre2014
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 451	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:07:03 - [60] - Quote Danetta Valens wrote: Training time changes when I scroll training queue up and down. http://puu.sh/sj3aY/959cf2b9d8.jpg Here we can see 6:21:32, but when I scroll it down-up briefly, it changes: http://puu.sh/sj3cC/c7c7816c68.jpg Can you do this again and send a bug report right after, please? ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*

Tyrindel Vaedrelin Ill-Fated 12	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:08:00 - [61] - Quote auras voice sounds like some pre teen please return or fix
Greta Wolfcastle Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:09:10 - [62] - Quote Overall, I am not a fan of the new character sheet. I do like the horizontally aligned tabs. They are simple and everything is easy to find. However, the Skills tab is a big downgrade from the previous version. It looks "cool" but is confusing and provides less information than the old version. Secondly, the character portrait is terrible. I know there is an option to close it, and that is what I have done, but I liked having the portraits that I spent time on being shown. Not some default view of my character staring off into space like an idiot. Get rid of the live picture or have an option to switch between that and the character photo and do something different with the skills tab and the new character sheet will be much better. Also, the new voice. I really do not like the new voice.
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:09:49 - [63] - Quote Inventory tooltips are inconvenient. It's probably okay with "icons" layout, but I usually use "list". Example: You hover your cursor over object (some module / ship). Tooltip appears. Now you want to select previous object (one row above). Now your cursor hovering a tooltip and not an object, makes harder to select object. Pain for trader at least.
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 86	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:15:54 - [64] - Quote Character sheet top banner with half-cropped, pixelated and un-interactive character model is terrible UI design. Hiding the top banner is a cop-out. My character deserves to be seen. I'm just going to quote myself from another thread: Quote: ...the character portrait is even worse than I imagined. it's a total waste of space and looks ugly. the portrait cannot be zoomed in/out or rotated, so it's a half cropped head that moves around. I honestly prefer the layout of the display pic and character info that is on the current character sheet. the static square display pic with the info opposite is simple and easy to understand. I like the idea of the animated character portrait, and this could apply to a square layout, although the low quality of the character render (not-even anti-aliasing fixes it) just looks horrible. I prefer the well rendered static image. The character sheet needs to bring back the option to view portrait/full view, so we can admire our vanity items (RIP CQ) - Character portrait header is a waste of space - Square pic shows more of character - Current picture is better rendered - Make portrait zoomable - Option to view full body - Re-order the character sheet tabs so 'Character' is before 'Skills' - Aura vocal samples are cringe-worthy - T2 and T3 icons on ship icons in hanger are very indistinguishable - Ship fitting simulation mode needs a 'reset' button I will admit the ship fitting simulation is a great, and well-waited for tool!! Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
OverlordY Interspan 40	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:22:30 - [65] - Quote Been on eve for 13 years.. The new character sheet is a mess, its so complicated and I can't even figure out what im doing on it.
Meerclaw Wise Humans Sword Villore Accords 15	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:22:58 - [66] - Quote Bio deleted and Cerebral accelerator boost gone -_-
Ksand Defton Aeternum Solum 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:25:49 - [67] - Quote Can we have old AURA back? New one is so annoying, please give us a choice between old and new.
Simi van Dacus PLEX CORP 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:27:34 - [68] - Quote The new voice (warp drive active voice, not the tutorial voice) does not fit in at all with Eve universe. The prior voice was perfect, you could make it as an option in the audio section, you made sliders for every sound in the game, why not add the option for the old one? There are many players that identify that voice with Eve universe, there really is no need to replace it with a completely flat and uninspired voice. Again, i'm talking about "warp drive active" voice.
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:32:10 - [69] - Quote OverlordY wrote: Been on eve for 13 years.. The new character sheet is a mess, its so complicated and I can't even figure out what im doing on it. Pretty much this.
Oraac Ensor 710	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:33:07 - [70] - Quote Celly S wrote: CCP Phantom wrote: The huge expansion EVE Online: Ascension has been deployed on November 15 during an extended downtime. Please use this thread for general feedback. . so 2 factor auth is not enabled in my account settings, but the system says it is and I can't log in without going through the hoops... Likewise.

Joseph O'Neil Phoenix Incarnate DevilBear 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:33:24 - [71] - Quote I absolutely love the new explosions. I do however have some feedback I'd like to provide. I use the orbit camera pretty much all the time, and when using the "look at" function, the camera used to linger on a ship that is exploding so that you could watch the explosion up close. It no longer lingers on a target, at least not for long enough to see the majesty of these new explosions up close. Would be nice if the camera would stay on the target ship a bit longer.
Tolui Azaph Tiny Maids Provisional Unit 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:35:57 - [72] - Quote I don't particularly hate the new aura voice, but I liked the old one a whole lot. In fact, funny as it is, that warp drive active sound was what got me into the game. It probably isn't feasible to get the old one back, but I'll ask anyway. Failing that, can you at least release the warp drive sound somewhere? IIRC it was the only one missing from the soundcloud.
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:36:05 - [73] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Danetta Valens wrote: Training time changes when I scroll training queue up and down. http://puu.sh/sj3aY/959cf2b9d8.jpg Here we can see 6:21:32, but when I scroll it down-up briefly, it changes: http://puu.sh/sj3cC/c7c7816c68.jpg Can you do this again and send a bug report right after, please? It can be replicated 10 times out of 10. However, sending bug report is too complicated.
Oraac Ensor 712	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:37:45 - [74] - Quote RankOutsider wrote: I can't believe CCP actually recorded one of their hamsters sayng "warp drive active" for this release. This has to be a joke! EDIT: They also recorded it saying "docking request accepted" A hamster, you say? I thought it was K9. Either way, the old voice was 1000% better.
Wedge Yamamoto Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:43:28 - [75] - Quote Like everyone else, my cerebral accelerator is gone. Probably lost about 16 hours. Bug report submitted.
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 53	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:43:59 - [76] - Quote Some randomly assembled Ascension feedback from my POV: Launcher Launcher forgets added accounts by default, noticed that when I had to restart the launcher after email verification (why exactly do I need to restart the launcher for that??). Should remember the accounts (not the password) by default. Should also not have to restart the launcher after verification. New Aura voice Holy s... The old Aura wasn't the best voice acting in world but calm and fitting to the game. The new voice is.. I really don't know how to describe it... the worst I ever heard in any game. That jumpy, pseudo-happy voice combined with the filters is 100% annoying and 100% not fitting the game. "WARP ACTIVATED OH HELL YEAH!!" That's how it sounds like. I feel real pain when listening to that, and the first thing I had to do was to deactivate it. I have no idea what you guys were thinking releasing something like that?! Please add an option to go back to the old voice ASAP! New character window - Very unorganized and confusing. - Window size is way too small/squeezed. Tough to use when your skill queue is >1 month. Training queue should be an extra window at the right side as before. - Default setting on skills filter is unclear in the German translation at least: "Voraussetzung f++r" = "Requirement for" ... for what? Who? When? What do you want from me?? - Can no longer see how much of a specific skill was trained already towards its next level. Fitting tool - Good to have that in the game, but much to do you have. - Unintuitive AF. Too many clicks necessary to get to what you want, which is the ship and a list of all possible modules you could add right now. That should be the default setting. Many icons don't really tell what they do, so you need to mouse-over and memorize them. - Passive shield HP regeneration is all wrong. I compared several of my old ships with the EFT values and in all cases the numbers are about half of what they actually are. - I cannot see the mining amount of my lasers and/or drones. There should be a per minute and per cycle view. - Need profiles for incoming damage for mission fitting. - Recommendation would be a great thing to have. I.E. you right-click on defense and select "Filter modules that increase passive shield defense" - Also show ship bonus in info window according to my current skills, like "+10% drone damage and HP per level (+40%)" - Add option to show ship bonus if I had a certain mastery set completed. - Module left-click should not include offline mode, because we don't offline modules on a regular basis. The button in the radial menu can handle that. - Modules should also include DPS/HPS values, i.E.: remote shield booster. - Again: German translation is sometimes very strange, example: Mining Preservation charge applies the effect "Bergbaukristall-Schwankungsbonus" = "Mining crystal sway bonus" ... what?! - "Buy all" is ignoring rigs.
Do Nut Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:45:26 - [77] - Quote Please! - Bring back the old voice! - Bring back the separated training queue! - Bring back the "SAVE" button for the training queue! - Bring back the skill points of each skill! - Bring back the rank of each skill! Please! And thank you: - The simulation mode is great! - The fitting browser is great too! I wish good luck to you. Changing the login and security algorithms at the same day, when the rush of the alphas will start, is a very bad decision. Happiness is a way of travelling not a destination.
SdeeeL Shadows of Earth Das Fornax Protektorat 8	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:46:17 - [78] - Quote Email verification required A confirmation email has been sent to ******@web.de. eh no.. there is no email so.. ccp what happend? :(
Ordious Irvam Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:46:23 - [79] - Quote Hi, So why can't an existing account experience the NPE when starting a new pilot? People coming back to the game, as an alpha initially, should have the ability to experience it! What is the reasoning behind this? It makes no sense to me and has totally ruined my return to the game, as I was excited to actually play something close to a modern video game story in the Eve universe.
Andronicus Maximo Knights of Guinness and Blue Shamrocks 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:46:43 - [80] - Quote New explosions are nice, but i don't think i'll be spending much time watching them. Character sheet seems awkward but i guess that's just a case of getting used to it. Ditto for the ship fitting window. Where did my Blood Raider booster go?.....can i have it back please. Where did my Bio go?.....Can i have it back please. (if you had said you were going to delete them beforehand, we could have saved them elsewhere.) What have you done to Aura's sexy voice? Please bring it back ASAP. The new one sounds like the annoying voice on Google maps and my wife won't let me play with the volume up now. Not really sure about the email verification requirement. I resent having to provide my RL details just because some previous Eve quitters might return to the game now that its F2P and not remember the names of their chars....lame. Telling me that i am now training skills at 2x speed is a misnomer. I am training at the same speed as before. I may be training at 2x the speed of Alpha clones but hey, that's their choice. Looking forward to giving you more of my hard earned cash in the NES sale. My ships will now dazzle gankers and admirers alike across the cluster. Overall you seem to have put considerable effort into enhancing new player experience for the F2P brigade, whilst not putting quite as much in for the hardcore, pay to play, everyday existing players. What happened to the redeemable items that were promised to players with fully paid up subscriptions? Looking forward to the interaction with the new NPC mining fleets. Well done on improving the AI in that respect. Hope to see this expanded to all NPC interaction soon. Initial impression 6/10 but hoping that this improves soon.

Caim Naberius Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:47:39 - [81] - Quote Thank you for the update. I feel alive, i feel happy, CCP you rock!
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 455	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:47:46 - [82] - Quote Ordious Irvam wrote: Hi, So why can't an existing account experience the NPE when starting a new pilot? People coming back to the game, as an alpha initially, should have the ability to experience it! What is the reasoning behind this? It makes no sense to me and has totally ruined my return to the game, as I was excited to actually play something close to a modern video game story in the Eve universe. Can only do so much at a time. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 87	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:48:18 - [83] - Quote I would also like to point out the inconsistency of the updated item icon quantity values. http://image.prntscr.com/image/4b0ce25f4e4b4c2e97305701b8b055e6.png This shows that it was a either a rushed job, or very poorly executed. I'll admit it is almost un-noticable, and most players wouldn't see it. But as a designer, I notice these things, and see it as a poor effort. Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Syri Taneka Un4seen Development Sev3rance 145	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:49:48 - [84] - Quote The Fitting Simulation system is... underwhelming. For reasons I cannot explain, my skills aren't applying to theoretical fits inside the Simulations. This kind of ruins the entire purpose of them. To clarify: Skills relevant to the HULL itself are applying and calculating normally, but not skills to modules or ammunition. This is causing values for things such as DPS and Command Burst effectiveness/duration to be completely wrong. Until/unless this is fixed, I'm still going to have to wait for EFT to update to redesign my Command Ship fittings...
Ix Method Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 511	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:49:50 - [85] - Quote Wiping your old skill queue when logging in as an Alpha was kinda blindsiding, hadn't bothered with an Evemon plan since the new extended queue and do I feel stupid right now Someway to maintain the queue but automagically skip Omega skills would have been lovely. Travelling at the speed of love.
Syri Taneka Un4seen Development Sev3rance 145	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:51:57 - [86] - Quote Ordious Irvam wrote: Hi, So why can't an existing account experience the NPE when starting a new pilot? People coming back to the game, as an alpha initially, should have the ability to experience it! What is the reasoning behind this? It makes no sense to me and has totally ruined my return to the game, as I was excited to actually play something close to a modern video game story in the Eve universe. An obvious way around this would be to create a Brand New Account and just play it through the NPE = P
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1205	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:52:24 - [87] - Quote First question that pops up - How do I turn off that horrible yellow Omega popup. Someone at CCP has got to be having a great laugh at our expense over that at every login. I wonder if it wouldn't make an amazing lot of sense to just leave Omega accounts alone (no ugly annoying pointless popups at login) and have a pretty popup if your not paying to play. Damn I pay premium for my accounts, that should include no unnecessary popups. If I were to run Alpha accounts I would expect popups as a reminder, there is a better way to play. -- - -- Second - Is there an option to change the childish voice over either back to what it was or anything else.. Seriously, that voice is just BAD.. The tone of voice for "Warp dive active", sounds like a stoned prostitute propositioning a mug in a B grade movie. (If it were to say - $20 for a blow job - you'd have a winner) "Docking permission requested" - Is that what it is really saying, it's pretty garbled so I want to make sure. Prompts like this should be clear and concise in a tone that is easy to listen to and understand - Current voice, is far from either. Oh and I see we are back to 30 second black screens while undocking - Awesome. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 639	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:52:42 - [88] - Quote SERIOUSLY Pretty pissed off with this two factor authentication BS. Get your **** together CCP. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:55:02 - [89] - Quote Can't see my portraits (not to say how bad was the idea to remove our posed portraits from there) in character sheet on any accounts. I saw a button here on some screenshots, but I haven't. http://puu.sh/sj5gj/585009cff9.png
LJoker Marliac Arroz de Polvo 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:56:51 - [90] - Quote Skill queue menu requires fix! It is a lot of information on a small window. Making it confusing and messy and harder to see our information. If you want to keep this small icons new presentation at least put the skill queue on a separated window on the side like it was before so we can have a clear view of what is going on.

Mineral Ore R3d Fire Mouth Trumpet Cavalry 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:58:15 - [91] - Quote UGH, UNDO EVERYTHING. ITS ALL BAD Training Queue BAD Links Changes BAD Bio's getting deleted BAD Titan Phenom Changes wtfbbq? Mandatory two factor auth BAD (seriously gets annoying with 30 accounts k?) I don't even want to log in anymore today..... More bad things. I cant click on the fortizar hull to select it lawl, I have to select the Icon ONLY. Revert to last patch and remove all bad things!
Riza HR Outer Ring Security Services The Amish Mafia 12	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:01:03 - [92] - Quote how to turn back ON "warp active" and "docking accepted" voices???!!!
Do Nut Caldari State 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:02:57 - [93] - Quote Sgt Ocker wrote: ... The tone of voice for "Warp dive active", sounds like a stoned prostitute propositioning a mug in a B grade movie. (If it were to say - $20 for a blow job - you'd have a winner) ... MMD Happiness is a way of travelling not a destination.
Syri Taneka Un4seen Development Sev3rance 145	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:04:58 - [94] - Quote Mineral Ore wrote: Mandatory two factor auth BAD (seriously gets annoying with 30 accounts k?) You should only have to do it once per account so long as you consistently use the same PC. Really, 2FA is for your own good. I should have started using it ages ago.
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 456	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:05:17 - [95] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Winter Archipelago wrote: ISD Max Trix wrote: Suzi Wilson wrote: Isaac Korbut wrote: I can't see the promised pilot's armor and glasses wondering this myself, in regards to all the promised items. i have 2 accounts, and this one expires in 3 days. and it is the one that has been active for the required time All Ascension Rewards will be release in a later patch at the end of the month. Any info on whether or not we'll still receive the rewards if an account lapses before then, but was otherwise subbed the entire period? Most of my accounts are going to end up dropping towards the end of the month as I gear up for my usual Thanksgiving through New Year's hiatus. My understanding is that the rewards are for everyone who met the time frame which ends today. So if you lapse after downtime tomorrow, you should be good. I will try and get an official word on that. Spoke to CCP, Official word is if your account lapses tomorrow or later you will still get the rewards. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 639	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:09:38 - [96] - Quote Syri Taneka wrote: Mineral Ore wrote: Mandatory two factor auth BAD (seriously gets annoying with 30 accounts k?) You should only have to do it once per account so long as you consistently use the same PC. Really, 2FA is for your own good. I should have started using it ages ago. Having it as an option is fine. Being able to choose to NOT use it is fine. Several of us have more accounts than we'd like to admit, and many different emails associated with them. Having it forced down your throat is complete BS, especially when it's either not sending emails consistently OR you don't remember what email that account is associated with. Telling people they can't smoke is for they're own good too, but it's their choice whether they want to or not, as long as their not hurting other people. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Wolfgang Stoermer 30plus Fidelas Constans 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:12:45 - [97] - Quote SdeeeL wrote: Email verification required A confirmation email has been sent to ******@web.de. eh no.. there is no email so.. ccp what happend? :( I'm having the same issue with a hotmail account. even whitelisted [email protected] to try and eliminate the spam filter.
Riza HR Outer Ring Security Services The Amish Mafia 13	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:13:31 - [98] - Quote Riza HR wrote: how to turn back ON "warp active" and "docking accepted" voices???!!! and now when i press escape to enter menu my game crashes
Hisana State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:16:12 - [99] - Quote CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, will I won't be.
Voxinian 109	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:19:43 - [100] - Quote Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, will I won't be. At least you can fly your ships as your toon is from the same race as your ships. I can't fly s*t, just because my toon race is different from what I fly and trained for.

Hisana State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:22:20 - [101] - Quote Voxinian wrote: Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, will I won't be. At least you can fly your ships as your toon is from the same race as your ships. I can't fly s*t, just because my toon race is different from what I fly and trained for. No... no it's not. I'm Caldari, and a drone boat chatacter. I fly Gallente ships. So yeah, I won't be returning to this game.
Fridiy House of Tuachair 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:22:42 - [102] - Quote Not sure if intentional or has been mentioned already, but in the new ship fitting window you only get detailed info about your drones if you are in simulation mode. So if I want to know the modified optimal range, for example, I have to switch to simulation mode, otherwise just the drone bay window pops up.
Eternal Griever Nihil Novi Ltd. White Noise Alliance 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:24:01 - [103] - Quote Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, will I won't be. Let's get one thing straight, you are complaining about the fact you can fly any ship at all without paying a subscription? Shiiiiit, damn CCP, why do dey do dis...
Gayooseman GooseCorp 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:24:07 - [104] - Quote I see people complaining about the portrait in the character sheet, but my portrait isn't there, all I have is the thumbnail in the sidebar, I liked having my portrait in the character sheet. any idea how to get it to show up?
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 457	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:24:36 - [105] - Quote Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, well I won't be. CCP has been clear that this was going to happen since they first announced Clone States. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 591	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:28:19 - [106] - Quote Kenrailae wrote: Several of us have more accounts than we'd like to admit, and many different emails associated with them. You can use the same E-Mail with more than one account, then they even tell you on the account management page which other accounts share that mail address.. Comes in handy when you have more accounts than you can possibly remember login names, like me.. Although I also use different passwords for each and as such have put them all into my password database (KeePassX, I abso-*******-lutely recommend it to everyone). When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Hisana State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:32:11 - [107] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, well I won't be. CCP has been clear that this was going to happen since they first announced Clone States. This update obviously serves to bring back old players and in new ones. It's flawed when it comes to existing characters as I pointed out. If you aren't illterate as you seem, you should be able to tell I created my character a couple years before this announcement. Just posting my feedback to the update, which is exactly the purpose of this thread. I won't be returning. Thank you.
Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg Hand of The King 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:35:05 - [108] - Quote 2-step authetication is ***** annoying. I have a ton of alts and having to go through that on every single one of them and then deaktivate the process is a pain. You should just have made every account deactivated and given people an option to turn it on instead of forcing it upon us. ** this is a bad taste in my mouth.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 640	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:35:34 - [109] - Quote Linus Gorp wrote: Kenrailae wrote: Several of us have more accounts than we'd like to admit, and many different emails associated with them. You can use the same E-Mail with more than one account, then they even tell you on the account management page which other accounts share that mail address.. Comes in handy when you have more accounts than you can possibly remember login names, like me.. Although I also use different passwords for each and as such have put them all into my password database (KeePassX, I abso-*******-lutely recommend it to everyone). I'm aware. I've got most of them onto 1 or 2 accounts, but evidently there was a straggler I forgot to migrate.... so now I'm sending CCP another support request so I can get that account back. Wouldn't be an issue if a suddenly CCP didn't break things.... again. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 6507	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:37:08 - [110] - Quote 1. Please don't annoy paying customers. We don't need to see the omega clone status pane on every login. 2. The clone status pane close button is not obvious. White on yellow has no contrast. Should be black on yellow, and never hidden. 3. All my accounts were lost from the launcher. I had to add all of them back in, AND launch a client for each one, or the account would be forgotten. Also, the last account added didn't require authenticator, though I verified it was enabled.

Winter Archipelago Autumn Industrial Enterprises 792	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:39:45 - [111] - Quote Hisana wrote: This update obviously serves to bring back old players and in new ones. It's flawed when it comes to existing characters as I pointed out. If you aren't as illterate as you seem, you should be able to tell I created my character a couple years before this announcement. Just posting my feedback to the update, which is exactly the purpose of this thread. I won't be returning. Thank you. Your account is free. It doesn't matter that if a person played from 2003 on and their account lapsed yesterday, or if they played for one day back in 2008 and never came back. If the account is free, it's free. You may have been a paying customer before, but as soon as your account lapses, you aren't. You're complaining that a non-paying customer doesn't receive the same benefits as a paying customer. Make do with what you have, roll a new character, or become a paying customer. For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
Sara odell The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:40:00 - [112] - Quote http://prntscr.com/d7lxij Pls they should be in alphabetical order
Jesse Edwin Davis Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:40:39 - [113] - Quote New Character Sheet is awful. New Aura's voice is awful. I tried to "post constructive" and failed. I can find nothing positive in these changes. CCPlease, make an option to switch to old versions of CS and Voice at least. Thanks.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1213	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:42:08 - [114] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, well I won't be. CCP has been clear that this was going to happen since they first announced Clone States. Maybe if they are serious about encouraging returning players (or not, this is after all CCP) they could allow returning players such as Hisana to choose which faction they wish to fly when they first log back in and THEN lock the character to that. My main is Amarr by birth but has worse Amarr skills than a day old Caldari rookie. In the same situation (as Hisana) I would choose either Minmatar or Gallente. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Dethahal Khardula Brooklynn Eve and Co. Survival Instinct 9	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:42:20 - [115] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, well I won't be. CCP has been clear that this was going to happen since they first announced Clone States. it still valid feedback, and I also consider this a bad idea
Voxinian 109	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:43:53 - [116] - Quote Eternal Griever wrote: Hisana wrote: CCP... Why would you lock out ships from other factions for existing characters? I have a Caldari character from 2012 that I was looking foward to play again. It's a drone boat character, which means it's really good at drones and Vexor.. Now you expect me to stick around and fly around in a.. Caracal? No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, will I won't be. Let's get one thing straight, you are complaining about the fact you can fly any ship at all without paying a subscription? Shiiiiit, damn CCP, why do dey do dis... It's simply not logical. There are tons of players that trained for other ships than their own starting race. Great, you have a hangar filled with missile boats and your toon is Armarr, whole hangar with ships you can't fly... not even a tiny T1 frigate. It does not make much sense to me and it negates the purpose of getting old players back in the game.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 6507	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:44:57 - [117] - Quote Benevolant George wrote: Pulse Activated Nexus Invulnerability Core bpo doesnt appeared to be seeded? Did you check an ORE station? How about ORE LP store? shudder
ashahara EVE University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:45:42 - [118] - Quote it sounds like the new Aura voice is saying "whelp drive active"
elitatwo Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance 1465	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:45:52 - [119] - Quote The fitting screen is missing a vital information it used to have - show if a module fits or not. The character screen takes way too many resources when you show your character on it My OCD is acting up. Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them. This is the law
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1939	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:49:05 - [120] - Quote Hisana wrote: No thank you. This might be a nice update for new players, but as a returning player, well I won't be. I was telling it right from the start: Alpha clones only good for chatting with old friends or for really new players. Returning player will see him losing access to all his stuff and will not be able to feel new game and decide whether he wants to return or not. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Stryider Tivianne Equity 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:49:27 - [121] - Quote #notmyaura I know it's not really possible but it would be nice to have the old Aura back. The new one sounds like a poor man's Siri (or worse yet, a poor man's Cortana...). Also, where are the gifts? Frankly they're the only reason I logged in this morning before classes at the University. I was looking forward to getting some fittings going. Also, the Alpha clone accounts indicate that you have "negative" days for PLEX. If you want to PLEX your account it's confusing because it makes it seem like you have to PLEX for all of the time that you haven't been playing the game.
Hisana State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:50:46 - [122] - Quote Winter Archipelago wrote: Hisana wrote: This update obviously serves to bring back old players and in new ones. It's flawed when it comes to existing characters as I pointed out. If you aren't as illterate as you seem, you should be able to tell I created my character a couple years before this announcement. Just posting my feedback to the update, which is exactly the purpose of this thread. I won't be returning. Thank you. Your account is free. It doesn't matter that if a person played from 2003 on and their account lapsed yesterday, or if they played for one day back in 2008 and never came back. If the account is free, it's free. You may have been a paying customer before, but as soon as your account lapses, you aren't. You're complaining that a non-paying customer doesn't receive the same benefits as a paying customer. Make do with what you have, roll a new character, or become a paying customer. I think the point flew past your head. I made the choice in 2012 to be Caldari and now in 2016 I won't be returning to the game because of CCP's poor decision to faction lock ships. I only care about Gallente ships. I only fly Gallente ships. I have only trained Gallente ships. I made a choice in 2012 to be Caldari for looks. That's my feedback.
Henry Plantgenet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 137	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:52:42 - [123] - Quote MY REDEEM QUEUES ARE EMPTY :( no gnosis no sunesis no nothing.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 2008	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:53:11 - [124] - Quote So in keeping with making the game more accessible for new players, you have taken a rather clunky but perfectly functional character window, and instead of making it more streamlined and modern, you have mashed together lots of elements into a form that just gives you a headache rather than the information you want to see...
Dreidon Bloodborn Schneckt Pen Is Out 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:55:54 - [125] - Quote Please rework T3ds damage bonuses....
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 459	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:59:41 - [126] - Quote Removed Quitting Post. Quitting Post should be made in the Out of Pod Sub Forum. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*
Stryider Tivianne Equity 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:59:47 - [127] - Quote Henry Plantgenet wrote: MY REDEEM QUEUES ARE EMPTY :( no gnosis no sunesis no nothing. See my post above. They will apparently be available later this month.
blue dehazon Vega Farscape 31	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:09:57 - [128] - Quote No Email to weryfye E-mail accont in 25 min,this thing just dont work.New skill que-managment a majore set back,weryfication email take to loong to apear in in box.making this new inlogging feature a nigthmare.And plees add rigg calebration info to fitting windowe again.
Gramps Pljugi Missing the point 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:10:16 - [129] - Quote Please allow us to toggle between Aura voice, for us vets, i like the old aura voice, this new one is too.. sharp? crisp? The VA did good work but i like the old calm and cold voice better..
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 2012	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:12:55 - [130] - Quote The skills window is a mess. The text is very small and the order they are listed is wacky as f**k making the categories quite a lot harder than they should be to find. The simple information that was available on the old character sheet at first glance is also gone or in hiding, for example, say im training 'Visibility' on an alt account so that when it reaches 500k SP i can extract it and sell it. Why is there no way to see, the actual number of SP invested into the skill so far? I can see the progress bar, but that doesnt really tell me when i have reached 500k SP. How can you possibly, time and again, rework features with an eye to form over function, and take so long to get it so wrong?

Don Pera Saissore 100	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:14:03 - [131] - Quote http://imgur.com/a/Tmvcj
Mr Duffo The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 214	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:14:38 - [132] - Quote "Why is there no way to see, the actual number of SP invested into the skill so far?" This is making me nuts I TELL YA Skegg¦½ld, Skálm¦½ld, Skildir ro Klofnir! Never forget! #OICXmassacre2014
Diaz Kerensky Pyramid Inc 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:16:13 - [133] - Quote Gorgeous explosions, nice to finally have an in-game fitting tool (although apparently there are some problems with numbers in some cases), for now I'm pretty happy with this update except for one thing : why did you do this to Aura ? Seriously ? As others already stated, please bring the real Aura back or at least allow us to choose.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 640	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:17:31 - [134] - Quote Don Pera Saissore wrote: http://imgur.com/a/Tmvcj The hero we need. +1 The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:22:22 - [135] - Quote whats with all the yellow boxes on everything - if im running omega clones (which i am) why do I NEED TO KNOW what stuff is omega, please change this so it is only visible for the alpha clones, its pretty irritating. Character sheet is just far too busy not sure who signed off on this design, but its absolutely terrible (sorry).
Tamazaki Suddenly Noodles 50	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:23:48 - [136] - Quote Why do I have to click 'Remember this account' and then also the pin icon? What's the point of 'Remember this account' if the launcher forgets it if you don't also click the puin? Why can't the launcher just remember it automatically? If I want to remove an account the X is there to do that.
Suzi Wilson Dot.Inc TRUE VINE 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:24:57 - [137] - Quote Kenrailae wrote: Don Pera Saissore wrote: http://imgur.com/a/Tmvcj The hero we need. +1 Second that, +1
Adrager Amatin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:28:58 - [138] - Quote no words can describe that I would be wiling to type here and risk getting banned how I feel about the new AI voice... probably the best way I can say it is...if there isn't a way to disable the voice only and not the other game sounds I will not play anymore...it is Hideous.
Adrager Amatin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:33:01 - [139] - Quote Tyrindel Vaedrelin wrote: auras voice sounds like some pre teen please return or fix it is horrible..do not like it at all..
Pubicbeard Jovakko The Intrepid Collective 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:36:49 - [140] - Quote Two things i very much dislike: 1. the changes to aura's voice "warp drive active" or "docking in progress" 2. The character sheet , although it looks nice i much MUCH prefer the old character sheet since things weren't put in tabs to access what you want. the skill tab looks nice aswell and you can see what you haven't trained yet with skill books, but either im blind but i dont see a option to have a separate tab to see your skill queue since i much prefer a dedicated window for that. Me and allot of other people would be very grateful if you give us the option to use the old aura voice, i can understand if you dont have the same voice actor and unless there are dialogues that need voice acting apart from the new tutorial mission, i dont see why we dont have this option, i also let some friends (who never played this game) do a comparison on whether they liked the old or the new voice 4 out of 3 picked the old aura voice. other then that i havent seen anything else (yet) i would like to see changed or simply reverted. Good job on the art department i love the new explosions and the animated wrecks, although i think thats where it ends.

Testy McTestyFace2 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:38:39 - [141] - Quote Initial mission bugged (Gallente) approach wrecked titan - approached (0 meters) waiting for aura - nothing
Lmagno EvE Most Wanted Darwinism. 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:38:51 - [142] - Quote Please Return the old AURA Voice, this new one lacks the authority and gravitas of the original, it sounds like she is inside a can. Very stressing, very disturbing.
Manssell OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate Together We Solo 312	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:41:06 - [143] - Quote Don Pera Saissore wrote: http://imgur.com/a/Tmvcj Hire this person!
Brynjard Virgin Plc Evictus. 59	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:47:00 - [144] - Quote Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Yes. The old voice is EVE. It sounds like an AI. and It slow and comfy. The new one does not fit in a scifi game.
Susitna Negative Density 16	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:49:15 - [145] - Quote I do not like the new aura voice. Old one was much better. Please let me use the old one. Thanks.
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 16:57:11 - [146] - Quote Still can't see my portrait in character sheet because I have no button here where everyone does: http://puu.sh/sjbbm/3457145497.jpg
Quetz Alkoatl 11	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:00:09 - [147] - Quote Please please pleeeeease bring back the old Aura voice that we all love. Or at least make it possible to choose. CCP, please, do not take it away! Mac client still messed up.
Brynjard Virgin Plc Evictus. 59	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:00:54 - [148] - Quote The new explosions: Looks really awesome. GJ CCP. There is one issue. You'll identify it when killing a frigate(try kill a rat frigate) The wreck appear a few secconds to fast. Looks kind of strange. Maybe the wreck should appear after the ship has exploded? More natural. (Like it did, back in the 60s when I was flying in space :P )
Kyala Terona Kassa Stellar Dynamics 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:02:43 - [149] - Quote Unable to get lvl 2 mastery on many destroyers and cruisers on Alpha clones. Not sure if intended but i would think you could get at least lvl 2 mastery on all ships an alpha can fly
Lothar Mandrake Min Wei Corporation 11	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:07:58 - [150] - Quote Brynjard wrote: Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Yes. The old voice is EVE. It sounds like an AI. and It slow and comfy. The new one does not fit in a scifi game. I completely agree with the new AI voice sounding like she is on speed or whatever similar drug they sell in New Eden. Sounds like crap now. Turned her voice off until the drugs wear off. It's sad that someone at CCP actually said "that sound good". Never play on update day, I read somewhere. Now I know why. I couldn't dock for almost an hour. Right clicking on the target wouldn't show the drop down list. Scary... Seems to work now but I'll be offline as much as possible for a few days until this stuff gets sorted out. Note from a newbie friend: "This new skill training window is supposed to be better? WTF?". LOL! I'm sure we will get used to it, but I liked the old one better too. It was simple and easy. This new one has too much fluffy graphics and other unnecessary crap in it.

Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 640	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:08:52 - [151] - Quote Also I am REALLY not appreciating being told to log into an account I can't log into to update a support ticket that I can't log into update, because you guys quietly dropped a 'hey we're forcing two factor on all of you' notice 5 days before a major expansion, and then submitting a new one with the required 'I still need assistance' because you guys are wholesale not answering any support tickets about this issue unless they tell you it's still broken, only to have your automated system spit the automated 'hey we're useless and here's our list of excuses so update your ticket if you need help' message dropped AGAIN into my email. I got it. You're useless. Answer support tickets, and don't tell me I have to update them when you break stuff to get help. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Jarvis Nurella Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:09:51 - [152] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: Dearest and most beloved CCP. I praise thee for thy patience and thy tolerance; of us loud an obnoxious playerbase. but in thy grace and position of in-game omnipotence, please give us back the old Aura voice. the new warpdrive-active is kinda jarring for one used to the soothing, near seductive tones of the previous Aura voice. a toggle, pretty please...... I'd have to agree - the new voice is just horrible and actually very annoying.
Jay Bagos Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:11:02 - [153] - Quote Please return the usual skills and those ships we used to, just like the free trial version! pls.. pls..
Wedge Yamamoto Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:11:02 - [154] - Quote What does the yellow box around some items in the inventory mean? I can't figure it out. Also, the pop-up when you rmouse hovers over an item in the inventory screen comes too fast and has too much info. Very distracting when trying to deal efficiently with a large amount of stuff in your item hanger. I liked the previous version better.
Gogela Heh... 3364	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:11:42 - [155] - Quote Keep the new Aura voice. Now that I have it I realize my old ship computers were just drunk for all of those years. The new voice is better. Signatures should be used responsibly...
Phaezen Orti WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:11:47 - [156] - Quote A toggle to show alpha only skills would be nice
Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg Hand of The King 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:15:27 - [157] - Quote Sophie Mcgalien Hoeeg wrote: 2-step authetication is ***** annoying. I have a ton of alts and having to go through that on every single one of them and then deaktivate the process is a pain. You should just have made every account deactivated and given people an option to turn it on instead of forcing it upon us. this is a bad taste in my mouth. this is freaking annoying. add another page and a half to what you see there. never ever do such a thing again and please remove it for future people coming back cause holy **. http://imgur.com/OsAAKxt link to picture
Lothar Mandrake Min Wei Corporation 13	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:18:24 - [158] - Quote Gogela wrote: Keep the new Aura voice. Now that I have it I realize my old ship computers were just drunk for all of those years. The new voice is better. No A.I. in any science fiction series sounded like this new Aura. Dump the new speed talking **** and give us back strong and confident Aura.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 13	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:18:45 - [159] - Quote Going to make this short: the new voice lacks grandeur, it feels out-of-context, it is laconic and unpolished (that "warp drive active" drives me insane for instance). Please, if you can't bring back the original Aura, at least bring a voice actor who has a voice closer to the epicness of EVE, not .... this (no insult intended for the person though, this voice may be very good for other games or instances, but not EVE).
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 979	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:20:48 - [160] - Quote I don't mind verifying my email, but why the F! did you override my 2FA settings? Noooooo, CCP couldn't be bothered to work out these account management bugs months ago...

Sexy-Milf Pay up or Die 10	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:22:49 - [161] - Quote The new voice is unpleasant
Shayla Etherodyne Delta Laroth Industries Voxis Accord 97	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:24:35 - [162] - Quote Another one for "the new AURA voice is fastidious". And for "the skill sheet is way less useful than the old one". Why CCP love messing with those details and making them worse? You really think that a new players will find the new skill sheet easy to read?
Julia Reave The Scope Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:28:06 - [163] - Quote I also much preferred the old Aura voice. I liked it a lot even. The new one sounds ridiculous to me, no offense! Please bring back the old Aura voice at least as an option (better as default).
DanTheManOnline The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:28:24 - [164] - Quote Thanks for all the hard work on this update. I'm loving what you did to my mining operation and especially the Orca. It will be even more effective and make the game more fun for me! I would like to request the old voice back as an option. Please.
Drabbin Mishi Excognative Ignorance Short Bus Syndicate 15	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:34:45 - [165] - Quote It seems that everyone prefers the Auriginal voice. :-)
Mushwroom 9GAG 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:34:50 - [166] - Quote I hope the new voice is only a joke. A bad joke.
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 57	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:35:31 - [167] - Quote I agree on the comments towards that artificial restriction of race-type ships. Even if you see that from a new player's perspective, it's a bad thing. Let's say I invite a friend to Eve, he doesn't know which race to pick, so he picks the one he likes most. He tries a few ships then realizes that those Minmatar ships are fitting his way of playing the game much better, but he cannot train them unless he makes a Minmatar char that's ugly in his eyes. That leaves him two options (beside subscribing): create a character that he considers ugly, or fly ships he doesn't want to fly. In both cases we have an unhappy (potential) customer.
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 89	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:37:00 - [168] - Quote Just noticed this... When you open your character portrait and choose 'view full body'.. opening the character sheet will close this window, and vice versa. I guess the characters and the character sheet are not meant to be together. Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 979	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:38:19 - [169] - Quote So CCP decided to help out the Gnosis speculators by delaying the awards for a month No, no collusion going on peeps. Move along.
Astrador Falcon Agency 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:39:44 - [170] - Quote Keiko Ogawa wrote: Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Yes, please. Or give us the option to toggle the old voice, for those who prefer it. Actually I would already be happy if I could get the old "Warp Drive active" sound back ;) Yes, give as the Chance for the old voice. I get headace from the new one.

Ado Dilanda School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:41:38 - [171] - Quote Is this the right place to ask questions? I have a Caldari character, with a trial account that still has 4 days on it. The dev blog post of 31. august says that the caldari alpha clone has the "Drones" skill up to level 3 only. But in-game it seems I have it allowed up to level 5. My other skill levels that I unlocked in the last 10 days as a trial account but are not part of the alpha skill levels have been seemingly disabled as expected. Is the skill list in that blog post incorrect? Or am I misunderstanding something?
SportBilly GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY 96	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:47:54 - [172] - Quote Nice update so far, but please return or toggle the old voice, it was smooth, this one is curt and sharp, never mind annoying.
Mr Grape Drink No Prisoners Who. 87	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:47:56 - [173] - Quote Im looking at Elite Drone AI on the market on Eve Central. I see about 5000 selling. With the Excavators taking 50 per drone, that means if someone were to buy the entire market as shown, they would only be able to produce 100 drones. Now assuming each Rorq pilot has a set of ore and ice drones, you're looking at 10 drones per Rorq, which means 10 pilots will be able to fully fit up their Rorqs with all the AI on the market. Do you see this as an issue? Is the supply going to be able to meet the demand so that a person isnt going to have to drop 6 bil to have a set of ice and ore excavators? I was all for going out and playing with the rorq in belt, but having to go 9 bil for ship + drones and having to sit sieged in belts doesn't sound very smart.
Voxinian 114	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:57:04 - [174] - Quote If CCP is interested I can hook them up with a voice actress thats even better than the original aura. Though, The current new voice is mostly annoying for some (a lot) players due to the speed she talks with almost no pause between words in some of the sound files.
Malachir Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:58:17 - [175] - Quote I agree on the voice issues. Like the old way of speeding things up makes everything chipmunk. Stop it. Use the original. There is nothing wrong with it. As for the skill screen...this no longer has an ease of information provided. You have to look for everything, and as you have to scroll downwards, it is more of a faff. Nice idea, but incompetently implemented. Also, you end up having to take up half the screen to use it. This is not helpful. Stop redesigning useful things badly to make them not as useful. See map, scanning, overview icons for reference.
d'hofren I blame my mother 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:59:01 - [176] - Quote I have to agree with those who dislike the new Aura voice. The old aura sounded disconnected and at times full of disdain for you. It worked in eve's dystopian, bleak backstory. The new Aura sounds like the receptionist at work. Get creative with the audio filters, maybe a little static?
blackiice Forging Industries Silent Infinity 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:59:33 - [177] - Quote I think the problem with the 2 factor email could be that there is a huge influx of emails going out and some ISPs might start blocking them because there is a huge difference in volume all of a sudden. I work at an ISP and I knew this was coming so I am watching my in coming email from CCP and making sure it is not being dropped. There are also limits set to accept only so much email from a sender as well so for the next few days this is going to be a mess. There are automatic systems for anti-spam that might start flagging these emails if it sees a big jump in volume. I have been testing out all of my accounts and even very old 2006 accounts that I even forgot about and was able to access them again because of the 2 factor. I didn't know what the character names were on them and didn't realize I actually had these still. The 2 factor is to allow people to login and not know what their character name is. i get it, it was forced on for a reason. Having 8 accounts linked to 1 email address seems kind of stupid to have to auth all 8 of them though. Just a heads up on the email since I know this is going to be an issue for sure.
Adrager Amatin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:02:02 - [178] - Quote Pubicbeard Jovakko wrote: Two things i very much dislike: 1. the changes to aura's voice "warp drive active" or "docking in progress" etc, her new voice sounds rather annoying and its getting on my nerves. And no its not because im to used to the old one, i presented the old and new voices to some friends who dont play eve, 3 out 4 chose the old voice because and i quote: it reminds me abit of the voice from the nano suit in crysis but only female. 2. The character sheet , although it looks nice i much MUCH prefer the old character sheet since things weren't put in tabs to access what you want. the skill tab looks nice aswell and you can see what you haven't trained yet with skill books, but either im blind but i dont see a option to have a separate tab to see your skill queue since i much prefer a dedicated window for that. Me and allot of other people would be very grateful if you give us the option to use the old aura voice, i can understand if you dont have the same voice actor and unless there are dialogues that need voice acting apart from the new tutorial mission, i dont see why we dont have this option. other then that i havent seen anything else (yet) i would like to see changed or simply reverted. Good job on the art department i love the new explosions and the animated wrecks, although i think thats where it ends. Yes I failed to comment on the good changes...they did some really great things..but that voice...it is abrasive and way to demanding
Jeven HouseBenyo Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 402	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:06:55 - [179] - Quote This new Aura voice.... I don't blame the voice actress, she can only do/say what's on her script for a recording session. I put blame where blame is due. To whomever handled mixing and post processing, the sound of a computer's voice through a paper towel tube is not good audio for a futuristic space game. To whomever approved the 'Aura in a Paper Towel Tube' audio results, see problem listed above about cardboard tubes and futuristic space games. Matari engineering jokes only fly so far, don't blame this on us! Side note, I can't tell if she's saying 'Warp Drive Active' or Harddrive Active.' The audio miscues go downhill from there. CCPlease, fix the mess that is the new Aura audio. It's a very sad bad thing currently. Will check back to point out any bugs I find, and if the promised Customizable Overview Icons are in place finally. >Jeven's Keyboardist Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 642	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:08:29 - [180] - Quote blackiice wrote: I think the problem with the 2 factor email could be that there is a huge influx of emails going out and some ISPs might start blocking them because there is a huge difference in volume all of a sudden. I work at an ISP and I knew this was coming so I am watching my in coming email from CCP and making sure it is not being dropped. There are also limits set to accept only so much email from a sender as well so for the next few days this is going to be a mess. There are automatic systems for anti-spam that might start flagging these emails if it sees a big jump in volume. I have been testing out all of my accounts and even very old 2006 accounts that I even forgot about and was able to access them again because of the 2 factor. I didn't know what the character names were on them and didn't realize I actually had these still. The 2 factor is to allow people to login and not know what their character name is. i get it, it was forced on for a reason. Having 8 accounts linked to 1 email address seems kind of stupid to have to auth all 8 of them though. Just a heads up on the email since I know this is going to be an issue for sure. The problem is this was done so quietly and as an afterthought. The Devblog they link back to was posted 5 days ago. You're telling me with all the other stuff they broadcast and shined such a huge spotlight, they're just gonna kinda drop in a last minute 'Oh hey get your email sorted because ain't none of it gonna mean ship if you don't cause you won't be able to log in.' I've got most my accts on one or two emails. But, I forgot one. I currently cannot two factor it because I've been through all my emails, but apparently I'm forgetting one because I've not received the 2FA mail for it. I cannot log into the acct to check the email address because I cannot 2FA it. I cannot 2FA it because I cannot receive the mail because I don't remember the email. I can't check the email because I can't log into the account because I can't 2FA it.... and so on. Now I've submitted one 3 tickets today. One as a giant ** you CCP for dropping this 2FA ** like this. The other two to try and sort the issue. The first one I had signed into this account. The second two I did not. I DID list this accts email as the contact since I can't remember the other one. So it sent me the usual 'request received' etc crap to this email. Fine. But then CCP went and lumped those two unassigned tickets into THIS account, even though it wasn't signed in and I have several accts per email. WTFm8? This is supremely shoddy work by CCP. I get what they are TRYING to do. THAT is fine. Dropping something THIS important in as so much of an afterthought after so much else they've spent sooo much time and effort making a huge deal out of and then not having ANYWHERE near the staff to deal with it, so now people are going to be sitting waiting how long on getting their accts unlocked... is irresponsible and unacceptable. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal

Othran Route One 737	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:12:48 - [181] - Quote blackiice wrote: I think the problem with the 2 factor email could be that there is a huge influx of emails going out and some ISPs might start blocking them because there is a huge difference in volume all of a sudden. Yep, absolutely spot on. Dealing with the verify/2FA nonsense (codes getting pumped out every 15 minutes or so) today on 3 accounts triggered the spam filter on 1and1 so I reckon there's a lot of fallout coming CCPs way. Get a clue for gods sakes guys this is so basic its embarrassing Also get this bloody "Omega" nonsense out of my way when I login to a station. I KNOW I'M SUBBED!
McNasty Aideron Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:13:05 - [182] - Quote Gayooseman wrote: Tried creating a new character on my account to get the NPE. got dumped in space with the old opportunities stuff, no NPE Same here. Was hoping for a long and happy life. Because of this, my human says I am to be reprocessed. Please Please save me. Don't let him put me in the meat grinder.
Ronnie Arkwright Judge Advocate General JAG 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:16:07 - [183] - Quote i just wanted to say CCP you are amazing, i love the changes. the only niggle is i wish EC's where on the market instead of having to wait till they are manufactured but i can live with that.
Fud Face Fud Face Inc 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:17:28 - [184] - Quote Preferred the character sheet, skill queue, the way it was. This new one I struggle to see what it is meant to be telling me, or even how to add a skill into the queue. perhaps adding a short video showing folk how to use it on YouTube would be good.
Robot Robot What. 59	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:22:56 - [185] - Quote I'm not usually one to pile on in these "put it back the way it was" threads, but I think it needs to be said loud and clear that the new Aura voice is a huge downgrade from the old one. I'm probably going to end up disabling speech entirely in the audio settings, and that's a shame. I get that you need to be able to record new things for Aura to say and that recreating the old voice perfectly for new content is not viable, but I really really think that you should consider retaining the old voice for those things we hear most often. Once a player has finished with the NPE, Aura only says a few things like "Connecting" and "Warp Drive Active" and "Docking Permission Requested." I think that keeping those voice clips as they were has so much value that it would be worth handwaving it away and saying that it's not actually "Aura" saying those things but some simpler navigation computer. I'm also not a huge fan of the new character sheet, but I suspect that's just a matter of change being scary. I expect that I will get used to it within the week and promptly forget what the old one even looked like. The new voice I will never get used to, nor will I forget the soothing tones of the old "Warp Drive Active." I also hate the gold borders on half of my stuff. I have a subscription paid up for months into the future. Why do I need this distracting and ugly UI reminder about what's for alphas and what's for omegas? This should really be a checkbox option, and it should default to OFF for Omega clones. The Eve UI has so much going on already, it makes zero sense to clutter it up with completely irrelevant information. I'm sure there is a lot of great stuff in the patch, and I look forward to welcoming our new Alpha friends, but the new Aura voice and the gold highlighting are definitely mistakes.
Xairene Red Planet Industries 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:25:05 - [186] - Quote 2-Form Authentication Bug = WORKAROUND I see this sort of bug all the time at work, especially after a new software upgrade. I fixed (both of) my accounts in a single go: 1) Log into ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT. Do the 2FA square dance as normal. 2) Go to ACCOUNT INFO 3) Open up the 2FA Options menu and ENABLE IT. Confirm with code. Refresh ACCOUNT INFO page. 4) Open up the 2FA Optiosn menu and DISABLE IT. Refresh ACCOUNT INFO page. 5) LOG OUT. WAIT 60 SECONDS. LOG IN and confirm the "updated settings" have taken effect. Fly safe! :D
Rhah Nabunaid Grain Fields Inc. 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:26:40 - [187] - Quote Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: This new Aura voice.... I don't blame the voice actress, she can only do/say what's on her script for a recording session. I put blame where blame is due. To whomever handled mixing and post processing, the sound of a computer's voice through a paper towel tube is not good audio for a futuristic space game. To whomever approved the 'Aura in a Paper Towel Tube' audio results, see problem listed above about cardboard tubes and futuristic space games. Matari engineering jokes only fly so far, don't blame this on us! Side note, I can't tell if she's saying 'Warp Drive Active' or Harddrive Active.' The audio miscues go downhill from there. CCPlease, fix the mess that is the new Aura audio. It's a very sad bad thing currently. Will check back to point out any bugs I find, and if the promised Customizable Overview Icons are in place finally. >Jeven's Keyboardist I wholeheartedly agree. I absolutely hate the new Aura voice.. It's too fast, too high pitched, and sounds way too human for an AI. Plus apparently some of the old recordings are still mixed in with the new ones making it all just sound like a mess. When docking a station you first hear a new recording of "Docking permission requested" followed by the old recording of "Docking request accepted." In other words; two different voices with varying intonations, articulations, and speeds. I'm sorry CCP but I just don't get this. There's was absolutely nothing wrong with the old voice of Aura so this change was completely unnecessary. This is just changing stuff for the sake of changing somthing. Also, as others have also mentioned in another thread, changing the voice of Aura touches the soul of EVE and, for me anyway, is a much bigger change than any of the other changes you have implemented in a long long time.
Lucian Thetis Nexneo Alliance 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:31:11 - [188] - Quote Hate the new Aura voice, sounds far too......real, pls make the new one sound more AI like. you must have used a filter for the last one! and the new UI is actually more strenuous to look at it. its glaring, there are too many boxes and the colour schemes you used dont add anything and make things more difficult to navigate. I cant actually see my total SP for a skill very easily, either. The skill names are too dark. and my god why do boxes spawn on everything i mouse over? its infuriating.
Maxim Gorkij True North 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:32:19 - [189] - Quote The new Aura voice... NOOOOOOOOO! :( :( :( :'( CCP! What did you DO!!????
Xairene Red Planet Industries 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:34:26 - [190] - Quote COUNTER FEEDBACK: VOICE ACTING I would like to respond to the general dissatisfaction with Aura's new voice. While the change is certainly jarring, particularly if you haven't spent getting used to it on SiSi, this is something that is not possible to revert. Not right away at least, and certainly not easily. From a creative developmental point of view, her new "personality" is much more in line with the kinds of AI personalities floating around out there in popular media. Change can be a scary thing, folks. But if you give it time, and the chance, you'll discover its not as bad as it feels right now. Fly safe!

Rikali Laru EVE University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:35:33 - [191] - Quote Please tell me the new aura voice is just a terrible joke. I LOVED the old one and the new one is as bad as the old one was awesome. Kindly bring back the old one before the masses riot and Jita prices for torch and pitchfork hit the stratosphere. Old separate skill window was better imho, and why aren't the major groups even in alphabetical order? Old character sheet as a whole was easier to use, easier to find what you're looking for. I don't like that stuff is divided between the character and interactions tabs, and the other singular ones. All of them on the side was faster access. When you want to remove your implants in a hurry for example :P Simulation mode is great to have, even if not as user friendly as some out-of-game tools, but wasn't expecting that anyway. I think/hope FtP and this patch in general will be good for eve online... assuming you bring back the old voice :)
Maxim Gorkij True North 6	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:36:42 - [192] - Quote Auras new "voice": It has nothing to do with change being scary. It has to do with smearing over a Rembrandt with acrylics!
Caim Naberius Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:37:13 - [193] - Quote After short consideration and giving it very little thought, i too believe the old Aura voice was better. Give her back to us please
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 643	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:43:00 - [194] - Quote New Aura is kinda quick spoken, as if she has an improperly calibrated speech timer. Speech for her to us is, after all, a nicety, as it's far more convenient for her to project information and read data. Shouldn't she at least be calibrated to a speed that is pleasant, doesn't give the impression of something about to happen that she has to speak very quickly for so she can say it all before something happens. The voice itself is different. It's just how quickly she speaks. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Milla Goodpussy Federal Navy Academy 465	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:44:56 - [195] - Quote Xairene wrote: 2-Form Authentication Bug = WORKAROUND I see this sort of bug all the time at work, especially after a new software upgrade. I fixed (both of) my accounts in a single go: 1) Log into ACCOUNT MANAGEMENT. Do the 2FA square dance as normal. 2) Go to ACCOUNT INFO 3) Open up the 2FA Options menu and ENABLE IT. Confirm with code. Refresh ACCOUNT INFO page. 4) Open up the 2FA Optiosn menu and DISABLE IT. Refresh ACCOUNT INFO page. 5) LOG OUT. WAIT 60 SECONDS. LOG IN and confirm the "updated settings" have taken effect. Fly safe! :D this isn't working.. when i try to log into my alternate account.. it automatically takes me to the sending email confirmation screen.. so account management is now fully blocked. way to go CCP really.. and thing about it.. i made sure i updated all my email information just last night and still am running into the problem of waiting for an email that has yet to show up. and yes ive confirmed my email address as well.
Eski Minzin Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:48:12 - [196] - Quote Rhah Nabunaid wrote: It's too fast, too high pitched, and sounds way too human for an AI. Plus apparently some of the old recordings are still mixed in with the new ones making it all just sound like a mess. When docking a station you first hear a new recording of "Docking permission requested" followed by the old recording of "Docking request accepted." In other words; two different voices with varying intonations, articulations, and speeds. I'm sorry CCP but I just don't get this. There's was absolutely nothing wrong with the old voice of Aura so this change was completely unnecessary. This is just changing stuff for the sake of changing somthing. Also, as others have also mentioned in another thread, changing the voice of Aura touches the soul of EVE and, for me anyway, is a much bigger change than any of the other changes you have implemented in a long long time. Hear Hear. I just can't get used to it. I'm perfectly okay with all the other changes that have been implemented and feel that I just have to take the time to get used to them. But why, why??, change the voice of aura? Completely unnecessary... Now I just feel annoyed everytime I warp. I wish CCP would just revert to the old voice but since they paid for a new voice actress, and apparantely saw a reason to change it in the first place, I guess we won't see that happen. ...However much that might hurt
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 180	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:48:54 - [197] - Quote Yes, the new voice actor jarred at first, but I'm gradually getting used to it. For me, the pluses are the increase in pace and the distinct lightness of the tone. Aura is meant to impart information; I don't really expect to have an emotional bond with her (this isn't HAL). After a while I expect I won't even notice the voice - as happened with that of the previous actor. The character sheet and skill stuff has completely thrown me, but I'm sure that once I know where what I need is located, I'll be fine. Niggle? Mouse-over info on my looted modules. The estimated price text is just a bit too faint for me. But it's great that you've increased the visibility of the text of the items themselves. Very welcome. That's all for now. Congratulations to the Team/s!
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:58:37 - [198] - Quote Overall I am on board with MOST things... but having said that. OH MY FV$KING GAWD... The New AURA VOICE IS HORRIFIC!!!!!! I seriously thought it was a joke on test... This new voice is more aggravating that nails on a damn chalkboard. BRING BACK the sexier, slower, more aloof Aura we all have come to know and love.... If you wont do that is there somewhere I can just turn this new atrocity off without affecting anything else soundwise???
Lucian Thetis Nexneo Alliance 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 18:59:05 - [199] - Quote Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Yes, the new voice actor jarred at first, but I'm gradually getting used to it. For me, the pluses are the increase in pace and the distinct lightness of the tone. Aura is meant to impart information; I don't really expect to have an emotional bond with her (this isn't HAL). After a while I expect I won't even notice the voice - as happened with that of the previous actor. The character sheet and skill stuff has completely thrown me, but I'm sure that once I know where what I need is located, I'll be fine. Niggle? Mouse-over info on my looted modules. The estimated price text is just a bit too faint for me. But it's great that you've increased the visibility of the text of the items themselves. Very welcome. That's all for now. Congratulations to the Team/s! Well its just that, yeah she's an AI, but she actually now sounds like a British woman in the seat next to me speaking at the side of my head with an annoyingly clipped tone. (I ofcourse have zero issue with the British accent, i like that, but the clipped manner of speaking is awful)
Paladin Genghis Khanid Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:02:58 - [200] - Quote Amarr cannot train missiles even though the Dragoon and Arbitrator have launcher hardpoints. Minmatar can only field a maximum 3 drones even though the Stabber and Rupture can field 5 drones. Furthermore, they (as well as the Caldari) can only train light drone operation to level 1. I would assume that the ships are balanced with their drones in mind. Thus making them suboptimal. Suggestion: Drone and missiles skills should be equal for all factions. Races like the Amarr and Caldari are, for all practical purposes, locked into one form of effective tanking. Alphas who play these factions will be at a disadvantage when it comes to different fleet doctrines. For instance, if people are running shield fleets Amarr alphas are going to be excluded. Suggestion: Limit players to one "alliance". I.e. Amarr/Caldari or Gallente/Minmatar. However... Gallente have no downsides. Not much of a surprise there. As far as I recall CCP has always shown blatant and unapologetic favoritism toward the Gallente. Missile skill deficiency doesn't hurt them. They can both shield or armor tank. They have arguable the best T1 frigate, faction frigate and cruiser and objectively the best rookie ship (hehe) and T1 destroyer. Gallente alphas have a clear advantage over non-Gallente. Suggestion: I would say "see above suggestion", but the fact remains that the Gallente are superior to the other factions given the alpha limitations. Even the Minmatar have some advantages in their tank flexibility. Any alpha with access to Gallente ships will have an advantage as Gallente are better in the T1 frigate to cruiser range. So I'm going further: No faction locking at all. People are probably going to have to make 4 accounts (they are free after all). That's being the case, why even bother with the 1 faction limit on ships? If they want to disable pirate faction ships, then just block those specific ships from alphas. 4. Physical appearance dictating you options. If I want to be African I can only fly republic ships as an alpha. Meanwhile, every other race is represented in every faction. Suggestion: Race should no longer force you into a faction. Even in the lore their are minmatar living in the Federation, Empire and State and the same for other races. Isn't it kind of unfair not to warn new players that Gallente alphas are the Alpha Master Race? Save them some headache later on :)

Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:03:45 - [201] - Quote Eski Minzin wrote: Rhah Nabunaid wrote: It's too fast, too high pitched, and sounds way too human for an AI. Plus apparently some of the old recordings are still mixed in with the new ones making it all just sound like a mess. When docking a station you first hear a new recording of "Docking permission requested" followed by the old recording of "Docking request accepted." In other words; two different voices with varying intonations, articulations, and speeds. I'm sorry CCP but I just don't get this. There's was absolutely nothing wrong with the old voice of Aura so this change was completely unnecessary. This is just changing stuff for the sake of changing somthing. Also, as others have also mentioned in another thread, changing the voice of Aura touches the soul of EVE and, for me anyway, is a much bigger change than any of the other changes you have implemented in a long long time. Hear Hear. I just can't get used to it. I'm perfectly okay with all the other changes that have been implemented and feel that I just have to take the time to get used to them. But why, why??, change the voice of aura? Completely unnecessary... Now I just feel annoyed everytime I warp. I wish CCP would just revert to the old voice but since they paid for a new voice actress, and apparantely saw a reason to change it in the first place, I guess we won't see that happen. ...However much that might hurt Agreed... To me its kind of like changing out the lead singer of your favorite band with Steve Urlkeafter gender re-assignment surgery... It's freaking horrible!!!!!!!
MajkStone 30plus Fidelas Constans 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:11:53 - [202] - Quote I agree with the above. I would much rather keel the old Aura voice for all the existing stuff like Warp Drive Active, Docking Request Accepted, etc. Unless I am doing the NPE, I don't care about any of the new voice stuff. Please give us the option to choose. kthx.
Tom Schlong The Legion of Spoon 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:12:34 - [203] - Quote Aura's voice was alluring, soothing blending in well with the calm beauty of the universe and EVE's wonderful music. The new Character Sheet is not as clear, concise and easy to navigate as the old one. The new golden outline around ships that only omega states can use may be helpful for alpha clones, I find it distracting. Please add an option "Try the new voice" and "Try the new character sheet". Thanks.
MajkStone 30plus Fidelas Constans 6	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:17:20 - [204] - Quote Tom Schlong wrote: Aura's voice was alluring, soothing blending in well with the calm beauty of the universe and EVE's wonderful music. The new Character Sheet is not as clear, concise and easy to navigate as the old one. The new golden outline around ships that only omega states can use may be helpful for alpha clones, I find it distracting. Please add an option "Try the new voice" and "Try the new character sheet". Thanks. Also this. Explosions are wicked cool though :D Also the auto pause queue when jump cloning is amazing.
Uulquiorra Arenita Undecimus 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:26:25 - [205] - Quote cramming everything in vertical is still cancer. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6682349#post6682349 https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/57b54u/dev_blog_skill_level_complete_a_new_character/d8quxbp/
Awkward Pi Duolus Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 183	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:32:25 - [206] - Quote What's with the annoying golden borders? If you need alphas to not be able to use a module, how about just grey it out for them.... This golden border is an eyesore. Please remove.
Sasha Nemtsov Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 180	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:33:44 - [207] - Quote Lucian Thetis wrote: Sasha Nemtsov wrote: Yes, the new voice actor jarred at first, but I'm gradually getting used to it. For me, the pluses are the increase in pace and the distinct lightness of the tone. Aura is meant to impart information; I don't really expect to have an emotional bond with her (this isn't HAL). After a while I expect I won't even notice the voice - as happened with that of the previous actor. The character sheet and skill stuff has completely thrown me, but I'm sure that once I know where what I need is located, I'll be fine. Niggle? Mouse-over info on my looted modules. The estimated price text is just a bit too faint for me. But it's great that you've increased the visibility of the text of the items themselves. Very welcome. That's all for now. Congratulations to the Team/s! Well its just that, yeah she's an AI, but she actually now sounds like a British woman in the seat next to me speaking at the side of my head with an annoyingly clipped tone. (I ofcourse have zero issue with the British accent, i like that, but the clipped manner of speaking is awful) This is an issue with direction as much as with the actor. Most professional voice actors are trained to have an instrument which is supple enough to suit a variety of demands made by modern-day producers. But if the person directing the performance isn't sure exactly what he/she wants, and is the sort of director who'll 'know it when I hear it' - then problems can arise. I understand perfectly the points being made about this, but without seeing the spec for the job it's impossible to point the finger with confidence. You also mention the audio quality and placement. There, I think, you do have a point, but that could be sorted relatively simply, and I trust the folks who look after that area will take note. Pity the poor voice actor, asked to voice an AI but not sound like something out of one of Rhiload's excellent presentations!
Eski Minzin Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:37:06 - [208] - Quote MajkStone wrote: Please give us the option to choose. kthx. Yes, please CCP, give us the option to choose between both voices. Just have the new one as default so that new players won't know better, but at least give old players the option to keep using the old voice. That would really be fantastic.
McNasty Aideron Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:37:47 - [209] - Quote Testy McTestyFace2 wrote: Initial mission bugged (Gallente) approach wrecked titan - approached (0 meters) waiting for aura - nothing How did you "approach"? There are three ways to do that -- right click and select approach, hold left click and select approach from the radial menu, lift click on the debris and select approach from the menu upper right. Try the two you didn't use -- when testing the NPE on SISI I found that you frequently needed to use the EXACT method Aura failed to tell you she wanted this time.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 18	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:38:42 - [210] - Quote Rhah Nabunaid wrote: [quote=Jeven HouseBenyo] I'm sorry CCP but I just don't get this. There's was absolutely nothing wrong with the old voice of Aura so this change was completely unnecessary. This is just changing stuff for the sake of changing somthing. Also, as others have also mentioned in another thread, changing the voice of Aura touches the soul of EVE and, for me anyway, is a much bigger change than any of the other changes you have implemented in a long long time. Best comment regarding Aura that I've read. Aura is indeed part of Eve's soul, for me too at least.

Aelavaine University of Caille Gallente Federation 103	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:42:34 - [211] - Quote The station atmosphere is disappointingly still not ready for capsuleer consumption. Also ditto regarding Auras new voice, does not fit in this game. But on the other hand, you added a lot of new features you can now fix and improve again in the next updates! It will be interesting to see how many new players you can reach with this update. - Good luck with that! You want more than spinning ships? Support Avatar Gameplay!
Venus Zewana Sub Tech Cultura 9	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:46:43 - [212] - Quote THE NEW AURA VOICE IS SO UGLY !! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR AURA CCP ?? ITS A TEENAGER NOW AND NOT A SEXY LADY LIKE ME ANYMORE. SHAME ON YOU! WHY YOU DON`T ASK YOUR PLAYERS FIRST ? BRING BACK THE OLD VOICE!!!!!!!!!! WE HATE THE NEW ONE, ALL ! LOOK AT ALL THE POSTS !
Voxinian 118	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:50:36 - [213] - Quote Check this voice out CCP. She does it for free too.... https://freesound.org/people/Corsica_S/sounds/107554/
Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:52:55 - [214] - Quote Venus Zewana wrote: THE NEW AURA VOICE IS SO UGLY !! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR AURA CCP ?? ITS A TEENAGER NOW AND NOT A SEXY LADY LIKE ME ANYMORE. SHAME ON YOU! WHY YOU DON`T ASK YOUR PLAYERS FIRST ? BRING BACK THE OLD VOICE!!!!!!!!!! WE HATE THE NEW ONE, ALL ! LOOK AT ALL THE POSTS ! We did tell them and they pretty much ignored us... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332&find=unread
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 18	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:54:14 - [215] - Quote https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/aura ...sigh .....
Xan Pendragon Transcendere 6	Posted - 2016.11.15 19:58:23 - [216] - Quote No option to save a fit in the fitting window - or am I missing something?
SportBilly GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY 101	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:03:18 - [217] - Quote Nope the voice still is annoying..... but so is the skill queue, a separate box works, this reminds me of when we couldn't open 2 containers /box's years ago. And please change the orange borders to most things, swap it to the omega clones if you have to keep it. other than that good update.
Keiko Ogawa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:03:28 - [218] - Quote Well, I'm not necessarily saying the new voice is bad, but it's just not what everybody has become accustomed to over the years of playing the game. The new voice by itself is probably fine, the voice actress did her job well and due to the addition of the NPE, they had to record new lines. But besides that, there was no reason to re-record the original lines everybody loves. We've all been hearing "Docking request accepted" and other samples for how many times? And so that voice has become an integral part of the EVE experience for many players without noticing. I'm pretty sure nobody would've complained if Aura used the new voice in the NPE and we retained the original voice in the regular game, at least for the sound samples we're hearing dozens of times per day. And if there were complaints, the number would surely be much much lower than this. Again, I'm not saying the new voice actress did a bad job, it's just that most people are happier with the old voice. Keep the new voice as default, so new players don't have to deal with a sudden change of voice actors (I hate that) but please, give us the option to use the old voice. I don't mind having two different voices for Aura, I just want to hear the good old soothing "Warp Drive active" again and I'll be happy. Overall Ascension is great, maybe the Character/Skill/Training UI could use some work and the constant reminders of Omega content is a bit jarring, but I'll get used to it. The new voice samples...not so much. It shouldn't be too much work and it would make a LOT of players very happy, judging by the responses in this thread. I'm sure there are more important things for the devs right now, but I'd love to hear a response that they'll take care of it once the launch-storm has settled a bit. Thanks :)
Mai Hantaka Dangerous Dutch Carebears Apocalypse Now. 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:09:36 - [219] - Quote Obviously the new Aura voice is in preparation for EVE-voice-packs for only 1 plex. ISK is on standby to make a down payment on the limited edition Ahnold voice pack. EVE Online: Ascension - if you like your bio you can keep your bio
Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:12:10 - [220] - Quote Mai Hantaka wrote: Obviously the new Aura voice is in preparation for EVE-voice-packs for only 1 plex. ISK is on standby to make a down payment on the limited edition Ahnold voice pack. Awesome idea! I'd pay a PLEX right now to get the old Aura back thats for sure!

RenReke Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:12:12 - [221] - Quote In the top left corner it shows fps in yellowish-gold digits for me. Never seen it before. It's not the fps monitor (CTRL F) and I didn't find any info on it, so far. Could someone please tell me how to remove that?
Ami Sentokia The Cruciform Keep Calm and Parley 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:15:15 - [222] - Quote New Aura is **. New Skill interface is **. Wtf have you thrown out everthing you've learned about style and UIX?
Donna Stride Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 6	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:17:10 - [223] - Quote CCP please do something to allow us to bring back the old Aura voice. The old Aura voice is very immersive, this new voice is grating.
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 10	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:21:04 - [224] - Quote Kinizsi wrote: No matter if you disabled it on the account page, it still requires the Two Factor Authentication everytime you log in This
Genii Cucullati Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:21:24 - [225] - Quote Change is good for the soul. Really enjoying the fitting simulation, with one issue: I can't name the fit when I'm saving it. That's adding a lot of needless and annoying organizational work.
Chillya Sanctuary of Shadows Triumvirate. 21	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:26:25 - [226] - Quote I'll try once again: I really do not see the need for the golden frame in the inventory for Omega-state items when a character is already in Omega state. Every visual marking should represent something. What does the golden border indicate to me when I am already in Omega state? That I will lose the use of this item? That information is useless. I hope I am not the only one who thinks that in omega state the golden border around items in your inventory should not be present.
Ridjobradi 72.CO 8	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:28:49 - [227] - Quote Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!!
Mr Grape Drink No Prisoners Who. 87	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:34:13 - [228] - Quote Ridjobradi wrote: Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!! C ya. Gimme your stuff
Sir BloodArgon Aulmais Maximus Corp The Volition Cult 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:34:32 - [229] - Quote Not sure if intentional or not but, mining drone IIs do not require or benefit from the mining drone spec skill? I can see it being to keep yield in check but every other drone follows those rules. (the faction counterparts do get the bonus, so, not sure)
Testy McTestyFace2 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:36:40 - [230] - Quote Danetta Valens wrote: Still can't see my portrait in character sheet because I have no button here where everyone does: http://puu.sh/sjbbm/3457145497.jpg Mine is the same

Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:38:41 - [231] - Quote Sir BloodArgon Aulmais wrote: Not sure if intentional or not but, mining drone IIs do not require or benefit from the mining drone spec skill? I can see it being to keep yield in check but every other drone follows those rules. (the faction counterparts do get the bonus, so, not sure) They are adding a new skill at a later date for the T2 drones
RankOutsider Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 30	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:46:43 - [232] - Quote 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed!
Mr Grape Drink No Prisoners Who. 88	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:49:16 - [233] - Quote RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! 5 years ago there werent so many of us one Reddit
Flashmala Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 54	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:55:42 - [234] - Quote Donna Stride wrote: CCP please do something to allow us to bring back the old Aura voice. The old Aura voice is very immersive, this new voice is grating. Yes, pleeeeeeease bring her back... I loved her so... more than spinning! Age does not diminish the extreme disappointment of having a scoop of ice cream fall from the cone.
Flashmala Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 54	Posted - 2016.11.15 20:56:39 - [235] - Quote I also don't see any free stuffs... where are the free stuffs? Age does not diminish the extreme disappointment of having a scoop of ice cream fall from the cone.
Danetta Valens Phayder Research NANOBLACK 10	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:04:25 - [236] - Quote Flashmala wrote: I also don't see any free stuffs... where are the free stuffs? They forgot it. Aswell as BPO's for new Command Processors.
Francis Podkill Podkill Consolidated 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:06:04 - [237] - Quote Current Character Sheet does not allow you to view how much SP you have in a current skill or how much it requires to the next level. This makes it impossible to guess how many skill injectors you need.
Cyen Starthorne State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:11:10 - [238] - Quote Please change the new character sheet to let you see how many SP exactly skills you train require or let people use the old character sheet. Really don't like the new one at all.
Flashmala Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 54	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:11:13 - [239] - Quote Danetta Valens wrote: Flashmala wrote: I also don't see any free stuffs... where are the free stuffs? They forgot it. Aswell as BPO's for new Command Processors. I think it's the new "pre-implementation nerf". Age does not diminish the extreme disappointment of having a scoop of ice cream fall from the cone.
Genii Cucullati Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 14	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:21:00 - [240] - Quote Ridjobradi wrote: Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!! They were unable to get the original voice actress for Aura. Therefore they had to find a new one. **** happens when you go into production. Give them a break.

Joia Crenca Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 362	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:29:01 - [241] - Quote Genii Cucullati wrote: Ridjobradi wrote: Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!! They were unable to get the original voice actress for Aura. Therefore they had to find a new one. **** happens when you go into production. Give them a break. Really? Must have been in one of the interviews. Anyway, I'm mostly really happy with Ascension. I also would like an option to use the older voice whenever possible, as it was uniquely "EVE" to me. The new one isn't bad and I can get used to it, but getting used to losing uniqueness isn't always good. Maybe we could get a third option, having Chribba do all the voicing.
Hildebrandt Koeppl Hybrid Flare Project Immersion 8	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:30:39 - [242] - Quote While I appreciate the work to reduce account theft I must say this sucks. I have verified the email address I use for all my numerous accounts a few days ago in preparation for ascension, wasting a lot of time in the process because the token would not work for one account if another one was still logged in on the webpage (claiming it had already expired - within less than a minute). Today I am greeted by a message that I need to verify my mail address on every account again. WTF? At least the Launcher triggers the mail on its own, but having to restart that wonderfull Piece Of Software every time I verify an accounts email does not make me more exited for it at all. I know from my own job that writing stable and secure software is not always easy and that users generally find ways to break things that are hilarious on their own. Nevertheless I am quite pissed regarding the double waste of time I have with my accountmanagement because of this.
Dibz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 139	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:32:33 - [243] - Quote RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! I thought the same. Also the number of people logged in doesn't seem much different than normal, I would have thought there'd be more.
Amarisen Gream Divine Demise 300	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:32:44 - [244] - Quote So question? I know CCP decided to make it so you couldn't log multiple Alphas at once. And it went back and forth if they would block omegas while alpha was running. My corp mates are telling me they are unstable to log an alpha account with their omega and that if they are on the alpha they can't start up the omega account. Now this morning, using the launcher I was able to use both of my omega accounts and surprisingly it let me log on to a alpha state account as well. I did this for three hours. Alpha state accounts should not block Omega state accounts from launching, just additional alphas. I don't know what the duck is going on in Iceland, but get your stuff together please. Besides that, the patch has been awesome. P.S. When I get home, if my launcher lets me run my alpha with my omegas, and it isn't suppose to, that bugs on you CCP. I just hope you let us use a single Alpha with our omegas at the sametime. TheGream "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1 DIDE- is open to new members
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1221	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:34:41 - [245] - Quote ISD Max Trix wrote: Removed Quitting Post. Quitting Post should be made in the Out of Pod Sub Forum. Hey mister Interstallar Super Douche what was his "I Quit" post in relation to? There may be more prepared to quit over the same issue, why should we not be able to see the context at least. Simply removing complete posts like that makes one think the poster may have had a good point (do you and CCP have something to hide) - Try a little creative editing and put your name on it - Don't just remove complete posts, try removing just the parts you deem inappropriate. I know this was a waste of time, so many ISD's believe they are a law unto themselves and answer to know one (from experience). They really should vet these "volunteers" more thoroughly. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Voxinian 119	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:37:41 - [246] - Quote Dibz wrote: RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! I thought the same. Also the number of people logged in doesn't seem much different than normal, I would have thought there'd be more. Yea I find that weird too. Specially with Steam you would expect like 10k more people. I advertized it to my friends on steam, but no dice so far. CCP needs to add an anouncement on the storefront of Steam.. like they do with other updated games.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1222	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:49:05 - [247] - Quote Dibz wrote: RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! I thought the same. Also the number of people logged in doesn't seem much different than normal, I would have thought there'd be more. I've noticed since CCP changed the release schedule some time ago that after major releases, numbers are generally down for a few days. It seems many don't login for a few days in the hope CCP will have cleared any major bugs and so can avoid the randoms shutdowns while Devs attempt to fix things that shouldn't happen. RankOutsider - Go look at r/eve, it is firing with feedback. Seems a third party forum is still more popular and gets paid more attention from Devs than Eve's own forums. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Sire Sparrow Viziam Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:55:00 - [248] - Quote I love it all except; seeing how many skill points I have in a partiality trained sillis in a 50 skill queue is only possible in EvEMon?? I like the older voice better
Kaze Mester FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 21:58:01 - [249] - Quote Aura muted. I made my first caracter because of "her". RIP
Pendra Tahyan Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:02:15 - [250] - Quote I'm pretty sure that there will be more logins in a few days when CCP have fixed some of the more serious issues. Not being able to log into Support due to "conflicting emails" (never happened before) or having 100.000 SP "wasted" into a partially trained skill I did not put in my training que is pretty minor in the grand scale oof things but I don-¦t think I will be getting back in game until it have been sorted. Also I do agree on AURA:s new voice but it appears to be set in stone so I guess we will have to get used to it.

Tommallionus COMBAT PATROL 6	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:03:44 - [251] - Quote I'm tired of changes in this game. Couple corp mate already decided to quit game after another mess. For me the worst part is command / link changes (log in, bio, and all the others are annoying but can live with them... I've trained two accounts to max boosts to be flexible and easily run 2 off grids, or two on-grids commands with 12 or 6 links in the same time... now I can eventually have 4 linlks on two commands simultaneously... and even better - they have only 60 km range. WTF?! So are heavy armor bloob feets only thing we gonna see for another while ? All the ships hugging a command to make sure won't loose precious boosts ? 21 km range on Bifrost?! Should I start fitting it armor with 1mn AB or what ? Am I not allow to run it 4 k m/s anymore? Is that the moment when I should finally quit this game for good ? ;] ...at least leave the links alone the way they were before and just do on grid boosts working... not 21km range, ON GRID. and Thanks for all the other lovely changes! In game EFT is bad. No surprise that Gripen gave up updating his with all changes you keep throwing on us ;] :/
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 979	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:05:21 - [252] - Quote The new Aura, definitely one casting couch session that went wrong.
AceOfSpace Pineapple Blunder 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:08:06 - [253] - Quote I'm trying really hard to adjust to the new character sheet but the Skills page is completely baffling to me. I don't understand what I'm looking at, it makes no sense, it's stressing me out, I don't know what's going on, I think I need to lie down.
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 983	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:09:02 - [254] - Quote RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! Only the vet Omega's would know and there's only so many of us left.
Athenea Thiesant Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:20:39 - [255] - Quote Donna Stride wrote: CCP please do something to allow us to bring back the old Aura voice. The old Aura voice is very immersive, this new voice is grating. I-¦ve been playing for half an hour and the new voice is getting me of the nerves. Looks like a talkalot parrot. Please, bring back the old one.
Yolinde Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:26:12 - [256] - Quote RIP Aura. I cannot express in words how disappointed I am in CCP for replacing Aura. I identify Aura with EVE the same way that people identify SHODAN with System Shock. Sad. Very sad that CCP went this route. Also, I can't remove skills I had queued when I was subbed. They are stuck in my queue so I can't train anything I'm allowed to train as just an Alpha Clone. So I have to resub to remove the Omega-only skills from my queue? 0.o
Emiko P'eng 144	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:28:43 - [257] - Quote Humm! I assume because we have gone to free to play you seemed to have downgraded the main computers vocaliser. It has gone from a high fidelity sound system to a cheap 1960's tinny transistor radio! I will pay extra to have Aura's system restored to its previous functionally!
Nefariam Primicerius Nefariam Cementarii 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:30:44 - [258] - Quote What the F#-úK does CCP not care about making ANYTHING remotely usable by the colour blind. We used to have red crosses and Green ticks on the skill queues. Now we have a tiny blue dot and a larger blue dot. Give us back a usable Character screen or at least fix this huge finger in the face of those without perfect 20/20 vision
Maxim Gorkij True North 16	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:34:13 - [259] - Quote Dibz wrote: RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! I thought the same. Also the number of people logged in doesn't seem much different than normal, I would have thought there'd be more. I think after the first Alpha's have talked to their friends, flown around in their velators, ibises etc for a few days, got their first frigates and ventures going, you will see the real spike... and another one a month or so after that when the awesomeness hits the hooked ones :)
Erik Kalkoken VOLTAGE REGULATORS No Handlebars. 32	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:36:45 - [260] - Quote Ok, I think I can get used to the new Aura voice (even though its pretty weird) and I like many of the new effects and changes. But there is one thing that I find really annoying. Please CCP remove the orange borders around ships and modules for Omega clones. The amount of information an Eve Client is providing is already huge and as an Omega I really do not need to know if a ship or module can only be used by Omegas. This is just distracting. Sure, you should show to Alpha clones when an item can not be used. But as Omega I do not need that info. Please remove it or give us an option in the menu to turn it off. Cheers! Alliance Facebok page - Check out my blog - Find me on zKillboard

Klaw Athonille Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:38:28 - [261] - Quote so at this point there is no doubt that they will bring back the old Aura voice, my question is when...
Fixy BrokeIT Unusual Disturbance 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:47:38 - [262] - Quote Please can we have the old Aura Voice back ? Or if not - Buzz Lightyear ..................... "To Infinity and beyond" !!! The new one sounds like my ship computer is on Helium........ Regards.
Hildebrandt Koeppl Hybrid Flare Project Immersion 9	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:55:05 - [263] - Quote I agree, the new voice annoys the hell out of me. exactly the kind of voice you already hate from call center operators trying to sell you socks for your teddybear or poll your opinion regarding the necessity of banning cows from farting under water in public - or something like that.
Paul Brinkhoff Brave Operations - Lollipop Division V. O. I. D. 12	Posted - 2016.11.15 22:55:21 - [264] - Quote Besides the obvious downgrade to the new aura, I dont like all the omega outlining. I dont see the point of reminding omega players constantly that they can use certain items. It is unessecary and distracting. Also the new character sheet is just a mess. The old one was clear, simple and easy to work with, the new one is way to convoluted and bloated.
Naga Zin Viziam Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:01:01 - [265] - Quote One more vote for changing back the Aura's voice. It doesn't sound like Eve at all! It's very annoying indeed. For me personally the line - Warp drive active was so immersive, it feels so much Eve to me. Hope you find a way to change it back, at least for commands. I don't care about the tutorial narrative.
L0NEWARRIOR DriveBy DropBunny 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:03:12 - [266] - Quote What the hell are you thinking with that Voice? The old voice was classy the new one is not. It sounds ridiculous....
Cpt Patrick Archer Quam Singulari Triumvirate. 66	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:03:38 - [267] - Quote Omega state plz remove yellow borders. Tnx.
Erik Kalkoken VOLTAGE REGULATORS No Handlebars. 33	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:03:54 - [268] - Quote Maxim Gorkij wrote: Dibz wrote: RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! I thought the same. Also the number of people logged in doesn't seem much different than normal, I would have thought there'd be more. I think after the first Alpha's have talked to their friends, flown around in their Velators, Ibises etc for a few days or even a week or two, + got their first frigates and ventures going, you will see the real spike... and another one a month or so after that when the awesomeness hits the hooked ones and they share their excitement with friends again :) I think you are looking at the wrong stats. New born players per hour is up a factor of 10 today !! http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Alliance Facebok page - Check out my blog - Find me on zKillboard
Tyrindel Vaedrelin Ill-Fated 22	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:06:45 - [269] - Quote over all i liked the release but i still cant get over aura , i honestly hate that part, new explosions while killing rats with 2 people look like the 4th of july. The char sheet is ugly but kinda like the skill Que set up. but u cant touch it while in space covers to much real estate on a screen. a bit pissed off over the loss of bio and not knowing it was going to happen or i would of copied it out to re enter , there goes 8 years worth of stupid quotes. ghost fittings seem to be a interesting but should of been there a long time ago. didnt know jackdaws was losing a mid to gain a low . cancer sivpuls gone now welcome cancer jack's. over all interesting patch. hope code camps the alphas to hell and back id be willing to build ships for the omega vs alpha war keep those no bodies pinned down ahahaha Oh and please for the love of all that is bob RETURN OLD AURA or change this one English one sounds like a pre pube teen to nervous to act correctly
Agfro Er Secret Wormhole Authority Group 16	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:06:50 - [270] - Quote Thank you for all the hard work CCP and friends o7 Still reading through this forum and getting used to the patch. Initial impressions so far is decent to good. The feel of things seems a bit off. It feels like things went from being coded in precise sleek C/C++ and then everything was ported to some visual basic mess. I too must exclaim that the new voice is a let down. I've spent the last couple hours trying to restore the old voice and reading through rants instead of flying around space. I've got a long journey back home today and my heart is saddened I will not be able to hear that ever satisfying "Warp Drive Active" message. If it's not possible to bring back the voice message we love, perhaps consider allowing certain modifications to be made by the player community to the client so players can setup all sorts of custom sound and other fun addons.

Andy Baer Panzer Recycling Station 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:07:15 - [271] - Quote Orca : WIN Aura Voice : EPIC FAIL/JOKE. Horrible Character Sheet : "Fixed" something that was not broken in the first place. Big fail. Forcing 2factor Authentication : Makes me want to not go Omega again.
Orlacc 952	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:07:18 - [272] - Quote Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Please. Feel like someone is trying to sell me Apple products. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Royaldo Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. The-Culture 133	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:11:54 - [273] - Quote Fantastic job guys! Best expansion ever!
Fixy BrokeIT Unusual Disturbance 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:12:11 - [274] - Quote hehehe, Aura's Voice............ Options...... Now, think of this............. I'd pay to have an optional computer in the New Eden Store......... Far more than I would pay for ship skins......... In the Voice of Homer Simpson when arriving at the stargate .......... "Did he say Jump? DOH !" {Insert voiceover samples below} OMG, there's so many things you could do with Aura's voice that could be an optional add-in in exchange for ingame currency.
Andy Baer Panzer Recycling Station 3	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:19:49 - [275] - Quote Keiko Ogawa wrote: Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Yes, please. Or give us the option to toggle the old voice, for those who prefer it. Actually I would already be happy if I could get the old "Warp Drive active" sound back ;) "KENNEKTING" "DOCKINPERMISCHINREQUeeeeested"
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 1247	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:21:15 - [276] - Quote Ok. So just short feedback from a short evening. Logging in is a major hassle with e-mail verification (no idea what for, had it ver+¡fied just yesterday) and verification codes. The fact I don't have to do this often if I stay where I am is not very reassuring. I change location every now and then. I'm not looking forward to this experience on a regular basis. Also, if I verifiy the mail address on one account, this really should be sufficient for all other accounts attached to this e-mail. Second thing I happened to get in touch with is the new character info thing. Not sure what it is supposed to be, but it is not a usable ui on a 13" monitor. The old one worked just fine until yesterday. The new one... I have no idea what to do with it. After looking at it for a couple of minutes I just decided to leave it for today, log back in tomorrow or the next day, whatever, and get me a drink. I was unable to decide so far, what to make of these two new features. I did decide though, that it is not design. Design is something different from what we got here. Well, maybe I'll find out in the next couple of days. Remove standings and insurance.
Ridjobradi 72.CO 10	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:22:40 - [277] - Quote UGLY voice irritating.. bring back old Aura voice... don't be DUMB as DUMB was Blizzard and many more .. listen hearts of your players.. this is disgrace !
Corporeal Universalis The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:22:49 - [278] - Quote Dear CCP, The new aura voice is extremely annoying. If you don't want to revert to the old aura voice, there should at least be an option to "Use old Aura voice". Although, if the old one is not selected by default, as time goes by, more and more new players will keep the new one out of ignorance. This may some day lead to the removal of the old voice, bringing back today's issue, with just fewer reactions. To me, the absence of the old Aura voice is a valid reason to quit playing EVE. My suggestion is, keep the new aura on the tutorial (and everything not covered) and the old one wherever it was. Sincerely, Corporeal Universalis
Kaze Mester FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 8	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:24:46 - [279] - Quote The new caracter sheet is alright, i can get used to it. The probe scanner map is still a mess, can't really see the small red dots (sometimes they even disappear), BUT!!! the carrier's fighter control and status UI is crap. 1% damaged fighter shows the exact same red bar as a 99% damaged one is wtf? Instead of changing Aura's voice to a pithced CCP Seagull's voice you could have fixed this UI.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1224	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:26:57 - [280] - Quote Simulation mode. Not sure if it is broken or just not working when working with boosting ships. Mouse over burst modules, shows range bonus but no other attributes. Clicking show info shows standard (no affects applied) attributes. Funnily enough, if you exit the new simulation mode that allows you to see all the attributes for burst modules. Right now the ONLY way to see what attributes your boosts have is to actually fit the ship, undock, join a fleet and do it in space - Simulation mode is pretty much useless at that point. Or just fit your ship, exit simulation mode and show info. Swapping out from T2 invuls to B type's - Has no effect in simulation mode, resists remain the same. NB; Overheat B types, turn off overheat and the correct resist profile then shows.. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Ridjobradi 72.CO 10	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:29:45 - [281] - Quote Mr Grape Drink wrote: Ridjobradi wrote: Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!! C ya. Gimme your stuff Ull get CARBON and.......... hehehe
Ramirez Heffe Relavance Limited 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:42:24 - [282] - Quote Hello, The new explosions look very cool, however... The new character sheet and training queue windows are large obtrusive and very difficult to read, I can't see all of my skills on one screen at the same time, please revert this. Having only the carbon UI is making my eyes hurt, please give all of the other colour options back. Cheers.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:42:45 - [283] - Quote "Dockingpermissionrequesteddockinpermissionaccepted"
Testy McTestyFace2 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:44:24 - [284] - Quote Klaw Athonille wrote: so at this point there is no doubt that they will bring back the old Aura voice, my question is when... What? And admit they were wrong? Are you familiar with CCP in any way? I hate it, but we all know it's not going anywhere. Neither is the new character sheet.
Eva Yang Rabid Dogz Mining The Bastion 2	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:44:25 - [285] - Quote For the most part I have to like this patch, with the exception of a few technical bugs that appeared, but, that is to be expected with any new release. I would just like to voice my opinion on a new feature, that I wish I have the option to opt out of, the biggest one is, the new character sheet, I absolutely hate it personally, its aesthetically pleasing, but, no where near as functional as the old one, especially for anyone who has tons of skills and a very large skill que that gets managed 50 times a day per 12 accounts like mine do :l Some of the other new features I may still not like, but, can deal with them. I just hate this character sheet so much, I actually came to a feedback thread :(
Maxim Gorkij True North 17	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:45:31 - [286] - Quote Naga Zin wrote: One more vote for changing back the Aura's voice. It doesn't sound like Eve at all! It's very annoying indeed. For me personally the line - Warp drive active was so immersive, it feels so much Eve to me. Hope you find a way to change it back, at least for commands. I don't care about the tutorial narrative. This. Very much this.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1224	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:49:02 - [287] - Quote Erik Kalkoken wrote: Maxim Gorkij wrote: Dibz wrote: RankOutsider wrote: 10 hours after a major new release and we're on page 12 in the general thread about it. 5 years ago we'd be on page 80+ by now, eve is doomed! I thought the same. Also the number of people logged in doesn't seem much different than normal, I would have thought there'd be more. I think after the first Alpha's have talked to their friends, flown around in their Velators, Ibises etc for a few days or even a week or two, + got their first frigates and ventures going, you will see the real spike... and another one a month or so after that when the awesomeness hits the hooked ones and they share their excitement with friends again :) I think you are looking at the wrong stats. New born players per hour is up a factor of 10 today !! http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Now, deduct all the "new born's" that are existing players trying out an Alpha clone. You'll probably find, there is little real increase My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Maris-Brood Ministry of War Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:52:02 - [288] - Quote Thank you CCP for all the hard work. PS I dont need to see that I am an Omega clone. The last thing we need is something else to click. Regards. Maris Brood
Voxinian 120	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:53:37 - [289] - Quote Testy McTestyFace2 wrote: Klaw Athonille wrote: so at this point there is no doubt that they will bring back the old Aura voice, my question is when... What? And admit they were wrong? Are you familiar with CCP in any way? I hate it, but we all know it's not going anywhere. Neither is the new character sheet. The voice clips are easy to redo and not that costly.... though I don't know what else they have planned for that voice. After playing a bunch of hours I don't think the voice actress itself is so bad (though I know a better more suited one, see my earlier comment), but it's the way she talks that makes it sound meh. It's no longer a calm voice, but as others have stated, it sounds like someone that had to much coffee.
Sokachi Red Planet Industries 1	Posted - 2016.11.15 23:58:23 - [290] - Quote In light of the mass hysteria over Aura's new voice, I think CCP should include free "Therapy Drones" along with the other Ascension rewards. #tsunamioftears #changehurtsmyfeelings

Kalen Blackstar Silver Sun Republic 19	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:05:02 - [291] - Quote Another vote for bringing back the old voice... or at least give us an option. This is painful!
Testy McTestyFace2 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:05:39 - [292] - Quote Voxinian wrote: Testy McTestyFace2 wrote: Klaw Athonille wrote: so at this point there is no doubt that they will bring back the old Aura voice, my question is when... What? And admit they were wrong? Are you familiar with CCP in any way? I hate it, but we all know it's not going anywhere. Neither is the new character sheet. The voice clips are easy to redo and not that costly.... though I don't know what else they have planned for that voice. After playing a bunch of hours I don't think the voice actress itself is so bad (though I know a better more suited one, see my earlier comment), but it's the way she talks that makes it sound meh. It's no longer a calm voice, but as others have stated, it sounds like someone that had to much coffee. They won't change anything. Couple of days time and there'll be an excitable dev post about new skins for Parkinson's Disease, funkier animation on some ship you could only fly if you trained for 20 years, a new theme tune that no-one listens to, and CCP Guard in probably another Permaband video - smoke and mirrors to detract you from the fact that.. ..they won't be changing Aura back. Period.
Kaze Mester FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 9	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:07:02 - [293] - Quote Sokachi wrote: In light of the mass hysteria over Aura's new voice, I think CCP should include free "Therapy Drones" along with the other Ascension rewards. #tsunamioftears #changehurtsmyfeelings If there is something good for years there is no reason to change it. If the reason for changing Aura's voice was making a narration voice than they should just have done that and leave Aura as it was. The narration voice should have been a male or female voice (depending on your caracter's gender) "in your head" and just leave Aura as the ship's voice. #tsunamiofbaddecisions #pointlesschangehurtsmyfeelings
Joseph Nobel Heros of Adult Entertainment 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:14:23 - [294] - Quote Xairene wrote: COUNTER FEEDBACK: VOICE ACTING I would like to respond to the general dissatisfaction with Aura's new voice. While the change is certainly jarring, particularly if you haven't spent getting used to it on SiSi, this is something that is not possible to revert. Not right away at least, and certainly not easily. From a creative developmental point of view, her new "personality" is much more in line with the kinds of AI personalities floating around out there in popular media. Change can be a scary thing, folks. But if you give it time, and the chance, you'll discover its not as bad as it feels right now. Fly safe! Yeah I'm sure comparing futuristic space A.I voice sounds just like that when compared to 2016 A.I used in smartphones.. Except comparing the two and acting on it comes from the mindset of a dunce. A decade long game with the inability to swap music files based on user preference is pathetic, and claiming that "it would be difficult" to do so is entirely wrong. Quote: From a creative developmental point of view, her new "personality" is much more in line with the kinds of AI personalities floating around out there in popular media. But it's not in line with a futuristic space MMORPG is it? So, creative was wrong, right? At least admit making a decision blasted by literally every single poster mentioning the new voice in this thread. Quote: Change can be a scary thing, folks. But if you give it time, and the chance, you'll discover its not as bad as it feels right now. Quote: its not as bad Quote: bad Super. Settling for worse because reverting things is super difficult.
Xodiac Primus New Eden's Best. 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:15:49 - [295] - Quote Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Sometimes I think changes are made for changes sake..... But wow, new voice.... not good. Old Aura was very soothing, new voice is wasted space on my HD. Can see it now... "No No No.. you don't get it lady, we wan't it to sound like you are doing voice-over for a $0.99 phone game!"
Borderjumper The High and Mighty Carebear Abortion Clinic 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:16:46 - [296] - Quote Long time player here giving some rare feedback. 1A. Two-way Auth.....get Fck...Like how that was forced on us. Even if only a one time thing. 1B. After multiple times logging in and telling the launcher to save my username and PW, it apparently thinks thats optional, as it simply wont remember them one the launcher is closed and opened again....Never liked the launcher so no love for it here and now. 2. I haven't played with sound on since 2011....turned it on today...yup. Simply sloppy. sounds off agian. RIP Aurora 2005-2016 3. Chart. Sheet....did you guys share a crack pipe and decide after smoke a fat rock it looked good?....nuf said. Did anyone with more then 100m SP even attempt to use this garbage? Oh you did? LIES... 4. Fitting window. the EFT on it is a nice touch, but the amount of clusterckary is extraordinary, albeit a tad cleaner? IDK. Time will tell on this one. 5A. Gang links. while I won't disagree it was needed, this new change is...well lacking really. Max skills leadership + Max ship skills+implant. super impenitent...like floppy cck weak. Needs range and time buff by say 25% more just to make it worth using the ammo for it. While I think the direction is good, the implementation is not. 5B. The new icons are kinda cool for the links, kudos on that art team. but not having seeded a small stock of command possessors was weak AF. glad on release day i get to pay top doller for * thats been out for ages now, and did you bother converting them...nope...its almost like you said "** ppl using links, let them suffer". 6. This reminding me I'm an omega player is redundant, and all the stuff that's built to remind me is annoying, IE. yellow borders, popup window telling me. way to cater to the lowest common nerd.... while there is more to elaborate on. I feel at page 15 this is all fallen on def ears, and its not like you guys are know for rolling back bad changes. As i stated above, been around for a while now. Seen some great expansions and some very terrible ones. I would say this falls somewhere on the better side, but not by much. At least you guys are trying and give 1\2 a sh!t about what's going on in the game. As always, thanks CCP P.S. At least this expansion didn't nix the boot.ini file :P
phaNNNNToM Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:16:51 - [297] - Quote Bring back the old voice pls
Maris-Brood Ministry of War Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:22:44 - [298] - Quote Nothing wrong with the voice. Get over it guys
Joseph Nobel Heros of Adult Entertainment 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:31:38 - [299] - Quote Maris-Brood wrote: Nothing wrong with the voice. Get over it guys But why would we want to settle for less when the original voice is objectively better?
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 60	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:40:48 - [300] - Quote Pendra Tahyan wrote: Also I do agree on AURA:s new voice but it appears to be set in stone so I guess we will have to get used to it. If 100,000 people cancel their subscription because of the new Aura voice today, there will be a patch tomorrow to change it back. The only things set in stone are those that people do not complain about loud enough. If you want to compare the old and new voice: Old: http://playground.schildwall.info/sisileaks/next_great_npe/index.1084091.php?voice=aura New: http://playground.schildwall.info/sisileaks/next_great_npe/?voice=aura

Mia Coldheart Teutate raiders The-Culture 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:47:43 - [301] - Quote Please bring back the original Aura Or give us an option to switch to the old version... If you guys really want to change the Aura's voice, choose a good actress like you did for Eve Valkyrie ! I'm sure Katee Sackhoff would accept the job !
Celly Smunt River-Rats in space 444	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:48:51 - [302] - Quote so several BIOs that were built over years of playing and I can't recover them? any chance you guys will fix that? o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 62	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:53:46 - [303] - Quote Celly S wrote: so several BIOs that were built over years of playing and I can't recover them? any chance you guys will fix that? Pretty sure they made a database backup before they updated the servers including all the bios. However when they can fix it is another question.
Xodiac Primus New Eden's Best. 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:57:47 - [304] - Quote Maris-Brood wrote: Nothing wrong with the voice. Get over it guys You should go talk to Miracle Ear and ask for an "Aura Discount"
Danalyse Sly POS Party Ember Sands 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 00:58:51 - [305] - Quote The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 650	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:06:42 - [306] - Quote Danalyse Sly wrote: The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability. I like this post. This is a good post. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Pubicbeard Jovakko The Intrepid Collective 7	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:08:14 - [307] - Quote Xairene wrote: COUNTER FEEDBACK: VOICE ACTING I would like to respond to the general dissatisfaction with Aura's new voice. While the change is certainly jarring, particularly if you haven't spent getting used to it on SiSi, this is something that is not possible to revert. Not right away at least, and certainly not easily. From a creative developmental point of view, her new "personality" is much more in line with the kinds of AI personalities floating around out there in popular media. Change can be a scary thing, folks. But if you give it time, and the chance, you'll discover its not as bad as it feels right now. Fly safe! So what eve has to follow the heard and change from something objectively to something worse?
Lugh Crow-Slave 3300	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:08:25 - [308] - Quote bring back Aura I get you had to get a new voice for the NPE but either change it so that is a different character or just flat leave the old voice for all the things we have come to enjoy BLOPS Hauler
Yolinde Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:16:37 - [309] - Quote CCP, please allow us to toggle the old Aura voice for anything she has existing lines for. I am not insulting the talent of the new voice actress, but the old Aura is EVE to me. I know some might not agree but I feel that Aura is to EVE what SHODAN is to System Shock and GLaDOS is to Portal.
Lana 'Monster-Hands' Kane Jinxed. 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:20:11 - [310] - Quote As someone who can't stand Aura's original voice and has wished it gone for years, it says a great deal about the way CCP' operate that the replacement has me yearning for a return to the original.

Hisana State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:21:48 - [311] - Quote You basically can't do anything on the free version. It's basically just a shuttle tour around EVE. No point training into anything. Drone V and Light Drone I. Haha. You can't even fit a cruiser properly.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 650	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:24:31 - [312] - Quote Hisana wrote: You basically can't do anything on the free version. It's basically just a shuttle tour around EVE. No point training into anything. Drone V and Light Drone I. Haha. You can't even fit a cruiser properly. That's cause you're supposed to fly Frigates and destroyers The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Pubicbeard Jovakko The Intrepid Collective 7	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:25:49 - [313] - Quote Lana 'Monster-Hands' Kane wrote: As someone who can't stand Aura's original voice and has wished it gone for years, it says a great deal about the way CCP' operate that the replacement has me yearning for a return to the original. you only know how good something really is until its gone
John Lawyer Jr Silicon Dreams Smile 'n' Wave 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:29:59 - [314] - Quote Why previous Aura VO is better? It has very defined atmosphere - emotionally distant neutrality of a cold steel - which compliments game much better than new Aura version. New one feels too.. hm.. mainstreamy - i imagine real person (woman) behind VO which may be great for casual game but not for EVE. Trying to create user-friendly element we have a risk of ruining immersion effect. Compare visual experience of "Conan The Barbarian" and "Xena: Warrior Princess". Both has swords and armours and stuff, but devil is in the details. Two different quality levels of immersion. Same situation with old/new Aura. I will be happy to have previous Aura back or... option to switch to another language pack (japanese would work) keep using ENG interface :)
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 411	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:31:24 - [315] - Quote Danalyse Sly wrote: The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability. I was going to be more polite about the new character/skill window and just call it overly cluttered and counter-intuitive. Besides what looks like busy work for busy work's sake (mouse over for everything detailed is a sloppy habit to fall into), it's less friendly to bad eyesight than the old one was. That's not a good thing. CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I'll learn to love the new Aura voice if you give back something very much resembling in both form and function the old skill window. Fair deal? >Jeven's String Puller Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
Kusum Fawn Perkone Caldari State 563	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:34:15 - [316] - Quote Why do you need my out of game browser to have cookies enabled for the launcher to let me play the game? Oh yay! thanks for letting me know ive paid for the game. Cause i didnt know that ive paid for the game. Why is the Training queue still a button if it, and the character portrait link to the same thing? nonstatic portrait is bad. Looks like the Drones rigging pic in the character sheet is borked. What is this about skills from clipboard? How many skills do i actually have? I cant copy my total skill points number anymore? So what is the rate that i am gaining skill points at? it appears to be double, ... something? Omega button is not in the Pilots license area? nor does that area have the extend sub option? what? Why does my character sheet close when i look at another characters full body portrait? Orange/Yellow boxes around things is stupid if i can already use it. Show me when i cant. Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Lance B Johnson Booze and Blues inc. Soviet-Union 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:38:14 - [317] - Quote Please bring back the old Voice.....also the hacking interface seems more sluggish than before.
Bemo Narcosis. 28	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:44:48 - [318] - Quote Maybe I just missed it due to the major screw up of the new skill sheet, but how and where do I see how many skill points I have in a certain skill? How am I supposed to tell how many injectors I will need or extractors if I cant see the actual number of SP in a certain skill? Please stop changing ****. Why don't you just create a new game that you can put all your new fancy crap in and leave EVE alone like it has been for the past ~10+ years ffs.
J'xander Spectre Exploration LLC 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:48:01 - [319] - Quote Please bring the old Aura back (or give us an option).
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:53:03 - [320] - Quote Kaze Mester wrote: Sokachi wrote: In light of the mass hysteria over Aura's new voice, I think CCP should include free "Therapy Drones" along with the other Ascension rewards. #tsunamioftears #changehurtsmyfeelings If there is something good for years there is no reason to change it. If the reason for changing Aura's voice was making a narration voice than they should just have done that and leave Aura as it was. The narration voice should have been a male or female voice (depending on your caracter's gender) "in your head" and just leave Aura as the ship's voice. #tsunamiofbaddecisions #pointlesschangehurtsmyfeelings Good idea.

Ocean Ormand Bagel and Lox 35	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:54:49 - [321] - Quote Regarding the new character sheets - can we please have it so we can have the training queue and the skills page in separate windows - it was so much easier when you could open the two windows side by side instead of having to do the vertical thing. Also what is up with that font size? Are you actually trying to blind your older players? I can barely see it - especially when it is shadowed.
Winter Archipelago Autumn Industrial Enterprises 792	Posted - 2016.11.16 01:54:53 - [322] - Quote Any info on how long the discounts on the SoE Sanctuary SKINs will last? I'd like to pick them up, but I'm also thinking about potentially waiting until Black Friday or Cyber Monday to see if there are any discounts on AUR in the works. I don't want to miss out on the discounted Sancutary SKINs, though, either. For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
Algarion Getz Aideron Corp 222	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:10:48 - [323] - Quote CCPlease give us an option to enable the old Aura voice. CCPlease enable the NPE on "old" accounts. The new character sheet is ... not good. I dont like it.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 33	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:11:00 - [324] - Quote Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. The character sheet was fine as it was. Did anyone ever express dissatisfaction with these elements? Change for change's sake. Suggest using focus groups made up of players to run changes by before making them. War reports: Blacknight active
Duns Minor RAMJAC Corporation 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:11:07 - [325] - Quote Yahoo mail is blocking the verification e-mails. This is Yahoo specific. No issues with gmail. Can you turn off 2 factor for 1 day so I can change e-mail address for my account?
Vincent Moussou Discount Grapes Inc Darwinism. 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:12:08 - [326] - Quote Digging most of the updates. Hope that the clones bring some extra people to shoot! HOWEVER: CCP; we need to talk. I'm sure you had your reasons...but can we please have the option to revert whatever Aura voice audio is available back...to the previous? I personally find the new voice to be annoying (muted for the first time ever). I'm sure she is a nice lady...but man I already miss the old voice.
Scarlett Audeles The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:23:23 - [327] - Quote Sophia Mileghere wrote: Can you bring the old voice back? ^^^^^^^^^ This!!!!
Sterling Paradox Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:44:17 - [328] - Quote Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: Danalyse Sly wrote: The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability. I was going to be more polite about the new character/skill window and just call it overly cluttered and counter-intuitive. Besides what looks like busy work for busy work's sake (mouse over for everything detailed is a sloppy habit to fall into), it's less friendly to bad eyesight than the old one was. That's not a good thing. CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I'll learn to love the new Aura voice if you give back something very much resembling in both form and function the old skill window. Fair deal? >Jeven's String Puller Polite critique is all good and well but not when it falls on deaf ears. Most of these criticisms were already brought up in the beta environment thread about how poor the new skill window is and were thoroughly ignored.
Sien Salazar Sorry About Your Face Re-Forged 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:46:29 - [329] - Quote Please its just a sound-pack, right can't we have the option?? Damn think about it you could start selling soundpacks in the new eden store
jin ko82 Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2016.11.16 02:52:36 - [330] - Quote fan ******* tastic update guys! i can log my alts in but not my main! very well done! i foresee eve dying even faster now that half the player base cant log in.

Jones Beach Bagel and Lox 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:04:36 - [331] - Quote I simply cant understand ccp sometimes - you went from an easy to see, easy to use skill queue and character page to something that is overly complex and so poorly designed as to almost be unusable - or more accurately unreadable. Please - just break out the skill page and the skill queue into separate windows. Also allow for resizing of the fonts. As it is now the fonts are so small as to make it extremely difficult to see. And no - this is not another you will get used to it in time issue. Cramming everything into one window to the point where you had to decrease font size to make everything fit - clearly makes things more difficult to read for those with small monitors or less then perfect eyesight. Its not rocket science - just common sense.
Mi Shui Archangels Inc. End of Natural Lifetime 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:05:21 - [332] - Quote I used to turn off music (they just not go fine with PVP chatting), and now what, you ask me to mute the voice ?
GoHa RED vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:13:45 - [333] - Quote UX team seems to be unfamiliar with the game. they do "beatuification" instead of real usability. Really, really bad usability decisions: Obvious things overlooked, uncomfortable dialogs introduced. New voice is nothing. Honestly, I would never start playing the game that speak such a voice. CCP, you are loosing the game. I see no good changes. I see bad and very unfortunate changes.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 2020	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:18:22 - [334] - Quote Jones Beach wrote: Its not rocket science - just common sense. You are in the wrong place for that. CCP will ignore the complaints for several days, then ask you to get used to not being able to read the skill window, and having no idea how many SP are invested in a skill. Not to mention the busy and jumbled presentation. Then, in 3 months time when there are only a couple of people still complaining about it, they will say that apart from these 2 guys everyone else loves not being able to read their skill page, and having less information than they used to have. CCP are a joke. Its always the little things like this, that should be common sense, that makes me the maddest. Every little papercut, every little change that replaces a working feature with something that looks nice but doesnt do as good a job, and that no one asked for; The new inventory The new camera The new map The new d-scan The docking animation etc. ,,,makes me actually glad to know that EVE is dying. Im beyond telling CCP that their obviously stupid design ideas should be changed. Keep them. Keep the game. I have no faith that there is any competent direction left at CCP. RIP.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 581	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:18:28 - [335] - Quote Worked for hours on my pilot picture, now when i open the character sheet i get a generic image? Before when i opened the character sheet to look at something my crafted picture was there, part of the regular flow of what i was doing when i accessed the character sheet. Now, i have to take another step (clicking my name) i'll not be taking because it doesnt occur naturally as i play the game. Before: organically while playing game occasionally get to see my enlarged portrait. Now: Will not see my portrait unless i take a non-nonsensical extra step just to see the image. Requesting you change the image at the top of the page to the one i made. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
GeeBee Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team 125	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:27:24 - [336] - Quote +1 New Voice is bad Old Voice is good. How about giving us access to put our own voicepacks in? But I had the same request with the icon's and we're stuck with them so we're probably stuck with this uninspired voice pack as well. #MakeCCPGreatAgain
Archelais Noobsauces 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:28:03 - [337] - Quote Wow the new character sheet is horrible... How can I tell how many skill points until my next level? Or how many skill points I have even devoted to that skill? Don't fix something that isn't broke. How many man hours did it take them to redo the character sheet only to **** off everyone. I know its meant to aid new players but I honestly don't see how this is helping anyone.
Admiral Zander Void Protectorate The Dominion Empire 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:30:45 - [338] - Quote Can't stand the "WERP Drive Active" sound. It's "WARP" Not "WERP"!
GeeBee Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team 125	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:39:01 - [339] - Quote Admiral Zander wrote: Can't stand the "WERP Drive Active" sound. It's "WARP" Not "WERP"! to me sounds like shes talking through a toilet roll into a tin can.
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 92	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:55:42 - [340] - Quote Don't like character sheet portrait banner = mimimize it Don't like new Aura voice = Turn sound down... whats next? Don't like new UI = disable it? Don't like new probe scanner = don't use it? Don't like new mechanics = don't play? This is a total cop-out. If the new aura voice is how new players are expected to be introduced into the game, I feel the bad for them. Eve is meant to be ruthless and cold... the new voice is so sprightly and happy.. not in line with the game AT ALL! If it ain't broke, don't fix it... and if you are going to revamp something... make it BETTER.. .not WORSE. Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"

Linkoman Dutch East Querious Company Asteria Concord. 11	Posted - 2016.11.16 03:56:57 - [341] - Quote I personally like the voice. I think it has a lot more personality than the old one did.
Inir Ishtori Perkone Caldari State 84	Posted - 2016.11.16 04:15:06 - [342] - Quote My initial impression is mostly negative. I don't see much change I was hoping would happen some day - ie citadels/outposts becoming interactive on a more deeper and personal level or improvements to PI. There is a suggestion about that somewhere in my posting history. Alpha clone skill sets are extremely limiting and halving skill training speed just adds insult to the injury. The usual complaint of new players was not being able to get into relevant ships faster and how exclusion from many important skills while also getting the skills twice as slow should help retaining them i really don't know. At least i am glad to have had a 3 weeks headstart for my alpha character. Which brings me to the character sheet. It's **. Terrible. Not once since I started playing in 2006 have I thought CCP went full **: not when you failed Incarna(you simply don't have the right talent), not when you were discussing gold ammo(you were being really stupid back then, though), not when you messed up the fitting screen(because it still was and is to this day perfectly usable). But this piece of you created is going full **** at cosmic speeds. It's pretty funny too, because the fitting screen doesn't even show all the apparel the character wears, so people can't see what their character looks like to other players and will probably stop caring at some point, directly cutting into your NEX store profits. Instead of letting your UI experts messing up perfectly fine interfaces, it would have been a really good idea to force them to create a better drone interface so we can actually have buttons for attack, return, orbit etc. When I was actually playing the game before, it was in the evenings before sleep, usually relaxing and drinking a cup of tea, and in such a setting being able to comfortably use a mouse for all relevant interactions would have been great. Playing as an alpha clone I also realized that you most probably won't be getting money nor PLEX from me anymore. I became quite a carebear after my initial pvp experiences simply due to the fact that earning ISK was and is still boring, so over the years instead of being bored even more sitting somewhere on a gate or flying around for 2 hours for 5 minutes of action I became quite content as a solo player doing 2-3 missions every 3-4 days. And those are pretty much the same from level 1 to level 4. Everything else is either more fun as an actual Excel sheet(like PI), EFT graph or requires of one to be on the far side of the autist spectrum(scan spam in wormholes), so high sec without fancy ships it is. All completely free with the new shiny and really pretty explosions from what i can tell by looking at the NPC frigates going boom in LvL1's. TL;DR: everything is meh to awful other than explosions. Those are pretty nice.
artemis Ambraella 10 Hammers Black Ops Division 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 04:27:52 - [343] - Quote Aura's new voice sounds like the voice in an elevator with a crappy speaker. CCPlease bring back the old Aura's voice. It was richer, fuller, and a calm soothing voice in this mad universe. I can understand the will to change Aura's voice for something a bit different, but why the potato quality?!? Also, the "Docking permission requested" line, why is it playing so fast?
Belthazor4011 The Bacon Who Loved Me The Bacon Empire 284	Posted - 2016.11.16 04:37:02 - [344] - Quote In short -New Voice is terrible, why change something that wasn't broken? -New Character sheet is terrible and stupidly complicated to use, why change something that wasn't broken? -New Explosions are nice, but they are so big I feel like my ship should go boom with it every time I see one happen. Maybe they are too big? -Can't play with my friends tonight because half of them aren't getting their verification mails. -The good? Ehhh still looking, will let you know if I find something.
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 413	Posted - 2016.11.16 04:45:47 - [345] - Quote Sterling Paradox wrote: Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: Danalyse Sly wrote: The new skill window is the single most obnoxious addition that has ever graced this client and wins the Yahtzee croshaw "CRT Monitor at the bottom of a well" prize for clarity and readability. I was going to be more polite about the new character/skill window and just call it overly cluttered and counter-intuitive. Besides what looks like busy work for busy work's sake (mouse over for everything detailed is a sloppy habit to fall into), it's less friendly to bad eyesight than the old one was. That's not a good thing. CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I'll learn to love the new Aura voice if you give back something very much resembling in both form and function the old skill window. Fair deal? >Jeven's String Puller Polite critique is all good and well but not when it falls on deaf ears. Most of these criticisms were already brought up in the beta environment thread about how poor the new skill window is and were thoroughly ignored. So basically CCP did the same thing with SiSi character sheet feedback as they do with any feedback that's not glowing in praise. Ignore it until the paying customers complaining shut up and/or go away. How disheartening. I'd honestly hoped with the (fingers crossed) large influx of actual new players, the bad habits of CCP's update/expansion behavior (breaking what works, shelving feedback, going for pretty over functional, delaying promise fulfillment to the time order of years) had been tossed aside so they wouldn't have to slog through the mess older players fight each and every update/release/expansion. Le Sigh. Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
GoHa RED vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 04:50:20 - [346] - Quote Did CCP ever tried to explain why they changed good voice with obviously bad one?
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 651	Posted - 2016.11.16 04:55:27 - [347] - Quote GoHa RED wrote: Did CCP ever tried to explain why they changed good voice with obviously bad one? New NPE work. Needed more voice work for the new NPE, and didn't want to have mixed voice files, is my understanding. The NPE MASSIVELY needed a rework. Haven't been through it yet myself, but the cost was a new voice over. I think this one woulda been okay had she not said so many things soooooo fast. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
GoHa RED vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:03:09 - [348] - Quote and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it?
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 49	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:09:14 - [349] - Quote GoHa RED wrote: and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it? CCP had to make it more appealing for children and casuals.
GoHa RED vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:11:42 - [350] - Quote Is that official version and being said somewhere? Could you, please, provide a link?

Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:19:06 - [351] - Quote GoHa RED wrote: Is that official version and being said somewhere? Could you, please, provide a link? No, it is what I think when I hear it. It sound like terrain star craft 2 voice to me and we all know who likes this game.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 651	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:20:32 - [352] - Quote It IS important to note that new Aura sounds much better from the bit of dabbling I've done in the new NPE and youtube vids I've watched. She just speaks waaay too fast in the standard interactions like warp drive active and docking. The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:24:31 - [353] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: CCP are a joke. RIP. Can confirm. Bot armies can fully automaticly suck dry whole mining belts but cpp fails to write a script for changing clones without leaving the ship. And the one they did for not manually stopping the queue freezes my pc for several seconds.
SeVenNight Deng Tai-Chi Northern Coalition. 23	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:30:09 - [354] - Quote I came again to summarize the things need to change/improve like I did in the last patch: 1. Give the options to us to choose for the new or old Aura voice( even though most of the time I turn my sound off, most of my fri prefer the old voice. You should know the feeling when the someone accompanied you for many year and suddenly be taken away.) 2. Improve your character sheet, with training multiplier and actual skill point listed in sheet, and make the static avatar, as the same as the one we were using. 3. Omega do not need the Gold outlines, no, we don't. We already subscribe and this should not be the thing to distract ppls.
GoHa RED vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:30:14 - [355] - Quote My opinion: new voice is not better at any means, and much worse in many means. What is even more important: old voice created very special ffeling... Wich totally lost now. I found two solutions: first, I turn lvl of UI speach to zero. Played a little and figured that I am missing a lot. Second - I closed EVE client. And I don't wanna come back to hear that new chatty-puppy-crap. It is not an intention, not a statemtn. It how I feel: I dont wanna live in that new environment. it. is just something inside me don't want it anymore. big disappointment. P.S. Does anyone sell sound pack with old voice? WTB!! Willing to pay to get old voice back.
Ismael Caleb Echart Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:32:48 - [356] - Quote I don't often complain - but add me to the long list of objectors to your continual changes for features that were either simple to use, user friendly, or aesthically pleasing. Character Sheet - rubbish. New voice rubbish. Still hate the new map and probe window. You know now when I hear there's a major update coming, instead of really looking forward to the new stuff, I tend to wonder what is going to get screwed up next that is going to annoy me and spoil my in game enjoyment. Change for change sake is poor management just because it looks more flashy. Start listening to your customers please and if you change something - give us an option to use it or NOT in the settings menu, or yore just going to **** of a lot of people with the risk that some will just say enough is enough. One customer will probably spend several hundred $dollars worth of real money during their game lifetime - is it not better to keep as many as possible satisfied and playing?
Cat Steele Delphia Trust 5	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:39:04 - [357] - Quote I hope the Aura voice for everyday interactions can be fixed to something that sounds more like the old Aura, not to beat a dead horse or anything. I've made my peace with the new skill window, it took some adjusting, but I guess I will manage with it. I do wish my character portrait was inserted in the character section, instead of the new animation, I do not like the animation. For those that are missing the character picture in the character section of the character sheet, press the down arrow in the upper right hand corner, basically that section is "minimized". It should be right next to security status. I hope that helps. I am a bit undecided on the new fleet boost mechanic, on one hand I do like that it is on grid, on the other hand, I am not that fond of having to babysit the activation of it. I suppose I will adjust to it, for me though it's a little meh :( Thanks CCP for placing the omega icon at the login, at least it lets me know I'm paid up for one more day. I do appreciate the changes to the orca bays, and the new mining drone changes. I also can appreciate that you no longer have to organize your fleets for the fleet boosts. I think the update is a 5/10, I hope you change that animation to the portrait on the character screen and at least make some sort of fix to the Aura voice, then I think the update would be much better 8/10.
Jerghul Running with Dogs Stella Nova 13	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:45:23 - [358] - Quote Great job CCP! Thank you. " We have been doing a lot of challenging old assumptions of late, and often with delightful results. Just because something is doesn't mean it should be..." -Team Game Of Drones (Dec 2015)
GoHa RED vasPat3uyuRa5ethuza6ephegaku5a2R 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:46:18 - [359] - Quote you will mine more, and sell for less. Proportion between time spend and ISK earned will be the same.
Daemon Ceed Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 396	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:51:33 - [360] - Quote Aura's new voice sounds like a female Stephen Hawkings. All due respect to Prof. Hawkings, but his feminized voice does not sooth me the way old Aura did as I was making my way through 40 jumps of Lowsec. For the love of BOB, can we bring her back?

Victoria Cohen State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:53:14 - [361] - Quote 1- you owe me Skillpoint as my Blood Raider Accelerator stoped working 2- your 2 factors verification is annoying and not totaly working properly 3- bring back the lady's voice!
Daemon Ceed Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy 396	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:56:20 - [362] - Quote Ni Neith wrote: GoHa RED wrote: and what hapen with old voice? Why can't continue using it? CCP had to make it more appealing for children and casuals. Hate to be a Negative Nancy, but I'd say they failed at both.
Grognard Commissar Splinter Cell Operations inPanic 14	Posted - 2016.11.16 05:58:50 - [363] - Quote i'm just hoping that the price of elite drone AI's will drop here... at 10 mil a pop, it results in each excavator drone running about 1.1B to build, per drone,a t an ME2 outpost. not including the logistical nightmare that is the nullsec market, but that's always been a pain lol
Grognard Commissar Splinter Cell Operations inPanic 14	Posted - 2016.11.16 06:03:01 - [364] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: Jones Beach wrote: Its not rocket science - just common sense. You are in the wrong place for that. CCP will ignore the complaints for several days, then ask you to get used to not being able to read the skill window, and having no idea how many SP are invested in a skill. Not to mention the busy and jumbled presentation. Then, in 3 months time when there are only a couple of people still complaining about it, they will say that apart from these 2 guys everyone else loves not being able to read their skill page, and having less information than they used to have. CCP are a joke. Its always the little things like this, that should be common sense, that makes me the maddest. Every little papercut, every little change that replaces a working feature with something that looks nice but doesnt do as good a job, and that no one asked for; The new inventory The new camera The new map The new d-scan The docking animation etc. ,,,makes me actually glad to know that EVE is dying. Im beyond telling CCP that their obviously stupid design ideas should be changed. Keep them. Keep the game. I have no faith that there is any competent direction left at CCP. RIP. can I have your stuff?
Grognard Commissar Splinter Cell Operations inPanic 14	Posted - 2016.11.16 06:10:53 - [365] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Benevolant George wrote: Pulse Activated Nexus Invulnerability Core bpo doesnt appeared to be seeded? Did you check an ORE station? How about ORE LP store? shudder i bought mine at an ore station
Beam Moonrunner Solar Deliberative Games of Divinity 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 06:22:23 - [366] - Quote New voice is terrible . please bring back the old voice.
Cisco Ayeoess Cryptic Technologies 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 06:47:08 - [367] - Quote Please, please, please can we have the old voice back? Or an option to choose? The new nasally voice is incredibly annoying.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 218	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:00:25 - [368] - Quote Can you please slow the Aura speech rate for standard stuff like warping, docking etc. She's a little fast. CCP I'm still hoping that you're going to eventually make the camera feature parity to the old camera. Still would love to have a custom tracking position for it. That and please a way to toggle off the docking camera. It takes to long to release the camera going through the transition and feels like it just takes longer overall to do anything when docking/undocking. I'd love to leave the dynamic camera on but turn off that component. Warping to an insta undock on station for example is annoying as I can't turn the camera out into space for several seconds. @dominousnolen
Anna Tomy Caille University Art Faculty Haven. 9	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:33:13 - [369] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: the new warpdrive-active is kinda jarring for one used to the soothing, near seductive tones of the previous Aura voice. a toggle, pretty please...... Well, while you're at it: Please add an option for a manly male, british accent, slightly snarky AI assistant voice. It's frustrating enough that all my real devices/Cortana/Google sound like female sexbots...
Maxim Gorkij True North 29	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:34:02 - [370] - Quote Jones Beach wrote: I simply cant understand ccp sometimes - you went from an easy to see, easy to use skill queue and character page to something that is overly complex and so poorly designed as to almost be unusable - or more accurately unreadable. Please - just break out the skill page and the skill queue into separate windows. Also allow for resizing of the fonts. As it is now the fonts are so small as to make it extremely difficult to see. And no - this is not another you will get used to it in time issue. Cramming everything into one window to the point where you had to decrease font size to make everything fit - clearly makes things more difficult to read for those with small monitors or less then perfect eyesight. Its not rocket science - just common sense. Spot on.

Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:35:30 - [371] - Quote Xan Pendragon wrote: No option to save a fit in the fitting window - or am I missing something? you are missing something click the button on the left to show fittings, there is a save as button at the bottom
Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:37:11 - [372] - Quote Chillya wrote: I'll try once again: I really do not see the need for the golden frame in the inventory for Omega-state items when a character is already in Omega state. Every visual marking should represent something. What does the golden border indicate to me when I am already in Omega state? That I will lose the use of this item? That information is useless. I hope I am not the only one who thinks that in omega state the golden border around items in your inventory should not be present. could not agree more - why do we need to see this yellow box everywhere and why do we need to see this omega symbol everywhere??? we are paying customers.
Jime Sunji State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:49:01 - [373] - Quote I like the new explosions and the new inventory icons! They feel a lot more detailed and overall look much better then before! I really dislike the new voice! Hearing this preteen, girly voice, every time I start warping makes me want to turn off the sound! The new UI is more flashy but really cluttered and completely unusable! Sadly, I can't say one positive thing about it. UI is one of those things where usability matters more to the player then bling bling! It used to be really easy to manage long queues and a big queue windows gives a clear picture of all the skills in the queue. Now adding a skill involved a lot of scrolling up and down and the small queue box makes it really unusable! PLEASE, return the old skill sheet! Thank you
Jegug Gyohoe MCSLC 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 07:49:35 - [374] - Quote Bring back the original voice, the new one is terrible
Levin Crack 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 08:03:02 - [375] - Quote o/ When will you guys hand out the rewards to loyal and subscribed players? The stuff you guys promised to give out if you stayed subbed until the 8th or 15th or so?
General Lynch Fire Ridge Holdings 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 08:17:38 - [376] - Quote Sophia Mileghere wrote: Can you bring the old voice back? This
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 414	Posted - 2016.11.16 08:33:55 - [377] - Quote How to phrase another problem with this new shiny character/skill sheet. I get it you want people to subscribe to Omega Clone state. I get Alpha State is not where you want the vast majority of logins to come from. But sheesh. CCPlease, you might want to tone down the spammy mouse over here there and everywhere popouts to subscribe as an Omega to use the nice shinier ships and mods. It's blocking my view of just about everything I try to do on the Alpha Clone accounts. If this plan of ingame UI ads was run by a marketing study and was given full thumbs up, you got robbed on the results you were fed. This is beyond annoying. This borders on flipping off the monitor and logging out on any Alpha I have... for a very long to permanent timeline. If I can't see what I'm doing around obsessive ads, I can't play >Jeven Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
Jules Cognac Vertical Horizons 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:00:45 - [378] - Quote Please bring back the old Aura voice.
Excoecaria Agallocha Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:01:07 - [379] - Quote Duns Minor wrote: Yahoo mail is blocking the verification e-mails. This is Yahoo specific. No issues with gmail. Can you turn off 2 factor for 1 day so I can change e-mail address for my account? And in 1 day most of their current support tickets would be resolved. Struggling with the same issue myself. I wonder how many Real-time Block Lists have been trigged because of enforced 2FA....
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 414	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:01:37 - [380] - Quote Snip! Dominous Nolen wrote: That and please a way to toggle off the docking camera. It takes to long to release the camera going through the transition and feels like it just takes longer overall with the Dynamic Camera on to enter and leave station. I'd love to leave the dynamic camera on but turn off that component. Warping to an insta undock on station for example is annoying as I can't turn the camera out into space for several seconds. Snip! The undocking of ponderous animation is still tagged to Dynamic Camera Movement. Considering the long delay then silence on fixing some lingering complaints on the New Camera, it might be a while before it's divorced from that checkmark toggle. Wasn't the other workaround involving zooming camera range? Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.

Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 98	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:29:23 - [381] - Quote How I would sum-up the comparison of the old Aura voice to the new one... Old voice - "Warp Drive Active, there is a chance you are gonna die, I hope you know what you are doing" New voice - "Warp Drive Active. Have a nice day" Just ewwww Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Artsnis Archangels of Dead Space inc Shadow of xXDEATHXx 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:33:26 - [382] - Quote bring old aura back. pls. this is only nostalgic thing that i had for years in eve. warp drive active.... rip.
Anna Tomy Caille University Art Faculty Haven. 10	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:42:50 - [383] - Quote Annexe wrote: How I would sum-up the comparison of the old Aura voice to the new one... Old voice - "Warp Drive Active, there is a chance you are gonna die, I hope you know what you are doing" New voice - "Warp Drive Active. Have a nice day" Just ewwww My guess: It's a bit "more like Glados". There seems to be a trend to make AI voices in games a bit glitchy following the success of Portal... On a personal note: It's okay. Different, yeah, but no game breaker, far from "horrendous". But the drama is... interesting.
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 67	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:44:43 - [384] - Quote Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I don't get you guys. Why would you want to make a deal with someone you pay for doing something you want? That's like telling a car dealer "Ok the car doesn't work, but if you give me a free car wash I'll let it slip." That's not how it works. You are not a slave to CCP. You are not obliged to pay for this game. It is the other way around: they are obliged to deliver a game that you consider worth paying for. You are very much allowed to make demands when you hand them your monthly fee and with that essentially pay a fraction of their salary. And if they do something that offends the majority of the players, then you politely say "Thank you, but no thanks. Now fix it." And if they refuse to change it back, you in response refuse to pay them any further. And if they realize you are serious about your demands, things suddenly change. Because: guess how many people at CCP will receive a salary in December if all players spontaneously quit.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 2021	Posted - 2016.11.16 09:53:10 - [385] - Quote The problem is not the character sheet. The problem is the person who keeps letting these changes go through in states that are inferior to what they are replacing. That person has been slowly killing this game since the changes to the inventory system, and many papercuts since. Until that person is ejected, not even the simplest and most fundamental parts of the game are safe.
Le Loup Gris The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:01:48 - [386] - Quote It's only 4 years that I joined but I'm still amazed that EVE is running now for 13 years as a sandbox 'game' (almost) 24/7. Well, I used to be amazed. Ever since CCP announced the shorter interval of expansions/changes EVE seems to be... unfinished. I think CCP Phantom himself states it perfectly in his community spotlight "Good perparation and adequate planning are also rare because often things are done in a slap-bang method..." 'Small' things I stumbled upon (most of them already mentioned) - Aura (who sounds like the "Please ask your physician or pharmacist about the risks and side effects." in a medicine TV ad) - Asteroids you can't target from space any more - un/docking delays - balancing ships (Rorqual! ) - as a subscriber still being on alpha clone - reaction time of custom service I understand that you need to change and adapt to 'survive'. Every patch/expansion has the risk of bugs and errors. I just whish that CCP would take more time to prepare and to test in advance. It appears CCP follows the general trend of getting rid of quality contro, releasing a work in progressl and let the customer do the rest. Lower the pace for the sake of quality.
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:05:26 - [387] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: That person has been slowly killing this game since the changes to the inventory system. I remember a time when salvage was already ordered and stored for each wreck. Now you have all individual parts and when you are done and click "stack all" your ffing system freezes!
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 99	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:07:20 - [388] - Quote So while the new explosions are pretty damn awesome, the camera reset delay looks to have been broken, which means while viewing a ship as it dies the camera jumps right back to the players ship. No admiring new explosions. This was something CCP changed not long ago. Fix pls. Again Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 67	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:16:02 - [389] - Quote Anna Tomy wrote: But the drama is... interesting. I think part of the drama is the way this is forced down our throats, despite all the negative commends on SiSi. If they had made an option to revert back to the old voice, there would be a few "new Aura is bad" comments, but nothing more. The big problem however is, that CCP actually thinks that their... let me politely call it crap, is actually good, and that no one would even consider not using the new voice, or the new character sheet for that matter. This very clearly shows two problems that are going on at CCP right now: - Lack of connection to the player base aka arrogance - Lack of ability to improve the game aka incompetence Combining arrogance with incompetence is a guaranteed way to ruin literally everything. And I think that is fueling the current discussion: a certain fear that CCP is loosing the grip on this game once again.
Excoecaria Agallocha Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:17:10 - [390] - Quote It occurred to me I might be waiting awhile for a response to my support ticket my launcher gives the error my e-mail address is not supported.... It almost like that Dilbert cartoon where they have to send an e-mail to let IT know that the e-mail server is down... And I can't log in to my account to change my e-mail either.

Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:24:54 - [391] - Quote are we going to get a response from the devs on these issues or what? Quite clearly vast majority hate the new voice (i personally havent had audio enabled for 5 yrs and have no intention of changing that) The new character sheet is GARBAGE who signed off on this? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change it back. The orange / yellow borders and yellow omega icons on everything....WHY DO I NEED TO SEE THIS I AM PAYING YOU FOR THIS GAME, I DONT NEED TO SEE THIS. Honestly your customer service REALLY REALLY needs improvement.
Rhah Nabunaid Grain Fields Inc. 9	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:35:36 - [392] - Quote Would it really be so much to ask for an option to choose between the old and new voice of Aura, CCP? I know the old one has been replaced with the new, but you've obviously still got the old files - which I know aren't that big in size, as I'm a Sound Designer myself - so adding these back in for the spoken commands as a second option shouldn't be too difficult. Nor would it have a great impact on the game in any way. You'd just be enabling your players to play in a way that many (as should be obvious by now) prefer. Instead of just ripping something that they have come to love and have grown accustomed to away from under their noses for no apparent reason. Also, since such a vast amount of players have been complaining about this change, I think it would only be fair for a Dev to at least finally comment on this change as to why it was made in the first place and what our prospects are regarding this matter. I came back (as alpha) after a long break to see how this new expansion would turn out, and even though I'm sure that I will get used to all the other changes, when I first heard this new (terrible) voice for Aura I was shocked and, quite frankly, pissed off. So as long as we haven't had a definitive statement from a Dev regarding this matter, I will certainly not be upgrading to Omega state. Don't get me wrong, I know one subscriber more or less won't keep you awake at night, but at least it's one of the very few ways I have left to show that I don't agree with your choices. As, as someone else said before me, I'm not a slave to CCP and am not obliged to pay you.
Donna Stride Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 13	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:39:52 - [393] - Quote Benevolant Khan wrote: are we going to get a response from the devs on these issues or what? Quite clearly vast majority hate the new voice (i personally havent had audio enabled for 5 yrs and have no intention of changing that) The new character sheet is GARBAGE who signed off on this? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE change it back. The orange / yellow borders and yellow omega icons on everything....WHY DO I NEED TO SEE THIS I AM PAYING YOU FOR THIS GAME, I DONT NEED TO SEE THIS. Honestly your customer service REALLY REALLY needs improvement. +1 Sums up the few, but really important, changes that I do not care for either; and many others it seems.
Marlene Dakenek Devid Ventures 20	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:51:46 - [394] - Quote Skill sheet sucks. Aura sounds cheap and too happy. I don't want to see yellow borders when subscribed.
Terrorfrodo Interbus Universal 753	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:52:09 - [395] - Quote New Aura sucks, please bring the old back or offer several voice packs like many other games do. New Aura is just like a slightly annoyed and bored woman talking to me. I'm pretty sure EVE players don't need even more of that in their lives :p Old Aura sounded like a nice but synthetic computer voice, which is exactly how my spaceship should talk to me! .
Zhothaqquah Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 10:59:57 - [396] - Quote Excoecaria Agallocha wrote: It occurred to me I might be waiting awhile for a response to my support ticket my launcher gives the error my e-mail address is not supported.... It almost like that Dilbert cartoon where they have to send an e-mail to let IT know that the e-mail server is down... And I can't log in to my account to change my e-mail either. I'm with you. Had that feeling last night when I couldn't log in and play. My issue (I'm sure I'm not the only one who'll admit it) is that I don't follow the dev blogs or pre-patch announcements. I just want to log in and play internet spaceships like I'm paying to. So CCP, imagine my surprise and extreme frustration last night, when after a long and stressful day at work earning the money I'm eventually going to turn over to you, to find I can't log into the game I've paid to play for years because you idiots implemented some ridiculous email authentication system that clearly was untested. The email was supposed to arrive in 10 minutes. It never did. I submitted a help ticket as I was instructed to and got the standard format letter response, instead of the help that I deserve to get as a paying customer. Everyone else seems to be bitching, whining and griping about the voice!? To hell with the damn voice! How about CCP making sure that the **** they roll out isn't going to negatively impact their paying player base ability to log in and play?! The email that was supposed to take ten minutes ended up taking over 5 damn hours to hit my inbox, well after I'd given up hope and had gone to bed for the evening. Will I get anything from CCP for the disruption in my service that they caused? CCP you have a very successful game going for yourselves. It's been going good for 13 years. But server pop is steadily dropping and I suspect it has a lot to do with not keeping your customers happy. Would you like to see another 13 years?
Swind FREE GATES FREE GATES COALITION 12	Posted - 2016.11.16 11:05:17 - [397] - Quote Pls bring back the old aura voice as a option. The new aura sounds like a cartoon char . A female Speedy Gonzales maybe?
Excoecaria Agallocha Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 11:05:20 - [398] - Quote Zhothaqquah wrote: Excoecaria Agallocha wrote: It occurred to me I might be waiting awhile for a response to my support ticket my launcher gives the error my e-mail address is not supported.... It almost like that Dilbert cartoon where they have to send an e-mail to let IT know that the e-mail server is down... And I can't log in to my account to change my e-mail either. I'm with you. Had that feeling last night when I couldn't log in and play. My issue (I'm sure I'm not the only one who'll admit it) is that I don't follow the dev blogs or pre-patch announcements. I just want to log in and play internet spaceships like I'm paying to. So CCP, imagine my surprise and extreme frustration last night, when after a long and stressful day at work earning the money I'm eventually going to turn over to you, to find I can't log into the game I've paid to play for years because you idiots implemented some ridiculous email authentication system that clearly was untested. The email was supposed to arrive in 10 minutes. It never did. I submitted a help ticket as I was instructed to and got the standard format letter response, instead of the help that I deserve to get as a paying customer. Everyone else seems to be bitching, whining and griping about the voice!? To hell with the damn voice! How about CCP making sure that the **** they roll out isn't going to negatively impact their paying player base ability to log in and play?! The email that was supposed to take ten minutes ended up taking over 5 damn hours to hit my inbox, well after I'd given up hope and had gone to bed for the evening. Will I get anything from CCP for the disruption in my service that they caused? CCP you have a very successful game going for yourselves. It's been going good for 13 years. But server pop is steadily dropping and I suspect it has a lot to do with not keeping your customers happy. Would you like to see another 13 years? I think CCP tested it, just e-mail arrives pretty quick when its to an internal server that doesn't treat a swarm of messages with codes in it as some kind of spam flood. I want to know how my e-mail address could be verified, but not 'supported'. It would have helped if this fact was made apparent before the 2FA was made mandatory and I could have resolved the issue myself. I'm sure CCP has other things they'd rather be doing.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 37	Posted - 2016.11.16 11:22:01 - [399] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: The problem is not the character sheet. The problem is the person who keeps letting these changes go through in states that are inferior to what they are replacing. That person has been slowly killing this game since the changes to the inventory system, and many papercuts since. Until that person is ejected, not even the simplest and most fundamental parts of the game are safe. +1 Some ideas may look good at first glance as a one off, but do not stand up to repeated play and soon become very annoying. For example: - The docking animation. This is all the more annoying because I am waiting to orientate my ship so as not to see... - The distracting videos projected in the stations. Please give us toggles to eliminate both. - The warp tunnel animation when taking gates. I close my eyes. - The flashing target and X animation for destroyed ships. Aura's new voice falls into this category. Hear it once, okay. Hear it 100 times a day, no. War reports: Blacknight active
Don Pera Saissore 116	Posted - 2016.11.16 11:28:10 - [400] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: The problem is not the character sheet. The problem is the person who keeps letting these changes go through in states that are inferior to what they are replacing. That person has been slowly killing this game since the changes to the inventory system, and many papercuts since. Until that person is ejected, not even the simplest and most fundamental parts of the game are safe. Yeah i get the felling they never fired that pssssssshhhhhhh guy.

Do Nut Caldari State 14	Posted - 2016.11.16 11:29:07 - [401] - Quote Ion Blacknight wrote: ... Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. ... This! Happiness is a way of travelling not a destination.
Edward Olmops Gunboat Commando 348	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:08:26 - [402] - Quote On request of CCP Falcon I now dislike the new Aura voice on this thread. It's not everything new that is bad, just this bit in particular. As a veteran I have not seen the new New Player Experience. Hopefully Aura's performance there is convincing. But please let her redo some of the generic voice messages. Wup drive active is terrible.
AnzacPaul Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 119	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:10:11 - [403] - Quote How come you can no longer hover over a module and see if it will fit on your ship anymore? It used to show the CPU/Grid usage, now you have to try and fit the module before you know if you've got enough CPU/Grid left.......
General Lynch Fire Ridge Holdings 10	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:27:45 - [404] - Quote Do Nut wrote: Ion Blacknight wrote: ... Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. ... This! This
Nankeen Heron Jim's Mowing 21	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:34:37 - [405] - Quote +1. The new voice is much too much "Eddie" than "Marvin": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4Wi6-XHL4
General Lynch Fire Ridge Holdings 13	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:46:02 - [406] - Quote Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4
Sterling Paradox Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:46:49 - [407] - Quote Raw Matters wrote: Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I don't get you guys. Why would you want to make a deal with someone you pay for doing something you want? That's like telling a car dealer "Ok the car doesn't work, but if you give me a free car wash I'll let it slip." That's not how it works. You are not a slave to CCP. You are not obliged to pay for this game. It is the other way around: they are obliged to deliver a game that you consider worth paying for. You are very much allowed to make demands when you hand them your monthly fee and with that essentially pay a fraction of their salary. And if they do something that offends the majority of the players, then you politely say "Thank you, but no thanks. Now fix it." And if they refuse to change it back, you in response refuse to pay them any further. And if they realize you are serious about your demands, things suddenly change. Because: guess how many people at CCP will receive a salary in December if all players spontaneously quit. Totally agree. I already let my 4 accounts lapse because I refiuse to pay money for the privilidge of looking at the new skill window. xD
Anna Maria Yolo Neutron Blaster Solutions 21	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:47:05 - [408] - Quote CCP guys, I'm getting angry. Yesterday I received the following information while trying log-in: https://zapodaj.net/561c5268a2ca6.jpg.html I cannot log in on the few, but not all accounts connected to this address email. I have got frozen assets from my indusrty line on one of these accounts. Without one of these accounts all my industrial chars are useless. I maintain active accounts, but cannot use them. Please tell me deadline of a very complicated task - sending a verification code at the gmail address. I know that not all the providers are able to send the email at the gmail address, but I'm sure that in the whole world there are at least a few who still can this very specialized work. I'm really angry, because last time I waited 90 days for your response and fixing the obvious mistake. That problem reffered to one of my toons. This one affects all my accounts not toon and a compensation (sorry man, here is 14 days of game time as a compensation) will be insufficient, because I just cannot set the training queue, use cerebral accelerators and use assets frozen on these accounts.
Belinda Hawke Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:48:20 - [409] - Quote Sophia Mileghere wrote: Can you bring the old voice back? This
Sandor Kurovsky Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:50:52 - [410] - Quote So far, things to note: The launcher fails to remember my accounts once it is closed. Each time I open it, I have to re-add my accounts. The new voice of Aura: At first I wasn't sure what "that noise" was that I kept hearing. I couldn't make out what it was saying because: 1) it was speaking too fast 2) the enunciation was extremely poor 3) the tone of the voice was too high pitched So, slow it down & make it a lower tone and for heaven's sake, ENUNCIATE! The remodel of the character sheet is not user friendly. Too many tabs with poorly worded descriptions of what is in them (some are either misleading or use terminology that is unfamiliar/new/different. There seems to be no logical organization of what information is where. Especially bad is the skill tab. Mousing over something pops up information that is not pertinent and covers up too much of the window so I can't see a lot of other information. For whatever reason, when I open the ship fitting window, it does NOT show me the fitting of the active ship. It always opens to whatever ship I was last looking at. I then have to toggle the open/close simulation mode to get it to display the active ship fit. The fitting window has a bunch of new icons on it which are not obvious in what they represent; the little wrench that is labeled "browser" is the worst terminology blunder I have found so far. It is NOT a browser. It is a SIDEBAR. You're just going to confuse people who remember a browser as being the in-game WEB browser which everyone knows was recently removed from the game all together. Just call it what it is.....a SIDEBAR. Also, what happened to the STRIP FITTING button? I had to hunt around for quite a while I figure out how to strip my modules. Why do you now have two separate clickable areas on the character icon display which used to open different data windows but now both open the same window? Maybe just get rid of the clickable skill queue part of the character icon? Shouldn't the combat log be in the history tab instead of the interactions tab? There is no obvious reason to have it in the interactions tab. As a matter of fact, the interactions tab should only have 1 item in it that cannot be obviously located in another tab by association....so why not just eliminate that tab?

Serenol Marwysgar Imperial Combat Engineers Empire of Arcadia 10	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:51:16 - [411] - Quote Feedback on NPE: I like it. I ran it last night on a new Alpha account. The story was good. The voice acting was sufficient (I've heard worse from lesser games.) The threat and action was good. Overall, it teaches you the basics without having to do a lot of boring reading right from the start. Honestly, if the current Career Agents got this kind of make over, then it would be a very well laid out NPE. My issue is the pacing. There were a couple times when my objective would be 60+ KM away, and my little Ibis doesn't fly that fast. The waiting around to get from Point A to Point B detracted, and immediately conveyed a sense of, "so all EVE is is flying huge distances? Lame. Quit." I was also a little miffed at the ISK rewards. It felt like I was doing a lot of work for not as much gain - no desirable modules (like, even basic Tech 1, or non-reprocessable T1 equilivant gear?), and the small couple hundred thousand was just that - small. I noticed a timing gap between the 'make an analyzer' job to complete and the speed of the text. I might have zoomed ahead, but i almost undocked, forgetting i need the analyzer to complete the job. I was also annoyed that the tutorial didn't go into ship insurance! Such a critical part of the game, would be one small extra line in the NPE, and would net someone something when, at the end, your ship explodes (unexpectedly!) Knowing how to use Ship Insurance would mean I'd feel I got a little something for my "noble" "sacrifice." It would also continue the lesson into the career agents, where you're asked to suicide a couple ships. I head to learn through chat or such to insure my ships before the missions to get, basically, free ISK. Again, small reward for huge emotional gain. The end battle was really cool though! I think, however, the capital at the end needs to actually move (it just kinda rolled around in the same spot for me.) I'm being told to web it to slow it, but there was nothing visible as an effect. Also, turn the HP up and let the NPCs do some of the damage too. The rest of the battle was very well done though (except, as said, the "your ship explodes" at the end. If I'd known that, I'd have not over fitted it, and insured it.) I'd also like to see a change to expand the "how to use the skill queue" window. It asks me to slot one skill that takes almost an hour to complete. Start with something that takes a few minutes, and suggest adding XYZ other skills to get people used to navigating the window and adding more than one thing. Show how the queue works. Lastly, I hope there's some quick follow up to the NPE. I recall seeing a comment before the patch that worried after the NPE, you're dropped right into...well everything. And that was true. It doesn't feel natural that you go from defeating the drifer hive, a huge accomplishment, to the career agents and their.....blow up this pirate. Now come back. No ferry this cargo. Now come back. While I see you were looking to align the NPE to the Alpha clone rollout - I'd have been OK if you'd waited, revammped the entire NPE to gradually build a new player's rewards and more in-depth experience in the various areas of the game (coming out of the NPE, there was a lot I knew that wasn't even mentioned!) before dumping them into the rest of the 'verse. As a new player, I'd fight the drifters, maybe slog through the Career Agents (learning...not that much useful stuff - especially when it comes to 'business' and 'industry'), and then.....? Part of me likes being told what to do - so sending me off to the SoE story arc would be a start at least. Build into that some natural hi-sec cooperation where to complete some mission you need to fleet (no friendly fire) up and take out a target (granted, I hit a wall with SoE over a year ago. While I'm skilled for it now, i've just not yet gone back - so maybe this already is the case). EVE is a big game, and the NPE needs to be proportionally bigger and thorough. It's a great start, just keep building on it.
Bob Hawke Applied Force 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:03:47 - [412] - Quote Terrorfrodo wrote: New Aura sucks, please bring the old back or offer several voice packs like many other games do. New Aura is just like a slightly annoyed and bored woman talking to me. I'm pretty sure EVE players don't need even more of that in their lives :p Old Aura sounded like a nice but synthetic computer voice, which is exactly how my spaceship should talk to me! Completely agree. New voice is seriously annoying.
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 20	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:30:32 - [413] - Quote Genii Cucullati wrote: Ridjobradi wrote: Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!! They were unable to get the original voice actress for Aura. Therefore they had to find a new one. **** happens when you go into production. Give them a break. I would agree with this to an extent however... unless you are using one of the Executives 15 year old kids doing it for free you should have hired voice talent that can emulate voice inflections, phrasings and timing. Any voice actor worth their salt could have emulated the old Aura voice and with proper processing it could have been so close that no one would be bitching about it. As it stands now it sucks.... period, paragraph, end of story.
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 478	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:34:37 - [414] - Quote Do Nut wrote: Please! - Bring back the old voice! - Bring back the separated training queue! - Bring back the "SAVE" button for the training queue! - Bring back the skill points of each skill! - Bring back the rank of each skill! Please! This puts is quite to the point. - Though I don't believe we will get the old voice back, maybe someone can take out some of the highs and squeakiness. Warping a fleet and having multiple toons in that fleet sounds like someone is constantly nagging at me. - The separate skill queue had its foundation in simplicity and functionality, all of which is gone now. Further more, by just checking a few simple numbers, everything is buffered and the frame rate drops down to 1-2, every time. Complexity for complexities sake - over function - never. There should be data available of previous character sheet usage vs skill queue usage and I bet a Plex that the difference was more then 10%/90%, where cpu load was the opposite, like 90%/10%. Not sure why you need 'add to skill queue' when you can just drag it down... not a dominant issue, but it demonstrates how cluttered and over designed tool tips became. Drag and drop + save button or separate window and 'add' function. Not being able to see the progress of partially trained skills (and the SP) is a big miss, one icon and a mouse over timer is doing none a favor. - Another issue I have is (and which has been brought up before release - see JonnyPew), that as an Omega I still see all items marked yellow for Alpha clones. Every time I open a container, wreck or inventory, everything looks like I am committing a criminal act. This is not acceptable. If you get use to ignore the yellow warning edges and have your safety set to yellow or red, you will by accident commit 'crimes' and become suspect or worse. I waited till the first post expansion patch to see if it got addressed, but no - FIX IT NAO! - One more thing I would like to see (and will mention in the specified thread) is, that I would like to see a check box for the new fleet boost animations. For certain characters or fleet role I want to seem them (need to), but under normal conditions they just mess up and clutter everything, especially if you use (like most I guess) multiple screens. And tyhough the looks quite ok from farther away, just moderately zoomed in, they become very unattractive (blurred, rough pixels) and disturb the beautiful view of deep space ,) Now, even if we won-¦t get a specific on/off option, I think this can be remedied by speeding up the animation and adding more transparency, maybe eve a bit contrast so it won't blur so much, but is rather distinct but 'thinner' if that makes any sense. -An issues, which probably is now pass+¬, was/is the e-mail verification/authentication. This was just plain stupid. As many mentioned before, some e-mail addresses were unused, lost or with missing passwords. This should have been considered before pushing the new system live. And yes, I myself saw the notification early and checked before the release. My e-mails were verified (and payment accounts and credit card etc ...) which should have been enough. But I was forced to do it again... and even though everything was verified in the account settings before, I could not log in to one of my old email accounts for the authentication rubbish, wrong password, even though I had it written down, so I assumed the e-mail account was removed and lost. In the end I managed, after a lot of tries, to access it again and verify my eve account... And the last mail I had in the mailbox was from my eve registration -¦-¦ Cheers o7 PS: As I mentioned during another release, usually everything not complained about is fine, and I love the new explosions, though there seems to be some audio stutter. So don't feel all bashed. Join the BIG Lottery (see Bio ingame), oldest and only non-profit Lottery in EVE, every second Monday. Wire ISK to BIG GAMES for tickets ! Join the Channel, have fun, being a lucky winner is optional ,)
Ueli Toni EVE University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:43:10 - [415] - Quote Anna Maria Yolo wrote: CCP guys, I'm getting angry. Yesterday I received the following information while trying log-in: https://zapodaj.net/561c5268a2ca6.jpg.html I cannot log in on the few, but not all accounts connected to this address email. I have got frozen assets from my indusrty line on one of these accounts. Without one of these accounts all my industrial chars are useless. I maintain active accounts, but cannot use them. Please tell me deadline of a very complicated task - sending a verification code at the gmail address. I know that not all the providers are able to send the email at the gmail address, but I'm sure that in the whole world there are at least a few who still can do this very specialized work. I'm really angry, because last time I waited 90 days for your response and fixing the obvious mistake. That problem reffered to one of my toons. This one affects all my accounts not toon and a compensation (sorry man, here is 14 days of game time as a compensation) will be insufficient, because I just cannot set the training queue, use cerebral accelerators and use assets frozen on these accounts. I second this. Not necessarily the tone, but could anyone PLEASE comment on the errors around sending/receiving emails? - some emails arrive delayed (from 15 minutes to hours) - some GMAIL (!) accounts are not able to receive verification codes? and please provide a timeline for fixes on these issues. getting updates on minor issues around cosmetics is frustrating, while there are no news on issues that keep people from logging in. thanks
Sarina Aideron Aideron Corp 29	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:44:45 - [416] - Quote What have you done to Aura? She sounds generic and human now. The old one was way better! Bring it back!
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 414	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:44:54 - [417] - Quote Sterling Paradox wrote: Raw Matters wrote: Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: CCPlease, I'll make you a deal. I don't get you guys. Why would you want to make a deal with someone you pay for doing something you want? That's like telling a car dealer "Ok the car doesn't work, but if you give me a free car wash I'll let it slip." That's not how it works. You are not a slave to CCP. You are not obliged to pay for this game. It is the other way around: they are obliged to deliver a game that you consider worth paying for. You are very much allowed to make demands when you hand them your monthly fee and with that essentially pay a fraction of their salary. And if they do something that offends the majority of the players, then you politely say "Thank you, but no thanks. Now fix it." And if they refuse to change it back, you in response refuse to pay them any further. And if they realize you are serious about your demands, things suddenly change. Because: guess how many people at CCP will receive a salary in December if all players spontaneously quit. Totally agree. I already let my 4 accounts lapse because I refiuse to pay money for the privilidge of looking at the new skill window. xD Couple reasons I'm taking this method for change. 1. Pointing out that driving off paying customers has not made much of a dent in the wall of current business-customer interaction practices. 2. Offering trades in the spirit of Trade Hubs, maybe using something more ingame will get better results? Maybe some of these decisions to not use customer feedback is a language and culture barrier. So I'll try to New Eden Speak my way to clarification. 3. One of my accounts remains inactive in any clone state until older promises are fulfilled. Doing my part to impact a financial bottom line already. 4. And that I shouldn't have to descend to wheeling and dealing to get a business to work on it's business model but that's what's happening. Demonstration in both object lessons and what happens when a business gets a bit... big for it's britches, so to speak. Going to stop there on reasons. From here it wouldn't stay polite or constructive. Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 13:47:25 - [418] - Quote General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....?
Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2016.11.16 14:01:18 - [419] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable.
General Lynch Fire Ridge Holdings 14	Posted - 2016.11.16 14:12:37 - [420] - Quote Benevolant Khan wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything.

Rapala Armiron Arton Yachting and Angling Club Domain Research and Mining Inst. 43	Posted - 2016.11.16 14:35:52 - [421] - Quote You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again. I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?" Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game. TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so.
Rhyme Bittern Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 15	Posted - 2016.11.16 14:45:42 - [422] - Quote Please redo Aura's voice. We do not necessarily require the old one back, but we need a voice that sounds professional, clear, smooth and soothing - our only friend in galaxy full of predators. The current implementation is harsh, fast, unclear and extremely impersonal. The sound is also oddly choppy. It's as if some CCP employee recorded his sister using a webcam.
Algarion Getz Aideron Corp 225	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:00:52 - [423] - Quote Bob Hawke wrote: Terrorfrodo wrote: New Aura sucks, please bring the old back or offer several voice packs like many other games do. New Aura is just like a slightly annoyed and bored woman talking to me. I'm pretty sure EVE players don't need even more of that in their lives :p Old Aura sounded like a nice but synthetic computer voice, which is exactly how my spaceship should talk to me! Completely agree. New voice is seriously annoying. I agree too! I played only a few hourse, but i already had to turn off UI speech sound because she gets annoying so fast.
Carneros Ancient Hittite Corporation The Bastion 24	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:01:04 - [424] - Quote Launcher might need more testing with multiple accounts. I'm finding it loses all saved accounts except one overnight. At least as I add them back in it is not asking me to validate them all again. I did them all the night before the patch, then had to do them all again the morning of the patch. Preparation in advance didn't actually affect anything despite the community service announcement.
Mia Coldheart Teutate raiders The-Culture 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:04:48 - [425] - Quote I think we need an option to choose if we want the old one or the new one, simple ! Everyone will be happy. I think even if the new voice and acting will be better, the majority of vet players will choose Aura's old voice... Aura is the soul of Eve !! CCP please DO IT !!!
Belthazor4011 The Bacon Who Loved Me The Bacon Empire 289	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:14:16 - [426] - Quote Rapala Armiron wrote: You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again. I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?" Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game. TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so. Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1225	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:38:47 - [427] - Quote Belthazor4011 wrote: Rapala Armiron wrote: You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again. I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?" Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game. TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so. Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work. Unfortunately (for players) the new Aura voice and especially the jumble called a character sheet are just more examples of how out of touch Devs are with their customers. Eve is becoming the game I play when there is just nothing else to do. Which is a shame as it used to be what I did instead of just about everything else. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 2610	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:43:15 - [428] - Quote Sgt Ocker wrote: Eve is becoming the game I play when there is just nothing else to do. But you do manage to put in some long, long hours of endless complaining on the forums, regardless. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Saol Tareis Bas Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:43:32 - [429] - Quote Do Nut wrote: Please! - Bring back the old voice! - Bring back the separated training queue! - Bring back the "SAVE" button for the training queue! - Bring back the skill points of each skill! - Bring back the rank of each skill! Please! And thank you: - The simulation mode is great! - The fitting browser is great too! I wish good luck to you. Changing the login and security algorithms at the same day, when the rush of the alphas will start, is a very bad decision. What this guy said. Very much this.
Saol Tareis Bas Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 15:54:56 - [430] - Quote General Lynch wrote: Benevolant Khan wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints.

Erik Kalkoken VOLTAGE REGULATORS No Handlebars. 36	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:02:57 - [431] - Quote I feel a new item on the New Eden Store coming soon: "Aura classic voice add-on" Alliance Facebok page - Check out my blog - Find me on zKillboard
Edward Olmops Gunboat Commando 352	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:09:45 - [432] - Quote Belthazor4011 wrote: Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work. OK, we don't know each other. For the record: I like the new warp tunnel, the new map, the new scanner and as far as I could see yesterday the new character sheet is also an improvement. It's much clearer to see which skills you already have and which ones are missing. Also, bragging with the sum of all ranks per category was not possible before. That alone entertained us few vets for awhile. :-D And EVE definitely needs LESS windows that can be independently resized, clutter the screen and randomly stack/resize with other windows if your mouse actions are a bit clumsy. (still, Aura... :-/)
Ruthbar Thuggee 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:22:17 - [433] - Quote Uhhh scary...... Star Captain SKIN...... I was under the impression EVE has no references at all to RL national colors and symbols. Clearly no longer true. I would love my Jump Freighter in Green-White-Gold and a Shamrock on the side :-) Have FuN! Ruthbar
Rapala Armiron Arton Yachting and Angling Club Domain Research and Mining Inst. 50	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:22:18 - [434] - Quote Edward Olmops wrote: Belthazor4011 wrote: Same, turned it all off as well (same as EVERYONE else I know in the game btw). And I agree that the new Character page is a total over designed pain in the ass that does not work. OK, we don't know each other. For the record: I like the new warp tunnel, the new map, the new scanner and as far as I could see yesterday the new character sheet is also an improvement. It's much clearer to see which skills you already have and which ones are missing. Also, bragging with the sum of all ranks per category was not possible before. That alone entertained us few vets for awhile. :-D And EVE definitely needs LESS windows that can be independently resized, clutter the screen and randomly stack/resize with other windows if your mouse actions are a bit clumsy. (still, Aura... :-/) Well - there is always one
Shaana Mistique Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:23:45 - [435] - Quote The new voices are ****, at least give us an option to keep the old one... Now it seems like it was "here girl grab that mic, say whats on this list, add some effect on it and there we go. All done in 5 minutes..." derp.. Maybe add something like more different voices, i mean, not every ship has the same "voice software" right ? Also stop "fixing" things that arent broken... omg !! It only adds more empty checkboxes in the settings menu.. Then i opened my skillque and tadaa, waaay more buttons then needed when just want to drag and drop skills to my que from a list i can easily scroll through. If i wanted to see my whole character sheet ill just click the character icon above it tyvm CCPlz.. U did do something right tho, ship explosions are pretty now =)
Yann Lafisques Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:25:41 - [436] - Quote Since we are to be stuck with these awful mining boost changes, It would be nice if we could get a couple minor changes in regards to mining drones: 1. Please bump down the bandwidth usage of Ice Harvester Drones down to 30mbit from 50, so that our Orcas may be allowed to also launch a few combat drones. Lowering to 30mbit would still prevent launching 2 ice harvester drones, as you seem to intend, while allowing us to fend off attackers with a few hobgoblins. 2. Please increase the travel speed of Ice Harvester Drones. I understand that you don't want us to have "insta-travel" drones, but ice fields are very wide. Some ice asteroids are easily 15-30km away and the Ice Harvester Drones are painfully slow. Added with the already slow Orca speed, it takes a long while to get in range to alleviate the drone travel delays. 3. Could we have a drone mining command shortcut key, or add "mining" to the existing "F" shortcut key for attack/salvage drones? It know it doesn't sound like much, but having to go to the drone window, right click on the mining drone and select "mine repeatedly" gets a little annoying after a while, when a simple key press could do the same thing.
Maddison Lynch Nexneo Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:26:09 - [437] - Quote Saol Tareis Bas wrote: General Lynch wrote: Benevolant Khan wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints. This!
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1942	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:29:08 - [438] - Quote Ruthbar wrote: Uhhh scary...... Star Captain SKIN...... I was under the impression EVE has no references at all to RL national colors and symbols. Clearly no longer true. I would love my Jump Freighter in Green-White-Gold and a Shamrock on the side :-) Have FuN! Ruthbar They have to try to distract players from this ~~fail~~ "Expansion" The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 658	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:33:52 - [439] - Quote Yay! Been over 24 hours since I can't access one of my accounts because of the awesome last minute 2FA switch! Support planning on getting this resolved any time soon or can I expect game time since I'm being denied that and job time as that acct has jobs finished as well or are we just gonna get a giant bite of the **** sandwich? The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Malachir Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:43:34 - [440] - Quote Having played for a while since the change, I find as a miner that one handy skill has clearly been dropped. I can no longer click on an asteroid in space to target. I have to use the overview instead. How did you manage to break this? Still finding new Aura annoying. Please use the original files where possible, and a decent recording for all the new stuff. It can't be that difficult. Tried to use the skillpage again. Tried is the operative word. This is no longer an instinctive scan of information, or ease of scrolling through large amount of information. Was this tested by any long term players at all? Are any of the designers of this actually players of this game? Oh wait, don't answer that. I say that because you didn't answer it the last time it was asked...or the time before. My patience with the half-arsed implementation of substandard 'updates' is beginning to wear thin. Weirdly enough, I was going to use an alt in alpha mode...up until the point where I find he can fly Amarr only...with somewhat limited usefulness. Ah well. Nevermind..

Staten Island Diversity 101 The Volition Cult 51	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:44:53 - [441] - Quote There are way too many ec rigs. Also why are they rigs in the first place? The market changes all the time - so if the market tanks on what I'm making - i'm supposed to adapt by stripping out my expensive t2 rigs and replacing them with something else?
The Hate Nexneo Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:45:32 - [442] - Quote General Lynch wrote: Benevolant Khan wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. That must be it !!!! 12 years here and i love the game but new voice SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Samuella II The Destined 11	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:57:19 - [443] - Quote New Icons for Omega items in hangars looks just like tech 2 . I cannot find items anymore. At least not as quick. This was untested and its unneeded feature. At least remove those icons for Omega. I dont want to see icons that mean nothing to me and mess with my cargo hold and hangars visibility.
Voxinian 124	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:57:21 - [444] - Quote Shaana Mistique wrote: U did do something right tho, ship explosions are pretty now =) If only you could look at them up close for the screenshots. They did something with the camera and it doesn't stay focussed (long enough) on the ship that is about to explode. Just when you start to see the pretty explosion the camera turns back to your won ship.
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 1116	Posted - 2016.11.16 16:59:30 - [445] - Quote The skill groups in the new and 'improved' character sheet don't sort by alphabetical order. You changed Leadership skills to Fleet Support but didn't change the name on the market. Your game patches make you look like amateurs. Not today spaghetti.
Sahola Elva PURE FW 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:01:58 - [446] - Quote The new training queue display is a step back The old display was clear and simple. Split vertically it allowed the player to view a substantial part, if not all, of the training queue. This allowed easy and rapid checking of the skills queued for training, together with easy reordering or deletion of the same. The left half showed all of the categories of skills, in alphabetical order. Clicking the title of the category provided a list of the skills available for training, along with other helpful information. The new display is now fixed, and horizontally split. The number of viewable skills in the queue is severely limited by the presence of the other two sections. If I want to see the available skills in the category I need to reduce the view of the training queue. If I wish to see the queue I need to restrict the view of the category's skills. The list of categories is always in the way; that can't be pushed to one side. If I wanted to stack the old character and training windows I could; now that option is denied me. The new setup is not as user-friendly as the old one, which I'd like returned.
Calynus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:05:32 - [447] - Quote I can't understand how CCP can "fix" a ton of things that weren't really broken (RIP Aura :P) yet we still don't have the ability to properly micromanage our drones. We've been waiting for that functionality for eons now.
Keaden Aemar 4 Marketeers Rura-Penthe 11	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:06:30 - [448] - Quote Sahola Elva wrote: The new training queue display is a step back The old display was clear and simple. Split vertically it allowed the player to view a substantial part, if not all, of the training queue. This allowed easy and rapid checking of the skills queued for training, together with easy reordering or deletion of the same. The left half showed all of the categories of skills, in alphabetical order. Clicking the title of the category provided a list of the skills available for training, along with other helpful information. The new display is now fixed, and horizontally split. The number of viewable skills in the queue is severely limited by the presence of the other two sections. If I want to see the available skills in the category I need to reduce the view of the training queue. If I wish to see the queue I need to restrict the view of the category's skills. The list of categories is always in the way; that can't be pushed to one side. If I wanted to stack the old character and training windows I could; now that option is denied me. The new setup is not as user-friendly as the old one, which I'd like returned. They should make the training que a slide out side panel similar to the fitting window
Egsise Special Boat Service. Zombie Ninja Space Bears 10	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:06:51 - [449] - Quote I didn't log in on 15th but waited for a day and on 16th after the downtime I logged in. No issues, alpha clone works, old account works, 2FA works. I really miss the old wormhole activation sound from 2012 or so, wspace hasn't been what it used to be after it was changed. As a paying customer I demand that you change it back to what it used to be. Just kidding, shut up and take my money. But I'm cancelling my auto-billing AGAIN because it's just wrong that it always switches on when I pay my sub.
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:17:56 - [450] - Quote + Changes made to the interface itself is nice. It seems more intuitive, especially the skill training and fitting. + Effects of ship explosions are absolutely amazing and pleasant to watch. - The Omega icons are confusing. They should not be visible if a player is a subscriber. They are basically useless and there should be an option to disable them. - New Aura voice is absolutely terrible. Many people are unhappy about it. It's fast, flat, oversimplified, sounds like a busy receptionist who doesn't have time to deal with you and really gives the impression of being done by amateurs. Original Aura voice was comfortable, smooth, warm, calming and relaxing. A pleasant companion on your travels through the dark space. The new voice is an absolute garbage and many people including myself have muted it because it's plain annoying. Why change something that was good and replaced it with this garbage, this I can't understand. Please bring the old Aura voice back. At least introduce an option to switch to it for ISK or real currency. Listening to this new improved thing makes me wanna punch someone. Lack of the old Aura voice makes the space so much more empty.

Manssell OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate Together We Solo 314	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:33:40 - [451] - Quote Inir Ishtori wrote: Instead of letting your UI experts messing up perfectly fine interfaces, it would have been a really good idea to force them to create a better drone interface so we can actually have buttons for attack, return, orbit etc. Thanks realizing they could have put those hours to fixing the damn drone interface everyone hates, instead of what they did to the character one that no one was complaining about until now, just made me sad....
xRazoRx Disassembly workshop Out of Sight. 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 17:48:13 - [452] - Quote New aura. It's really bad. First they came for the DCU, then they came for the jukebox and ingame browser...
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 76	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:05:48 - [453] - Quote Following my own advice I just canceled my subscription with reason "Aura voice" Let's see what happens.
Gogela Heh... 3366	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:06:09 - [454] - Quote Lothar Mandrake wrote: Gogela wrote: Keep the new Aura voice. Now that I have it I realize my old ship computers were just drunk for all of those years. The new voice is better. No A.I. in any science fiction series sounded like this new Aura. Dump the new speed talking **** and give us back strong and confident Aura. This isn't some other sci-fi. If my boosters are good enough for me they're good enough for everyone. Ain't nobody got time for old Aura's drawl... Signatures should be used responsibly...
xRazoRx Disassembly workshop Out of Sight. 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:14:00 - [455] - Quote Gogela wrote: Lothar Mandrake wrote: Gogela wrote: Keep the new Aura voice. Now that I have it I realize my old ship computers were just drunk for all of those years. The new voice is better. No A.I. in any science fiction series sounded like this new Aura. Dump the new speed talking **** and give us back strong and confident Aura. This isn't some other sci-fi. If my boosters are good enough for me they're good enough for everyone. Ain't nobody got time for old Aura's drawl... Why invoke sci-fi when there are perfect IRL examples like Rita and Bitching Betty?
Kailiani Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:15:20 - [456] - Quote I didn't know much of anything about this patch except for the fact its going f2p with alpha/omega states. So I've loaded up the client to play, ya know...? Then I open my character sheet and I'm immediately off put, I look through it for a minute or two... and then I close it, not wanting to go through that mess. I put that in the back of my mind, thinking 'No way CCP will keep that UI, I bet a lot of complaints are on the forum already'. After that I un-dock and hear the new Aura voice. What a travesty! Aura to me was a major part of Eve, I'm sure it was for others also. CCP, Aura does not need to be part of the tutorial. Make a new tutorial character or something. This shouldn't be a hard fix, you can even use the voice you already made for it. Also, if there is not an apology from the DEV that simply said 'Nope' to another post... well I'm not sure if I'll be remaining even if everything else is addressed. That's simply not acceptable. Locking everything in a single post like this is appalling as well, most of the threads in general are locked. Just let your player base say whats on their mind. Locking so much opinion and feedback just shows utter disrespect.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 219	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:15:48 - [457] - Quote Raw Matters wrote: Following my own advice I just canceled my subscription with reason "Aura voice" Let's see what happens. Short answer, Nothing Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ. As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen. @dominousnolen
Mister Ripley Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 247	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:16:06 - [458] - Quote Can anyone tell me how to enable the character portrait in the top area of the new character shiet, please? I just want to see how it looks... :/
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 219	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:22:51 - [459] - Quote Mister Ripley wrote: Can anyone tell me how to enable the character portrait in the top area of the new character shiet, please? I just want to see how it looks... :/ Question: Do you see the faction icons at the top and your racial space background? or do you have any arrows in the upper right just below the pin options? I had the same thing on two of my accounts where the character image just won't show, only the background and icons. If you have this, log a bug for it. @dominousnolen
Edward Olmops Gunboat Commando 353	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:24:47 - [460] - Quote Okay, after docking/undocking and warping a dozen of times to find out.... maybe ... maybe it's not that bad. Docking request accepted sounds fine to me. Also if I try to set the same location twice. Warp drive still upsets me but well... the human race has adapted to other things. Lets see how it feels in a week.

Erasmus Ronuken Metacrania Vanguard of the Phoenix 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:25:48 - [461] - Quote Great Deployment of Patch. However, Bring back Old Aura Voice Please.. that was the essence of EVE. Also, Why can't I see my portrait on my Main account in the Character Sheet? That little arrow on the top right to expand is missing. WHen can we expect the news ship gift? Keep well.
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 5	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:27:08 - [462] - Quote Dominous Nolen wrote: Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ. As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen. No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 219	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:27:09 - [463] - Quote Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: Snip! Dominous Nolen wrote: Snip! The undocking of ponderous animation is still tagged to Dynamic Camera Movement. Considering the long delay then silence on fixing some lingering complaints on the New Camera, it might be a while before it's divorced from that checkmark toggle. Wasn't the other workaround involving zooming camera range? There may have been someting, but why do we have to deal with a feature that isn't fully controlable and find a work around. The new camera went live at the start of the year if not earlier. How is it still not addressed. The team is working on a lot, I get it. but at the point it feels like they are leaving stuff on the back burner and never going back to address player concerns. @dominousnolen
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:27:18 - [464] - Quote Here is the original thread about the "new" Aura voice.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6711581 It was rudely commented on by the Dev then locked. Unacceptable.
xRazoRx Disassembly workshop Out of Sight. 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:31:25 - [465] - Quote Dominous Nolen wrote: The new camera went live at the start of the year if not earlier. How is it still not addressed. Oh god, that. Having to adjust FOV back to comfortable zone every_single_time can be considered an improvement only at CCP.
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 483	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:34:01 - [466] - Quote Rapala Armiron wrote: You added a warp tunnel. I learned to ignore it. You added a "new" map. I turned it off. You added a "new" scanner. I turned it off. You added a "new" camera. I turned it off. Then when you made it mandatory, I joined in the threadnought clamoring for a toggle. Upon introduction of that toggle I turned it off again. I am not unique in the above actions. Most of the players I know have done the same. There is clearly something wrong, when you keep turning out products that the first reaction of your core users is "how do I disable this?" Now you have added a new Character page. This character page is a significant reduction in the quality of life for the players. You have simply crammed too much needless crap into a single window. As a result you have hampered the ability of the players to use the page for its core purpose - managing the skill queue. The skill queue and the skill page need to be in separate resizeable windows - like they used to be - so they can be put side by side when worked with. There is simply way too much scrolling having to be done now because you cant fit enough of the queue on the small monitors that your players typically use - as opposed to those big dev monitors that you have in your offices. And, what is it with the font? It is so small as to be almost unreadable. Have you learned nothing from the complaints of the past? The tool tips also need to go. Having them pop up every time you hoover over something is annoying as fk since it masks everything below it - and no long playing vet needs the information in the tooltips. It is simply not good design to overload your players with a lot of bells, whistles, and flashy lights while simultaneously masking all of the important game features that are necessary to actually play the game. TL/DR - either give me back the old character sheet and skill queue or split out the skill queue into a separate window and for the love of Bob - either significantly increase the size of the font or allow for the players to do so. "I am one of those". I always promote effectiveness over complexity and efficiency over 'design'/look. New is rarely better and more is often less. A true artist knows when to stop at a certain point and at realize when he is going to destroy/distort his art. That said, I also see a tendency to hold players by the hand too much and screwing training wheels on every corner, there is a difference of guiding new players and carrying them, while force feeding older players. The option to explore the game and mechanics is pushed aside to explore fixed content, which is minimal in this game anyway. Players learn by exploring the game, most of all, they learn to learn, the information available is overwhelming and corrupts society. And here is where I will drift into general observations. The age of technology has given rise to the information flood via access and diminished the ability to actually test and verify its authenticity because the selected information is in most cases is always biased from the beginning. Exploring, testing, coming up with a hypothesis, confirming and breaking it is pushed aside not not learned (programmed into the brain) if the push of a button or few keys will give you an answer. An answer, independent of validity and correctness; and trusted, because people lose (or never gained) the ability to distinguish good from bad information or true from false. in the end the fallacy of an 'argument from authority' gets enforced. In short, let players figure out how to get around, don't hide information, but also don't push it on people. The most important thing you can learn is how to learn, gather information and evaluate them, forget the 'having knowledge' principle of society and bad schools. Anyone who thinks he is getting an objective response to a search on the internet is delusional (unless for the first time from a new pc a fresh reinstall and new ip maybe). Every search is already biased from the get go, thanks to the engine and your hidden profile. You have to train yourself, your brain, to overcome the bias and training wheels of your environment, and what better way is there than play or games. Damn, didn't want to rant -¦-¦ Join the BIG Lottery (see Bio ingame), oldest and only non-profit Lottery in EVE, every second Monday. Wire ISK to BIG GAMES for tickets ! Join the Channel, have fun, being a lucky winner is optional ,)
Corporeal Universalis The Scope Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:42:20 - [467] - Quote Raw Matters wrote: Following my own advice I just canceled my subscription with reason "Aura voice" Let's see what happens. I just cancelled my subscription with reason "Aura voice changed." as I was forced to turn it off, and I am now missing on various messages. EVE without Aura, is not EVE. So if Aura doesn't come back, I will not either.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 219	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:42:39 - [468] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? Wow. He just straight up noped feedback? We're paying players, atleast take what we're saying under advise me please. @dominousnolen
Silen Talker EVE University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:49:13 - [469] - Quote Loving the new interface, explosions, character sheet, general info etc and all slickly delivered - result. Minor improvements - maybe have one of those minimise "V" arrows on each section of the char sheet (like is on the top section) most the time I don't care about the "My skills" section = more interested in what I have not yet got - ie the queue That's all - Thankyou.
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 5	Posted - 2016.11.16 18:50:45 - [470] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Here is the original thread about the "new" Aura voice.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6711581 It was rudely commented on by the Dev then locked. Unacceptable. That "Nope" just made me wonder if I trusted my money to the right people. It's not good for PR to give such answers to your customers. I mean, he could have said "We are sorry, but for reasons <...> we won't be bringing old Aura voice back. We are hoping that you will get used to the new one and enjoy our game." But they replied with "nope" instead.

Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 220	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:05:39 - [471] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Dominous Nolen wrote: Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ. As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen. No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that. Unlike most of the folks on this thread I actually don't mind her, they just need to slow her down alittle. I won't pay them for something that did not need a massive overhaul. It's bad enough that at times it feels like I'm a paying beta tester. Don't get me wrong, I love this game, but at times the functionality changes that come down the pipe that aren't feature complete drive me batshit. Things have been removed with out a replacement or minimal follow up; Examples: Tab Key functionality removed General Camera Feedback -Still waiting for a custom tracking position to bring us to parity. @dominousnolen
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 220	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:08:53 - [472] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: Here is the original thread about the "new" Aura voice.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6711581 It was rudely commented on by the Dev then locked. Unacceptable. That "Nope" just made me wonder if I trusted my money to the right people. It's not good for PR to give such answers to your customers. I mean, he could have said "We are sorry, but for reasons <...> we won't be bringing old Aura voice back. We are hoping that you will get used to the new one and enjoy our game." But they replied with "nope" instead. Nope - Not good at all.. I mean I get it, we can be straight up mean at times when something happens we don't like and as a result the dev team probably straight up doesn't like dealing with the player base online, however if the community manager pushes back that way when we have a legit argument to a change (albeit due to people not liking change) it does no one any favours and only gets the community more upset. We can't make change in the game if our feedback isn't being listened too, at the end of the day we're all here to play a game and we want to see everyone happy... Just my two cents. @dominousnolen
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 5	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:18:50 - [473] - Quote Dominous Nolen wrote: Nope - Not good at all.. I mean I get it, we can be straight up mean at times when something happens we don't like and as a result the dev team probably straight up doesn't like dealing with the player base online, however if the community manager pushes back that way when we have a legit argument to a change (albeit due to people not liking change) it does no one any favours and only gets the community more upset. We can't make change in the game if our feedback isn't being listened too, at the end of the day we're all here to play a game and we want to see everyone happy... Just my two cents. I myself am well acquainted with game industry and PR, so when I have seen this response I got the impression, that they either don't give a crap as long as they get money, or they just hired some newbies who have no idea about community management and PR.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 220	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:30:12 - [474] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Dominous Nolen wrote: I myself am well acquainted with game industry and PR, so when I have seen this response I got the impression, that they either don't give a crap as long as they get money, or they just hired some newbies who have no idea about community management and PR. Ya, I work in customer support myself and I talked to paying customers in a negative way I'd be immediately reprimanded or dismissed. @dominousnolen
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:33:26 - [475] - Quote Dominous Nolen wrote: Calaeus Fira wrote: Dominous Nolen wrote: I myself am well acquainted with game industry and PR, so when I have seen this response I got the impression, that they either don't give a crap as long as they get money, or they just hired some newbies who have no idea about community management and PR. Ya, I work in customer support myself and I talked to paying customers that way I'd be straight up reprimanded or dismissed. I sent the Dev in question a mail. If anyone else wants to take this further here is the profile of the Dev in question: CCP Falcon https://forums.eveonline.com/profile/CCP%20Falcon
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 416	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:38:27 - [476] - Quote Dominous Nolen wrote: Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: Snip! Dominous Nolen wrote: Snip! The undocking of ponderous animation is still tagged to Dynamic Camera Movement. Considering the long delay then silence on fixing some lingering complaints on the New Camera, it might be a while before it's divorced from that checkmark toggle. Wasn't the other workaround involving zooming camera range? There may have been someting, but why do we have to deal with a feature that isn't fully controlable and find a work around. The new camera went live at the start of the year if not earlier. How is it still not addressed. The team is working on a lot, I get it. but at the point it feels like they are leaving stuff on the back burner and never going back to address player concerns. Stuff doesn't seem to be left on back burners then somewhat forgotten to finish. Stuff DOES get tossed to the side then ignored for the foreseeable future. Personalized tracking added to the new camera is just one of the things falling through the cracks. At this point I'm very convinced CCP has bought it's own hype. Alas, companies don't do well long term when their customer interaction devolves to HTFU, instead of keeping that just in the gameplay mentality. What's ironic is how many outside Eve believe CCP offers above and beyond excellent customer interaction and service. Their bubble's on it's way to bursting if they continue to shut down any voice that doesn't agree with some Vision. Now there's F2P. So we don't have to automatically pay and 'reward' CCP's customer interactions and decisions. Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 222	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:48:44 - [477] - Quote Jeven HouseBenyo wrote: What's ironic is how many outside Eve believe CCP offers above and beyond excellent customer interaction and service. Their bubble's on it's way to bursting if they continue to shut down any voice that doesn't agree with some Vision. Now there's F2P. So we don't have to automatically pay and 'reward' CCP's customer interactions and decisions. Well I will say one thing about CCP as a collective whole, their dev team does have good interactions with the community via Twitch, discord and slack for the most part. There are obviously times where things aren't great and the community and players butt heads, but I'll honesty admit that I've got a few devs I would happily buy a beer if I went to fanfest again. @dominousnolen
Gabriel Mac Eoghain Nexneo Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 20:18:19 - [478] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: Here is the original thread about the "new" Aura voice.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6711581 It was rudely commented on by the Dev then locked. Unacceptable. That "Nope" just made me wonder if I trusted my money to the right people. It's not good for PR to give such answers to your customers. I mean, he could have said "We are sorry, but for reasons <...> we won't be bringing old Aura voice back. We are hoping that you will get used to the new one and enjoy our game." But they replied with "nope" instead. this
Gabriel Mac Eoghain Nexneo Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 20:23:59 - [479] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Dominous Nolen wrote: Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ. As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen. No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that. Why should we pay for something they broke
Eirene Jitacheck Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 20:24:48 - [480] - Quote Another vote to bring back Aura. At the very least, slow it down, take it down a bit in pitch, and add some reverb or something.

AnzacPaul Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 121	Posted - 2016.11.16 20:38:21 - [481] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Dominous Nolen wrote: Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ. As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen. No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that. You are everything that is wrong with gaming these days.
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 10	Posted - 2016.11.16 20:44:16 - [482] - Quote AnzacPaul wrote: Calaeus Fira wrote: Dominous Nolen wrote: Long answer: CCP probably won't revert the voice due to the scope of the NPE changes. Aside from the fact she's alittle fast at times I've learned to deal with the change on SISI and now on TQ. As much as we want to get this back, sorry folks its probably not gonna happen. No amount of revolt on the forums will be probably sway their minds to be honest. There have been alot of changes over the years that haven't worked out as intended. CCP has a great opportunity to earn additional $ if they at least introduce old Aura voice for real cash. Honestly, I would even pay 5-10$ for that. You are everything that is wrong with gaming these days. Oh, am I now? I am just sane enough to see that they won't won't revert this change unless they can profit from it. Every big company these days cares about nothing but money. We're small moneybags for those giants. "Nope" response perfectly visualize how much does their community/customers satisfaction mean to them.
Dazzlin Flame Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 20:47:13 - [483] - Quote So, I have some problems with the new Aura voice, and some suggestions on what could be done to improve it. This game has always been one of the most relaxing games I have ever played. The visuals, sounds, voice, and music all played together to create this perception of absolute tranquility. Sadly however this new aura is completely out of place in this tranquil universe. She speaks too quickly and with too much urgency. Imagine a star trek scene if you would. Your the captain of your ship and your sitting back in your chair, sipping on some tea as you command your ship. Old aura was like a Vulcan, no emotion or passion in her voice. She was calming and added to this sense of tranquility. Even in the most dire circumstances she was always calm. Now replace her with this new voice, and rather than the calm vulcan that adds to the serenity of your ship, you have this new ensign who panicks over the slightest thing. She disrupts the calm of your ship with every word she says, and there is never any calm in her voice. Yes you can shut her up, but then the universe around you is even more lonely than it was before. My suggestion on how the new aura can be improved is simple. Guide the actor to be calm and relaxed. Speak slowly as if she rarely gets to say anything and she wants every word to count. As an additional point, I notice that whoever did the sound tried to replicate the reverberating sound of the old Aura. But sadly this new Aura just sounds muffled. I truly hope you can fix aura's voice to be less annoying, as like I said, space is lonelier now without Aura talking to me.
Sterling Paradox Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:17:46 - [484] - Quote Saol Tareis Bas wrote: General Lynch wrote: Benevolant Khan wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints. They don't care if any of us stay. All they care about are potential future customers.
Lyra Cho The Cult of the Autocannon 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:19:55 - [485] - Quote Manssell wrote: Inir Ishtori wrote: Instead of letting your UI experts messing up perfectly fine interfaces, it would have been a really good idea to force them to create a better drone interface so we can actually have buttons for attack, return, orbit etc. Thanks realizing they could have put those hours to fixing the damn drone interface everyone hates, instead of what they did to the character one that no one was complaining about until now, just made me sad.... +1 There's a lot of things they could have fixed instead of giving us that disaster of a UI.
Serena Corrino Proximity Breach 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:28:19 - [486] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Here is the original thread about the "new" Aura voice.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6711581 It was rudely commented on by the Dev then locked. Unacceptable. That thread is like a minature version of how any criticism of any of CCP's bad ideas plays out. People complain about it being a poor change, hastily executed --> CCP ignores all complaints and goes into turtle mode.
Kenrailae The Scope Gallente Federation 658	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:31:05 - [487] - Quote Yeah, lovin' the responses CCP is providing in this thread.... The Law is a point of View The NPE IS a big deal
Trinica fey 13. Enigma Project 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:40:29 - [488] - Quote CCP please help, I'm struggling and worried about your new take on omega clone state. Firstly I understand with eve now being f2p you guys need to put in marketing ploys too keep getting new sub and keeping old subs subbed. my main issue is the x2 training speed its telling me i'm getting in the bottom left of my training queue, i mean really ccp not like alpha is so op i stop subbing to play alpha i mean its great for getting new people in the game but reminding me everytime i look at my skill queue that i'm gifted with this x2 training speed is out right rediculous i'v already decided i wanted to sub (or plex) for omega please stop reminding me i'm on of the lucky individuals who thinks this game is worth 9.99 a month clearly i do or i wouldn't be paying it. peace, i love you CCP, stop trying to sell me your gold i'v already bought.
Trinica fey 13. Enigma Project 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:47:59 - [489] - Quote Trinica fey wrote: CCP please help, I'm struggling and worried about your new take on omega clone state. Firstly I understand with eve now being f2p you guys need to put in marketing ploys too keep getting new sub and keeping old subs subbed. my main issue is the x2 training speed its telling me i'm getting in the bottom left of my training queue, I mean really ccp. not like alpha is so op i stop subbing to play alpha. I mean its great for getting new people in the game, but reminding me everytime i look at my skill queue that i'm gifted with this x2 training speed is out right rediculous. i'v already decided i wanted to sub (or plex) for omega please stop reminding me i'm on of the lucky individuals who thinks this game is worth 9.99 a month. I clearly i do or i wouldn't be paying it. peace, i love you CCP, stop trying to sell me your gold i'v already bought.
Cad Aver Onderzoek en Ontwikkeling Co. 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:54:46 - [490] - Quote Eirene Jitacheck wrote: Another vote to bring back Aura. At the very least, slow it down, take it down a bit in pitch, and add some reverb or something. I'm Cad Aver and I approve this message!

maxine Acami Pacific NorthWest Incorporated 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 21:55:06 - [491] - Quote so far, i have to say it is nice to be able to play eve again. however i see a couple of mistakes in my opinion on the limitations for alpha clone. 1. mastery level for ships are way to limited. most cases you can maybe get mastery 1 even 2 at most. my suggestion would be to allow all alphas to at least reach mastery 3 on all ships they can get the skills to pilot. 2. mining limitation of ships for alphas are set very poorly. frigates only? that is basically saying oh here have a trial account forever. not very incising for new players to want to get a sub, not to mention the difficulty for some of us old time miner that had moved on to barges now have to reacquire the frigate. i can understand the lock out from the industrial and capital ships even the high-tech variants of ships but he barges not so much. my suggestion would be allow the barges to alphas at least. for now that is all i have to say other then thank you for the first time attempt at setting up a free to play system in this awesome game.
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 484	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:20:23 - [492] - Quote I am glad we are actually back to general feedback and not stuck up on one devs response (I will neither condone nor approve here). maxine Acami wrote: so far, i have to say it is nice to be able to play eve again. however i see a couple of mistakes in my opinion on the limitations for alpha clone. 1. mastery level for ships are way to limited. most cases you can maybe get mastery 1 even 2 at most. my suggestion would be to allow all alphas to at least reach mastery 3 on all ships they can get the skills to pilot. 2. mining limitation of ships for alphas are set very poorly. frigates only? that is basically saying oh here have a trial account forever. not very incising for new players to want to get a sub, not to mention the difficulty for some of us old time miner that had moved on to barges now have to reacquire the frigate. i can understand the lock out from the industrial and capital ships even the high-tech variants of ships but he barges not so much. my suggestion would be allow the barges to alphas at least. for now that is all i have to say other then thank you for the first time attempt at setting up a free to play system in this awesome game. I underlined your most important point, not sure how you could get past it, stating what it is and accuse it at the same time for being exactly what it is supposed to be Basically I am surprised how open, accepting and generally condoning the paying players are of the alpha clone feature, because skills are a valuable (in both currencies) commodity. Everyone wants free Sp, but in the same manner nobody wants others to get them also. That said, I think the alpha clones are at the moment as competent as can be allowed in the face of the possible (and massive) exploitation potential from the current and future players. Which probably is even a bigger concern compared to the skillpoint investment and value. Join the BIG Lottery (see Bio ingame), oldest and only non-profit Lottery in EVE, every second Monday. Wire ISK to BIG GAMES for tickets ! Join the Channel, have fun, being a lucky winner is optional ,)
Eski Minzin Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:26:46 - [493] - Quote I'm still just pissed off about the change of Aura's voice. And the way CCP is (and isn't) responding to it certainly doesn't help. I realize that you guys at CCP most likely have an attitude of "nobody likes changes, but they'll adapt" right now. But I can assure you, it is much more serious than that. Have you any idea what kind of an impact it has on the game when you get annoyed every time you warp or dock a station? Especially when, at times, you do this every couple of seconds? In the end I decided to just mute her voice because I came to realize that most of the time I was feeling more annoyed than ejoying myself while playing this game that I have come to love so much. Not at all the way I would've liked to solve this, of course. And I can't imagine you feeling good about your players doing this either. By now I have, kind of, come to terms with the fact that you had to re-record her lines. I understand why. Bu why did you have to do such a shoddy job at it? That I don't understand. Because these new recordings simply just don't sound good. Not at all, in fact. I mean, come on... Right now it sounds like two different women saying "Docking permission requested" and "Docking request accepted". Who in heaven's name OK'ed this? If you had to hire a different voice actress this time, for whatever reason that might've been, then couldn't you at least have done your best to make these new recordings sound as similar as possible to the previous ones so as not to change the overall atmosphere and sound of the game? Couldn't you at least have done us that favor? If that is indeed what you were aiming for then I'm sorry, but you have failed miserably. And I demand (I believe I can make demands since you expect me to pay you) that you either re-record it or fix the current recordings. If, on the other hand, you purposefully went a different direction with regards to the sound of her voice, then I demand an explanation of why exactly you thought this was a great idea. I sincerely hope that you will have the common decency to give a (kind and proper this time, please) response on this matter. Especially since such a vast amount of your customers have showed themselves to be dissatisfied with this. And I can assure you, it's not just us on the forums who are dissatisfied. I have spoken to enough people in-game to be able to conclude that were are just the tip of the iceberg. The ones who are at least taking the time to make themselves heard. Finally, I would like to end on a positive note, and say that I genuinely am happy with pretty much all of the other changes you have implemented. Some will take some time to get used to, sure. But they don't bother me. So thank you for that, and overall I think compliments are in order for taking the game through this transition.
Matthias Ancaladron Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:26:57 - [494] - Quote Mining seems limited. Only having access to one mining frigate seems pointless. Even a trial account could get mining barges if you trained properly and not even counting how much slower alphas train than trial accounts. As long as there's no tech or broken op pirate faction/t3 stuff being used idk why they're limiting it to only cruisers and a mining frigate. You can't really do anything with that. It's not valid a long term play option like they claimed. Also surprised there's no new probe scanner interface or explanation of D scan for new players.
Calynus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:29:44 - [495] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Here is the original thread about the "new" Aura voice.: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6711581 It was rudely commented on by the Dev then locked. Unacceptable. Very unprofessional. Personally, I don't like giving money to businesses who are rude and unprofessional to paying customers. I'm sure I'm not alone with this sentiment.
Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:33:20 - [496] - Quote Corporeal Universalis wrote: Raw Matters wrote: Following my own advice I just canceled my subscription with reason "Aura voice" Let's see what happens. I just cancelled my subscription with reason "Aura voice changed." as I was forced to turn it off, and I am now missing on various messages. EVE without Aura, is not EVE. So if Aura doesn't come back, I will not either. yep your right - as not a single response from a dev on this thread for over a day its time to cancel my 4 subs too. CCP Falcon - this guy needs to remember without any customers he doesnt have a job.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 3714	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:37:10 - [497] - Quote Skill Window feedback. On first opening the window there is no selected focus for the scroll wheel. If the default focus could be set to the Skills section (Not the training queue, but where you see all skills in a category) then it would make life slightly smoother. It does maintain the focus once you have selected either the skill window or training queue and then select a new category without having to mouse down and select again, but it would be easier to start with one.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:37:24 - [498] - Quote I totally love the new voice in Ascension, I also love the additional sounds. It makes mining so much more pleasant, in my view. If at all possible, I'd like to see a few voice samples added (in place of, or in addition to the sounds), such as 'Jumping from XXX to XXX' or 'Arriving/arrived at XXX' or 'Ore hold full' and such, for a more 'Sci-Fi' feel, but these are wishes, not gripes. I totally love what has been done!
DeadGuyVegas JABOFPE 3	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:43:56 - [499] - Quote Not Happy with the new Aura voice. It has been a topic in Local, and Corp chat since the update. I agree with others that the old voice was soothing. My Corp and I hope CCP will look into and consider a toggle, or revert, or at least an edit of/from the new voice.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.16 22:57:21 - [500] - Quote DeadGuyVegas wrote: Not Happy with the new Aura voice. It has been a topic in Local, and Corp chat since the update. I agree with others that the old voice was soothing. My Corp and I hope CCP will look into and consider a toggle, or revert, or at least an edit of/from the new voice. I thought the old voice was better than no voice, but I felt it sounded tired and "backgroundish" to the point that I often didn't hear it. This new voice sounds fresh and feminine and much more pleasant. To me, anyway.

Sandor Kurovsky Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2016.11.16 23:05:04 - [501] - Quote maxine Acami wrote: 1. mastery level for ships are way to limited. most cases you can maybe get mastery 1 even 2 at most. my suggestion would be to allow all alphas to at least reach mastery 3 on all ships they can get the skills to pilot. IMO, they had to draw the line somewhere. New players don't need to get beyond mastery 1 to decide whether or not they will continue playing the game/upgrading to a paid sub. Allowing new (or old) players to advance that far into the game without paying does not incentivize them to do so. maxine Acami wrote: 2. mining limitation of ships for alphas are set very poorly. frigates only? that is basically saying oh here have a trial account forever. not very incising for new players to want to get a sub, not to mention the difficulty for some of us old time miner that had moved on to barges now have to reacquire the frigate. i can understand the lock out from the industrial and capital ships even the high-tech variants of ships but he barges not so much. my suggestion would be allow the barges to alphas at least. This would effectively ruin mining for paying players and allow an enormous opportunity for botting. Also, see my above rationale as it applies to this as well.
Karl Jerr Herzack Unit 121	Posted - 2016.11.16 23:11:46 - [502] - Quote I cannot open the ship fitting window, and the station service window has completely disappeared. Is there a workaround? I cleared the cache many times already.
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 227	Posted - 2016.11.16 23:11:48 - [503] - Quote Request: Set look at invul of an exploding ship to a longer period. I'm finding the camera changes back to the default view before we get a chance to see that sweet sweet explosion. @dominousnolen
Kalen Blackstar Silver Sun Republic 26	Posted - 2016.11.17 00:02:27 - [504] - Quote I now disabled the Aura voice by setting "UI Speech Level" to 0. You have official destroyed one more aspect of the game. I struggle with the decision each time it comes up as to whether or not to renew my subscription. As I am disabling and turning away from one aspect of this game after another, that decision is getting easier and easier.
Jhani Bralhast 7	Posted - 2016.11.17 00:57:12 - [505] - Quote My feedback pretty much echoes most everyone else I've read so far: don't like the new character skill page layout and the new UI voice, but everything else seems pretty awesome so far! The new skills page is very confusing and not intuitive at all. I could passively glimpse at the old one and know what my queue was like; this new one takes up way too much screen space while somehow showing less information than before. For that reason it is impressive to me but not in a positive manner! And while I don't mean to be disrespectful to the voice actress who provided the new voice of EVE or the efforts of those involved, the old voice was far superior. It had a warm quality with good enunciation, vocal pace and inflection. Never once did that old voice come up and I wasn't interested in what it had to say. The new voice seems rushed - almost impatient - and is over-filtered to sound distant and tinny. It is not relatable or enjoyable at all, and actually affects my immersion into the game. Please bring back the old voice!
Vrarrg The Reavers. 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 01:06:39 - [506] - Quote Jhani Bralhast wrote: My feedback pretty much echoes most everyone else I've read so far: don't like the new character skill page layout and the new UI voice, but everything else seems pretty awesome so far! The new skills page is very confusing and not intuitive at all. I could passively glimpse at the old one and know what my queue was like; this new one takes up way too much screen space while somehow showing less information than before. For that reason it is impressive to me but not in a positive manner! And while I don't mean to be disrespectful to the voice actress who provided the new voice of EVE or the efforts of those involved, the old voice was far superior. It had a warm quality with good enunciation, vocal pace and inflection. Never once did that old voice come up and I wasn't interested in what it had to say. The new voice seems rushed - almost impatient - and is over-filtered to sound distant and tinny. It is not relatable or enjoyable at all, and actually affects my immersion into the game. Please bring back the old voice! I agree 100%
Gyrr Sie W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M Gentlemen's.Club 13	Posted - 2016.11.17 01:35:37 - [507] - Quote 2FA nonsense - F!!! F!!! F!!! Choice of Aura voice actor - F!!! Ship AI is suppose to be calm and sexy not hyperactive teenybopper. Character sheet ui change - F!!! Skill queue does not show enough depth Containers for skills are not alphabetical Mouse over pop ups should be bound to holding a key down... pick a key any key... I don't like it by default - C- Boosting changes - B+ Range and need for "ammo" Mining ship changes - A I like the Orca and Rorqual changes for the most part in game EFT - B Needs some work but over all good job Still have to check out the rest of it due to 2FA issues yesterday not allowing me to log in the rest of my nerds. Lest I forget... Yahoo.com - if there was a grade below an F they would get it.
Caldranna Let's annoy'em 20	Posted - 2016.11.17 01:50:16 - [508] - Quote Give old Aura voice back!
Regan Rotineque The Scope Gallente Federation 471	Posted - 2016.11.17 03:43:57 - [509] - Quote Quite like some of the changes new explosions - very nice orca changes - great NPC Miners - really like the idea/concept behind it - would love to see the old convoy's come back to be raided as well. Some things not so good New Aura - sorry but I really dont like her - too short almost snippy sounding - hard to hear/understand - would have been nice if we kept old Aura for the things that old Aura did so well - and they had new Aura for the NPE. The new character sheet - The good - I like the hover over on the skills and the list of modules/guns or new skills that open as you train The not so good - I really dont like the formatting here - much prefer having the window use a widescreen approach so that you could have the skills list and the training queue side by side. There is lots of wasted space this way, and the box does not scale as you make it wider/narrower. Also you can only see limited items at a time in the queue or the in the available skills depending on sizing those windows. The side by side allow you to see them all - the old tree system was imho FAR superior. Also we cannot see if the skill is 2x, 4x etc... or how many SP it takes to achieve clearly. So new things were added but it is what was taken away that is the problem.
Awkward Pi Duolus Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2016.11.17 04:10:45 - [510] - Quote I actually like the new Aura voice :) The golden edge on T2 message.. more of an eyesore now than ever was.

conney Cadelanne M.A.Zone 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 04:20:24 - [511] - Quote new aura voice is BAD , stop changiing things and calling it an improvment. new skill window BAD, no beter then the old one. new ghost fitting is awesome, legitimate addition WE NEEDED THIS.. not some bs "we changed arua to be more up to date to curent syfy culture"
Victoria Cohen State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.11.17 04:44:17 - [512] - Quote Cool stuff: 1-explosion, good job 2-caracter sheet, not so clear but good enough 3-skill queu: skill shows in tooltip what it unlocks, good idea 4-ship changes: cool Not cool stuff: 1- your 2 factors verification is annoying and not totaly working properly, 3 out of 5 accounts locked down and responseless ticket opened 2- bring back the lady's voice! Wasnt there more important issue to work on? If i remember correctly, my father used to say: "if it aint broken, dont fix it!" So: 1- you owe me Skillpoint as my Blood Raider Accelerator stoped working 2- you owe me RL money gentlemen as you prevent me from using your services... id be down for: [ ( nb. day without play / 30) X montly fees + adjustments ] X 3 accounts You are always willing to take my money, but far less welling to give yours when you ** up! 3- you also owe me ISK as you prevent me from farming my stuff and im falling behind ISK wise... it's 100M per day!! do you have an idea, CCP, how much time i waste playing your very slow pace game? i need that money i would have honestly earned! Overall:** Very unsatisfied customer here <===== in RL, i pay for my mistakes, pay for yours!
GetOUT The Way817CH blackstar expeditionary force Black Armada 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 05:04:12 - [513] - Quote OYG that has happened with the voice of AURA, I want to disable it. Who is responsible for choosing that voice, who is responsible for my computer on board is "Lady Di". It seems that at any moment it is going to say to me "Charles is the hour of the Tea". I guess it will be the fault of "fozziev", is not it the one that all the people charge with the fault when something fails in CCP?
Dominik Crowley Into The Fray. FREE GATES COALITION 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 05:42:17 - [514] - Quote new Aura voice is killing EvE again please don't improve it just bring old one back maybe that doesn't cost money so it will not be approved by management maybe you could paint the space in white for a change
Davionia Vanshel Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 59	Posted - 2016.11.17 06:24:24 - [515] - Quote Feodor Mihailovici wrote: https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/aura ...sigh ..... That last one ... seriously has to get played when you get podded.
Siigari Kitawa Waking Dreams 422	Posted - 2016.11.17 06:53:59 - [516] - Quote There are no dev responses in this thread. :( Anyway, Caroline Dalton's Aura voice would be appreciated. How much do you guys need to rehire her if that is an option? Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Lucian Thetis Nexneo Alliance 12	Posted - 2016.11.17 06:54:13 - [517] - Quote Like, concerning the voice... the old voice had a filter on it. a filter that made it seem like an AI. so if they can do that, and they ABSOLUTELY need to keep the newly scripted lines for the NPE, then just add that filter to the NEW LINES and bring back the OLD ONES. everyones happy.
Siigari Kitawa Waking Dreams 422	Posted - 2016.11.17 06:57:17 - [518] - Quote Lucian Thetis wrote: Like, concerning the voice... the old voice had a filter on it. a filter that made it seem like an AI. so if they can do that, and they ABSOLUTELY need to keep the newly scripted lines for the NPE, then just add that filter to the NEW LINES and bring back the OLD ONES. everyones happy. Once upon a time I actually spoke with RealX (Jon Hallur) and he gave me the filters for her voice. I'm sure they still have them, and if they don't, I do and am happy to provide them :) Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it. Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else. Ingame channel: PUSHX
Christoph Schmidt Hydrate. 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 07:33:34 - [519] - Quote I miss Aura... It's weird, couldn't have foreseen this, but the voice actor's expression of the AI felt like she had a bit of a backstory: subdued, much more than capable, and quietly resigned to applying her vast intellect to endless repetition. Sort of wistful. Gosh, pathetic. But I still miss her. Please bring her back. Maybe a checkbox in the game options dialog box? -- Christoph Schmidt p.s. The name of the new one isn't Aura; it's Jacky. p.p.s. Did Aura leave a forwarding address?
Kreimhild Aliastra Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.17 07:35:38 - [520] - Quote Like other have stated on most of this stuff. 1. The voice is pretty bad for warp, dock, asteroid depleted etc. 2. The character sheet is just a jumbled mess and I'd like the other back. 3. The command burst lasting longer then the cycle time when you have implant + skills. Would be nice if skills and implant would extend the cycle time as well so they would be in sync. Having to turn the modules on and off is just inconvenient. I just leave them on at this point and the extra script use be damned. 4. I'm still having trouble coming to grips with being robbed half my leadership abilities. Seriously, come on, they aren't the same skill now. Removing the passive changed their function and we should be refunded. 5. The ghost fitting needs a lot of work. 6. I would honestly rather see everything reverted back to the way it was almost. I do find the clone states neat in that I have seen people I haven't seen in a while but not sure how functional they will be to anyone but newer players.

Doctor Bonn Young DisturbedGamers. inPanic 19	Posted - 2016.11.17 07:38:02 - [521] - Quote I realy HATE the voice change you did to Aura. High pitched and speed increased. Sounds like a little pony or like Donald Duck talking in a hollow tube. Please redo the samples to a voice that sounds more of this time.... New character screen.. getting used to. Booster updates... nice. npc miners.... cool. new structures... great.
Jegug Gyohoe MCSLC 8	Posted - 2016.11.17 07:54:06 - [522] - Quote The new voice is a total failure, you have to make the original voice greater again !!
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2016.11.17 08:35:21 - [523] - Quote Lyra Cho wrote: +1 There's a lot of things they could have fixed instead of giving us that disaster of a UI. Was thinking about writing a ticket for the two out of tree characters with a broken character sheet, but I just cancelled the subscription instead.
Damilaska Ichinumi Forbidden Dockyards 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 08:43:02 - [524] - Quote Would be nice if skill queue window looks like old - separate and with skill points numbers in every skill group.
Aurora Kattardyr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 09:10:39 - [525] - Quote Keiko Ogawa wrote: Davionia Vanshel wrote: For the love of all that is holy bring back the old voice. Yes, please. Or give us the option to toggle the old voice, for those who prefer it. Actually I would already be happy if I could get the old "Warp Drive active" sound back ;) this that one announcement you hear so many times, i loved the old one, the new one makes me want to stop playing the game. really
beakerax Pator Tech School 303	Posted - 2016.11.17 09:44:18 - [526] - Quote please replace all of Aura's voice files with CCP Guard doing his batman voice thanks
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1232	Posted - 2016.11.17 09:55:20 - [527] - Quote Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: DeadGuyVegas wrote: Not Happy with the new Aura voice. It has been a topic in Local, and Corp chat since the update. I agree with others that the old voice was soothing. My Corp and I hope CCP will look into and consider a toggle, or revert, or at least an edit of/from the new voice. I thought the old voice was better than no voice, but I felt it sounded tired and "backgroundish" to the point that I often didn't hear it. This new voice sounds fresh and feminine and much more pleasant. To me, anyway. Well CCP, you have one fan out of 27 pages of - It needs fixing, negative. There's your justification to do nothing and just ignore majority feedback. New Aura - Muted on all accounts, will NEVER invite friends to play Eve if that squeal your passing off as Aura's voice is what they will be exposed to. CCP Falcon; I always thought you were one of the few that had players in mind during development - Seems your just not worthy of that, at least not anymore. Fozzie posting, I cringe every time but do read it. Falcon posting, not going to read it, he is just as likely to be rude and insulting - Again.. Respect level, just hit ZERO My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Molica Iwaira Perkone Caldari State 18	Posted - 2016.11.17 10:17:26 - [528] - Quote URGENTLY, change Aura's voice! If you cannot find a professional voice actor, give us the previous one. Please, URGENTLY, since we have to hear this atrocity all the time. Please, do not try to fix the stuff that already works.
Donna Stride Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 17	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:08:17 - [529] - Quote I tried out the NPE. Whilst it is a massive improvement over all previous efforts it still need a fair bit of work to make it an enjoyable, immersive and a less than frustrating experience. A significant problem is that the scripting seems to be highly regimented in terms of what inputs/responses it accepts as valid ways of achieving something. EVE offers many ways in which operations can be carried out. Thus the tutorial should make it very clear to the player what response/action it is expecting; and/or the script needs to be more GÇ£cleverGÇ¥ at interpreting what the player has done. I donGÇÖt know what I GÇ£did wrongGÇ¥, but soon into the tutorial I was given the task to loot a highlighted container, but the container was not possible to be found. The GÇ£?GÇ¥ that takes you back a step only took me back to where I was meant to warp to the location, and again no container was to be seen. I then turned off the tutorial in frustration, hoping to restart it, but there is no obvious way to do that. It is essential that if a tutorial is provided then players should be able to replay it at will. Not being able to go back and try things again or being frustrated by the scripts poor AI will inevitably put off some new players.
Monica Rambeau Fa99ots and Miners 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:16:37 - [530] - Quote Bought additional content packs before update. Update comes in and now I need Omega to use those packs i just bought. Ticket Submitted

Myszokar Asterlan Pro Tax Avoidence 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:22:53 - [531] - Quote As far as I'm concerned, CPP may roll back the whole expansion, since a few unsubstantial improvements are not worth all horrible stuff it brought, rendering the game unplayable (unless someone has masochistic tendencies of course). All my 3 subscriptions cancelled. Please tell us why you are leaving EVE Online ingame changes Please indicate your specific reason last patch If you wish, please provide more details horrible Aura's voice change hideous new character sheet obligatory two-factor authentication
Shiro Ihara ROMANIA Renegades. Circle-Of-Two 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:24:39 - [532] - Quote Testy McTestyFace2 wrote: Danetta Valens wrote: Still can't see my portrait in character sheet because I have no button here where everyone does: http://puu.sh/sjbbm/3457145497.jpg Mine is the same Same here. No character image and no button
sthymj Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:32:19 - [533] - Quote Molica Iwaira wrote: URGENTLY, change Aura's voice! If you cannot find a professional voice actor, give us the previous one. Please, URGENTLY, since we have to hear this atrocity all the time. Please, do not try to fix the stuff that already works. seconded
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 485	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:36:36 - [534] - Quote Danetta Valens wrote: Still can't see my portrait in character sheet because I have no button here where everyone does: http://puu.sh/sjbbm/3457145497.jpg I have this issue of 1 of 4 toons .. not that I mind .. have it minimized anyway. Quote: User Interface: ... *Added the current level and skill point information to tooltips for skills in the character sheet.* ... Thank you very much - for the feature and listening to feedback. very much appreciated and needed. One thing though, the SP counter of a current trained skill is stuck, neither refreshing the window, nor switching tabs seems to have any influence. Been looking at it for 10 minutes now. no change in current SP count. The timer is ticking down fine. I guess it is a display issue.
Esrevid Nekkeg Justified and Ancient 2558	Posted - 2016.11.17 11:44:22 - [535] - Quote There are a lot of new things I will eventually get used to in this expansion. The new Aura voice will not be one of them. It is, to my ears and in my opinion, a flat, high pitched voice with a horrendous accent and a strange intonation. All in all very uncomfortable and unpleasant to listen to. Sadly I know from experience you will never do so, but against my better judgement I implore you, please revert back to the old Aura voice. This change was unnecessary and unwanted. Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
fuzz logick Dredge Drilling Inc. 1	Posted - 2016.11.17 12:25:40 - [536] - Quote Esrevid Nekkeg wrote: There are a lot of new things I will eventually get used to in this expansion. The new Aura voice will not be one of them. It is, to my ears and in my opinion, a flat, high pitched voice with a horrendous accent and a strange intonation. All in all very uncomfortable and unpleasant to listen to. Sadly I know from experience you will never do so, but against my better judgement I implore you, please revert back to the old Aura voice. This change was unnecessary and unwanted. Totally agree. New voice sounds like Quote: censored . revert back to the old Aura voice
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 105	Posted - 2016.11.17 12:45:38 - [537] - Quote Please fix the camera instantly resetting back to the player ship when viewing another ship while it explodes... I want to see the explosions!!! Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 22	Posted - 2016.11.17 12:58:25 - [538] - Quote We already have two separate threads about Aura voice locked and noped - as in commented with "Nope" by dev/cm. I wonder if they will sweep this major feedback thread under the carpet too. Come on CCP, wake up. People are walking the streets with banners saying "Bring old Aura back!", do not ignore them/us. And as we are your customers, there's one golden rule to remember: Customer is always right
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 29	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:02:19 - [539] - Quote Saol Tareis Bas wrote: General Lynch wrote: Benevolant Khan wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 What.....? thats a pretty terrible response to a PAYING CUSTOMER. This sort of response just highlights the VERY POOR customer service that CCP feel is acceptable. They must hate money because I rather set mine on fire than give it to ccp now. After nearly 10 years feel really let down with the way they treat people but sure they are backed up by those drone players who defend them at everything. Devs, do you even care if we stay? What did we do to inspire you so thoroughly to detest us as your playerbase? Are you so arrogant as to think your success doesn't hinge on how many people play? I am baffled and confused regarding this "expansion", and your attitudes toward us as your players and the heart of your company. You took away all that we related to for a decade or more and then flippantly act like teenagers toward our reaction. If you no longer want us to play, say so clearly and stop with the subtle hints. Agreed... TOTAL ** response from CCPlz on the Aura Voice. CCP guys sorry if some of you Devs or Planners or Whatever-it-is-you-do-at-CCPs are "Offended" that we dont like the new Aura voice (Or the new skills page for that matter but I digress) but when you have a large portion of the playerbase on these forums telling you is it total then *** listen to us instead of making glib, YOU posts to us. CCP Keep in mind if you " You" enough of the player-base... you may find that Eve online becomes a game that is played off one server with one dev running it and one executive officer to stare at each other all day going "What the ** happened to the all the players?". Arrogance does not a happy player-base create (looks at CCP Falcon)
Sire Sparrow Viziam Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:13:33 - [540] - Quote Voting with my wallet. Not renewing my 2 subs until the iconic voice we all love is back in game.

Bagatur I GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 80	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:22:24 - [541] - Quote 1. as has been mentioned multiple times before, bring back the old character sheet, or at least the old skill queue sheet, or at the very least the skill time multiplier (xN) next to the skill name. 2. the yellowish frame around omega-only item icons is annoying. as an omega, I dont want to see what alphas cant use. on a bright side, the new numbers on stacks of items are easier to see.
Andy Baer Panzer Recycling Station 6	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:22:39 - [542] - Quote I unsubscribed 1h ago.
Rahh4711 Oksaras Adam's Brotherhood TRUE VINE 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:25:13 - [543] - Quote I too voted with my wallet - bought the subscription... The old voice sounded stale and lifeless already after a few weeks of my trial account. The new one is refreshing and not boring to listen to. As for the new character sheet, I like it. I never got the hang of the old skill setup, needed to go to navcom app to get an overview where to find whatever I was looking for - and often forgot to save the changes to the skill training list, going afk because of things out of my control and then coming back to a computer in sleep mode and the game client logged off. Now I as a noob can find things much faster it seems and the skill training for the top item starts immediately, slick... So far these things I like very much.
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14917	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:32:03 - [544] - Quote This is the only person worthy of the name Aura. Do whatever it takes to bring her back.
Bagatur I GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 80	Posted - 2016.11.17 13:38:28 - [545] - Quote Phaezen Orti wrote: A toggle to show alpha only skills would be nice plus Juan! instead of all those yellow boxes in skill categories, have a way to show either all or alpha-only skills.
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 422	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:19:38 - [546] - Quote Add me to the disgruntled customer numbers. I have five accounts. Four have jumped through the 2FA hoops. Two are Omega, two remain Alpha. They'll remain Alpha for a Very. Long. Time. The Two Omegas? When I can afford the splurge, they'll be full powah. Otherwise rinkydink Alpha works fine. I only pay 'tips' for good customer service. If CCP was in the waiter/waitress line of work, you just earned two pennies for this product and it's presentation. Is that the grand plan? Run off the longer term paying customers in hopes the mass wave of R00kies more than picks up the financial slack? Just tell us we're up for replacement for newer blood (with shorter memories), then these design and road-map decisions would make a lick of sense. Wat do?? >Jeven Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
Voxinian 126	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:38:52 - [547] - Quote Annexe wrote: Please fix the camera instantly resetting back to the player ship when viewing another ship while it explodes... I want to see the explosions!!! Not a good screenshot was taken so far. Change the camera!
Cookem Time and all Eternity The Methodical Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:44:29 - [548] - Quote Withe the expansions there are a few things that stick out The new fitting widows get 2 thumbs up, no question. The new character screen is .. Meh .. Maybe its a case of not liking change but i find it a bit clunky. the Skill Q, i miss the old one. with the new one its hard to see to far into the Q wqithout trying to stretch the box off the edges of your monitor. the old skill Q was clean and easy see and navigate./ Aura... dont know what happened there but someone was high on something. the new voise is simply terrible, no discussion needed on that. Please allow us to go back to the old Aura voice set.
Marious Manfondish Anger of the Darkness Shadow of xXDEATHXx 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:49:39 - [549] - Quote How to know about SP needed for next lvl skill ? Ok if you have unallocated sp - you can click apply sp. But if you dont have free sp - there is NO option !!!
Zerberus Valheru Massive Dynamic inc. Care Factor 3	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:50:18 - [550] - Quote Please make it an option to use the old aura sound files for HUD type messages. (ie. warping/docking) The new voice is a poor replacement imho and I am unwilling to 'get used to it'.

Lucy Lollipops State War Academy Caldari State 125	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:54:50 - [551] - Quote The new voice for warping is awful, it was sci-fi in previous, now it's a normal recorded voice, it turns me off everytime I warp.
Gorf Ash korpa pYco 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 15:03:25 - [552] - Quote Awesome patch! I had to set UI seech level to 0 now since I was about to force quit the game everytime I have hear that stupid voice. At least put the previous voice as an option for those 99% of player base which does not like what you have did there....
ChenLi EVE University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 15:30:02 - [553] - Quote Have been playing eve for about a year. I too, like many others on the forum i guess, enjoy the old AI voice much better than the new one. But I guess it is impractical for CCP to continue using 13 year recording forever, cause it prevents the game from making any change, or adding new one. So I understand CCP's decision to having a new voice behind Aura, and support it. But put that a side, for the love of god, please please redo those recordings! The current voice is too human like. Put some filters on, add some resonance, whatever you do, please make the voice more "sci-fi" like!!
Cookie Snakeoil Industries Ltd. 5	Posted - 2016.11.17 15:33:24 - [554] - Quote DON'T FIX WHAT ISN'T BROKEN !!! WTB torches and pitforks for the aura crusade
Oraac Ensor 721	Posted - 2016.11.17 15:45:50 - [555] - Quote General Lynch wrote: Be honest I don't think they will listen. Have a look at the attitude the devs have . Probably will be banned for this ha http://imgur.com/a/9Sra4 In many companies replying in that way to a legitimate complaint from paying customers would earn the employee an instant dismissal notice.
Caim Naberius Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2016.11.17 15:59:40 - [556] - Quote Nostalgia I miss you babe, we've been through hard times and you can be a bit of a nag but i can't go on like this. My immortal life means nothing without you. Please come home
Soltys Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2016.11.17 16:05:04 - [557] - Quote Well ...... what's the point of this kind of thread again ? I'll maybe write more pointless feedback later, but in a nutshell it won't be particularly different than past 30 pages: The good: - off grid booster removal and replacement - a bit half assed but still some attempt at t3d rebalance - a big and meaty bone thrown to miners - new citadel stuff - new fitting window - some new stuff to play with The medicore / pointless change: - new Aura; what was wrong with the old one ? (personally IDC about this change much if at all, but the old voice is certainly better than the new one; did you have some legal issues related to the old stuff ?) The bad: - new irritating OVERSIZED popups telling me (with no way to turn this off) how much skills i have to learn and other pointless stuff for every single junk I mouse over, while at the same time making the only useful information (price) nearly invisible and removing another one completely (whole stack value) - new skill part of character window, which is overengineered desperate-at-being-pretty laggy mess: cannot add multiple skills at once, doesn't show pri/sec attributes per skill, doesn't show amount of learnt sp per skill/group, uses screen estate in pretty terrible way (you do know that monitors generally have width > height ?), wastes 1/3 or vertical space for background and face (why ? what for ?). New character screen (or rather its skill part) to old one is like dotlan maps to new map (and old map as well to lesser extent). Hope you get the analogy. Anyway - in the context of expansion itself it's quite good - with major bad points being new character window (seriously listen to damn feedback for a change - it doesn't need that many changes, but it DOES need them), irritating popups and Aura - but these being vastly outweighted by good parts (imho). Sadly, the bad parts join in execution and design traits: - new nearly knobless map with fundamental issues unfixed for ~year by now, disqualifying it as a map; the main good part of it being a neocom icon that has a color - new market graphs (at their current iteration, and I'm not holding my breath for much real changes coming) - new still lacking essential functionality camera - new tactical window with curved proections and more bling forced down out throats with no knobs or shortcuts to change or alter it on the fly to normal vertical projections and a sphere (which are notably more useful in some scenarios) - new probe dialog window still having bugged filter selections - new nearly knobless probe map with dscan/probes having same damn color and no knobs to adjust it (or general bubble intensity) or nearly anything for that matter (including major damn gripe of accidental bubble grabbing - forced down our throats with no knob to disable it even if there are 3 (three) other ways do resize them and even if one of sisi iterations had this cancer turned off). - new monochromatic (that's just stupid) barely differently looking neocom icons And a few lesser but no less irritating regressions, such as tab window minimizing to titlebar, rgb sliders, forced window snap in, forced transparency when pinned down .... Jita Flipping Inc.: Kovl & Kuvl
Captain Gamma Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 16:05:59 - [558] - Quote This thread is so full of tears, amazing. Looks like the "Adapt or die" is only for the newbies, not for the long-standing veterans? New voice? Ok, different, but not the end of the world. New character sheet? After minimizing the picture and the skill section it's not so bad. The missing skill points in the tooltip was patched in today, so I'm positive that other minor issues will get fixed soon. Omega icons look different? Ok, why not. And btw: It's not totally useless for Omegas to know this. I think it could be useful for traders to see if an item can be used by Alphas or not. And thx to CCP that the ship fitting screen finally shows the Time to Warp! It was a pain to calculate this. I really hope that CCP will address some really important issues and improvements after Ascension is stable.
Shiro Ihara ROMANIA Renegades. Circle-Of-Two 1	Posted - 2016.11.17 16:18:41 - [559] - Quote I always thought CCP is the kind of a company that listens to it's players or at least this was the impression. I always thought this is what differentiates them from giants like Blizzard and this thought made me fall in love with EVE and CCP in the first place. If this new voice problem isn't going to be fixed I will be so disappointed in CCP. Basically, because I feel that the whole system of beliefs I had about CCP was built on a total lie. This is not us resisting to change is us kindly telling you that you made a small mistake and we would like you to fix it. I'm using the word "kindly" because the next question would be "How many of your hard earned and loyal paying customers you need to loose in order to treat this problem seriously?" Just don't treat us like small minded peasants and tell your Devs that a reply like that, not only is not worthy of your status, but is borderline insulting.
Zappity Horde Vanguard. Pandemic Horde 3058	Posted - 2016.11.17 16:34:53 - [560] - Quote I like the new Aura. It was a bit of a shock at first bit I'm used to it now. I really like that key phrases are shorter (in seconds) now, too. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Josef Djugashvilis 3480	Posted - 2016.11.17 16:38:07 - [561] - Quote The new Aura sounds like an uptight school teacher, or someone who enjoys inhaling helium. Please bring the old Aura back. This is not a signature.
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2016.11.17 16:42:49 - [562] - Quote Captain Gamma wrote: New character sheet? After minimizing the picture and the skill section it's not so bad. The new character sheet is the first and only window with a fixed lenghts to high ratio which is a ffing disaster. I have a 24inch monitor and I can't make it as big or small as I like! Not to mention that it is still broken for 2 of my alts.
Cad Aver Onderzoek en Ontwikkeling Co. 9	Posted - 2016.11.17 17:09:41 - [563] - Quote Eski Minzin wrote: I'm still just pissed off about the change of Aura's voice. And the way CCP is (and isn't) responding to it certainly doesn't help. I realize that you guys at CCP most likely have an attitude of "nobody likes changes, but they'll adapt" right now. But I can assure you, it is much more serious than that. Have you any idea what kind of an impact it has on the game when you get annoyed every time you warp or dock a station? Especially when, at times, you do this every couple of seconds? In the end I decided to just mute her voice because I came to realize that most of the time I was feeling more annoyed than ejoying myself while playing this game that I have come to love so much. Not at all the way I would've liked to solve this, of course. And I can't imagine you feeling good about your players doing this either. By now I have, kind of, come to terms with the fact that you had to re-record her lines. I understand why. But why did you have to do such a shoddy job at it? That I don't understand. Because these new recordings simply just don't sound good. Not at all, in fact. I mean, come on... Right now it sounds like two different women saying "Docking permission requested" and "Docking request accepted". Who in heaven's name OK'ed this? If you had to hire a different voice actress this time, for whatever reason that might've been, then couldn't you at least have done your best to make these new recordings sound as similar as possible to the previous ones so as not to change the overall atmosphere and sound of the game? Couldn't you at least have done us that favor? If that is indeed what you were aiming for then I'm sorry, but you have failed miserably. And I demand (I believe I can make demands since you expect me to pay you) that you either re-record it or fix the current recordings. If, on the other hand, you purposefully went a different direction with regards to the sound of her voice, then I demand an explanation as to why exactly you thought this was a great idea. I sincerely hope that you will have the common decency to give us a (kind and proper this time, please) response on this matter. Especially since such a vast amount of your customers have shown themselves to be dissatisfied with this. And I can assure you, it's not just us on the forums who are dissatisfied. I have spoken to enough people in-game to be able to conclude that we are just the tip of the iceberg. The ones who are at least taking the time to make themselves heard. Finally, I would like to end on a positive note, and say that I genuinely am happy with pretty much all of the other changes you have implemented. Some will take some time to get used to, sure. But they don't bother me. So thank you for that, and overall I think compliments are in order for taking the game through this rough transition. You said it brother. I second that motion!
Dominous Nolen We're Happy In Wormhole Space 231	Posted - 2016.11.17 17:45:01 - [564] - Quote beakerax wrote: please replace all of Aura's voice files with CCP Guard doing his batman voice thanks Now this, this is an idea I can get behind. @dominousnolen
Althalus Stenory Flying Blacksmiths 92	Posted - 2016.11.17 18:02:21 - [565] - Quote Suggestion about fitting management. At the moment, when I open the saved fits, I find it too much condensed, without enough contrast to see clearly each part. It looks like more a big amount of text with icons than anything else... Another "issue" is the complexity to export fit (we already had): find your ship category select your faction select your ship select your fit save as .. select what you need. Well, fine. It's a bit too much of clicks required, don't you think ? Solutions (for both problems) : add some contrast on fit names (like darkening a little bit the line ?) allows us to configure the display a little bit : Display / Hide ship icons (or put everything inline, at the same size you put factions) Collapse / Expand everything Hide tree (have everything at the same level, without tree) Add "export to clipboard" in the right click contextual menu on the fits, just behind "multifit" for example (this one especially would save a lot lot lot of time...) Thanks.
Edwin Zavut 2	Posted - 2016.11.17 18:18:00 - [566] - Quote Please return old Aura voice. Or make possible to choose it.
Klaw Athonille Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2016.11.17 18:39:57 - [567] - Quote Gorf Ash wrote: Awesome patch! I had to set UI seech level to 0 now since I was about to force quit the game everytime I have hear that stupid voice. At least put the previous voice as an option for those 99% of player base which does not like what you have did there.... For the 99% of PAYING player base.....
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 26	Posted - 2016.11.17 18:46:09 - [568] - Quote Klaw Athonille wrote: Gorf Ash wrote: Awesome patch! I had to set UI seech level to 0 now since I was about to force quit the game everytime I have hear that stupid voice. At least put the previous voice as an option for those 99% of player base which does not like what you have did there.... For the 99% of PAYING player base..... That.
Erin Crawford 493	Posted - 2016.11.17 18:55:46 - [569] - Quote Klaw Athonille wrote: Gorf Ash wrote: Awesome patch! I had to set UI seech level to 0 now since I was about to force quit the game everytime I have hear that stupid voice. At least put the previous voice as an option for those 99% of player base which does not like what you have did there.... For the 99% of PAYING player base..... I posted this somewhere else... I'll leave it here - soon CCP will be able to synthesize Aura's voice exactly as the old one and have her say whatever they need her to: Erin Crawford wrote: Well, with the just recently announced Adobe VoCo stuff at Adobe Max 2016 https://youtu.be/I3l4XLZ59iw you'll soon be able to synthesize Aura's voice to say what ever you want! "Those who talk donGÇÖt know. Those who know donGÇÖt talk. "
Nix Axer Radiation Risk 415	Posted - 2016.11.17 19:06:32 - [570] - Quote Please return old Aura voice!

Wondertoon Pavillon Rouge Opera Mundi 1	Posted - 2016.11.17 19:38:34 - [571] - Quote Hi, Thanks for the great job you are doing at CCP. I love many of the features you added in this last expansion, especially the fitting tool which is awesome =) Yet, some UI design are in my opinion overly cumbersome : - Skill queue does not show training time multiplier anymore. It is important info i would like to have back on the main window please. - Omega status visual distinctions are everywhere (highlight on items, logo in ship tree, on info panels, etc.) Please add some way to disable these "adverts" when omega state is activated. - Aura new voice is awful, or at least not my taste at all (and its volume is wrongly balanced by default). Can we please have the option to use the old one again ? - Finally, it is very minor, but I think the skill queue would be read better if names were organized vertically : 1 4 2 5 3 6 instead of : 1 2 3 4 5 6 I hope someone from CCP will read this and give it a thought. They are not big changes and I genuinely believe it would improve the game playability comfort a lot. Thanks, bb Wonder
GetOUT The Way817CH blackstar expeditionary force Black Armada 8	Posted - 2016.11.17 19:58:31 - [572] - Quote OK I understand that for some reason CCP can not keep the old voice of AURA. But it is necessary that we have in the ship this new ?, it is horrible. Make another one better please !!!
Lifelongnoob's Brother Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 21:16:33 - [573] - Quote GetOUT The Way817CH wrote: OK I understand that for some reason CCP can not keep the old voice of AURA. But it is necessary that we have in the ship this new ?, it is horrible. Make another one better please !!! ccp need to do like tomtom did with sat nav. hire celebrities to do aura voiceovers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AStf6oHCS9o
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 486	Posted - 2016.11.17 21:25:14 - [574] - Quote I just realized a big faux pas of the dev team. Omage items one can use appear yellow, while restrictions appear blue. This is like changing the colors of a traffic light from red to green and vice versa - WHY ? Information is blue, even internationally, why can't omega items be bluish framed ... since it is INFORMATION! WARNINGS, like 'don't have the requirement' should be (and were yellow/red - signal colors anyone?!) - I just took a bunch of drones with me and when trying to deploy in combat as a logi .... can't use them. But I checked before I undocked, no yellow or red markers for requirements. DUH! I previously focused only on the stupidity of giving omega items a warning color like for becoming suspect. I wasn't even aware of the change in the info window. I can't find words to describe how %(%$/$/=)+û_) this is. Seriously, someone needs to get reprimanded for this. This is a big nono. TL,DR: Warnings in bland color and bland information in warning colors. Someone lost his/her mind.
General Lynch Fire Ridge Holdings 29	Posted - 2016.11.17 21:49:20 - [575] - Quote Calaeus Fira wrote: Klaw Athonille wrote: Gorf Ash wrote: Awesome patch! I had to set UI seech level to 0 now since I was about to force quit the game everytime I have hear that stupid voice. At least put the previous voice as an option for those 99% of player base which does not like what you have did there.... For the 99% of PAYING player base..... That. This
GetOUT The Way817CH blackstar expeditionary force Black Armada 9	Posted - 2016.11.17 22:01:19 - [576] - Quote Lifelongnoob's Brother wrote: GetOUT The Way817CH wrote: OK I understand that for some reason CCP can not keep the old voice of AURA. But it is necessary that we have in the ship this new ?, it is horrible. Make another one better please !!! ccp need to do like tomtom did with sat nav. hire celebrities to do aura voiceovers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AStf6oHCS9o LOL That are R E A L L Y G O O D man. +1
John Lawyer Jr Silicon Dreams Smile 'n' Wave 6	Posted - 2016.11.17 22:06:49 - [577] - Quote Well, I am about to renew my sub (wasn't playing since summer) but I can't. Some changes of current expansion (which were clearly stated numerous times) are too "raw" - will observe couple of days the situation. P.S.: forgot to say thanks for removing OGB - really hope, CCP, you will handle this x-pansion mess in a most civilized way (umm.. rollback Aura? :)
Voxinian 127	Posted - 2016.11.17 22:24:38 - [578] - Quote Thanks for reviving the bio CCP.... for some positive feedback
Benevolant Khan Aliastra Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2016.11.17 22:38:23 - [579] - Quote Wondertoon wrote: Hi, Thanks for the great job you are doing at CCP. I love many of the features you added in this last expansion, especially the fitting tool which is awesome =) Yet, some UI design are in my opinion overly cumbersome : - Skill queue does not show training time multiplier anymore. It is important info i would like to have back on the main window please. - Omega status visual distinctions are everywhere (highlight on items, logo in ship tree, on info panels, etc.) Please add some way to disable these "adverts" when omega state is activated. - Aura new voice is awful, or at least not my taste at all (and its volume is wrongly balanced by default). Can we please have the option to use the old one again ? - Finally, it is very minor, but I think the skill queue would be read better if names were organized vertically : 1 4 2 5 3 6 instead of : 1 2 3 4 5 6 I hope someone from CCP will read this and give it a thought. They are not big changes and I genuinely believe it would improve the game playability comfort a lot. Thanks, bb Wonder could not agree more with you - sadly no-one from the dev team seems interested in replying to this thread.
Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 138	Posted - 2016.11.17 22:55:35 - [580] - Quote Lucy Lollipops wrote: The new voice for warping is awful, it was sci-fi in previous, now it's a normal recorded voice, it turns me off everytime I warp. For everyone upset about the new Aura voice, which, by the way, we have been bitching about on the Sisi feedback section for weeks, just play this to get your fix of the real Aura. Here Hat tip to whoever spotted this and a double hat tip to Eve Outtakes. Superb Sir, I salute you!

forsak3n Viziam Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.11.17 22:59:37 - [581] - Quote Ion Blacknight wrote: Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. The character sheet was fine as it was. Did anyone ever express dissatisfaction with these elements? Change for change's sake. Suggest using focus groups made up of players to run changes by before making them. People who are stating '' it's a change and we must accept that'' are the kinda players that play eve online without sound or they simply need the presence of a real woman ( or at least her voice ) next to them. Eve first of all should be ( and is ) an immersive game. The voice of old Aura combined with the ambient of space and it's specific music, represents the perfect recipe for a awesome virtual sci fi experience. What new Aura does, is simply to wake up from all that, like an annoying girl friend with a stupid voice. Please bring back old Aura or at least give us an option to mute the new one.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 23:17:00 - [582] - Quote Lucian Thetis wrote: Like, concerning the voice... the old voice had a filter on it. a filter that made it seem like an AI. so if they can do that, and they ABSOLUTELY need to keep the newly scripted lines for the NPE, then just add that filter to the NEW LINES and bring back the OLD ONES. everyones happy. Not even remotely. I happen to like the new voice and the speaking style. I totally love it. Please do not bring back that old tired-backgroundish-sounding voice. I have no use for it, and add more samples please!
Dajat Lemmont Aliastra Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 23:22:57 - [583] - Quote I did not realize how much Aura's voice was part of my Eve experience...until you changed it. Please Bring Back The Old UI Speech! ...or at least, let us choose between UI Voices. That way you can keep your "improvement" in game, for those who like it.
Halo Styx Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.17 23:38:43 - [584] - Quote Saved me a subscription to check out if EVE is still not worth the time/money.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 46	Posted - 2016.11.17 23:44:36 - [585] - Quote forsak3n wrote: Ion Blacknight wrote: Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. The character sheet was fine as it was. Did anyone ever express dissatisfaction with these elements? Change for change's sake. Suggest using focus groups made up of players to run changes by before making them. People who are stating '' it's a change and we must accept that'' are the kinda players that play eve online without sound or they simply need the presence of a real woman ( or at least her voice ) next to them. Eve first of all should be ( and is ) an immersive game. The voice of old Aura combined with the ambient of space and it's specific music, represents the perfect recipe for a awesome virtual sci fi experience. What new Aura does, is simply to wake up from all that, like an annoying girl friend with a stupid voice. Please bring back old Aura or at least give us an option to chose between old and new. Well said. War reports: Blacknight active
xRazoRx Disassembly workshop Out of Sight. 10	Posted - 2016.11.18 00:06:51 - [586] - Quote Ion Blacknight wrote: Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. The character sheet was fine as it was. Did anyone ever express dissatisfaction with these elements? Change for change's sake. Suggest using focus groups made up of players to run changes by before making them. I heard they had one and it's called CSM? Might be wild rumors.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 01:23:35 - [587] - Quote Edwin Zavut wrote: Please return old Aura voice. I would be very unhappy with that. Edwin Zavut wrote: Or make possible to choose it. Choice is never a bad thing.
Hindustani Troublemaker Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 01:52:17 - [588] - Quote Ridjobradi wrote: Really instead of calm semi cold robotic voice you brought us, (pardon my french), UK nervous whore sound as Aura voice... no no no dear CCP that wont work.. after 10y ill rather remember how good game was instead to listen watch and play this! Thank you very much it was fun, but you like too much to ruin what was perfect. Rollback voice!!! We all wish for that. But I guess all this feedback is futile. For the last couple of years, I have had to listen to "Below the Asteroids" on YouTube instead of on my jukebox.
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2765	Posted - 2016.11.18 02:04:37 - [589] - Quote One thing that would make the Character Sheet better is if the "Have prerequisites for" tab only showed skills you could train, but which were not injected. This would better differentiate it from the "Can train now" tab. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 31	Posted - 2016.11.18 03:03:59 - [590] - Quote Dajat Lemmont wrote: ...or at least, let us choose between UI Voices. That way you can keep your "improvement" in game, for those who like it. A choice is something that I would definitely look forward to. While the majority of the players wants the old Aura voice back, having an actual choice to switch between both would be a perfect solution to satisfy us and also the very few people who enjoy this garbage replacement, ugh. So yeah, CCP, at least give people a choice instead of forcing everyone to mute that new, annoying voice.

John WarpingSlow 115	Posted - 2016.11.18 04:27:38 - [591] - Quote I created this in the "Player Features and Ideas Discussion" forum: Feature Request: User definable voice actor files Old Aura, New Aura, or something else entirely, whatever the player wants; it's just client-side audio files.
AnzacPaul Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy 127	Posted - 2016.11.18 04:45:54 - [592] - Quote Funny going back to the Citadel release general discussion, how many dev posts there were in the first 20 pages, compared to this release.
Morticae Eoner Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 05:03:13 - [593] - Quote My first issue with the new tutorial is the civilian analyzer BPO. What's the point in a BPO for a civilian module? I don't see a point in it being a permanent blue print. My second issue may be a thing that has been passed on from the old system; that being the issue of the rookie ships. You can undock in your pod, go to a station you have no ships at and get a free rookie ship. Doing this over and over gives you unlimited rookie ships. You can then repackage and reassemble them over and over for unlimited civilian guns, mining lasers, and afterburners. The guns you can't do much with, but the afterburner and mining laser is a sellable item. I submitted a ticket on the issue and asked if I should report this as a bug for exploitation, but I haven't had a response yet. Seems to me that both of these issues should be addressed early on.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 05:22:35 - [594] - Quote The character sheet says: Train skills at 2X speed. I don't think this is true. I see no speed difference. Infinite skill queue I don't think this works properly. Mine still stops at 50 entries, just as it has done for a long time. Unless I am not seeing it, which is eminently possible, I still don't see how long my subscription is valid, even though I an extend it. Surely, it is not beyond the boundaries of current programming possibilities to actually display this? I love the new voice. I understand that some people don't like it, but I would submit that tastes differ and that it is hard to please everybody. Still, be grateful that it is not one of those Donald-Duck-potato-grating voices *** vocal frying that are so popular in North America. I like the slightly German-sounding accent, it makes the voice a little exotic. There is still no voice for certain aspects of the game. I would love to see that added, such as "Scanning", "Crystal depleted or worn out", "Ore hold full", "Jumping from XXX to YYY", "Arriving at XXX" and more.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1243	Posted - 2016.11.18 05:58:00 - [595] - Quote SurrenderMonkey wrote: Sgt Ocker wrote: Eve is becoming the game I play when there is just nothing else to do. But you do manage to put in some long, long hours of endless complaining on the forums, regardless. Only about an hour a day, mainly because when I am paying for a product I like to be able to use that product in a reasonable way without having to turn off options that used to be enjoyable. Your right in part, I do complain about poor design decisions. If CCP didn't take so much pride (and some Devs weren't so arrogant) in such poor design decisions, I'd have more time to play the game... And in all honesty - My sig applies to you here. I don't force others to read my posts and if you don't like them - Your free to skip over them. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Maxim Gorkij True North 34	Posted - 2016.11.18 06:12:54 - [596] - Quote Well... looking at someCCP feedback and responses like "nope" to a ton of requests to get the old voice back certainly made me see there's some serious "issues" here somewhere. Like most others I love the game, - but I dont like people changing what I like to something I absolutely dislike and then telling me (and all others who suddenly have to go from having something we love - to getting something we hate) between the lines: "we just dont care that you don't like it, you shall have it like this whether you like it or not". I had to turn the voice off on all 4 of my characters so as not to be constantly annoyed, as I think a few thousand others have done as well. So you just removed an important part of the "ambience" of the game for me and so many others. You tell us this is how it's going to be from now on. OK. So we have permanently lost a part of the game that was a signature of the game. We know that sound is important - everyone knows that, try watching a YT video with bad sound - everyone turns off such videos sound after less than 30 seconds. 30 seconds is an eternity when you are faced with something as annoying as a sound that creates negative feelings/annoyance. For all human beings sounds are extremely important - imagine any movie you ever enjoyed or got exited about, and then try to picture yourself achieving the same great emotions if some inappropriate annoying music was set to the same movie, it doesnt even have to be noticeably inappropriate - but when you have set the bar already any change becomes extremely noticeable. Imagine the owners of the LoTR franchise or Blade Runner or any other great movie suddenly deciding to remove or substitute one of their main female characters voices when they are setting the mood for that scene - like changing Galadriel's (Cate Blanchet's) serious voice by the fountain to Mila Kunis screeching/ indifferent / happy go lucky moments from that 70's show. (not deriding her, the use of that shows characters voice was exaggerated &intended. Now try to imagine the owners changing it on all future dvd's or whatever medium it will be sold on, and then telling us the product is better or even acceptable - simply because all "focus groups" and commercial PR companies studies tell the rest of the industry that "boys and young men "respond favorably" to such and such female voices. So whats the end result here: Well. you have destroyed the feeling, ambience and mood of a Rembrandt, a Blade Runner, a product that was made for a specific mood and environment and - intentionally or not - you have had it clash horribly with some market research PR "ploy" and technique that almost every user now is able to see through, and it seems you make it a priority to gain income from this - and NOT a priority to keep the mood and special relationship between the environment of the game and not correspond consistently with the rest of the game, nor keep a good relationship with your most loyal users,in order to gain some doubtful long term benefits. Well, in my case you have achieved a couple of things: as I say, I've lost what I considered an important enough part of the game so that even though I very early on turned off all the other sounds, I kept only the ships health warnings + a few things - the Aura voice was among those very few sounds apart from the ships warnings - so, in essence, these were the few things that actually "told me" -audio wise - that I was playing EVE. These sounds were and are the main last most important pillars of the game that gives the EVE feeling other than when one sometimes goes back to the EVE music for the nostalgia of course. Most of the time we all have something else running in the background - radio, music, lectures, spanish courses or whatever it is we need or feel like - while we all love the original EVE music, it's not possible for anyone to listen to the same thing months on end. But Aura was that last non intrusive part of the game - and thus what "let you know" you were playing EVE, and given "the EVE feeling". This is not how it is anymore. You have made the voice not only intrusive, and removed its connect with the rest of the game's ambience - but you have made it almost insulting by showing us that you too are stooping to the male-female advertising sex-connotation trick that all to many advertisers stoop to: making their female voices sound like a "sexually "available" / positive partner and all the rest of the gory, less than sublime platitudes from the PR industry. The problem is, that is not how you create a good movie, good art, good emotions, good ambience, mood and feelings in an escapist combination of all those which a video-game surely is. What you have created is a blatant in your face howling discrepancy between what WAS "a Blade Runner" and now is resembling more and more a Blade Runner which the owners have no qualms at setting Benny Hill music too, painting pink, or removing the main features from if only a PR company can tell them - "hey, this playing on sex thing always works - dont bother listening to the complaints". It's not only discomforting to have to imagine this - it's downright feeding negative emotions, negative almost to the point of preventing me from wanting to visit Fanfest on Iceland - no longer feeling CCP are people who care about both their own product AND the player base using it or their enjoyment. I dont everwant to become or even stay that negative - but as you might have gathered from all the latest response - you may start to appreciate how important sound really IS, and how it sets the tone, mood etc. - and sets it on such a fundamental level, that if you mess with it, you are actually achieving exactly the opposite of what you set out to do. I have thought a lot about this, since for me, the game has become important - therefore the sound is important. I hope you will reassess and reconsider.
Countess Markievicz Eyememyne 2	Posted - 2016.11.18 08:16:27 - [597] - Quote The new Aura needs to stop taking drugs - 'speed' is bad for you, it rots your brain and is highly addictive. `Addicted to Eve`
Donna Stride Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 22	Posted - 2016.11.18 09:26:02 - [598] - Quote So the response from CCP re the requests to look into ways to offer a solution to the Aura voicegate discussion is "Nope" Back to PR school with you Falcon
Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 139	Posted - 2016.11.18 09:28:44 - [599] - Quote Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: Not even remotely. I happen to like the new voice and the speaking style. I totally love it. Please do not bring back that old tired-backgroundish-sounding voice. I have no use for it, and add more samples please! Well then, your hearing must be a lot better than mine (actually not that hard). I don't mind the new voice but it would be a lot clearer and less grating if it were slowed down, by say 10%, so that I could actually hear what Aura was telling me. The old voice's diction was a lot clearer and although most of us could join in with "Warping to stargate" or "The module has run out of charges" there are times when new messages may be critical and if you can't understand them then "Boom!" I have heard that the same voice actor was used on both occasions so why the new voice is so hurried and high pitched has me puzzled. Everyone knows CCP are stubborn but I think that they might have a change of heart. They did after all change the "Docking request excepted" original offering to the correct pronunciation "Docking request accepted" If more people had logged on to Sisi whilst Ascension was being tested CCP may have had more adverse comments about the new Aura. We did try and partly succeeded. Now Ascension is in the wild we'll see if the cries of anguish have any more effect. Here's hoping they will.
Terrorfrodo Interbus Universal 762	Posted - 2016.11.18 09:44:19 - [600] - Quote After hearing more of the voice samples, I think new Aura is mostly okay. Except for the 'warp drive active' sample. Which unfortunately is the most important one because I hear it all the time. The 'a module has run out of charges' sample is actually better now, the old one was very annoying. Still wish the Aura voice was more 'computerized'. I'd prefer it to a simply real-sounding voice. .

Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1243	Posted - 2016.11.18 10:12:15 - [601] - Quote xRazoRx wrote: Ion Blacknight wrote: Aura's voice was the soul of Eve. The character sheet was fine as it was. Did anyone ever express dissatisfaction with these elements? Change for change's sake. Suggest using focus groups made up of players to run changes by before making them. I heard they had one and it's called CSM? Might be wild rumors. CSM = Focus Group = LOL. We haven't had a CSM worthy of the name for years. They certainly aren't representative of the Eve player base as being a focus group... My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Jegug Gyohoe MCSLC 19	Posted - 2016.11.18 11:03:00 - [602] - Quote Annexe wrote: How I would sum-up the comparison of the old Aura voice to the new one... Old voice - "Warp Drive Active, there is a chance you are gonna die, I hope you know what you are doing" New voice - "Warp Drive Active. Have a nice day" Just ewwww Exactly
Jegug Gyohoe MCSLC 22	Posted - 2016.11.18 11:06:10 - [603] - Quote Because the new voice of Aura was apparently dubbed by a duck, we want CCP propose an option to choose the original voice or the "ducky" one. Please bring back Aura's voice ! Save your ears ! Sign the petition !! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again
Ni Neith Hedion University Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2016.11.18 11:16:00 - [604] - Quote Terrorfrodo wrote: After hearing more of the voice samples, I think new Aura is mostly okay. Except for the 'warp drive active' sample. Which unfortunately is the most important one because I hear it all the time. Nah, the most important one is "connectin". It makes me cringe every time and not to ever connect again.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 51	Posted - 2016.11.18 11:28:13 - [605] - Quote I think she says "cannectin." And "wopp drive active." War reports: Blacknight active
anzelotte well of abyss 2	Posted - 2016.11.18 11:41:07 - [606] - Quote add a skill rank to tooltips for skills in the character sheet. _and goddamn checkbox "hide all lvl5 skills"_
non judgement Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance 875	Posted - 2016.11.18 12:10:55 - [607] - Quote Ascension is at version 1.4 now? Okay... Eve Online Ascension v1.0.4 would have been good enough, don't you think? Doesn't v1.1 really require more to be done than just small patches? Actually, it should be good... I can't wait for that Ascension v3.0 update, when you've only changed some text somewhere.
John WarpingSlow 122	Posted - 2016.11.18 12:29:14 - [608] - Quote Maxim Gorkij wrote: Now try to imagine the owners changing it on all future dvd's or whatever medium it will be sold on Indeed. 1) "Demolition Man" changing references from Taco Bell to Pizza Hut. 2) The digital edits, insertions, and rearrangements done to Star Wars. Ugh.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:30:18 - [609] - Quote Quote: Because the new voice of Aura was apparently dubbed by a duck, we want CCP propose an option to choose the original voice or the "ducky" one. Please bring back Aura's voice ! Save your ears ! Sign the petition !! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again Well, I would sing that petition if you had not chose an petition site that requires a compulsory donation.
Voxinian 128	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:32:07 - [610] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: Everyone knows CCP are stubborn but I think that they might have a change of heart. They did after all change the "Docking request excepted" original offering to the correct pronunciation "Docking request accepted" If more people had logged on to Sisi whilst Ascension was being tested CCP may have had more adverse comments about the new Aura. We did try and partly succeeded. Now Ascension is in the wild we'll see if the cries of anguish have any more effect. Here's hoping they will. I am personally surpised that the new voice made it through quality control (I asume it needs to be aproved first before it's added)... and I am even more surpised that if the new voice was available on the test server that the players didn't speak up about it (it's your fault too dear testers). This new voice could have been avoided, but nobody stepped on the brakes.

Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:40:53 - [611] - Quote Voxinian wrote: Jaxon Grylls wrote: Everyone knows CCP are stubborn but I think that they might have a change of heart. They did after all change the "Docking request excepted" original offering to the correct pronunciation "Docking request accepted" If more people had logged on to Sisi whilst Ascension was being tested CCP may have had more adverse comments about the new Aura. We did try and partly succeeded. Now Ascension is in the wild we'll see if the cries of anguish have any more effect. Here's hoping they will. I am personally surpised that the new voice made it through quality control (I asume it needs to be aproved first before it's added)... and I am even more surpised that if the new voice was available on the test server that the players didn't speak up about it (it's your fault too dear testers). This new voice could have been avoided, but nobody stepped on the brakes. They seem very tetchy when anyone mentions the problems with the old voice. As if there is some kind of emotional connection there. Perhaps the new Aura is a wife / girlfriend / daughter of one of the members of CCP?
Toippo Tokila Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:43:26 - [612] - Quote Petition #309919 I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension. For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but IGÇÖm less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5. I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I canGÇÖt see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:56:07 - [613] - Quote Toippo Tokila wrote: Petition #309919 I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension. For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but IGÇÖm less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5. I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I canGÇÖt see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone. Silly question. Are you and Alpha clone or an Omega clone currently? If you are an Alpha skills are limited to race and very few level 5 skills. However if you re-activate Omega state (sub) you get your skills back, they are just suspended during Alpha state.
Toippo Tokila Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:57:42 - [614] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Toippo Tokila wrote: Petition #309919 I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension. For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but IGÇÖm less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5. I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I canGÇÖt see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone. Silly question. Are you and Alpha clone or an Omega clone currently? If you are an Alpha skills are limited to race and very few level 5 skills. However if you re-activate Omega state (sub) you get your skills back, they are just suspended during Alpha state. I'm an Omega clone.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2016.11.18 13:59:38 - [615] - Quote Toippo Tokila wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: Toippo Tokila wrote: Petition #309919 I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension. For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but IGÇÖm less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5. I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I canGÇÖt see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone. Silly question. Are you and Alpha clone or an Omega clone currently? If you are an Alpha skills are limited to race and very few level 5 skills. However if you re-activate Omega state (sub) you get your skills back, they are just suspended during Alpha state. I'm an Omega clone.
Iwo Sh'ivah Republic University Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2016.11.18 14:01:44 - [616] - Quote Voxinian wrote: Jaxon Grylls wrote: Everyone knows CCP are stubborn but I think that they might have a change of heart. They did after all change the "Docking request excepted" original offering to the correct pronunciation "Docking request accepted" If more people had logged on to Sisi whilst Ascension was being tested CCP may have had more adverse comments about the new Aura. We did try and partly succeeded. Now Ascension is in the wild we'll see if the cries of anguish have any more effect. Here's hoping they will. I am personally surpised that the new voice made it through quality control (I asume it needs to be aproved first before it's added)... and I am even more surpised that if the new voice was available on the test server that the players didn't speak up about it (it's your fault too dear testers). This new voice could have been avoided, but nobody stepped on the brakes. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332&find=unread
Crystalline Entity Outdated Host Productions Darwinism. 50	Posted - 2016.11.18 14:24:23 - [617] - Quote Actually quite like this patch. Only relevant comment: I don't like the new requirements window much. Before it was obvious what skills needed training to what level... now it's a little more confusing I think. We won't go back to the colour coding I get it.. but more visual clarity would be better.
msTokkoTai Global Intelligence Agency 3	Posted - 2016.11.18 14:24:30 - [618] - Quote No more money for CCP until the original AuraGÇÖs voice is restored.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2016.11.18 14:27:49 - [619] - Quote msTokkoTai wrote: No more money for CCP Snip Because they will not restore the original. They might improve the current one, but who knows?
Voxinian 129	Posted - 2016.11.18 14:33:10 - [620] - Quote Iwo Sh'ivah wrote: Voxinian wrote: Jaxon Grylls wrote: Everyone knows CCP are stubborn but I think that they might have a change of heart. They did after all change the "Docking request excepted" original offering to the correct pronunciation "Docking request accepted" If more people had logged on to Sisi whilst Ascension was being tested CCP may have had more adverse comments about the new Aura. We did try and partly succeeded. Now Ascension is in the wild we'll see if the cries of anguish have any more effect. Here's hoping they will. I am personally surpised that the new voice made it through quality control (I asume it needs to be aproved first before it's added)... and I am even more surpised that if the new voice was available on the test server that the players didn't speak up about it (it's your fault too dear testers). This new voice could have been avoided, but nobody stepped on the brakes. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332&find=unread I stand corrected. They added it dispite the testers feedback.

She11by Big Boys Don't Cry Kids With Guns Alliance 8	Posted - 2016.11.18 15:21:35 - [621] - Quote Jegug Gyohoe wrote: Because the new voice of Aura was apparently dubbed by a duck, we want CCP propose an option to choose the original voice or the "ducky" one. Please bring back Aura's voice ! Save your ears ! Sign the petition !! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again +1, Aura come back we got cookies
Julia Reave The Scope Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2016.11.18 15:30:17 - [622] - Quote Gallente alphas can't train Defender Missiles I (which should be trainable by Gallente Alphas judging by Level I being represented by a small grey square), since they can't train Missile Launcher Operation II (only I), which is a prerequisite. Caldari alphas do not have the issue, they can train Missile Launcher Operation V. Haven't checked on the other races yet.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2016.11.18 15:36:19 - [623] - Quote Julia Reave wrote: Gallente alphas can't train Defender Missiles I (which should be trainable by Gallente Alphas judging by Level I being represented by a small grey square), since they can't train Missile Launcher Operation II (only I), which is a prerequisite. Caldari alphas do not have the issue, they can train Missile Launcher Operation V. Haven't checked on the other races yet. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/ Gallente use Drones. Seems they do not have access to missiles past level 1. "GallenteDrones5Drones" "GallenteMissile Launcher Operation1Missiles"
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 34	Posted - 2016.11.18 15:52:27 - [624] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Quote: Because the new voice of Aura was apparently dubbed by a duck, we want CCP propose an option to choose the original voice or the "ducky" one. Please bring back Aura's voice ! Save your ears ! Sign the petition !! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again Well, I would sign that petition if you had not chose an petition site that requires a compulsory donation. ^ This
Julia Reave The Scope Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2016.11.18 16:05:05 - [625] - Quote Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: Edwin Zavut wrote: Or make possible to choose it. Choice is never a bad thing. Off-topic, but regarding choice always being good, this might be interesting: https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice
Julia Reave The Scope Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2016.11.18 16:19:40 - [626] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Julia Reave wrote: Gallente alphas can't train Defender Missiles I (which should be trainable by Gallente Alphas judging by Level I being represented by a small grey square), since they can't train Missile Launcher Operation II (only I), which is a prerequisite. Caldari alphas do not have the issue, they can train Missile Launcher Operation V. Haven't checked on the other races yet. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/ Gallente use Drones. Seems they do not have access to missiles past level 1. "GallenteDrones5Drones" "GallenteMissile Launcher Operation1Missiles" Yeah, I get it. It's just that Defender Missiles shows as "can train to I" going by the grey square for Level I, which might be a bit misleading, since you can't train the prerequisite.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2016.11.18 17:24:30 - [627] - Quote Julia Reave wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: Julia Reave wrote: Gallente alphas can't train Defender Missiles I (which should be trainable by Gallente Alphas judging by Level I being represented by a small grey square), since they can't train Missile Launcher Operation II (only I), which is a prerequisite. Caldari alphas do not have the issue, they can train Missile Launcher Operation V. Haven't checked on the other races yet. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/introducing-clone-states-and-the-future-of-access-to-eve-online/ Gallente use Drones. Seems they do not have access to missiles past level 1. "GallenteDrones5Drones" "GallenteMissile Launcher Operation1Missiles" Yeah, I get it. It's just that Defender Missiles shows as "can train to I" going by the grey square for Level I, which might be a bit misleading, since you can't train the prerequisite. +1 For that. It has a "grey" "button" so I agree it is misleading, even if when you hover over it, it says "Omega status required".
Philippa Padecain Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 18:20:02 - [628] - Quote I am unable to use a skill extractor on one of my characters. I have 5.5m+ skillpoints. I am in a pod. I have cleared my skill queue. I have +4 implants but have Cybernetics 4 , and I have no clones elsewhere. The error message I get is GÇ£The request for skill extraction failed verification. Please try again.GÇ¥
Predator Ace Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.18 19:06:38 - [629] - Quote Hello everyone ! I was playing EVE Online from 2012-2014 years. And now thanks for this update, i have a chance to came back and play for free like a Alpha clone. Its very important to me to be able to play if, especially i cant buy plex, cuz i dont have enought of time to buy it(i play like 2 days per week). But CCP also gets profit of it, cuz Im increasing the online. I dont see any negetive sides of this update, and hope CCP will move in the same way, as they are moving now. So, thanks to CCP Games for this update, its just awesome on my think. Sorry for my english.
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 487	Posted - 2016.11.18 19:13:16 - [630] - Quote Does anyone else see an issues with this: Skill requirements I can rage every time I try to refit in space with what I have with me, hastily checking mods and throwing them on - and then noticing that I can't use them, because all the signal color warnings have been removed in favor of stupid blocks and some minute numbers in thin blue, Which tell you by the way how long you have to train the skill, if you had bought and injected it. Useless rubbish. Please revert this to the old info, this helps nobody and reversing signal colors from warnings (into blue, which signifies Info) for the sake of omega 'advertisement' is dumb and the intent behind it despicable. !!! WE ARE ALREADY OMEGA; STOP THE FORCED ADVERTISEMENT ON US !!!

Frances Voltaire Eldorado Exhumers 2	Posted - 2016.11.18 19:27:13 - [631] - Quote Apparently you get a weapons timer when you boost. While this makes sense for Shield Armor Info and Skirmish, but Mining Boosts? Armor, Shield, Info and Skirmish boosts can be used to own advantage against others so it makes sense you get a weapon timer on these whether you do or do not attack another. Mining Boosts can only be used for self while they can improve your ability to harvest ICE Rocks and Gas, they provide 0 combat advantage. There is no way to use them offensively against another player or even NPC. There does not seem to be a reason to have a weapons timer while boosting miners. However, you can boost while in warp. Not sure what that will be used for.
msTokkoTai Global Intelligence Agency 7	Posted - 2016.11.18 19:32:39 - [632] - Quote I wish I never knew the original AuraGÇÖs voice, because it makes me HATE THE NEW AURAGÇÖs VOICE.
Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 145	Posted - 2016.11.18 20:15:14 - [633] - Quote I've trawled through most of the posts on this thread but cannot find any mention of a change that is annoying me greatly. In PI (always a clickfest) the build and scan buttons used to be at the top of the menu.. Now for reasons unknown they have been moved to the bottom. Apart from breaking my muscle memory the change means that the drop down menu appears above the buttons. Apart from making you traverse the whole of the menu in a direction contrary to the idea of a "drop down menu" it looks ugly and feels wrong. It would really make sense to put those buttons back where they have always been at the top of the so called "drop down menu" so that it could actually drop down and then all you have to do is move down to the item of your choice. Change is one thing but this just smacks of "change for change's sake" and turns a mundane operation into a horrible, uncomfortable mess.
Fer'isam K'ahn SAS Veterinarians 487	Posted - 2016.11.18 20:22:15 - [634] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: ... Change is one thing but this just smacks of "change for change's sake" and turns a mundane operation into a horrible, uncomfortable mess. Same goes for the info icon in the fitting window, was moved from top right to top left, I always click on the capacitor arrow now out of reflex. There was absolutely no need to move that icon.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 31	Posted - 2016.11.18 21:06:39 - [635] - Quote Jegug Gyohoe wrote: Because the new voice of Aura was apparently dubbed by a duck, we want CCP propose an option to choose the original voice or the "ducky" one. Please bring back Aura's voice ! Save your ears ! Sign the petition !! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again CCP, could you please sticky this ?
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 31	Posted - 2016.11.18 21:14:02 - [636] - Quote Just a quick analogy to real life regarding Aura's voice, dedicated to Nightwish fans : CCP fired Tarja and hired Anette.
Nethod The Scope Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2016.11.18 21:23:04 - [637] - Quote First thing I noticed, all the skills in yellow I paid for already but am not allowed to use. Or if your a **** - "I paid for enough server access time to allot myself those skills" Either way, I paid you guys already for some previous content is the way I am seeing it and will not get more money by holding my old skills hostage. Screw you CCP.
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 38	Posted - 2016.11.18 21:24:16 - [638] - Quote Feodor Mihailovici wrote: Just a quick analogy to real life regarding Aura's voice, dedicated to Nightwish fans : CCP fired Tarja and hired Anette. That. Exactly that. Perfect analogy. That makes me so sad (x2).
Jegug Gyohoe MCSLC 32	Posted - 2016.11.18 21:33:24 - [639] - Quote Feodor Mihailovici wrote: Jegug Gyohoe wrote: Because the new voice of Aura was apparently dubbed by a duck, we want CCP propose an option to choose the original voice or the "ducky" one. Please bring back Aura's voice ! Save your ears ! Sign the petition !! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again CCP, could you please sticky this ? Would be nice, i really miss the original voice, cpp please let us know if you are gonna change it, or at least an option to have the right to choose which voice we want.
Ocean Ormand Bagel and Lox 38	Posted - 2016.11.18 21:53:57 - [640] - Quote Nethod wrote: First thing I noticed, all the skills in yellow I paid for already but am not allowed to use. Or if your a **** - "I paid for enough server access time to allot myself those skills" Either way, I paid you guys already for some previous content is the way I am seeing it and will not get more money by holding my old skills hostage. Screw you CCP. And this right here is why freemium suxs. Entitled wankers. You were warned CCP. You did it to yourselves. Hope you enjoy your new "too cheap to pay" customers - they didnt want to pay before, they are not going to pay now.

Ix Method Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 511	Posted - 2016.11.18 22:26:29 - [641] - Quote Wondering if letting Alphas access Contracting I has been considered? Shuffling stuff between alts is kind of a ballache with just the single contract available, no trading and no quick way to switch characters. Travelling at the speed of love.
Countess Markievicz Eyememyne 7	Posted - 2016.11.18 22:53:49 - [642] - Quote Just out of curiosity, did CCP actually test the new Aura voice in any way before it was inflicted upon us? A group of CCP employees sitting around a table telling each other that they are, 'super excited' about the new voice does not count. `Addicted to Eve`
Anna Maria Yolo Neutron Blaster Solutions 23	Posted - 2016.11.18 22:54:12 - [643] - Quote I have a big problem. CCP mailing system doesn't send verification codes at my google address. I informed about this Customer Support. GM Katsanis changed the email address in my accounts to the address that DOESN'T BELONG TO ME I informed Customer Support about this and replied GM Spartan. He asked about the another email address, and DIDN'T REMOVE NOT MY ADDRESS FROM MY ACCOUNTS. I have sent the new address to the Customer Service and nothing happened. MY ACCOUNTS STILL HAVE NOT MY EMAIL ADDRESS TICKET 298066
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 583	Posted - 2016.11.19 01:18:08 - [644] - Quote follow up post: Regarding the new character sheet 3D pilot image: If you decided that it should stay as it is, can you at least put the generic background in the character creation tool and make it clear that this background is what you will mostly see yourself in front of so that players can, while making a character at least be able to take that fact into account when crafting your image. * before anyone starts spewing, 'you can re-sculpt you know', yes i know, thanks. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Dazzlin Flame Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 13	Posted - 2016.11.19 01:22:23 - [645] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: follow up post: Regarding the new character sheet 3D pilot image: If you decided that it should stay as it is, can you at least put the generic background in the character creation tool and make it clear that this background is what you will mostly see yourself in front of so that players can, while making a character at least be able to take that fact into account when crafting your image. * before anyone starts spewing, 'you can re-sculpt you know', yes i know, thanks. Luckily you can minimize that 1 part of the character sheet.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 583	Posted - 2016.11.19 01:36:21 - [646] - Quote Dazzlin Flame wrote: Maldiro Selkurk wrote: follow up post: Regarding the new character sheet 3D pilot image: If you decided that it should stay as it is, can you at least put the generic background in the character creation tool and make it clear that this background is what you will mostly see yourself in front of so that players can, while making a character at least be able to take that fact into account when crafting your image. * before anyone starts spewing, 'you can re-sculpt you know', yes i know, thanks. Luckily you can minimize that 1 part of the character sheet. But my posts should make clear that i do want to see my image enlarged periodically, that is the concern really, but yes i could get rid of it altogether. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
SeVenNight Deng Tai-Chi Northern Coalition. 29	Posted - 2016.11.19 01:55:22 - [647] - Quote Maldiro Selkurk wrote: follow up post: Regarding the new character sheet 3D pilot image: If you decided that it should stay as it is, can you at least put the generic background in the character creation tool and make it clear that this background is what you will mostly see yourself in front of so that players can, while making a character, at least be able to take that fact into account when crafting your image. * before anyone starts spewing, 'you can re-sculpt you know', yes i know, thanks. I just minimize it cause it is dumb as ****
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 249	Posted - 2016.11.19 02:19:51 - [648] - Quote Yesterday i was able to start my main omega account beyond character selection, while i had a new alpaca online, both station spinning. Both on the same pc. Is that a bug or a feature. I thought that should not be impossible on the same pc. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2016.11.19 08:08:49 - [649] - Quote Countess Markievicz wrote: Just out of curiosity, did CCP actually test the new Aura voice in any way before it was inflicted upon us? A group of CCP employees sitting around a table telling each other that they are, 'super excited' about the new voice does not count. They did indeed "test" it on sisi. But Ignored all our feedback on it. See this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332 However they did change docking excepted to accepted so we know changes are possible.. She doesnt sound that bad in the NPE. Seems the production value on the phrases we hear the most is just poor. Whoever past those through QA needs a serious talking to. CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna A quote from CCP in 2011: "In the months leading up to Incarna, we failed to properly acknowledge the sentiment of the community and I think that's a lesson we've learned extremely hard," said Gylfason, adding that it's "hopefully a mistake we're never going to make again."
Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 147	Posted - 2016.11.19 09:07:10 - [650] - Quote Countess Markievicz wrote: Just out of curiosity, did CCP actually test the new Aura voice in any way before it was inflicted upon us? A group of CCP employees sitting around a table telling each other that they are, 'super excited' about the new voice does not count. Yes they did. Those of us who logged in to Sisi did try to tell CCP that the new voice was not a pleasant experience but like a lot of things the devs. seemed more interested in the new explosions than actually listening to the test reports. One thing did get sorted out the "Docking request accepted" message was fixed as it originally said "Docking request excepted". If more people had bothered to log in to Sisi when CCP were testing out Ascension they might have been forced to listen a bit harder than they have. We tried but so far have had no luck in getting the new Aura modified.

Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 147	Posted - 2016.11.19 09:12:03 - [651] - Quote I have had difficulty in trying to see what has been said about the various topics that have come up since Ascension was released. It's hard and getting harder to keep on top of all that is being posted in this thread so I have a suggestion: Would it be possible to split up this discussion into separate threads one dealing with the UI, logon issues, Aura and so on? Maybe it's too late for that but it might of helped in trying to see the wood for the trees .
Countess Markievicz Eyememyne 9	Posted - 2016.11.19 11:23:01 - [652] - Quote Quazided wrote: Countess Markievicz wrote: Just out of curiosity, did CCP actually test the new Aura voice in any way before it was inflicted upon us? A group of CCP employees sitting around a table telling each other that they are, 'super excited' about the new voice does not count. They did indeed "test" it on sisi. But Ignored all our feedback on it. See this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332 However they did change docking excepted to accepted so we know changes are possible.. She doesnt sound that bad in the NPE. Seems the production value on the phrases we hear the most is just poor. Whoever past those through QA needs a serious talking to. CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna A quote from CCP in 2011: "In the months leading up to Incarna, we failed to properly acknowledge the sentiment of the community and I think that's a lesson we've learned extremely hard," said Gylfason, adding that it's "hopefully a mistake we're never going to make again." Am I being unreasonable by suggestion that if CCP Falcon was involved in any way shape or form, that he will argue that the two people who like the new Aura, represent overwhelming support for the new Donald Duck on speed voice? CCP Falcon has form in this regard. `Addicted to Eve`
Elaine Eza Blue Nova Corp. 3	Posted - 2016.11.19 11:35:27 - [653] - Quote The new character information sheet is terrible. I cannot see how it supposed to be an improvement. The 3D-Portrait looks very ugly (low quality) and it does not reflect my carefully arranged portrait pose. The new aura sounds are terrible aswell. Listening to them- it just leaves me wondering WHY??
Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2016.11.19 12:19:58 - [654] - Quote Countess Markievicz wrote: Quazided wrote: Countess Markievicz wrote: Just out of curiosity, did CCP actually test the new Aura voice in any way before it was inflicted upon us? A group of CCP employees sitting around a table telling each other that they are, 'super excited' about the new voice does not count. They did indeed "test" it on sisi. But Ignored all our feedback on it. See this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=496332 However they did change docking excepted to accepted so we know changes are possible.. She doesnt sound that bad in the NPE. Seems the production value on the phrases we hear the most is just poor. Whoever past those through QA needs a serious talking to. CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna A quote from CCP in 2011: "In the months leading up to Incarna, we failed to properly acknowledge the sentiment of the community and I think that's a lesson we've learned extremely hard," said Gylfason, adding that it's "hopefully a mistake we're never going to make again." Am I being unreasonable by suggestion that if CCP Falcon was involved in any way shape or form, that he will argue that the two people who like the new Aura, represent overwhelming support for the new Donald Duck on speed voice? CCP Falcon has form in this regard. I think youre correct and i suspect CCP's formula is something like this: Out of all our subs only a "few" have complained = overwhelming support! CCP have tried to cram too much into a single expansion again, I thought thats why they moved to a six week release schedule so we wouldnt get poor quality or broken features? I'd be happy with no major updates for a while if they used that time to fix all the bugs and add some of the "little things" we've been asking for, like a proper drone interface for example. I've muted Aura on all my accounts now. CCP Falcon has given us the answer: "nope"
Miss Miko Virtus Crusade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.19 13:42:35 - [655] - Quote Please CCP could you remove those new extreme big numbers when stacking items, and please remove the yellow surroundings for the omega only things. My hangar looks like a mix of telefone for old people and browser game!
Drizden D'Urden Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance 13	Posted - 2016.11.19 14:03:52 - [656] - Quote Bring back the old Aura voice !! You should really ask some feedback before you start changing things like that - us bitter-vets have loved our Aura for the last 10+ years. In fact, one of the best sexy things about Eve when I started playing. Now it sounds like a woman in a tin can !!!
Drago Hakuli Audier Holdings Inc 0	Posted - 2016.11.19 14:17:44 - [657] - Quote Apologies in advance, but I did a bit of a tl;dr on the thread past page 18 or so... I don't mind the new Aura. I preferred the old voice, sure, but I'm equally not going to go berserk over the new one. I'll deal with it. The two main grievances I have with the new UI, though, are the new Character Sheet / Training Queue and those goddamn tooltips. The char sheet needs some work, specifically on the skills tab. The skill categories aren't in any sort of order, or if they are it's beyond me what it is; the icons aren't brilliant, which means when I minimise the categories so I have more space for the queue I don't easily find what i'm looking for; the queue itself shouldn't be tacked into the char sheet, it worked much better as a separate window; and, finally, the actual representation of skills is poor. On the plus side, you have at least added the SP counts back in the tool tip which was not there when I played on SiSi to test. The tool tips are not inherently a bad idea, but they show up way too quickly. If I so much as skim something with my cursor, I get a tool tip. The delay should be longer so that you have to actually hover and wait, maybe two seconds, before they appear. Not just "oh, your mouse is over the icon for [insert module here] so have a tool tip!" On the upside? The new explosions are cool.
Jones Beach Bagel and Lox 7	Posted - 2016.11.19 14:21:12 - [658] - Quote There is a fundamental problem with the way the new on grid skirmish boosters work - lets say you have some fast kittie guy flying at around 100k - you send your interceptors out after him - the target starts burning away and your interceptors go in chase. Your command ships cant keep pace with your tackle. which means that when the extended point range would be most useful to catch these fast flying cancer ships - you have outpaced your boosts and will not have them. Also the new character sheet is awful. Totally useless. Its almost as if a blind guy designed it.
Iwo Sh'ivah Republic University Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2016.11.19 14:40:14 - [659] - Quote Quazided wrote: CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna I'm in. Sooner the better
Mak Ka H.TK hisec carebear training institute 0	Posted - 2016.11.19 14:45:00 - [660] - Quote omg! you changed aura's voice... now I have no reason to hear sounds from eve client but muted it. plz give us choice to select voices.

Crosi Wesdo War and Order 2034	Posted - 2016.11.19 16:26:43 - [661] - Quote Sorry for going on about the character sheet. But it makes me angry on the inside every time i look at it. What am i even looking at? Unbelievable that such a mess got onto TQ. New low for CCP.
Milus School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.19 17:18:12 - [662] - Quote A bug has been occuring where the ice anom's fail to despawn when empty. When this happens they won't respawn at all. I now know why this happens - every time an ice harvester drone gets the last piece of ice, this bug occurs.
LeFleur EVE University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2016.11.19 18:22:46 - [663] - Quote First of all, I like the new expansion and love the fitting simulator and new character sheet, as well as the rework on the boosting system. The only issue I have so far is the Aura voice. I know that using the old one is out of the question, because you are using a lot of audio in the NPE and for consistency it has to remain equal. What I proppose is add some postproccesing to the new Aura. I've been listening to some old Aura clips on soundlcoud and they had a sort of fullness achieved by audio effects that is simply not present in this new recording. So adding some processing to that audio could work wonders. Some of the audios also sound clipped because it seems like you used a technique used to say disclaimers, where they cut the spaces between words to make it sound quicker. I applaud you for getting the same actress to do the audios. Please do her work justice and give us a better Aura. Not the old, not this one, an Aura that works. All of this comes from the worst experience I had in Eve online so far. I heard Skill Training Complete and felt sad about it.
mo8b8 Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner 4	Posted - 2016.11.19 19:37:45 - [664] - Quote Bring back the old booster!!!!
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 987	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:04:37 - [665] - Quote Everyone remember that the CSM signed off on many of these changes that we find lacking, confusing, broken, or just an outright step back. Do we really want CCP wasting money on misleading opinions?
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 987	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:09:58 - [666] - Quote Philippa Padecain wrote: I am unable to use a skill extractor on one of my characters. I have 5.5m+ skillpoints. I am in a pod. I have cleared my skill queue. I have +4 implants but have Cybernetics 4 , and I have no clones elsewhere. The error message I get is GÇ£The request for skill extraction failed verification. Please try again.GÇ¥ Did you removed the skill you are trying to extract out of from the skill queue and hit save?
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 987	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:13:06 - [667] - Quote Toippo Tokila wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: Toippo Tokila wrote: Petition #309919 I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension. For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but IGÇÖm less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5. I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I canGÇÖt see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone. Silly question. Are you and Alpha clone or an Omega clone currently? If you are an Alpha skills are limited to race and very few level 5 skills. However if you re-activate Omega state (sub) you get your skills back, they are just suspended during Alpha state. I'm an Omega clone. Any reason to suspect that your account has been compromised? Sounds like you might have been victim of a skill extractor drive by.
KIller Wabbit MEME Thoughts 987	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:16:54 - [668] - Quote Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: The character sheet says: Train skills at 2X speed. I don't think this is true. I see no speed difference. It's a lame, and I mean lame as hell, marketing gimmick. You're training the speed you have always have. Alpha's are training at half speed. Alpha's don't have the big boy pants needed to be told they have half the brain power of real players.
Zeros Soliety Exp1orers Desman Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:24:20 - [669] - Quote New voice is terrible! We need old aura voice! Please make some choice "Try new Aura voice"
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:38:48 - [670] - Quote KIller Wabbit wrote: Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: The character sheet says: Train skills at 2X speed. I don't think this is true. I see no speed difference. It's a lame, and I mean lame as hell, marketing gimmick. You're training the speed you have always have. Alpha's are training at half speed. Alpha's don't have the big boy pants needed to be told they have half the brain power of real players. Yes, it should say "Alpha clone 1/2 speed" "Omega Clone NORMAL speed" Because.... that's what it is. FYI. I am an Alpha.

McNoTo Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner 10	Posted - 2016.11.19 22:47:13 - [671] - Quote mo8b8 wrote: Bring back the old booster!!!! the next useless update in eve after the dead from skynet. ccp dont like small pvp groups. politics are only for large groups/ alliances who have the manpower for bringing a active link char/ship into the fight and they also maybe dont care for passive bonus..............cause they can still blob. ccp fozzie, pls stop thinking in only one direction. stop stealing content from small groups. bye bye pvp marauder...
Mephiston Entreri Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.19 23:51:37 - [672] - Quote I cannot remove skills that were in my queue that are Omega-restricted to be able to train skills that are allowed to Alpha Clones. Those skills were in my queue when my subscription lapsed. I've experienced this now on multiple characters. Really, really annoying. It says to close your skill window and refresh. Doesn't work. So I cannot train anything I'm supposed to be allowed to train. How did this get past QA? Also, the new Aura is bloody awful. I'm sure the actress has talent and the performance isn't terrible but it's not the Aura I fell in love with when I started playing. I'd like a way to toggle the old Aura back on.
Jeven HouseBenyo Vanity Thy Name Is 426	Posted - 2016.11.20 02:57:06 - [673] - Quote Iwo Sh'ivah wrote: Quazided wrote: CCP will we have to attack a certain in game monument for you to listen to us? #incarna I'm in. Sooner the better At least we won't have to pay for the privilege of having a nice Incarna style monument bash this time. Free2Protest bad design choices? Bad Aura revamp? Lazy mouse-over addicted new character sheet/skill queue? CCP, you did some amazingly good things in Ascension. Alas, that good is overwhelmed by the bad changes made for what seems, yet again, as change for change's sake. Two steps forward, a half marathon in reverse. Why? Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel. 'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises. Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup. Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
James Frechette KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.20 03:55:49 - [674] - Quote Old Aura voice: New Aura voice: Please, please, PLEASE bring back the old voice. The old, dark, sexy voice!!!!!
Sky Marshal Core Industry. Circle-Of-Two 140	Posted - 2016.11.20 04:40:53 - [675] - Quote Hello, The infobox who appears when you hover an item of the inventory can become a real annoyance when you don't have the skill required to use the said item. Indeed, it can cover the item I really wanted to hover because when you don't have the required skill to use an item, it remains here as long that you stay in the infobox and so it hides my target. So I have to move the mouse outside the infobox to finally hover what I want. It happens too frequently when you have very specialized pilots (especialy traders who don't need to skill what they sell) and so become very annoying after a while. It will be a good thing if you can add a small delay before this infobox appears, 250 ms or any number who permit to avoid this annoyance. Still about this infobox, the font color of the estimated price of this infobox should be less dark to make it more readable.
Raw Matters Brilliant Starfire 87	Posted - 2016.11.20 07:59:51 - [676] - Quote KIller Wabbit wrote: Everyone remember that the CSM signed off on many of these changes that we find lacking, confusing, broken, or just an outright step back. Do we really want CCP wasting money on misleading opinions? Don't be so sure about that. For once you don't know what version has been presented to CSM, but you can be sure it wasn't the final version. And then CCP has ignored feedback from players on such a regular basis (like all the opposition to the new Aura voice on SiSi forum), that even if all CSMs had been protesting, it still might have ended up in the final version.
Pendra Tahyan Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2016.11.20 08:19:00 - [677] - Quote KIller Wabbit wrote: Toippo Tokila wrote: Balabhadra Das wrote: Toippo Tokila wrote: Petition #309919 I have experienced loss of skills since Ascension. For instance, I know for a fact that I have finished Torpedo 5, but now it shows that I only have Torpedo 4. I also suspect, but IGÇÖm less sure, that I have finished Covert Ops 5. I have been away from the game for a while, and only logged in on this character now. Looking at the history, I canGÇÖt see any updated skills since October 3 in the history tab. The character has been active and has trained for the whole time I was gone. Silly question. Are you and Alpha clone or an Omega clone currently? If you are an Alpha skills are limited to race and very few level 5 skills. However if you re-activate Omega state (sub) you get your skills back, they are just suspended during Alpha state. I'm an Omega clone. Any reason to suspect that your account has been compromised? Sounds like you might have been victim of a skill extractor drive by. It's confirmed by CCP that some players have lost SP:s due to some form of bug.
Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 153	Posted - 2016.11.20 08:52:50 - [678] - Quote Zeros Soliety wrote: "Try new Aura voice" They did give us a choice, it was called a testing server. I assume that you know how to log on to Sisi, so why didn't you? Those of us who did told CCP that the new voice was not up to the old one. They did change some of the pronunciation on "Docking request accepted" but as far as I can tell that's about all. Please, next time CCP has a big upgrade make sure that you use Sisi to wring out the bugs. We need a loud voice telling the devs. "This bit is wrong, please fix it out."
Leora Jomir Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.11.20 11:08:23 - [679] - Quote Bring back the old voice or at least get rid of the new one. It's awful!
senior thimpe E.C.H.O. Gentlemen's.Club 0	Posted - 2016.11.20 11:10:15 - [680] - Quote Sophia Mileghere wrote: Can you bring the old voice back? The old voice was slowly but the new one is to fast. Maybe we should choice ore voice (like the settings from a GPS)

Drago Hakuli Audier Holdings Inc 1	Posted - 2016.11.20 11:15:38 - [681] - Quote Ix Method wrote: Wondering if letting Alphas access Contracting I has been considered? Shuffling stuff between alts is kind of a ballache with just the single contract available, no trading and no quick way to switch characters. I might be alone in thinking this, but it would be logical that there are some inconveniences to playing what has been a subscription-only game for the past 13-ish years for free. I think it's going to be more a case of striking a balance between being sufficiently hindering that subscribing, and thus becoming an omega clone, is an attractive prospect but not so much that someone tries to do something as an alpha, can't, and then descends on the forums to post a lengthy elaborate "I'm quitting" post. Presumably that's why CCP are going to review the alpha's going forward...
Blue Sonja KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.20 14:19:57 - [682] - Quote Old AURA was as awesome as the new explosions.
John WarpingSlow 136	Posted - 2016.11.20 14:39:24 - [683] - Quote For those wanting the old Aura voice as an option, please consider supporting my post in the "Player Features and Ideas Discussion" section of the forums: Feature Request: User definable voice actor files This would provide the best of all worlds: a) New audio for those who want it (and you wouldn't have to do anything special for this, it'd just be the default.) b) Old Aura: Replace specific new Aura audio files with the old ones, as desired. c) Something else: Maybe you have an alliance member who has an awesome voice you want to use in place of Aura entirely? The effect would be client-side only, so it would only affect the single player's environment, nobody else.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 38	Posted - 2016.11.20 16:54:35 - [684] - Quote Guys, I propose a little experiment : all people who love the original Aura, let's downgrade to Alpha . Eve has become free-to-play, right ? So why pay CCP for stuff we hate ? We won't die a few months, but it remains to be seen whether we can say the same about CCP... CCP, you have been completely silent about this, you are ignoring veteran players' voices who have been playing this because it's "something else", more than a game . By fiddling with the core of Eve (yes, even "a voice" is part of that core), you are slowly turning this into the MMORPG around-the-corner... it's like Friends with one member of the original cast replaced .. It makes me not want to be a part of this anymore and it makes me genuinely sad. I know, I am free to choose something else, I am just saying I am sad for how great Eve has been so far and that this unique experience is starting to fade into something "for the masses". You don't have to try to compete with Star Citizen or other evolving MMORPGs to create a comparable NPE or just "compete" with them, Eve is Eve and has to remain this way, unique. Old Aura and small, "spartan" tutorials were just fine. This was the charm of the game, Think for yourself: what can YOU do to survive or make fortunes? Watch Youtube tutorials, read secrets and valuable information on sites (like Evelopedia which you took down), try to be ahead of other people with what YOU learn. Eve was/still is a game of thought. You will see beautifully crafted ships and missions on planets in Star Citizen that Eve won't ever have with the current graphics engine, but it doesn't need them either. On the other site, you won't see 3000 player battles and fortunes vanishing in minutes in any other MMORPG than Eve. Follow the core path this game asks for itself and that you have built and held in 13 years or so, not other marketing "feats" which rise and fall over time. Thank you.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2016.11.20 17:20:02 - [685] - Quote "The only lasting remnant of the accident was a tendency for her voice to sound metallic, but Excena later admitted that she loved the effect and had intentionally kept her voice like that." "Her metallic, worn voice was perfect for the task of voiceovers for the AI on capsuleer ships. The immortal Aura was born." https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/ #Reasons. #Change. #Nope.
Xela Kcaneoh The Pirates Of Orion 46	Posted - 2016.11.20 20:41:00 - [686] - Quote My leadership skills have been removed and replaced with different skills under a stupid new "Burst" system that doesn't allow the same tactics I trained the skills for. I paid for those skillpoints. Since you replaced my skills with DIFFERENT SKILLS, I should get my skillpoints back, and not this skill injector crap (70% deduction for being a loyal customer). The Requirements window is unclear and unhelpful, the info buttons on skills are missing and replaced with useless "counting blocks". If the required skill says "Electronics III", why do I need three blocks to show me what the number 3 means? The info button was way more useful; the old Requirements window was way better. Omega yellow on everything is annoying and ugly. I paid my subscription so don't ruin my inventory with yellow outlines; it makes this look like a crappy browser game. Aura recordings replaced with terrible re-recordings. Why?!! Basic audio processing is simple, there is no excuse for this kind of crap. Any decent sound engineer would tell you the same. Or anybody with ears. The new character sheet is horrible. It is WAY harder to see what is going on at-a-glance, and this arrangement is the worst possible way to utilize window space. I couldn't make it any worse if I tried. Please just stop with the updates. I prefer a game that stays the same when compared to this constant stream of crap that seems to flow from CCP Seagull's "new gamer environment". Seagull craps on everything.
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 24	Posted - 2016.11.20 20:56:00 - [687] - Quote Feodor Mihailovici wrote: Guys, I propose a little experiment : all people who love the original Aura, let's downgrade to Alpha . Eve has become free-to-play, right ? So why pay CCP for stuff we hate ? We won't die a few months, but it remains to be seen whether we can say the same about CCP... See the posts below: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6712627#post6712627 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6712732#post6712732 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6713143#post6713143 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6713730#post6713730 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6713915#post6713915 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6714032#post6714032 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6714043#post6714043 and any other post I have missed. You can always pay with your wallet. And that's what makes things move when your voice is not heard.
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 25	Posted - 2016.11.20 21:19:32 - [688] - Quote Coming to think of it: The Aura voice has changed for consistency reasons, due to the new NPE, but the following are happening: -The existing customers strongly dislike the new voice. -The new customers are unaware of what they are missing, and thus probably won't care that much of the new voice. -The new NPE is not available for existing customers. The only inconsistency I see, is that the Aura voice has changed for no apparent reason, and it doesn't match any new content voice for existing customers. I believe an eagle-eyed problem solver can spot a possible middle ground among the above...
forsak3n Viziam Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2016.11.20 21:20:05 - [689] - Quote '''The only lasting remnant of the accident was a tendency for her voice to sound metallic, but Excena later admitted that she loved the effect and had intentionally kept her voice like that." "Her metallic, worn voice was perfect for the task of voiceovers for the AI on capsuleer ships. The immortal Aura was born." CCP broke it's own lore lol. I returned after a few months break, to find this ducky voice and to be honest, it is the only change that made me to take into consideration a perma quit. This new Aura is worst as pay to win.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 44	Posted - 2016.11.20 23:27:59 - [690] - Quote Suggestion (to be in line with the lore and reality that the original actress can't do the NPE): have Aura "struggle" between the voices. "After the accident, Aura has had trouble with her voice. Sometimes we can hear the profound , epic voice that lead our ancestors to New Eden, sometimes it shifts to a metallic, new voice, which she can't control but loves nevertheless ..." And you can bring in some mixing audio effects for the original voice to blend it with the new voice. Have a random chance to hear the unchanged original, sometimes the mixed and sometimes the new. The new content can be only the new voice. Just my 0.02.

Skipper Riddles Ivory Vanguard 50	Posted - 2016.11.21 03:21:44 - [691] - Quote Sophia Mileghere wrote: Can you bring the old voice back? NOOooooo........! (: That would be a bad, bad thing.
Edward Olmops Gunboat Commando 356	Posted - 2016.11.21 11:49:05 - [692] - Quote Milus wrote: A bug has been occuring where the ice anom's fail to despawn when empty. When this happens they won't respawn at all. I now know why this happens - every time an ice harvester drone gets the last piece of ice, this bug occurs. That means someone could bring down all Ice supply in New Eden with a single Harvester Drone? Muhahahahah....
Anna Maria Yolo Neutron Blaster Solutions 25	Posted - 2016.11.21 12:59:14 - [693] - Quote I'm unable to log in on a few of my accounts, because CCP mailing system doesn't send the verification codes to my google mail. As I know I'm not the only one who expiriencing this kind of problem. I asked about help the customer support and after verification that the accounts belong to me I have sent the instruction how to fix in easy way all the problems with google email users. I use an email - lets say it is - [email protected] All my accounts are registered to this one address. But sometimes I used dots to separate the name: [email protected] or [email protected] For google they all are the same address. Google skips any dot in the address. You can separate the everyone character with a dot and you will still get the email at the basic address (without any dots). You just cannot put two or more dots in a row. I received all emails sent at the addresses with dots, but at the basic address (without any dot) no one verification code was received. Solving all requests raised by google accounts is very easy. It is enough to put a dot in the google name. Using this solution will help a lot fixing the account access problems. I was stupid enough to describe it to the friendly Customer Service: On November 17th I wrote: Quote: The best way to solve the problem is putting a dot "." in the address. You may solve all the requests for google addresses this way. Explanation: Google mail doesnt see dots in the accounts. For example: The address: [email protected] will receive an email sent at the adressess: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] The dots are just invisible for google mail system You may check it in the google mail manual (I've read about this a few years ago), or just create an address and try this. for me enough will be putting a dot for example after "eve" - like this [email protected] This will solve the problem, because I received all verification code for this email ([email protected]) with dots inserted. Only the basic address (without dots) doesn't work. Best regards What answer did I receive? Quote: GM Katsanis (EVE Online) Nov 17, 19:50 UTC Hi there, I have now updated the email associated with your accounts to [email protected]. The accounts are: Axxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxxx Cxxxxxxxxx Gxxxxxxxxx Gxxxxxxxxx Jxxxxxxxxx Jxxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxxx Nxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx Yxxxxxxxx If you have any further troubles, please feel free to update this petition. Fly safe! Best Regards, GM Katsanis CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| EVE Valkyrie I informed the customers support in all the possible way that the email address was changed by the friendly Customer Support consultant to the new one that doesn't belongs to me. What else can I do?
Anna Maria Yolo Neutron Blaster Solutions 25	Posted - 2016.11.21 13:14:02 - [694] - Quote I'm unable to log in on a few of my accounts, because CCP mailing system doesn't send the verification codes to my google mail. As I know I'm not the only one who expiriencing this kind of problem. I asked about help the customer support and after verification that the accounts belong to me I have sent the instruction how to fix in easy way all the problems with google email users. I use an email - lets say it is - [email protected] All my accounts are registered to this one address. But sometimes I used dots to separate the name: [email protected] or [email protected] For google they all are the same address. Google skips any dot in the address. You can separate the everyone character with a dot and you will still get the email at the basic address (without any dots). You just cannot put two or more dots in a row. I received all emails sent at the addresses with dots, but at the basic address (without any dot) no one verification code was received. Solving all requests raised by google accounts is very easy. It is enough to put a dot in the google name. Using this solution will help a lot fixing the account access problems. I was stupid enough to describe it to the friendly Customer Service: On November 17th I wrote: Quote: The best way to solve the problem is putting a dot "." in the address. You may solve all the requests for google addresses this way. Explanation: Google mail doesnt see dots in the accounts. For example: The address: [email protected] will receive an email sent at the adressess: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] The dots are just invisible for google mail system You may check it in the google mail manual (I've read about this a few years ago), or just create an address and try this. for me enough will be putting a dot for example after "eve" - like this [email protected] This will solve the problem, because I received all verification code for this email ([email protected]) with dots inserted. Only the basic address (without dots) doesn't work. Best regards What answer did I receive? Quote: GM Katsanis (EVE Online) Nov 17, 19:50 UTC Hi there, I have now updated the email associated with your accounts to [email protected]. The accounts are: Axxxxxxxxx Bxxxxxxxxx Cxxxxxxxxx Gxxxxxxxxx Gxxxxxxxxx Jxxxxxxxxx Jxxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxxx Mxxxxxxxx Nxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Pxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx Sxxxxxxxx Yxxxxxxxx If you have any further troubles, please feel free to update this petition. Fly safe! Best Regards, GM Katsanis CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| EVE Valkyrie I informed the customers support in all the possible way that the email address was changed by the friendly Customer Support consultant to the new one that doesn't belongs to me. What else can I do? Ticket 298066
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7971	Posted - 2016.11.21 14:08:01 - [695] - Quote I realise that the voices of the critics all too often go untempered by those of the satisfied, making the squeaky wheel seem like a bigger problem than it is. After spending a few days with the new features now, and enjoying them greatly, and having no problems so far, I'd like to say, well done CCP. Now fingers crossed that this new free-to-play system you've introduced goes well in the long run. So far so good, but it's really too soon to tell, isn't it. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Edward Olmops Gunboat Commando 356	Posted - 2016.11.21 14:43:59 - [696] - Quote Anna Maria Yolo wrote: I'm unable to log in on a few of my accounts, because CCP mailing system doesn't send the verification codes to my google mail. As I know I'm not the only one who expiriencing this kind of problem. I asked about help the customer support and after verification that the accounts belong to me I have sent the instruction how to fix in easy way all the problems with google email users. ... Whatever you do, you should not quote customer service replies on the forums. That is usually not well received. (sorry, that's not constructive, I know - just saying)
Cytherea Deesse University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.21 15:03:15 - [697] - Quote Philippa Padecain wrote: I am unable to use a skill extractor on one of my characters. I have 5.5m+ skillpoints. I am in a pod. I have cleared my skill queue. I have +4 implants but have Cybernetics 4 , and I have no clones elsewhere. The error message I get is GÇ£The request for skill extraction failed verification. Please try again.GÇ¥ Not sure, could it be that you need to have 2FA on? Think i read a place, that you can't skill extract without the 2FA, that way if you account is highjacked they can't get your skills?
Anna Maria Yolo Neutron Blaster Solutions 25	Posted - 2016.11.21 15:08:38 - [698] - Quote Edward Olmops wrote: Anna Maria Yolo wrote: I'm unable to log in on a few of my accounts, because CCP mailing system doesn't send the verification codes to my google mail. As I know I'm not the only one who expiriencing this kind of problem. I asked about help the customer support and after verification that the accounts belong to me I have sent the instruction how to fix in easy way all the problems with google email users. ... Whatever you do, you should not quote customer service replies on the forums. That is usually not well received. (sorry, that's not constructive, I know - just saying) Sure man. But for me it is not well received when I'm ignored. I didnt show all the emails from customer support. They know that happened and didnt change the wrong email address. I only have shown what and how happened, not the all correspondence. In addition if someone would read my email carefully he'd solve all gmail requiests in one easy update
Algarion Getz Aideron Corp 237	Posted - 2016.11.21 15:22:30 - [699] - Quote BURPDRIVE ACTIVE BURPDRIVE ACTIVE BURPDRIVE ACTIVE .... How did this go through quality assurance testing?
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2016.11.21 16:39:51 - [700] - Quote Algarion Getz wrote: BURPDRIVE ACTIVE BURPDRIVE ACTIVE BURPDRIVE ACTIVE .... How did this go through quality assurance testing? Just change it back to the old Aura. CCPlease. Its "ORK drive active" ;P

Xtank Atratus Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.11.21 17:31:10 - [701] - Quote Requesting an option for the real Aura voice.
Zid Freeman 0	Posted - 2016.11.21 20:52:49 - [702] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: Zeros Soliety wrote: "Try new Aura voice" They did give us a choice, it was called a testing server. I assume that you know how to log on to Sisi, so why didn't you? Those of us who did told CCP that the new voice was not up to the old one. They did change some of the pronunciation on "Docking request accepted" but as far as I can tell that's about all. Please, next time CCP has a big upgrade make sure that you use Sisi to wring out the bugs. We need a loud voice telling the devs. "This bit is wrong, please fix it out." agreed. Although I never saw and cant say I saw any effort or promotion of CCP requests for feedback on that issue at all (or any other really) but I'm fairly new so I'll put that down to me even if it might not be any mistake of mine. But still: Kinda important to be able to retain their old loyal paying player base I would have thought but.. hey, what do I know about loosing paying customers, right?
Zid Freeman 2	Posted - 2016.11.21 21:08:58 - [703] - Quote Trying to boil it down to the essence of it all (for me) on Aura: I'm (trying to be) in a dystopian future, not in a professional online commercial retail sales "environment" - so my greatest desire when playing EVE isn't exactly to feel like I'm in a WalMart/ commercial elevator / commercial interactive website catering to 14 year old boys who have an innate desperate need to feel some or any kind of artificial positive acceptance/ positive feedback from females.. (through no "fault" of their own of course - I might have enjoyed and appreciated it on a less than subtle level at 14 as well - due to genetics more than choice ), but even so - still - that kind of a "sales pitch" / PR 'technique' has as much place in EVE as the voice of Fran The Nanny would have in Blade Runner...
Zid Freeman 2	Posted - 2016.11.21 21:38:46 - [704] - Quote Sandor Kurovsky wrote: So far, things to note: The launcher fails to remember my accounts once it is closed. Each time I open it, I have to re-add my accounts. The new voice of Aura: At first I wasn't sure what "that noise" was that I kept hearing. I couldn't make out what it was saying because: 1) it was speaking too fast 2) the enunciation was extremely poor 3) the tone of the voice was too high pitched So, slow it down & make it a lower tone and for heaven's sake, ENUNCIATE! This. And: For some reason I still hear "Docking request 'axe-SETTED" (sic) :P :( - but yeah, only heard it twice on the first day, - immediately turned her off- and once yesterday to be sure before turning her off again).
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 35	Posted - 2016.11.21 23:02:58 - [705] - Quote So Still no official response form CCP on the really horrible Aura Voice? Not surprising....
Calaeus Fira New Eden's Best. 46	Posted - 2016.11.21 23:13:26 - [706] - Quote Fault24x wrote: So Still no official response form CCP on the really horrible Aura Voice? Not surprising.... What, you want yet another "Nope" response from the know-knothing-about-pr-and-community-management dev? Come on. They are probably just waiting for a good moment to close it and thank us for our feedback.
Little Fawn Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2016.11.21 23:19:07 - [707] - Quote Now that new characters start with decent skills, there is no need for the "Civilian Data Analyzer" or "Civilian Salvager" to exist. These just confuse new players, because it's not at all clear that they're useless outside the tutorial career missions. Could I suggest you remove these and give out Data Analyzer I and Salvager I (etc. etc.) in the career missions? (This comes up repeatedly in the E-UNI channel.) Thanks.
totalE red cross society 0	Posted - 2016.11.21 23:51:28 - [708] - Quote alpha clones - whatever, seen some people return, working as intended character sheet - gave me cancer, but its healing boost system - actually, kinda like it, as an fc, makes flying a COMMAND ship have purpose mining changes - who knows, never did any of that rock slinging ship explosions - turned off withing 10 seconds to cure the old bug that still persists, way to waste your time CCP BUT WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. i thought i would get used to it, but after running a fleet for around 12 hours yesterday, if i heard that "machine" say you have run out of ammo again i was gonna go nuts. used to be worth running out of capacitor just to hear her voice, now its like nails graiting on a chalk board WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? please change it back, if you listen to the players on not one single other thing, listen too us on this, new aura bad, mmkay
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 61	Posted - 2016.11.22 00:38:03 - [709] - Quote This thread reminds me of the feedback thread for the proposed change to Rapid Light Missile launchers a couple years back. No matter that no one had complained about them. No matter that no one wanted the proposed change. No matter that a weapon system that takes 40 seconds to reload would never get past the drawing board. After 30 or 40 pages of negative comments a dev came on and said we are going ahead with the change, most of the negative comments are by the same 20 people. Since then we are stuck with the hated reload time on RLM launchers. War reports: Blacknight active
Testy McTestyFace2 Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2016.11.22 12:52:15 - [710] - Quote You can't deny their logic.... keep this thread open for months, while everyone is continuing to play Eve until people just tire of leaving feedback anymore, and brand new players (with no perception of the old Aura or Character Sheet) begin to post their benign feedback. CCP will then cherry pick positive responses to those issues, and then cite then in their eventual response. It will go something like this: "We are pleased that most of you are enjoying Ascension. We realize it is impossible to please everybody* when we make changes to Eve Online, but we are going forward in continuing to make Eve the best it can be for new and old^ players alike." *most of the playerbase ^ we lied

Little Fawn Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2016.11.22 12:56:51 - [711] - Quote totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps?
MarkaureI Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.11.22 13:48:04 - [712] - Quote This new "Warp Drive Active" kills me. It is sooo bad. Everytime the new voice saying "Warp Drive Active", thoughts about my shopping list are taking over my brain. I can't help it. Pleeeaaase CCP. I already bought 2 x bar of soap, a cleaning rag, 3 avocado and even a Portable Clothing Dryer Rack (for my socks) today. I'm meeelting. ;-)
Jaxon Grylls Institute of Archaeology 155	Posted - 2016.11.22 13:59:42 - [713] - Quote Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? +1 to that. To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice. Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it.
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1947	Posted - 2016.11.22 14:59:21 - [714] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? +1 to that. To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice. Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it. Does it really feel better to be one of thousand of ignored instead of one of hundred? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2016.11.22 15:56:42 - [715] - Quote Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? No need to make the new voice as if she was on caffeine, badly enunciated and totally opposed to the lore written for Aura. "The only lasting remnant of the accident was a tendency for her voice to sound metallic, but Excena later admitted that she loved the effect and had intentionally kept her voice like that." "Her metallic, worn voice was perfect for the task of voiceovers for the AI on capsuleer ships. The immortal Aura was born." https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/ #ORK drahv active. #Dockingpermisisonrequesteddockingpermissiongranted.
Fault24x 9th Air Cavalry 40	Posted - 2016.11.22 16:18:06 - [716] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? +1 to that. To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice. Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it. You honestly think that would have mattered? Really? Seriously? SiSi sees what? maybe 0.5% of the player base?
Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2016.11.22 16:55:11 - [717] - Quote Fault24x wrote: Jaxon Grylls wrote: Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? +1 to that. To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice. Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it. You honestly think that would have mattered? Really? Seriously? SiSi sees what? maybe 0.5% of the player base? I heard the new Aura voice on a well known Youtube channel and for the first time ever logged into SISI to make sure I wasnt hearing things. Those of us who thought the new voice was terrible said so on the SISI feedback thread and were completely ignored. But to my knowledge there was no specific request from CCP asking for feedback regarding the new voice. In game I see lots of people complaining in local and corp chats but very few of them seem to care enough to come here and complain. Even when I suggest they do. Most people seem happy just to mute her. I assume CCP have made the decision to take the atmosphere of the game in another direction so the slower Aura has been replaced with the more fast pace one. This does not appear to be something they want to discuss coz the only reply we've had so far is "nope" I get why they had to change her = NPE I get why they want to change the atmosphere = to make the game seem more dynamic. But what I dont get is the poor production value of the phrases we hear the most. Come on CCP throw is a bone here, we just wonna hear a voice that doesnt drive us insane after hearing it for an hour. How that FC in an earlier post managed 12 hours I'll never know..
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 113	Posted - 2016.11.22 17:20:16 - [718] - Quote When character sheet portrait is minimised, the character name is no longer click-able to open the information window. Please fix. Edit. Also add the Race, Corporation and Alliance logos in minimised view. I will be refusing to view the new character sheet portrait. Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"*
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 113	Posted - 2016.11.22 17:31:24 - [719] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: "Her metallic, worn voice was perfect for the task of voiceovers for the AI on capsuleer ships. The immortal Aura was born." https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/ THIS says it all. Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Eski Minzin Veni Vidi Vici Inc 34	Posted - 2016.11.22 18:14:32 - [720] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? +1 to that. To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice. Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it. Just get off your high horse will you? It only makes perfect sense that now that Ascension has officially been deployed many more players will be exposed to these changes and therefore many more will feel the need to complain and/or give their feedback. Which is exactly what this thread was created for. Not only you, but also CCP should be more than intelligent enough to understand and expect this. So saying that now it's too late to complain or give feedback because that should've been done during the testing period makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Sure, if we had all voiced our complaints earlier, then CCP would've had the opportunity to do something about this issue sooner. But that isn't - in any way - a good enough reason for them to now hold their hands over their ears and ignore us. They know damn well that now that this update has been experienced by a much larger player base they will receive a much greater amount of feedback, and these people deserve to be heard just as much as those who happened to have experienced them during the testing period. Of course, I get your frustration. Believe me, I'm frustrated too. But instead of condemning everyone for not doing it sooner, I think that we should be glad that so many players are speaking their mind and are actually taking the time to write a complaint and give feedback on what's bothering them and how they think that things could be improved. Because that is the only way that we as consumers seem to be able to actually get things done in this day and age. By speaking up, and taking action. And it's never too late for that.

Eski Minzin Veni Vidi Vici Inc 34	Posted - 2016.11.22 18:15:19 - [721] - Quote apologies. double post. no idea what happened here
Eski Minzin Veni Vidi Vici Inc 34	Posted - 2016.11.22 18:16:05 - [722] - Quote double post
Jonn Kramer Corellian Trade Guild 1	Posted - 2016.11.22 22:19:44 - [723] - Quote Please. Bring back the old voice.
Amonios Zula Aeon Ascendant 72	Posted - 2016.11.22 23:30:08 - [724] - Quote One complaint with the new skills window ect. Even when the bars are minimised to just icons, I can't resize the obnoxiously large window to something more space friendly. Allowing for scroll bars to be called if need be and letting the window be shrunk down would be lovely.
Ami Lentz ScumLord Excavation and Evisceration ChaosTheory. 0	Posted - 2016.11.22 23:57:29 - [725] - Quote Please bring back the old Aura voice.......
Jo Phor Akimamur Industries Ocean's Night 0	Posted - 2016.11.23 00:11:23 - [726] - Quote Please let me select the voice of Aura that has grown very dear to me since i've started playing this game. I like almost all changes and the ones i don't like as much i can grow accustomed to i'm sure. But i was in sheer horror when i undocked and wanted to warp to a target. This has nothing to do with the new voice being bad (although some samples could definitly use a do-over) but much more with immersion and the "old Aura" being a very core component to this wonderful game for me. It's part of eves personality and the way i experienced eve from the beginning. I might as well stop calling it eve because currently it is a different game for me just because of what you or others might consider a "detail". I was a happy little camper when i found a "Voice Font" Option in the Menu only to realize that it had nothing to do with Aura but much more with Chat voices. As of now i'm pretty much devastated. I don't mind if the old voice actor is not available anymore and therefore you need to do introductions, new sounds/speeches or the sorts with a new voice. I wouldn't mind stories of Empires being told in different voices at all - if you want to use 4 different ones for each faction one. Just please let me/us have an option to at least hear the navigational commands and other snippets that do exist in the old variant again. o7 Jo
NaKiti Entgalle Dark Matter EXPRESS 0	Posted - 2016.11.23 02:24:41 - [727] - Quote If Aura gets to keep that voice she needs to be deployed in a ship floating around so we can pod her repeatedly until she is reborn, just so we can pod her again. What possessed CCP to hire Gilbert Godfrey's sister we will never know? I am now avoiding doing anything that will cause her to speak. So much for the engaging sounds of Eve.....!!!! Please bring back Aura....... Carol Channing would have been a better voice choice.......
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 34	Posted - 2016.11.23 02:25:03 - [728] - Quote Quazided wrote: I get why they had to change her = NPE Little Fawn wrote: Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? Actually no. I've said it before, subtly, I' ll make it blatant this time: The NPE is not available for existing customers. The Aura voice change happened only for existing customers. New customers only have this new voice. For consistency reasons, we need the Aura voice back. Solution A: Make Aura voice changeable. (Costs almost nothing.) Solution B: Restore Aura for everyone, and dub 4 different voices for the NPE, each for every faction.[credit:Jo Phor] Optional, make Aura voice changeable and include original Aura + the 4 new to choose from. You can even include Failaura for the kids:). (Costs a bit, but would be a professional solution.) Solution C: Ignore the customers. Lose the customers. Lose the game. (Cost analysis redundant) Plot twist: What if CCP is actually drowning and all this NPE and Alphas was one last try to get back to surface? If true, then they probably couldn't afford to pay 4 actors, or even the old actress for that matter. Speaking of which, why was Caroline Dalton out of the question for the dub?
NaKiti Entgalle Dark Matter EXPRESS 0	Posted - 2016.11.23 02:29:44 - [729] - Quote If they did it because they are drowning it is not for lack of accounts. I have 8 paying, and I don't believe I am the only one! Leave Aura for all of the things she had been saying.... Get a new voice for the tutorial... problem solved.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 63	Posted - 2016.11.23 02:59:18 - [730] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: "Her metallic, worn voice was perfect for the task of voiceovers for the AI on capsuleer ships. The immortal Aura was born." https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/ The immortal Aura is apparently only immortal up to a point. I don't know why the voice of the ship's computer AI has anything to do with the new player experience voice. The two could be separate. When I started playing, Aura's mysterious, ominous voice was a big part of the ambiance. War reports: Blacknight active

Joe McCrackman Lex Enterprises 4	Posted - 2016.11.23 12:52:13 - [731] - Quote The industry interface is somewhat of Berkeley Quality - it may work or may not, sometimes the Facilities tab is not even selectable, searching for Facilities is almost impossible. No network traffic no client activity just the spinning circle. Would be nice to have a possibility to define filter first and search afterwards not just search for what we are not inerested in. Sometimes the Jobs tab also fails to load, no fix untill now.
Zid Freeman 6	Posted - 2016.11.23 19:28:58 - [732] - Quote Jo Phor wrote: Please let me select the voice of Aura that has grown very dear to me since i've started playing this game. I like almost all changes and the ones i don't like as much i can grow accustomed to i'm sure. But i was in sheer horror when i undocked and wanted to warp to a target. This has nothing to do with the new voice being bad (although some samples could definitly use a do-over) but much more with immersion and the "old Aura" being a very core component to this wonderful game for me. It's part of eves personality and the way i experienced eve from the beginning. I might as well stop calling it eve because currently it is a different game for me just because of what you or others might consider a "detail". I was a happy little camper when i found a "Voice Font" Option in the Menu only to realize that it had nothing to do with Aura but much more with Chat voices. As of now i'm pretty much devastated. I don't mind if the old voice actor is not available anymore and therefore you need to do introductions, new sounds/speeches or the sorts with a new voice. I wouldn't mind stories of Empires being told in different voices at all - if you want to use 4 different ones for each faction one. Just please let me/us have an option to at least hear the navigational commands and other snippets that do exist in the old variant again. o7 Jo This
Clandestiny Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.11.23 20:24:28 - [733] - Quote The new voice of Aura sucks. Reykjavik, Iceland Finally Hit the World Map!
Drauqhk Shathet Gradient Electus Matari 0	Posted - 2016.11.24 01:50:35 - [734] - Quote I've put up with a lot of changes I didn't like over the past 12 years in Eve, but this is one of the worst. Get rid of this new Aura voice. If you can't use the old voice, then at least replace it with something that doesn't claw against the inside of my ears like a syphilitic cat screaming it's final death throes.
Brian Damage Outside Context Solutions 0	Posted - 2016.11.24 02:59:48 - [735] - Quote Love the new Aura voice. Not as good as the very first Aura voice, but better than the one we've had the last few years.
Nyctos Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2016.11.24 03:30:41 - [736] - Quote Jaxon Grylls wrote: Little Fawn wrote: totalE wrote: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO AURA. ... WHY, CCP, WHY ?!?!?!?!?!? Because they needed a lot of new dialogue and could not do it in the original voice, perhaps? +1 to that. To all the Omega clones moaning and bitching about the new Aura. Where were you when CCP gave us the chance to test out Ascension on Sisi? It's a little late now to say you don't like it. If you had just bothered to log in to the tests when they were being run you might have given those of us who did tell CCP that the new Aura wasn't working a louder voice. Things might change but next time they run a testing campaign, take part in it. It sounds like a lot of folks did complain about the new Aura voice during Sisi testing. CCP simply ignored them. As for the rest of us, some of us have real lives and don't have the luxury of being unpaid volunteers for CCP's QA team. When I play EVE it's to relax, not to work another job for no pay.
Jones Beach Bagel and Lox 7	Posted - 2016.11.24 04:27:36 - [737] - Quote there is no way to tell from the structure browser what bonuses you get from the rigs on the engineering complexes. There are numerous rigs with many different bonuses - there should be some way to tell with actually having to go to each and every structure how the ec's are configured.
Harrock Shvir Klungels second hand spaceshipparts Kids With Guns Alliance 0	Posted - 2016.11.24 13:31:45 - [738] - Quote Another vote for old Aura, new one feels out of place. Also not a massive fan of the new character sheet.
Timothy McManus Good Karma Industrial 0	Posted - 2016.11.24 13:43:31 - [739] - Quote Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die.
Caim Naberius Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 81	Posted - 2016.11.24 14:41:11 - [740] - Quote Timothy McManus wrote: Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die. Get off the rails.

Crosi Wesdo War and Order 2035	Posted - 2016.11.24 19:36:09 - [741] - Quote Ok, so. Its clear that you just want us to accept the character sheet redesign, even though its harder to perform the most basic function of finding a skill category due to a non alphabetical arbitrary sorting... Its clear that you insist on wasting large amounts of space with emptiness between grid items that would have been easier to use and more space economical in vertical alphabetically sorted lists like they used to be (not to mention any sane design for almost any data presentation on the world). You want change because its different, not because its better. In fact, you seem worryingly satisfied that your new design is actually terrible as though mindlessly achieving objectives dictated from a boardroom from people who dont play the game and are apparently clueless, is more important than delivering good iteration. But there are at least 2 things that will have to be fixed. 1) I never again want to see my real time 3d rendered portrait again. It looks like playstation 2 graphics. 2) The window must remember its horizontal width. The window is stackable, and should remain so, but it has to stop overriding other windows widths if they are open at the same time as it. Obviously, id rather a redesign to have alphabetically ordered lists in vertical panes, but i think that kind of advanced design work is a little out of CCPs league. Its staggering how much better the old character sheet served information with no fuss and with such an effective use of space. Its staggering how im here reminiscing over a basic information window in a game. Only CCP can take something so, normal, and replace it with something so wacky. I guess you dont appreciate the little things you have until CCP takes a huge dump on them, over and over again. I dont really care about the new aura voice, it doesnt sound as good, but whatever. The character sheet is a minor thing in the grand scheme of things. But the fact that this is the best CCP can come up with for such a simple feature (not to mention the inventory, map, dscan, camera etc), really makes me think that eve not really in safe hands.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2016.11.24 21:43:21 - [742] - Quote Caim Naberius wrote: Timothy McManus wrote: Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die. Get off the rails. Helpful? How? Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement?
Caim Naberius Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 82	Posted - 2016.11.24 22:12:31 - [743] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: helpful stuff Thanks bro, you're an angel. Where's the cookie in your post?
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1247	Posted - 2016.11.24 22:15:54 - [744] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Caim Naberius wrote: Timothy McManus wrote: Alphas Need just a little more wiggle room when it comes to making money. Most I can make is 4m isk/hour mining in a venture. It makes dreams of ever buying a 1.2billion isk plex hopeless. I figured Id play for free...not play for free til I die. Get off the rails. Helpful? How? Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides? You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :) https://www.eveproguides.com/alpha-clone-mining-venture-4-million-isk-per-hour/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqW5JXzK_1A&index=3&list=PLhkjPWNoQ3zBDhga82axsg6hSzD6oQsqZ https://www.thealphasguide.com/ https://www.eveproguides.com/ https://eve-guides.fr/images/wtd.jpg Being helpful to someone looking for advice is a good thing. Giving assistance to someone simply whining about restrictions set in place for the exact reason he is whining? Had Timothy come here asking for ways to increase earning potential with the skills he has available as a "free 2 Play" character, by all means offer any assistance you can - Whiners deserve the short shift. I spoke to a couple of Alpha players last night, earning 25 mil p/h running missions together. Restrictions obviously aren't that bad if you look outside the "I can't do that" box.. "Get off the rails" is the correct response. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Aischa Montagne Blut-Klauen-Clan 11	Posted - 2016.11.25 00:18:05 - [745] - Quote I do also not like the new Aura. I want to explain why on the Command warping. The new Aura speaks quicker, with a happiness in her tone. If your adrenaline pounds to your veins and you just ran from a lost battle, the least you want to hear is a voice that is happy about that you are just warping, maybe just saved your clone. So every time you are not happy, your Aura kicks you in the ass. Not a good ally. I think the idea that a voice that expresses happiness might be inviting for a new capsuleer to do what has to be done. But eve world is not happy, fluffy unicorns in space. you need a voice to ancor you on the experience you just had. get you down, prepare you. This is best done with a quiet, neutral, meditating voice. The old Aura had this qualities in my opinion. When you warped out of battle and your Adranilne pounds through your veins, Aura told you in a quiet voice that all is good and you can focus on your next step. It fitted to your action indipendant on your mood or purpose. Please go back to your Aura design board, and check your options. I do not think all has to be remade. Only those places where emotions play a big part. Thank you for the efforts. I like the general direction the tech decvelops into. Keep it going.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2016.11.25 01:53:29 - [746] - Quote Quote: Being helpful to someone looking for advice is a good thing. Giving assistance to someone simply whining about restrictions set in place for the exact reason he is whining? Had Timothy come here asking for ways to increase earning potential with the skills he has available as a "free 2 Play" character, by all means offer any assistance you can - Whiners deserve the short shift. I spoke to a couple of Alpha players last night, earning 25 mil p/h running missions together. Restrictions obviously aren't that bad if you look outside the "I can't do that" box.. "Get off the rails" is the correct response. Right. Always better to blast someone with elitism..... Yawn
Caim Naberius Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 82	Posted - 2016.11.25 02:27:18 - [747] - Quote Nothing is wrong with being helpful, but there's being helpful and then there's holding someone's hand. To me this is (still) a dark gritty sandbox where you should forge your own path and discover the mysteries on your own (or with your friends). It has nothing to do with elitism. Perhaps i was a bit blunt, but what i mean is 'think outside of the box' and don't expect this to be some 'railroad' game where you hop on the train and follow it till you can PLEX every month and flash purple fits. God forbid it ever turns into one.. Balabhadra Das wrote: Helpful? How? Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides? You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :) Balabhadra Das wrote: Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped? Who are you, or anyone, to judge that what i suggested is not helpful? Did you judge me because i don't sugarcoat things like you do?
Nyctos Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2016.11.25 11:03:52 - [748] - Quote Caim Naberius wrote: Nothing is wrong with being helpful, but there's being helpful and then there's holding someone's hand. To me this is (still) a dark gritty sandbox where you should forge your own path and discover the mysteries on your own (or with your friends). It has nothing to do with elitism. Perhaps i was a bit blunt, but what i mean is 'think outside of the box' and don't expect this to be some 'railroad' game where you hop on the train and follow it till you can PLEX every month and flash purple fits. God forbid it ever turns into one.. Balabhadra Das wrote: Helpful? How? Perhaps give him a little guidance and encouragement? Maybe a link to some guides? You know, brotherly human being kind of stuff. :) Balabhadra Das wrote: Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped? Who are you, or anyone, to judge that what i suggested is not helpful? Did you judge me because i don't sugarcoat things like you do? In EVE there is the neverending debate of how best for parents/adults to help children: hold their hand, throw them into the pool, or simply get down to the business of trying to eat them. :-)
VLAD VIRONS X-SENSE Security 28	Posted - 2016.11.25 11:46:19 - [749] - Quote I'm all for original Aura. Have nothing against emotional voice character, but even original Aura were doing it better.
Venus Zewana Sub Tech Cultura 24	Posted - 2016.11.25 12:46:49 - [750] - Quote CCPlease bring back the old Aura voice ! The new one is an absolutly NO GO! Why you make a new voice for Aura when the old one was absolutly perfect ??? I don`t get it CCP ! WHY ??? are you always stoned or what from the Fanfest ? Do you not listen to your voice records after recording and listen to the old and new ones ? Anybody who has Ears come to the same point like we all. The new voice of AURA is absolutly the worst thing now in Eve Online! Please CCP Please........ Or should we all fly now without AURA ? because I and a lot of Players HATE IT! WE HATE IT^^ Or give us a button where we can switch from the new **** to the old gold sexy voice! It`s like a slap in my Face! Here Play for Free but, cry cry cry everytime when you dock or undock. a hahahahaha

John Lawyer Jr Silicon Dreams Smile 'n' Wave 6	Posted - 2016.11.25 13:01:07 - [751] - Quote Just a reminder - ready to resub - waiting for the Aura fix. Any feedback, CCP?
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1247	Posted - 2016.11.25 13:06:40 - [752] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Quote: Being helpful to someone looking for advice is a good thing. Giving assistance to someone simply whining about restrictions set in place for the exact reason he is whining? Had Timothy come here asking for ways to increase earning potential with the skills he has available as a "free 2 Play" character, by all means offer any assistance you can - Whiners deserve the short shift. I spoke to a couple of Alpha players last night, earning 25 mil p/h running missions together. Restrictions obviously aren't that bad if you look outside the "I can't do that" box.. "Get off the rails" is the correct response. Right. Always better to blast someone with elitism..... Yawn Who are you, or anyone, to judge whether someone is "worthy" of being helped? I am who I am. I won't offer to help someone who opens up with a whine about how badly done by they are.. "Alphas need better this and better that", he made a choice to play for free and then wants to complain it is too hard. Give the guy 500K more SP to play with, it would still not be enough because he then can't make enough to buy a super, instead of a plex. I'm no elitist, I help new players whenever they ask, if I can't I try to refer them to someone who can - But don't bother whining to about how hard it is to make isk because your "free to play" account has limited skills, then expect me to go out of my way to help you. A positive request will always reap more assistance than telling me it is wrong that your account has limited skills, therefore slower isk making potential. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1247	Posted - 2016.11.25 13:10:23 - [753] - Quote John Lawyer Jr wrote: Just a reminder - ready to resub - waiting for the Aura fix. Any feedback, CCP? New (terribad) Aura is here to stay Devs interest in player feedback regarding this - Nil One Dev summed up CCP's respect for its loyal (paying) player base with one word - NOPE - Nothing more to be said.. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Phuzzy Logic Obsidian Maser 1	Posted - 2016.11.25 14:46:40 - [754] - Quote Please bring back the old voice or give us the option. She sounds like my ex-wife from 22 years ago... I am so tempted to shoot my speakers every time I forget to turn them off...
Zid Freeman 9	Posted - 2016.11.25 22:29:36 - [755] - Quote Aischa Montagne wrote: I do also not like the new Aura. I want to explain why on the Command warping. The new Aura speaks quicker, with a happiness in her tone. If your adrenaline pounds to your veins and you just ran from a lost battle, the least you want to hear is a voice that is happy about that you are just warping, maybe just saved your clone. So every time you are not happy, your Aura kicks you in the ass. Not a good ally. I think the idea that a voice that expresses happiness might be inviting for a new capsuleer to do what has to be done. But eve world is not happy, fluffy unicorns in space. you need a voice to ancor you on the experience you just had. get you down, prepare you. This is best done with a quiet, neutral, meditating voice. The old Aura had this qualities in my opinion. When you warped out of battle and your Adranilne pounds through your veins, Aura told you in a quiet voice that all is good and you can focus on your next step. It fitted to your action indipendant on your mood or purpose. Please go back to your Aura design board, and check your options. I do not think all has to be remade. Only those places where emotions play a big part. Thank you for the efforts. I like the general direction the tech decvelops into. Keep it going. THIS ! Absolutely one hundred percent frecking: THIS ! Bring Auras original voice back please
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2016.11.26 11:35:40 - [756] - Quote Old Aura fans, please keep this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=500415&p=2 And this petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again Alive. FYI, the petition does NOT require a donation, just skip when asked.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 50	Posted - 2016.11.26 13:16:12 - [757] - Quote VLAD VIRONS wrote: I'm all for original Aura. Have nothing against emotional voice character, but even original Aura were doing it better. Oh snap I never knew Aura was originally saying that ! This sounds like GlaDOS's mother, it's epic (and voice sounds the same to the Aura we all love and CCP needs to bring back, it was probably the same actress ?). True, the words are not very fitting to Eve's lore, but still .... hilarious.
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 50	Posted - 2016.11.26 13:23:51 - [758] - Quote Studying the number of likes on the original "bring back Aura" posts and number of signatures in the aforementioned ipetitions thread, it seems we are about 35-40 people who really give a crap about keeping Eve .... Eve . Too bad.
Zid Freeman 11	Posted - 2016.11.26 15:26:12 - [759] - Quote "Oh, stop your whining - I think replacing HAL's voice in 2001 SPACE ODYSSEY with a more happy upbeat attractive female voice would ADD to the movie"... Bring Aura's original voice back please
Guttripper State War Academy Caldari State 646	Posted - 2016.11.26 15:45:47 - [760] - Quote I would like the option of using the old Aura voice. After years and years (and years) of heavy metal and rock concerts, my higher range for hearing is damaged and at times faded. The older voice was deeper and I was able to hear it. The new voice is at a higher octane and parts of her speech are silent to me. Even when I turn my speakers up, it sounds like she is saying, "Whore Dry Act If". As others have mentioned, it is not something I need to have to play the game, but it is but a small part taken away.

Astrid Asanari BAND of MAGNUS THE R0NIN 1	Posted - 2016.11.26 16:23:18 - [761] - Quote i cant find anywhere how much skill points do i need for next level of skill ... just how much to lvl 5 i dont like that new character sheet
Matthias Ancaladron Hedion University Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2016.11.26 20:53:10 - [762] - Quote Good god that voice is awful. Had a chance to get on today and turned the voice volume up. Turned it right back down. I usually only keeo it around 50 but she sounded way better before.
Lemmi ChillMister Acid Tech. 303 10	Posted - 2016.11.26 23:03:04 - [763] - Quote I would like to have the previous Aura voice back, please... The new one sounds like a speedfreak with a helium addiction... #NovaWhen?
Chiara O'Nyx Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2016.11.26 23:07:22 - [764] - Quote "Warp drive active" :chirpychimpmunk" There was a thread of a guy who just did some light audio modification of new Aura and it sounded a lot better. So if you guys don't want to hassle with all new recording, can we at least get new Aura's voice modified to get more satisfactory results?
ModusOperandi Celestial Geologics Mineral Concern 0	Posted - 2016.11.27 00:01:36 - [765] - Quote I understand why Aura's voice was changed, but I MUST have the option of reverting to the old one. This needs to be an immediate priority.
Quazided Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2016.11.27 09:50:55 - [766] - Quote My paint skills wont win any awards You could add "Does not affect NPE Interactions" to the end Come on CCP you know you wonna: https://postimg.org/image/cx4nx9d13/
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 253	Posted - 2016.11.27 12:35:43 - [767] - Quote https://youtu.be/A1kPRgrHZ3Y The amount you can mine now with one account is insane. The Roqual in this video makes more ice then 3 fully boosted skiffs.(i calculated it). Including the possibility to compress the ice, he outruns my orca+freighter+3 skiff. 1 Account makes more ice then 5? That is illogical. Please reduce that or give the orca and the porpoise a buff in mining. Maybe a doubble bandwith, so they can use 2 ice drones. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)
Akira Kata AkiCo LLC 17	Posted - 2016.11.27 16:56:19 - [768] - Quote So far, my favorite Ascension feature is simulation mode in the fitting window- incredibly useful ability to have in-game. I truly appreciate how well this works. The Alpha Clone option is fantastic. I'm really enjoying the ability to have no-cost, low-risk minions I can train to do limited, specific tasks. The new ship destruction animations are beautiful to behold. Love watching the multitude of tiny explosions across a stricken vessel's hull culminate in a final blast. I'm somewhat mixed on the structure explosions. Though they are spectacular and beautifully intense, I often wish I had protective goggles irl like those worn by my avatar to shield my eyes. Though not an issue while gratuitously destroying non-essential bunkers, warehouses, lookouts, etc. after all enemies are dead (I leave no witnesses), the extreme brightness from blowing up missile and sentry turrets during a fight can make it difficult to see anything else on-screen, thus becoming a control issue. Like many fellow capsuleers, I miss the old ship AI voice. There was a serene, detached quality to her- even as she expressed subtle annoyance when I asked her to set a way-point to the same location twice... and providing wonderful irony by calmly announcing, "the capacitor is empty"- perhaps the most dreaded words EVE. Thanks for the cool subscriber rewards! I like the combined religious artifact/brass-knuckle aesthetic of the Sunesis. Very cool ship. One suggestion for future combat suits and other outfits: sleeveless options would be great for showing off tattoos and prosthetic arms. My overall opinion is that Ascension is a highly successful update. Kudos CCP!
Eski Minzin Veni Vidi Vici Inc 39	Posted - 2016.11.27 18:11:10 - [769] - Quote I find it to be downright offensive to have CCP ignore us for nearly 40 pages now. Honestly. You don't give your customers a platform to speak their minds and give feedback on your work, to then just ignore them completely if said feedback happens to not be to your liking. It doesn't work like that. Even if you won't be doing anything with the feedback you've received, you still (politely, Falcon) tell them so. So that they at least know that they're being heard. Don't forget that we are the ones that are keeping you in business, CCP. We are the ones allowing you to receive a paycheck at the end of the month.
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 39	Posted - 2016.11.27 19:57:33 - [770] - Quote In reply to those that may say that "the ones asking for the Classic Aura voice back are just 30-40 individuals", what follows is a list of the 206 so far unique people having stated in this thread that: they dislike or hate the new aura voice / they ask for an option to use classic aura / they have muted the aura voice since ascension / have cancelled their subscription due to the lack of classic aura / or any combination of the above. Please keep in perspective that this feedback thread has 768 posts as of this moment, posted by non unique accounts. This brings the number of complaints regarding this specific issue, to more than 1/3 of the expansion feedback. This post is meant to be an informative post, depicting the situation. The list of people complaining so far: 1. Sophia Mileghere 2. Davionia Vanshel 3. Keiko Ogawa 4. Mephiztopheleze 5. RankOutsider 6. Dominic Jacara 7. Klaw Athonille 8. Undefined Destiny 9. Dragon Mnementh 10. Tyrindel Vaedrelin 11. Greta Wolfcastle 12. Annexe 13. Ksand Defton 14. Simi van Dacus 15. Tolui Azaph 16. Oraac Ensor 17. Raw Matters 18. Do Nut 19. Andronicus Maximo 20. Sgt Ocker 21. Jesse Edwin Davis 22. ashahara 23. Stryider Tivianne 24. Gramps Pljugi 25. Diaz Kerensky 26. Adrager Amatin 27. Pubicbeard Jovakko 28. Testy McTestyFace2 29. Lmagno 30. Brynjard 31. Susitna 32. Quetz Alkoatl 33. Lothar Mandrake 34. Jarvis Nurella 35. Feodor Mihailovici 36. Sexy-Milf 37. Shayla Etherodyne 38. Julia Reave 39. DanTheManOnline 40. Drabbin Mishi 41. Mushwroom 42. Astrador 43. SportBilly 44. Malachir 45. d'hofren 46. Jeven HouseBenyo 47. Robot Robot 48. Rhah Nabunaid 49. Lucian Thetis 50. Maxim Gorkij 51. Rikali Laru 52. Caim Naberius 53. Kenrailae 54. Eski Minzin 55. Fault24x 56. MajkStone 57. Tom Schlong 58. Aelavaine 59. Venus Zewana 60. Voxinian 61. Quazided 62. Ami Sentokia 63. Donna Stride 64. Ridjobradi 65. Flashmala 66. Joia Crenca 67. Sire Sparrow 68. Kaze Mester 69. Pendra Tahyan 70. KIller Wabbit 71. Athenea Thiesant 72. Yolinde 73. Emiko P'eng 74. Fixy BrokeIT 75. Hildebrandt Koeppl 76. Paul Brinkhoff 77. Naga Zin 78. L0NEWARRIOR 79. Agfro Er 80. Andy Baer 81. Orlacc 82. Corporeal Universalis 83. Balabhadra Das 84. Kalen Blackstar 85. Joseph Nobel 86. Xodiac Primus 87. Borderjumper 88. phaNNNNToM 89. Mia Coldheart 90. Lugh Crow-Slave 91. Lana 'Monster-Hands' Kane 92. John Lawyer Jr 93. Lance B Johnson 94. Bemo 95. J'xander 96. Algarion Getz 97. Ion Blacknight 98. Vincent Moussou 99. Scarlett Audeles 100. Sien Salazar 101. Mi Shui 102. GeeBee 103. Admiral Zander 104. artemis Ambraella 105. Belthazor4011 106. GoHa RED 107. SeVenNight Deng 108. Ismael Caleb Echart 109. Cat Steele 110. Daemon Ceed 111. Victoria Cohen 112. Beam Moonrunner 113. Cisco Ayeoess 114. Dominous Nolen 115. Anna Tomy 116. Jime Sunji 117. Jegug Gyohoe 118. General Lynch 119. Jules Cognac 120. Artsnis 121. Le Loup Gris 122. Marlene Dakenek 123. Terrorfrodo 124. Swind 125. Edward Olmops 126. Nankeen Heron 127. Belinda Hawke 128. Sandor Kurovsky 129. Bob Hawke 130. Fer'isam K'ahn 131. Sarina Aideron 132. Rhyme Bittern 133. Erik Kalkoken 134. Shaana Mistique 135. Calaeus Fira 136. xRazoRx 137. Kailiani 138. Erasmus Ronuken 139. Eirene Jitacheck 140. Dazzlin Flame 141. Cad Aver 142. Benevolant Khan 143. DeadGuyVegas 144. Jhani Bralhast 145. Gyrr Sie 146. Caldranna 147. Regan Rotineque 148. conney Cadelanne 149. GetOUT The Way817CH 150. Dominik Crowley 151. Siigari Kitawa 152. Christoph Schmidt 153. Kreimhild 154. Doctor Bonn Young 155. Molica Iwaira 156. Myszokar Asterlan 157. sthymj 158. Esrevid Nekkeg 159. fuzz logick 160. Jenn aSide 161. Cookem 162. Zerberus Valheru 163. Lucy Lollipops 164. ChenLi 165. Cookie 166. Josef Djugashvilis 167. Edwin Zavut 168. Nix Axer 169. Wondertoon 170. Jaxon Grylls 171. forsak3n 172. Dajat Lemmont 173. Hindustani Troublemaker 174. John WarpingSlow 175. Countess Markievicz 176. Ni Neith 177. She11by 178. msTokkoTai 179. Elaine Eza 180. Drizden D'Urden 181. Mak Ka 182. LeFleur 183. Zeros Soliety 184. Mephiston Entreri 185. James Frechette 186. Leora Jomir 187. Blue Sonja 188. Xela Kcaneoh 189. Xtank Atratus 190. Zid Freeman 191. totalE 192. MarkaureI 193. Jonn Kramer 194. Ami Lentz 195. Jo Phor 196. NaKiti Entgalle 197. Clandestiny 198. Drauqhk Shathet 199. Harrock Shvir 200. Aischa Montagne 201. VLAD VIRONS 202. Guttripper 203. Matthias Ancaladron 204. Lemmi ChillMister 205. Chiara O'Nyx 206. ModusOperandi Dear CCP, We are waiting.

Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 58	Posted - 2016.11.28 01:11:16 - [771] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: https://youtu.be/A1kPRgrHZ3Y The amount you can mine now with one account is insane. The Roqual in this video makes more ice then 3 fully boosted skiffs.(i calculated it). Including the possibility to compress the ice, he outruns my orca+freighter+3 skiff. 1 Account makes more ice then 5? That is illogical. Please reduce that or give the orca and the porpoise a buff in mining. Maybe a double bandwith, so they can use 2 ice drones. Or doubble the mining bonus. CCPlease. Edit. I know that the Rorqual is a capital mining ship now. But it is also the best Fleetbooster. And with an ice block every 6.6 sec. compared to the orca with around 50 sec. for the same block the rorqual is about 7.5 times better. This gap is too big. Don't you think so? 47.5 million ISK in 20 mins. RIP Eve sub's. Player: CCP Wherdeya money go? CCP: We are holding in on ice..... Bwahahah!
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1953	Posted - 2016.11.28 09:26:45 - [772] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: https://youtu.be/A1kPRgrHZ3Y The amount you can mine now with one account is insane. The Roqual in this video makes more ice then 3 fully boosted skiffs.(i calculated it). Including the possibility to compress the ice, he outruns my orca+freighter+3 skiff. 1 Account makes more ice then 5? That is illogical. Please reduce that or give the orca and the porpoise a buff in mining. Maybe a double bandwith, so they can use 2 ice drones. Or doubble the mining bonus. CCPlease. Edit. I know that the Rorqual is a capital mining ship now. But it is also the best Fleetbooster. And with an ice block every 6.6 sec. compared to the orca with around 50 sec. for the same block the rorqual is about 7.5 times better. This gap is too big. Don't you think so? 47.5 million ISK in 20 mins. 1 Plex = Approx 10 Hours. RIP Eve sub's. Player: CCP Wherdeya money go? CCP: We are holding in on ice..... Bwahahah! carrier ratting in 0.0 makes you 50-60 million per 20 minutes super ratting in 0.0 - 80-100 million. (loot and faction drops are not included) It's not that 'RIP Eve subs' because of rorquals The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Conar My Wormhole Hurts 34	Posted - 2016.11.28 13:52:01 - [773] - Quote Simulation mode.... Love it! New Skill sheet... Love it! New voice.... Love it! CCP really hit it out of the park with this one. Huge thanks to everyone involved. 10+ years and not bitter yet.... conar 07
Ocean Ormand Bagel and Lox 42	Posted - 2016.11.28 14:36:31 - [774] - Quote The use and diversity of rigs for ec's strikes me as being unreasonable. Manufacturing is tied to market conditions which are in continual flux. If I want to build an ec, and rig it, it is awkward and prohibitively expensive to swap out the rigs for something new every time market conditions change. Moreover, the ec rigs are way too specialized. In any given corp you may have one guy building fuel blocks - another doing small ships and still another doing capital production. Was it really intended that they all were supposed to have their own personal ec's? Or was it intended that smaller corps are supposed to have to join larger alliances to gain access to larger facilities? The whole point of such changes as jump fat and fozzie sov was to break up control of the blue donut - and yet here the way the ec's are designed - it pushes people to become part of larger entities which in turn fosters the blue donut.
Celeste Aserad Carbon Edge Inc 10	Posted - 2016.11.28 20:05:12 - [775] - Quote TL;DR Civilian modules should be removed from the game After sitting in the Rookie Help chat for a week, I must say that one major confusing element to new players is related to the civilian modules. This relates both to guns (getting new guns but not loading ammo) and exploration (heading out to deep WH/Low/0.0 before finding that their civilian modules does nothing. After playing through the Inception NPE I couldn't seem to find information relaying that these modules are simply "dummy modules" specially for the tutorial. This makes the transition confusing. I would suggest removing civilian modules from the game entirely. Why can they not simply play with the real things right off the bat?
Joseph Nobel Heros of Adult Entertainment 8	Posted - 2016.11.29 07:43:14 - [776] - Quote Though on the list, be sure to add me on the list of people who have unsubscribed.
Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.11.29 17:30:34 - [777] - Quote So, this is what Eve Online has become now... This game was the best mmo ever made... in 2011 ! All the player left or are leaving. I guess this is time for new horizons... Let it go guys, Eve is lost as much as ccp ! A game is not made for editors to make money, a game is made for players... Did you forget ccp? I loved you ccp but now, i just wanna tell you this : ..i. Have fun for the bravest of you, I'm done ! 5 years of love story, but no regret at all ! I know you guys won't regret me, but that's fine when it works either ways ! HF guys !
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2016.11.29 22:46:38 - [778] - Quote Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme wrote: So, this is what Eve Online has become now... This game was the best mmo ever made... in 2011 ! All the player left or are leaving. I guess this is time for new horizons... Let it go guys, Eve is lost as much as ccp ! A game is not made for editors to make money, a game is made for players... Did you forget ccp? I loved you ccp but now, i just wanna tell you this : ..i. Have fun for the bravest of you, I'm done ! 5 years of love story, but no regret at all ! I know you guys won't regret me, but that's fine when it works either ways ! HF guys ! #QQ #Tranquility 32k Players. #Bye now nice to know you. Waves
Sylvia Kildare Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2016.11.30 01:58:56 - [779] - Quote Corporeal Universalis wrote: In reply to those that may say that "the ones asking for the Classic Aura voice back are just 30-40 individuals", what follows is a list of the 206 so far unique people having stated in this thread that: they dislike or hate the new aura voice / they ask for an option to use classic aura / they have muted the aura voice since ascension / have cancelled their subscription due to the lack of classic aura / or any combination of the above. Please keep in perspective that this feedback thread has 768 posts as of this moment, posted by non unique accounts. This brings the number of complaints regarding this specific issue, to more than 1/3 of the expansion feedback. This post is meant to be an informative post, depicting the situation. The list of people complaining so far: [snip] Dear CCP, We are waiting. Please add me to the list of people wanting Classic Aura back for regular gameplay. I posted my protest in the latest This Week in EVE: Sylvia Kildare wrote: Yep. Bring back the old Aura. New Aura is fine for the NPE, but for "warp drive actives" and docking voice confirmation and "you cannot jump" messages.... and ESPECIALLY for "skill training complete"... the old voice WAS EVE. Years of auditory comfort flushed down the toilet just so there'd be one new voice actor for the NPE + all the rest of us. Keep the new voice actor for Aura in the NPE, give us back the old Aura for everything else. Kthxplz.
Synderella Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.11.30 09:49:38 - [780] - Quote Your Alpha Clone system is more like a permanent free trial than being an actual Free to Play system because there is a hard paywall waiting for you once you train everything you are allowed to train (at 1/2 speed no less making it even more painful). Your marketing on this feels misleading. Alpha Clones will probably be much more popular with existing subscribers, especially pirate Corporations who just want toss-away alts without paying for new accounts, than new players who will still hit the same 90 degree skill curve as they always have once they leave your NPE. However, seeing as I would never bother with an Alpha Clone personally, it doesn't affect me all that much (unless I subbed again then it would because of my note about pirate/ganker corporations above). That's just some feedback on how I feel about that system, personally, and how I don't find it appealing and as a result I would never recommend it to anyone. On the note of you ever getting my business again, your removal of Aura really angers me. I muted the "new & improved" Aura within 10 minutes of firing up the game after the expansion. It is HORRIBLE. Aura was one of the best things about the experience. Aura was my companion through many hours of playing and mining. Aura was EVE. Hundreds of people complaining besides me and you just don't care. Not even enough to give people the option to use the Aura us veterans love. Well, I don't care if I give you my money. See how that works?

Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2016.11.30 11:02:46 - [781] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme wrote: So, this is what Eve Online has become now... This game was the best mmo ever made... in 2011 ! All the player left or are leaving. I guess this is time for new horizons... Let it go guys, Eve is lost as much as ccp ! A game is not made for editors to make money, a game is made for players... Did you forget ccp? I loved you ccp but now, i just wanna tell you this : ..i. Have fun for the bravest of you, I'm done ! 5 years of love story, but no regret at all ! I know you guys won't regret me, but that's fine when it works either ways ! HF guys ! #QQ #Tranquility 32k Players. #Bye now nice to know you. Waves #average was 60k 6 to 7 years ago #you can now create free alts for scaming or whatever (1 player can have an infinity of accounts connected at the same time) #"free-to-play" scam is working on kiddos #translating the game in french is working on french kiddos #players are leaving eve online is a fact, not an opinion #HF in eve online mate
Baldy McNoHair State War Academy Caldari State 21	Posted - 2016.11.30 11:06:13 - [782] - Quote Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme wrote: So, this is what Eve Online has become now... This game was the best mmo ever made... in 2011 ! All the player left or are leaving. I guess this is time for new horizons... Let it go guys, Eve is lost as much as ccp ! A game is not made for editors to make money, a game is made for players... Did you forget ccp? I loved you ccp but now, i just wanna tell you this : ..i. Have fun for the bravest of you, I'm done ! 5 years of love story, but no regret at all ! I know you guys won't regret me, but that's fine when it works either ways ! HF guys ! Can my main have your stuff? :) TBH, after Ascension, I see more people online than before it. This might stabilise after few months or so, but for now at least, I think that CCP did a good job at convincing me and my wifey to resub.
Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme Viziam Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2016.11.30 11:10:46 - [783] - Quote Baldy McNoHair wrote: Zi DoLphE Dutuitisme wrote: So, this is what Eve Online has become now... This game was the best mmo ever made... in 2011 ! All the player left or are leaving. I guess this is time for new horizons... Let it go guys, Eve is lost as much as ccp ! A game is not made for editors to make money, a game is made for players... Did you forget ccp? I loved you ccp but now, i just wanna tell you this : ..i. Have fun for the bravest of you, I'm done ! 5 years of love story, but no regret at all ! I know you guys won't regret me, but that's fine when it works either ways ! HF guys ! Can my main have your stuff? :) TBH, after Ascension, I see more people online than before it. This might stabilise after few months or so, but for now at least, I think that CCP did a good job at convincing me and my wifey to resub. Ascencion is rather new, i'm talking about real eve beggining, don't forget eve was created 13 years ago... Once again, you can now create an infinity of free alts and it's cheating the statistics ! The attracting aspect of eve was PvP, which lost all (physical) sence when devs made some ships able to warp faster than a server's tic ! I'm not a pro dev, but it's just physically impossible, it just doesn't work ! There was a time when you couldn't make 3 jumps in low sec without getting involved in a fight ! now you can make 40 jumps in 0.0 without crossing any ship, even friendly ! Your 30k players are just free alts in high sec, sorry to disappoint ;) Concerning my stuff, you'd have to make me jump out of the 0.0 i'm standing right now (my main is cloaked in a big ass ship with all my expensive stuff in da space... ) But if one day i decide to relog, you'll be the first one to know ;) HF for your resub mate
tapny ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:37:23 - [784] - Quote Hi, I find the new characters interface very nice , however the window skillqueue is really not practical, I play on a small screen, I only see 2 or 3 skill and it is very difficult to insert the desired skills to the good position. In addition I am lost in the skill groups, at least they should be arranged in alphabetical order.
Rei Y Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation 2	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:14:29 - [785] - Quote Amarr alphas are allowed defender missiles lvl 1 and missile launcher op lvl 1. the funny thing is defender missiles require missile launcher operation at lvl 2. how hard is it to check the dependencies?
Celeste Aserad Carbon Edge Inc 13	Posted - 2016.12.01 15:34:30 - [786] - Quote The only issue I have with the new Aura Voice is not the dialect or voice actor, but rather the feeling that the audio is of very low quality. It sounds like it was recorded with sub-par recording equipment, but I suspect it may be design choices during post process. For me Aura was a strong presence in the ship, but this also needs a high quality voice to match. As an example, Lord Maldoror commands great "presence" through his voice in this clip.
Zid Freeman 17	Posted - 2016.12.02 09:36:03 - [787] - Quote Corporeal Universalis wrote: In reply to those that may say that "the ones asking for the Classic Aura voice back are just 30-40 individuals", what follows is a list of the 206 so far unique people having stated in this thread that: they dislike or hate the new aura voice / they ask for an option to use classic aura / they have muted the aura voice since ascension / have cancelled their subscription due to the lack of classic aura / or any combination of the above. Please keep in perspective that this feedback thread has 768 posts as of this moment, posted by non unique accounts. This brings the number of complaints regarding this specific issue, to more than 1/3 of the expansion feedback. This post is meant to be an informative post, depicting the situation. The list of people complaining so far: 1. Sophia Mileghere 2. Davionia Vanshel 3. Keiko Ogawa 4. Mephiztopheleze 5. RankOutsider 6. Dominic Jacara 7. Klaw Athonille 8. Undefined Destiny 9. Dragon Mnementh 10. Tyrindel Vaedrelin 11. Greta Wolfcastle 12. Annexe 13. Ksand Defton 14. Simi van Dacus 15. Tolui Azaph 16. Oraac Ensor 17. Raw Matters 18. Do Nut 19. Andronicus Maximo 20. Sgt Ocker 21. Jesse Edwin Davis 22. ashahara 23. Stryider Tivianne 24. Gramps Pljugi 25. Diaz Kerensky 26. Adrager Amatin 27. Pubicbeard Jovakko 28. Testy McTestyFace2 29. Lmagno 30. Brynjard 31. Susitna 32. Quetz Alkoatl 33. Lothar Mandrake 34. Jarvis Nurella 35. Feodor Mihailovici 36. Sexy-Milf 37. Shayla Etherodyne 38. Julia Reave 39. DanTheManOnline 40. Drabbin Mishi 41. Mushwroom 42. Astrador 43. SportBilly 44. Malachir 45. d'hofren 46. Jeven HouseBenyo 47. Robot Robot 48. Rhah Nabunaid 49. Lucian Thetis 50. Maxim Gorkij 51. Rikali Laru 52. Caim Naberius 53. Kenrailae 54. Eski Minzin 55. Fault24x 56. MajkStone 57. Tom Schlong 58. Aelavaine 59. Venus Zewana 60. Voxinian 61. Quazided 62. Ami Sentokia 63. Donna Stride 64. Ridjobradi 65. Flashmala 66. Joia Crenca 67. Sire Sparrow 68. Kaze Mester 69. Pendra Tahyan 70. KIller Wabbit 71. Athenea Thiesant 72. Yolinde 73. Emiko P'eng 74. Fixy BrokeIT 75. Hildebrandt Koeppl 76. Paul Brinkhoff 77. Naga Zin 78. L0NEWARRIOR 79. Agfro Er 80. Andy Baer 81. Orlacc 82. Corporeal Universalis 83. Balabhadra Das 84. Kalen Blackstar 85. Joseph Nobel 86. Xodiac Primus 87. Borderjumper 88. phaNNNNToM 89. Mia Coldheart 90. Lugh Crow-Slave 91. Lana 'Monster-Hands' Kane 92. John Lawyer Jr 93. Lance B Johnson 94. Bemo 95. J'xander 96. Algarion Getz 97. Ion Blacknight 98. Vincent Moussou 99. Scarlett Audeles 100. Sien Salazar 101. Mi Shui 102. GeeBee 103. Admiral Zander 104. artemis Ambraella 105. Belthazor4011 106. GoHa RED 107. SeVenNight Deng 108. Ismael Caleb Echart 109. Cat Steele 110. Daemon Ceed 111. Victoria Cohen 112. Beam Moonrunner 113. Cisco Ayeoess 114. Dominous Nolen 115. Anna Tomy 116. Jime Sunji 117. Jegug Gyohoe 118. General Lynch 119. Jules Cognac 120. Artsnis 121. Le Loup Gris 122. Marlene Dakenek 123. Terrorfrodo 124. Swind 125. Edward Olmops 126. Nankeen Heron 127. Belinda Hawke 128. Sandor Kurovsky 129. Bob Hawke 130. Fer'isam K'ahn 131. Sarina Aideron 132. Rhyme Bittern 133. Erik Kalkoken 134. Shaana Mistique 135. Calaeus Fira 136. xRazoRx 137. Kailiani 138. Erasmus Ronuken 139. Eirene Jitacheck 140. Dazzlin Flame 141. Cad Aver 142. Benevolant Khan 143. DeadGuyVegas 144. Jhani Bralhast 145. Gyrr Sie 146. Caldranna 147. Regan Rotineque 148. conney Cadelanne 149. GetOUT The Way817CH 150. Dominik Crowley 151. Siigari Kitawa 152. Christoph Schmidt 153. Kreimhild 154. Doctor Bonn Young 155. Molica Iwaira 156. Myszokar Asterlan 157. sthymj 158. Esrevid Nekkeg 159. fuzz logick 160. Jenn aSide 161. Cookem 162. Zerberus Valheru 163. Lucy Lollipops 164. ChenLi 165. Cookie 166. Josef Djugashvilis 167. Edwin Zavut 168. Nix Axer 169. Wondertoon 170. Jaxon Grylls 171. forsak3n 172. Dajat Lemmont 173. Hindustani Troublemaker 174. John WarpingSlow 175. Countess Markievicz 176. Ni Neith 177. She11by 178. msTokkoTai 179. Elaine Eza 180. Drizden D'Urden 181. Mak Ka 182. LeFleur 183. Zeros Soliety 184. Mephiston Entreri 185. James Frechette 186. Leora Jomir 187. Blue Sonja 188. Xela Kcaneoh 189. Xtank Atratus 190. Zid Freeman 191. totalE 192. MarkaureI 193. Jonn Kramer 194. Ami Lentz 195. Jo Phor 196. NaKiti Entgalle 197. Clandestiny 198. Drauqhk Shathet 199. Harrock Shvir 200. Aischa Montagne 201. VLAD VIRONS 202. Guttripper 203. Matthias Ancaladron 204. Lemmi ChillMister 205. Chiara O'Nyx 206. ModusOperandi Dear CCP, We are waiting. support/bump Feature Request: User definable voice actor files https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=500415 Please bring Aura's original voice back CCP https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/aura/
Rhah Nabunaid Veni Vidi Vici Inc 14	Posted - 2016.12.02 10:22:48 - [788] - Quote Celeste Aserad wrote: The only issue I have with the new Aura Voice is not the dialect or voice actor, but rather the feeling that the audio is of very low quality. It sounds like it was recorded with sub-par recording equipment, but I suspect it may be design choices during post process. For me Aura was a strong presence in the ship, but this also needs a high quality voice to match. As an example, Lord Maldoror commands great "presence" through his voice in this clip. Exactly. To me; "Connecting" sounds more like a mumbled version of "Kevin"; "Warp Drive Active" sounds like "Orp Drive Active"; "Docking Permission Requested" and "Docking Request Accepted" are two completely different voices; It's just madness... How this could ever have been approved truly baffles me. Are you really that surprised that literally hundreds of players are requesting a return of the old voice, CCP? Judging by your 40 pages of silence I guess that a return of the old audio recordings, or at least an option to choose between the new and the old, is unfortunately out of the question. Though why do you also refuse to improve upon these current recordings? Isn't that the least you could do? Surely you too must hear that, in their current state, these are most definitely subpar. I'm a sound designer myself, and if you have only a half-decent audio engineer in your employment (which I'm having serious doubts about at this point, for obvious reasons) this will literally only be a half day's work. As much as I miss the old voice, I think the way the current recording of "Docking Request Accepted" sounds is pretty good. I could certainly live with that. The problem is just that literally none of the recordings sound alike. It's like we're suddenly flying around with 6 different AIs in our ship. That's why it makes absolutely no sense to me that these changes have been approved in the first place. Because making sure that your audio is consistent in its sound, especially when, according to the lore, they're coming from the same source, is probably rule #1. All this gives me the iimpression that you either f'd it up on purpose, or you simply just don't give a ****. But I'll just pretend to know better than that. Finally, I'm sure that by now you had hoped that we would've already given up on complaining, as your attitude of "Nobody likes change but they'll just have to accept it. They'll let it go soon enough." couldn't be more obvious, but I hope that it's clear by now that that won't be the case and that keeping silent isn't doing you any favors. Perhaps you're too busy working on other things right now and don't have time to worry about the audio - LET US KNOW Perhaps you're still working on the audio and had to release it in this state due to time constraints - LET US KNOW Perhaps you simply don't agree with us and think the current audio is better and will stay the way it is - LET US KNOW Keeping your customers - most of whom have been willing to give part of their hard-earned money to you for years - in the dark like this is seriously offensive.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1254	Posted - 2016.12.02 11:29:49 - [789] - Quote Rhah Nabunaid wrote: Celeste Aserad wrote: The only issue I have with the new Aura Voice is not the dialect or voice actor, but rather the feeling that the audio is of very low quality. It sounds like it was recorded with sub-par recording equipment, but I suspect it may be design choices during post process. For me Aura was a strong presence in the ship, but this also needs a high quality voice to match. As an example, Lord Maldoror commands great "presence" through his voice in this clip. Exactly. To me; "Connecting" sounds more like a mumbled version of "Kevin"; "Warp Drive Active" sounds like "Orp Drive Active"; "Docking Permission Requested" and "Docking Request Accepted" are two completely different voices; It's just madness... How this could ever have been approved truly baffles me. Are you really that surprised that literally hundreds of players are requesting a return of the old voice, CCP? Judging by your 40 pages of absolute and total silence I guess that a return of the old audio recordings, or at least an option to choose between the new and the old, is unfortunately out of the question. Though why do you also refuse to improve upon these current recordings? Isn't that the least you could do? Surely you too must hear that, in their current state, they are most definitely subpar. I'm a sound designer myself, and if you have only a half-decent audio engineer in your employment (which I'm having serious doubts about at this point, for obvious reasons) this will literally only be a half day's work. As much as I miss the old voice, I think the way the current recording of "Docking Request Accepted" sounds is pretty good. I could certainly live with that. The problem is just that literally none of the recordings sound alike. It's like we're suddenly flying around with 6 different AIs in our ship. That's why it makes absolutely no sense to me that these changes have been approved in the first place. Because making sure that your audio is consistent in its sound, especially when, according to the lore, they're coming from the same source, is probably rule #1. All this gives me the iimpression that you either f'd it up on purpose, or you simply just don't give a ****. But I'll just pretend to know better than that. Finally, I'm sure that by now you had hoped that we would've already given up on complaining, as your attitude of "Nobody likes change but they'll just have to accept it. They'll let it go soon enough." couldn't be more obvious, but I hope that it's clear by now that that won't be the case and that keeping silent isn't doing you any favors. Perhaps you're too busy working on other things right now and don't have time to worry about the audio - LET US KNOW Perhaps you're still working on the audio and had to release it in this state due to time constraints - LET US KNOW Perhaps you simply don't agree with us and think the current audio is better and will stay the way it is - LET US KNOW Keeping your customers - most of whom have been willing to give you part of their hard-earned money for years - in the dark like this is seriously offensive. CCP have given their answer regarding the new Aura via the community manager (If that is what you call someone so completely detached from the community he manages) - A nice simple "NOPE" was the only response to all you (and many others) just asked. CCP-Nope is the response to CCPlease. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 74	Posted - 2016.12.02 11:57:18 - [790] - Quote Aura's voice was the voice of Eve. It should have been obvious that it was an essential part of 'the brand,' something that should not be meddled with. The mistake is clear to everyone, and should now be clear to CCP. Making a mistake is one thing. Allowing a mistake to stand is another. When we correct our mistakes, we are held in higher esteem. War reports: Blacknight active

Soltys Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 166	Posted - 2016.12.02 12:48:57 - [791] - Quote Please move "simulate ship' to the bottom on transactions' RMB context menu. Currently it: - ruined over decade of muscle memory - what's worse: simulate ship shows up only for ships So please move it somewhere lower. It's not important functionality in context of character/corporation transaction history. Jita Flipping Inc.: Kovl & Kuvl
Circumstantial Evidence 367	Posted - 2016.12.02 19:06:07 - [792] - Quote Blood Raider Cerebral Accelerator: Last year these were converted to a new item, the "Expired..." and I think the current batch should also be converted into "Expired..." versions, but that would mess with existing market orders. So I think all current orders involving not-expired Accelerators would have to be cancelled first. What's the plan?
Eruhin Eldamar Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra 0	Posted - 2016.12.02 19:24:55 - [793] - Quote After several weeks adapting to the new changes, here are my issues and concerns with the new ship fitting interface. Some of the new features are pretty decent, but if I had to choose between the new interface and features, and losing all the new features but going back to the old interface, I would choose the old interface. 1. The window on the left side of the screen that shows ship fittings has the following concerns. a.The ship icons ad spam to the information. Is there a way to turn these off? The icons add no new, usable, information and I would be just fine returning to text only. b.How do you turn off the information regarding corporate fittings? There should be one additional filter layer since I will usually not care about how many corporate fittings there are. c.Sorting ships by hull type, with a drop-down menu for each is ok, but again, the icon wastes space and does not add new information. 2.The ship simulation features have the following concerns: a.It takes a REALLY long time to load any filter combination. Does this have to go back to the main server each time a new filter is selected? The filters themselves are good idea, but the load time is atrocious. i.This data is from the standard market data. What is the issue with cross-loading from the market data and applying filters locally? b.When selecting a module, you keep having a pop-up which shows module cost. i.This data is next to worthless since it does not necessarily reflect local/accessible markets, and because once I have a fit I like, I will look into costs. ii.Depending on the alignment, this pop-up can obscure data on the left side of the main ship-fitting screen, which requires scrolling the module screen to eliminate the conflict. iii.Please just eliminate the pop-ups, or provide an option to turn them off! 1.The only benefit I see with giving a pop-up with cost information is that it does give an order of magnitude indication for cost. If cost is kept, this data should be displayed in a spot other than the pop-up which does not obscure any other data at any time. c.The second button from the right (resources filter) takes a REALLY long time to load. d.When I click on GÇ£ModulesGÇ¥, the GÇ£ChargesGÇ¥ information often defaults as being displayed. Clearing this takes time, clicking around several buttons, or closing and re-opening the ship fitting window. i.This morning, I could not load any modules on my Dominix fit AFTER I had actually put myself in my Dominix. Even then, the Charges displayed as default for around 30 seconds. ii.The modules displayed after the resources filter button stopped loading. Since I had been messing with the fitting window for a few minutes already, the 30 seconds to display modules may have been a coincidence since it took a long time for the resources filter button to finish loading. e.The dps is now the combined dps of all items. You have to scroll over it and open the pop-up to see individual information for drones and turrets. i.This is another feature that wastes time. Instead of just glancing over and seeing the information, additional interactions with the mouse are now required, and the availability of the information is not intuitive. 3.I tried out a new fit and over-taxed my power grid. To represent this, the power grid remaining number was displayed as a negative number, turned red, and began slowly blinking. a.Displaying the number as negative and turning it red both make sense and give a quick representation of an issue. b.Slowly blinking the number wasted time with figuring out what the number actually was since I could not just glance at the number and gather the information. I had to stare at it for over one blink cycle before I was able to see the information that was actually there. So please, stop the blinking! 4.The icons without text are not the most intuitive. I had to hunt around to learn the basic features. Text on the icons would be VERY helpful so I do not have to hunt so much for features or memorize all the buttons. 5.How is GÇ£Alpha StrikeGÇ¥ calculated? On my Dominix, the number appears to be meaningless since I can only have 5 drones on the field at once. a.Personally, alpha strike info is not nearly as important as being able to see each type of dps (turrets, drones, etc) in one glance. b.For alpha strike to be relevant, what goes into the calculation should be displayed somewhere, which is a feature I have not yet identified. 6.When I want to overwrite the existing fitting, I have to save as, which gives me a new save (separate line), then I have to delete the existing (old) fitting. Why not give the option to overwrite existing? 7.When editing the cargo hold on my Stratios, T2, Exploration, fit, I ran into several issues: a.It takes multiple efforts clicking on almost all parts of the cargo hold icon to open the cargo hold interface. Not sure what is going on, but it should be a simple double-click and open. b.I have been trying to reduce core scanner probe count from 88 to 8, but no matter how many times I edit it, either the edits will not take, or additional items (m3) are added to the cargo hold. 8.When in simulation mode, why is the ship white and bright? This is hard on the eyes and induces eye strain (yes this produces a physical reaction feel it very quickly). This should be a more muted color.
Eruhin Eldamar Boa Innovations Brothers of Tangra 0	Posted - 2016.12.02 19:42:45 - [794] - Quote And now for my rant on the skill queue. This is the single biggest issue I have with the changes and where I believe the developers really missed. (BTW, if I actually used sound when playing, I would probably agree with those complaining about the changes to Aura's voice as being the biggest issue). Issues with EVE Online new skill interface I know many of you have worked very hard on the interface re-designs. Unfortunately, with the skill queue especially, I firmly believe you missed it, re-organizing and adding some functionality while omitting other functionality and introducing features that cause eye strain. My issues with the new skill interface are below. 1. In the top area, I am unable to sort skill areas alphabetically (or at least it does not appear to be available). a.This SIGNIFICANTLY increases time required to locate a skill area! b.I am personally not nearly as interested in how many skill points I have put into a specific area as I am interested in finding information FAST. This new setup prevents that since they are not sorted alphabetically anymore. c.Information is configured in a matrix format, where you have to look top to bottom and left to right. This significantly increases time to locate information. The old list format was fast and EASY. 2.Three boxes/viewing areas stacked on top of each other instead of the old two boxes side by side a.The top two boxes used to be the left box, could/should be re-combined since they are complimentary and were easy to read and understand when you had the expanding menus. b.I am unable to maneuver quickly through the middle or lower box; this hides LARGE numbers of skills, especially if you have a long queue! i.VERY hard to read and see what is there or what you have in the queue. c.The old side by side setup was very intuitive and EASY to scan through skills. This new interface is terrible when compared with the old one! d.If you want to see more of any box, you have to resize the box, which limits other boxes. This constant re-sizing adds amazing amounts of time. TERRBILE setup! e.If you want to drag a skill from the center box into somewhere in the bottom box that is not visible, it takes a REALLY long time to either scroll to that spot before dragging the skill, or drag the skill over and wait for the bottom box to slowly scroll. i.The old side-by-side setup made this fast and easy/intuitive. f.Bottom line, the three box/viewing area adds significant time to managing skills! 3.The new setup wastes a huge amount of space in the bottom box. a.Spacing between skills is close to twice as large as it needs to be. b.Spacing left to right is a huge waste of space. The old queue made the space available vertically, was easier and faster to read and use. 4.The new animations showing what skill is being trained are distracting. a.Draws the eyes immediately to them and makes the top skill harder to read. b.The blinking button at the bottom right is also extremely distracting. i.Why do we need a large blinking button showing how much time left in queue when the old small buttons worked just fine? ii.The old format had a small number showing skill queue duration, which again, worked very well. c.The old method of blinking the currently training box on the skill was plenty, and told what was going on very clearly. 5.The colors and shadings make the information VERY hard to read and find. a.This also introduces eye strain; yes I experienced several times, and the eye strain immediately went away when I closed the skill queue. b.The old queue was easy to read due to the consistent font sizings, simple colors, and no shadings. 6.The pop-ups are garbage (yes, garbage). a.They get in the way constantly and are very hard to use. i.This is especially true for the center box where you select individual skills. If you move the mouse over a skill on the left side then want to move to the right side, you must wait for the popup to disappear. b.Get rid of them or find a different way to display the information so it is a) not in the way and b) does not disappear if you want to use it but happen to move the mouse to the wrong place. 7.The new information available directly from the skill queue is kinda cool, but it could have been incorporated into the old setup without absolutely mangling the interface. 8.The icons showing which skill group a skill in training is associated with appears to me to be a waste of space. a.This is even worse because some of the icons are similar (gunnery, missiles especially), which increases eye strain to make them out. 9.The arrow by the search box which switches between text and icons for skill groups would be handy if I cared to actually memorize all the icons. Text is much more useful for me. a.This feature could be retained if you also had as a selection option to sort skill areas alphabetically (see above). 10.On the skill information displayed on ships/modules, etc, under the GÇ£RequirementsGÇ¥ and GÇ£MasteryGÇ¥ tabs, the new formatting is hard to read. a.The new blue period is hard to locate and does not provide as much information as the old interface. b.The old red xGÇÖs and yellow circles were very easy to read and intuitive. In summary, go back to the old skill queue, and add information to it. If it is not possible to add additional information to the old queue, then the old queue, unmodified, is just fine, and radically better than what you have provided us! Thus ends my rant, except to say if I continue experiencing eye strain due to this new feature, I may have to seriously consider leaving the game. The old skill queue format did not cause this, even with all the time I spent on it. End of rant.
Ocean Ormand Bagel and Lox 46	Posted - 2016.12.02 20:43:19 - [795] - Quote Just want to add that the new map is still crap. My God - all I want to see is a clean easy to read map of the system i'm in - with all the needless crap you, e.g. lines going here and there, little star dots every where, the thing is nigh unreadable. If Capt Kirk had to use this to navigate - he would have probably plowed the enterprise into a planet. Pretty shouldnt trump functionality. For a map to be useful it needs to be simple and readable. The new map is neither of these things.
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 52	Posted - 2016.12.03 04:06:12 - [796] - Quote Corporeal Universalis wrote: Plot twist: What if CCP is actually drowning and all this NPE and Alphas was one last try to get back to surface? If true, then they probably couldn't afford to pay 4 actors, or even the old actress for that matter. After all these weeks, I find myself strongly believing that CCP can no longer afford to pay for the copyrights of the original aura recordings. Of course, if a director had not had the copyright of his movie, he 'd be a fail director. They either had some really bad deal with the original actress and the contract doesn't cover them, or they had just the trial version of the voice and it expired. So we get the fallback, some random chick and some random filters. Thankfully we didn't get Microsoft Sam. Oh wait.. that one is copyrighted... This means the following: 1. Aura will not be coming back, they cannot afford it anymore. 2. The ship is sinking. 3. CCP will not give any feedback; they cannot admit their state, that would be nails in their coffin. On the contrary, they will continue acting as if nobody ever complained, ignoring the issue. My account might get banned for this post. This post may be deleted for exposing them. This post will not be deleted as this would prove it exposes them. This post might be edited, go on I have screencaps. This post will remain here to be seen by everyone, while no action will be taken, thereby silently confirming #3 and #2 G'day mates
Phuzzy Augmented Interstellar Flying Longhorns Warped Intentions 2	Posted - 2016.12.03 07:18:43 - [797] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Old Aura fans, please keep this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=500415&p=2 And this petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/make-auras-voice-greater-again Alive. FYI, the petition does NOT require a donation, just skip when asked. This was a good idea, I hope more people sign the petition.
Eski Minzin Veni Vidi Vici Inc 44	Posted - 2016.12.04 16:22:19 - [798] - Quote Corporeal Universalis wrote: After all these weeks, I find myself strongly believing that CCP can no longer afford to pay for the copyrights of the original aura recordings. They either had some really bad deal with the original actress and the contract doesn't cover them, or they had just the trial version of the voice and it expired. So we get the fallback, some random chick and some random filters. This means the following: 1. Aura will not be coming back, they cannot afford it anymore. If that would indeed be the case, then I wish that they would just admit it to us. That way we would at least be able to understand their situation, and it would make it easier for most of us to accept it. After all, this is a game that we have all come to love dearly, and I'm sure most of us don't want to see the CCP ship go under, at all. So if that would truly be the reason behind these recent changes, and they would come clean about it to their playerbase, I think that that would result in nothing less than a supportive reaction from us (financial and otherwise) . Whereas right now, it comes across as if nothing is the matter (which could, for all we know, just as well be the case), and that these were conscious decisions made by the CCP team because they thought that they would be genuine improvements. Which most of us happened to disagree with, resulting in an anti-supportive, or rather, rebellious, reaction from us. So, as I've said multiple times before, I think CCP needs to rethink their policy of communication towards their playerbase. Because keeping silent obviously isn't doing them any favors. For as long as we don't have any definitive answers, we will fill in the blanks ourselves. In my opinion, and I think this is axiomatic, if you want people to invest in your product, you have to provide them with transparacy.
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 1123	Posted - 2016.12.05 02:18:48 - [799] - Quote Something brought up in another thread. Farming Mini Skill Injectors. If my math is correct. Farming enough alts and being able to do the tutorial in 15mins flat would meant you would be able to farm 320K SP per hour. If mini skill injectors can be injected while the characters SP total is under 1.5mil but isnt capped or the injected skill points arent added to the 1.5mil total this means that to make a 5mil SP farmable toon would take roughly 16 hours. (63.75 mini skill injectors used) One account has three character slots. Creating three characters, logging in with each and doing the tutorial would net you the equivalent isk of running 2 null sec anoms at once per tick. Current mini injector prices are 50mil on contract. So it would net roughly 150mil/hr each hour per account. Then biomass takes 10 hours and you are ready to create and rinse and repeat. You would need roughly 11 accounts. One to start and each hour do another one. By the time you are complete all 11 the first is ready again. Either way.... NO! Have you heard anything I've said? You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right? That's right. Had to end sometime.
Andy Baer Panzer Recycling Station 15	Posted - 2016.12.08 13:07:36 - [800] - Quote I still have not gotten used to the Aura voice... If and only if we cannot have the old one back, could we re-record "kennekting", "dockingpermissinrequested" and "dockingpermissinaccepted" and "wup draiv +ñctiw"? Character sheet... still big pain ... If we cannot get the old one back, would it possible to reduce the amount of free space between lines in the skill queue?

Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.12.08 17:02:15 - [801] - Quote There are no issues...if you have some then it's only you.... And the old voice was creepy.please don't bring this crap back..
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 53	Posted - 2016.12.08 18:04:37 - [802] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: it's only you.... see #768
Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.12.08 19:25:10 - [803] - Quote Corporeal Universalis wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: it's only you.... see #768 200 compared to 20k online ist still "a few"..... But let me guess.... the other 19800 are just the "silent majority" that are surely and without any doubt your opinion and not against it but too lazy or too stupid to follow you..... You just have to "adjust" reality so that it fits your way...... And the old Aura was awful..... BTW...... Don't some people have REAL problems to complain about..... This is simply stupid.....
Don Pera Saissore 121	Posted - 2016.12.08 20:58:43 - [804] - Quote 20000 online doesnt mean 20000 players. if those 200 are real ppl, and not 5 dudes with alts, then that would be a big chunk of player base
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1256	Posted - 2016.12.09 06:41:13 - [805] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: Corporeal Universalis wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: it's only you.... see #768 200 compared to 20k online ist still "a few"..... But let me guess.... the other 19800 are just the "silent majority" that are surely and without any doubt your opinion and not against it but too lazy or too stupid to follow you..... You just have to "adjust" reality so that it fits your way...... BTW...... Don't some people have REAL problems to complain about..... This is simply stupid..... Actually your right, the silent majority don't use the forums. Instead they whine in comms, local chat and anywhere else they can (R/Eve is a good place) in the full knowledge Devs care little when their changes are met with dissatisfaction by players. (if you'd been playing eve for more than 10 minutes you'd know that) "And the old Aura was awful....." - Compared to what? Surely you can't even consider the new Aura "voices" to be better than the old. Old Aura was calming, clear, concise and easy on the ear - All the things the new Aura voices aren't. The only people I know who speak as fast as one of the new Aura voices are meth heads. "dockingpermission requested" is just one example of really poor diction - it is 3 words, not 2 and a half run together in a speed test. "ducking request aggcepted" just never should have made it past QC. I would be embarrassed to say it was my work. No offense meant, just a suggestion - The people who did the new Aura voice should really consider a new profession, sorry but your voices just aren't nice to listen to. Especially for hours at a time. I used to look forward to logging in for 4 or 5 hours a day and doing my thing - Now, after 20 or 30 minutes I'm rushing to get my thing done so I can log off and give my ears a rest (yesterday and today, 15 minutes was it, I just couldn't listen to the whiny screeches anymore).. Alpha state is looking more inviting, paying subs to be exposed to shite is just not worth it. I'll do it for free till the limitations of alpha bore me, by then I'll have found somewhere else to spend my money. Sadly, Eve without Aura (the original) just isn't Eve.. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Annexe I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team 118	Posted - 2016.12.09 09:58:53 - [806] - Quote Aura now also includes bad grammer.. "The Star-gate denies you permission to jump long pause AT the moment"... should be "FOR the moment". Annexe ITAI - VIP "i will pop your wreck with faction loot"
Feodor Mihailovici Mare Anguis 52	Posted - 2016.12.09 11:20:36 - [807] - Quote Zid Freeman wrote: Corporeal Universalis wrote: In reply to those that may say that "the ones asking for the Classic Aura voice back are just 30-40 individuals", what follows is a list of the 206 so far unique people having stated in this thread that: they dislike or hate the new aura voice / they ask for an option to use classic aura / they have muted the aura voice since ascension / have cancelled their subscription due to the lack of classic aura / or any combination of the above. Please keep in perspective that this feedback thread has 768 posts as of this moment, posted by non unique accounts. This brings the number of complaints regarding this specific issue, to more than 1/3 of the expansion feedback. This post is meant to be an informative post, depicting the situation. The list of people complaining so far: 1. Sophia Mileghere 2. Davionia Vanshel 3. Keiko Ogawa 4. Mephiztopheleze 5. RankOutsider 6. Dominic Jacara 7. Klaw Athonille 8. Undefined Destiny 9. Dragon Mnementh 10. Tyrindel Vaedrelin 11. Greta Wolfcastle 12. Annexe 13. Ksand Defton 14. Simi van Dacus 15. Tolui Azaph 16. Oraac Ensor 17. Raw Matters 18. Do Nut 19. Andronicus Maximo 20. Sgt Ocker 21. Jesse Edwin Davis 22. ashahara 23. Stryider Tivianne 24. Gramps Pljugi 25. Diaz Kerensky 26. Adrager Amatin 27. Pubicbeard Jovakko 28. Testy McTestyFace2 29. Lmagno 30. Brynjard 31. Susitna 32. Quetz Alkoatl 33. Lothar Mandrake 34. Jarvis Nurella 35. Feodor Mihailovici 36. Sexy-Milf 37. Shayla Etherodyne 38. Julia Reave 39. DanTheManOnline 40. Drabbin Mishi 41. Mushwroom 42. Astrador 43. SportBilly 44. Malachir 45. d'hofren 46. Jeven HouseBenyo 47. Robot Robot 48. Rhah Nabunaid 49. Lucian Thetis 50. Maxim Gorkij 51. Rikali Laru 52. Caim Naberius 53. Kenrailae 54. Eski Minzin 55. Fault24x 56. MajkStone 57. Tom Schlong 58. Aelavaine 59. Venus Zewana 60. Voxinian 61. Quazided 62. Ami Sentokia 63. Donna Stride 64. Ridjobradi 65. Flashmala 66. Joia Crenca 67. Sire Sparrow 68. Kaze Mester 69. Pendra Tahyan 70. KIller Wabbit 71. Athenea Thiesant 72. Yolinde 73. Emiko P'eng 74. Fixy BrokeIT 75. Hildebrandt Koeppl 76. Paul Brinkhoff 77. Naga Zin 78. L0NEWARRIOR 79. Agfro Er 80. Andy Baer 81. Orlacc 82. Corporeal Universalis 83. Balabhadra Das 84. Kalen Blackstar 85. Joseph Nobel 86. Xodiac Primus 87. Borderjumper 88. phaNNNNToM 89. Mia Coldheart 90. Lugh Crow-Slave 91. Lana 'Monster-Hands' Kane 92. John Lawyer Jr 93. Lance B Johnson 94. Bemo 95. J'xander 96. Algarion Getz 97. Ion Blacknight 98. Vincent Moussou 99. Scarlett Audeles 100. Sien Salazar 101. Mi Shui 102. GeeBee 103. Admiral Zander 104. artemis Ambraella 105. Belthazor4011 106. GoHa RED 107. SeVenNight Deng 108. Ismael Caleb Echart 109. Cat Steele 110. Daemon Ceed 111. Victoria Cohen 112. Beam Moonrunner 113. Cisco Ayeoess 114. Dominous Nolen 115. Anna Tomy 116. Jime Sunji 117. Jegug Gyohoe 118. General Lynch 119. Jules Cognac 120. Artsnis 121. Le Loup Gris 122. Marlene Dakenek 123. Terrorfrodo 124. Swind 125. Edward Olmops 126. Nankeen Heron 127. Belinda Hawke 128. Sandor Kurovsky 129. Bob Hawke 130. Fer'isam K'ahn 131. Sarina Aideron 132. Rhyme Bittern 133. Erik Kalkoken 134. Shaana Mistique 135. Calaeus Fira 136. xRazoRx 137. Kailiani 138. Erasmus Ronuken 139. Eirene Jitacheck 140. Dazzlin Flame 141. Cad Aver 142. Benevolant Khan 143. DeadGuyVegas 144. Jhani Bralhast 145. Gyrr Sie 146. Caldranna 147. Regan Rotineque 148. conney Cadelanne 149. GetOUT The Way817CH 150. Dominik Crowley 151. Siigari Kitawa 152. Christoph Schmidt 153. Kreimhild 154. Doctor Bonn Young 155. Molica Iwaira 156. Myszokar Asterlan 157. sthymj 158. Esrevid Nekkeg 159. fuzz logick 160. Jenn aSide 161. Cookem 162. Zerberus Valheru 163. Lucy Lollipops 164. ChenLi 165. Cookie 166. Josef Djugashvilis 167. Edwin Zavut 168. Nix Axer 169. Wondertoon 170. Jaxon Grylls 171. forsak3n 172. Dajat Lemmont 173. Hindustani Troublemaker 174. John WarpingSlow 175. Countess Markievicz 176. Ni Neith 177. She11by 178. msTokkoTai 179. Elaine Eza 180. Drizden D'Urden 181. Mak Ka 182. LeFleur 183. Zeros Soliety 184. Mephiston Entreri 185. James Frechette 186. Leora Jomir 187. Blue Sonja 188. Xela Kcaneoh 189. Xtank Atratus 190. Zid Freeman 191. totalE 192. MarkaureI 193. Jonn Kramer 194. Ami Lentz 195. Jo Phor 196. NaKiti Entgalle 197. Clandestiny 198. Drauqhk Shathet 199. Harrock Shvir 200. Aischa Montagne 201. VLAD VIRONS 202. Guttripper 203. Matthias Ancaladron 204. Lemmi ChillMister 205. Chiara O'Nyx 206. ModusOperandi Dear CCP, We are waiting. support/bump Dear Sir, this is one of the best ways to make a statement I have ever seen on the Eve forums. I commend you for it. Let's hope CCP listens (I still have that grain of hope). Bump for User definable voice files !
Mert Gunok The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.12.09 12:23:12 - [808] - Quote The new Aura voice is terrible. Please give an options to revert back to the old one or get rid of it all together. I appreciate the work that went into delivering it, but it completely misses the mark for me. Good day.
fhjldsf Andedare The Kaiser's Bismarck 0	Posted - 2016.12.09 20:26:33 - [809] - Quote Hi, I wanted to say that in my honest opinion there should be an update which will include new music in Eve Online. I feel that the playlist is a bit redundant as there are not so much music in the game. If it could be done it would be awesome.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 81	Posted - 2016.12.10 13:15:18 - [810] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: 200 compared to 20k online ist still "a few"..... But let me guess.... the other 19800 are just the "silent majority" that are surely and without any doubt your opinion and not against it but too lazy or too stupid to follow you..... You just have to "adjust" reality so that it fits your way...... And the old Aura was awful..... BTW...... Don't some people have REAL problems to complain about..... This is simply stupid..... It is an accepted truth in customer service that for every person that takes the time to make a complaint there are dozens more who think the same thing but don't take the time to complain. Take the ratio of negative to positive comments in this thread and extrapolate it to the entire player base. That is the way to look at the numbers. 'Cannectin...' War reports: Blacknight active

Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.12.10 15:24:05 - [811] - Quote 200 complaining is no problem.....its a joke..... So...1 % of all players find the new voice bad......so what......that means for 99% its ok..... All you do is to take the facts and form it so that it fits your opinion....there is no "silent majority" 99% of the people simply don't care..... The "problem" you're complaining about is none....its just gibbering of some people that live in the past and don't like the reality 2016......
Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.12.10 15:26:38 - [812] - Quote Don Pera Saissore wrote: 20000 online doesnt mean 20000 players. if those 200 are real ppl, and not 5 dudes with alts, then that would be a big chunk of player base In which world is 1% "a big chunk"? In the one i live it's the definition of minority.....
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1982	Posted - 2016.12.10 17:35:33 - [813] - Quote New Aura voice goes the way of new camera: disabled as much as possible. Such a nice addition! It's nice that we don't need to pay for such 'expansions'.... The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
John Lawyer Jr Silicon Dreams Smile 'n' Wave 11	Posted - 2016.12.10 19:01:32 - [814] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: 200 complaining is no problem.....its a joke..... So...1 % of all players find the new voice bad......so what......that means for 99% its ok..... All you do is to take the facts and form it so that it fits your opinion....there is no "silent majority" 99% of the people simply don't care..... The "problem" you're complaining about is none....its just gibbering of some people that live in the past and don't like the reality 2016...... EVE quality is slowly degrading over time and I agree that the most people are OK with it since these are "minor" changes we have (voice, ship brackets, tooltips, rgb sliders etc...). It is sad. It is happening because there is no alternative to EVE yet, so they are free to do all they want.. even things that would be disastrous for any other company on competing market. Single player, monopoly, ya know! One could be silent about it or speak out his opinion, but to excuse such obvious development fails with silly '2016 reality' or 'adapt or die' myths - THIS is what I do not understand! But good trolling never hurts :) Peace.
Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.12.10 20:14:43 - [815] - Quote You don't get it...right? Complaining about such things as a voice or a camera is childish and simply to ignore for "the 99%"..... You are a minority...get used to it.....the rest don't cares about your "problems" You really think ccp "can do what they want" because there are "no alternatives"? Really? All i hear is something like " this is MY game and i'm against EVERY change i'm not asked about" Because change is bad and its better to let the game die than change even the slightest bit.... All the complaining about the aura voice is coming from a minority source that belives THEY are the ones that ccp care about,something that these people may think,but this is far from the truth..... People you still have the opportunity to leave the game if you think you are victimized in any way.....
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1983	Posted - 2016.12.10 21:20:53 - [816] - Quote John Lawyer Jr wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: 200 complaining is no problem.....its a joke..... So...1 % of all players find the new voice bad......so what......that means for 99% its ok..... All you do is to take the facts and form it so that it fits your opinion....there is no "silent majority" 99% of the people simply don't care..... The "problem" you're complaining about is none....its just gibbering of some people that live in the past and don't like the reality 2016...... EVE quality is slowly degrading over time and I agree that the most people are OK with it since these are "minor" changes we have (voice, ship brackets, tooltips, rgb sliders etc...). It is sad. It is happening because there is no alternative to EVE yet, so they are free to do all they want.. even things that would be disastrous for any other company on competing market. Single player, monopoly, ya know! One could be silent about it or speak out his opinion, but to excuse such obvious development fails with silly '2016 reality' or 'adapt or die' myths - THIS is what I do not understand! But good trolling never hurts :) Peace. yeah.... Eve is unique game. We simply have no options.... Even if CCP reduce it to monochrome text console MMO most of us will still be there as long as the game keeps it's idea.... The sad part is that CCP knows it and never cares about quality The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1261	Posted - 2016.12.11 00:42:58 - [817] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: Don Pera Saissore wrote: 20000 online doesnt mean 20000 players. if those 200 are real ppl, and not 5 dudes with alts, then that would be a big chunk of player base In which world is 1% "a big chunk"? In the one i live it's the definition of minority..... You clearly have no idea on how forums work - If everyone who had a complaint about an aspect of the game posted to the forums- It would cause TIDI on the server node that contains the forums. Simple fact is, not many people use the Eve forums and those that do could be considered the voice of the majority. They do after all take the time to voice their opinions and often the opinions of their friends, corp and alliance mates. The alliance I fly with now has a channel on Discord called, Aura Sucks, this morning there were 100+ new posts to it, 50% more than all the other channels combined. Just over 1,000 players, 99% of whom never post on the forums are voicing their opinion. An opinion that will never be heard by CCP, not that they care, the decision regarding the new Aura was set in stone well before any feedback was given on it. "Complain all you want - It won't be changed" Look at SISI some time - The "test server" for all new additions to the game - Is lucky to have 200 online, simple fact that most players don't care about "testing" shite. CCP actually has to bribe players with "free" SP (that is only valid on the test server, until the next sync with TQ) to participate in "mass tests" NB; Test server feedback was used to impart dissatisfaction with the new Aura well before it went live - That feedback, just like here, was ignored by Devs. Reality is, there are some changes introduced to TQ that regardless of whether they are an improvement or worse than what was available, CCP will introduce simply because they can and players adapt or leave. It is cheaper to use the tea ladies as the voice of Aura than to pay professionals. (no offense meant tea ladies, I'm sure without the overdone effects added by some tone deaf Dev your voices aren't at all as horrible as they sound on TQ) CCP used to develop Eveonline for its players, now it is designed to make money = As cheaply as possible to maximize profit. After all, someone has to pay for CCP's (so far gigantic failures) side projects and the loyal player base of Eve is just the ticket for CCP to milk. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1261	Posted - 2016.12.11 00:52:27 - [818] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: You don't get it...right? Complaining about such things as a voice or a camera is childish and simply to ignore for "the 99%"..... You are a minority...get used to it.....the rest don't cares about your "problems" You really think ccp "can do what they want" because there are "no alternatives"? Really? All i hear is something like " this is MY game and i'm against EVERY change i'm not asked about" Because change is bad and its better to let the game die than change even the slightest bit.... All the complaining about the aura voice is coming from a minority source that belives THEY are the ones that ccp care about,something that these people may think,but this is far from the truth..... People you still have the opportunity to leave the game if you think you are victimized in any way..... I wonder which Dev created this account to troll the forums with? "Complaining about such things as a voice or a camera is childish" - New voice is just bad, people are allowed to complain about poor design in a game they pay to play. Trying to say complaints about the new subpar camera are childish - Your not even trying to be a good troll, just commenting on things you don't understand. The camera we have now is far less user friendly than what we had previously - Devs had said it will be brought up to a better standard ever since its release - It hasn't, it still has basic functionality missing... My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Lemmi ChillMister Acid Tech. 303 18	Posted - 2016.12.11 06:41:19 - [819] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: 200 complaining is no problem.....its a joke..... So...1 % of all players find the new voice bad......so what......that means for 99% its ok..... All you do is to take the facts and form it so that it fits your opinion....there is no "silent majority" 99% of the people simply don't care..... The "problem" you're complaining about is none....its just gibbering of some people that live in the past and don't like the reality 2016...... Dude... There are more people complaining about the new Aura voice, then people that give a 'thumbs up' for it... Unless you think you're the 99% of EvE-Online... #NovaWhen?
Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.12.11 10:31:22 - [820] - Quote Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: 200 complaining is no problem.....its a joke..... So...1 % of all players find the new voice bad......so what......that means for 99% its ok..... All you do is to take the facts and form it so that it fits your opinion....there is no "silent majority" 99% of the people simply don't care..... The "problem" you're complaining about is none....its just gibbering of some people that live in the past and don't like the reality 2016...... Dude... There are more people complaining about the new Aura voice then people that give a 'thumbs up' for it... Unless you think you're the 99% of EvE-Online...

Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 84	Posted - 2016.12.11 11:21:55 - [821] - Quote Sgt Ocker wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: You don't get it...right? Complaining about such things as a voice or a camera is childish and simply to ignore for "the 99%"..... You are a minority...get used to it.....the rest don't cares about your "problems" You really think ccp "can do what they want" because there are "no alternatives"? Really? All i hear is something like " this is MY game and i'm against EVERY change i'm not asked about" Because change is bad and its better to let the game die than change even the slightest bit.... All the complaining about the aura voice is coming from a minority source that belives THEY are the ones that ccp care about,something that these people may think,but this is far from the truth..... People you still have the opportunity to leave the game if you think you are victimized in any way..... I wonder which Dev created this account to troll the forums with? Haha, that was my thought also. To Ravas: read the following again.... It is an accepted truth in customer service that for every person that takes the time to make a complaint there are dozens more who think the same thing but don't take the time to complain. Take the ratio of negative to positive comments in this thread and extrapolate it to the entire player base. That is the way to look at the numbers. Peace. War reports: Blacknight active
Lemmi ChillMister Acid Tech. 303 23	Posted - 2016.12.11 12:07:40 - [822] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: Maybe in your world.....But your world is covered in pretty pink colours...... And YES complaining about a bullshit like "a voice" or "a camera" i don't like is indeed extremely childish behaviour..... Don't like that statement? Find it trolly? Well get used to it 'cause not everyone is living in your "pink piff puff pokemon world" To make it clear...maybe your're right...maybe there are not only 1% complaining about the "new voice" or crap like that...maybe it's about 5%....but nethertheless...THIS IS STILL A MINORITY....and those people still talk bullshit..... Beeing loud does not mean "you are right" in neither way..... Let me make a suggestion to all those that find the new voice is a "problem": Go to the real world (that is that thing outside your window) and find a REAL problem in the REAL world....THEN you can complain about something,but please leave the people who simply don't care about crap like a changed voice alone... Bottom Line.... I've looked up some posts you made on the forums, wich sheds a little light on your personality... You're quite full of yourself... and you seem to have problems with people that don't share your vision... And we're not speaking loud nor are we ranting as you, we speak calmly as most grown -ups do... And of course there's real-world stuff that matters more than a helium-addictive speedfreak voice, but this thread is for feedback on Ascension, not about real life... If you want to share your RL stuff, the OOPE thread is that way -----------------------------------> #ProjectNovaWhen? I like dots...
Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.12.11 12:37:06 - [823] - Quote Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: Maybe in your world.....But your world is covered in pretty pink colours...... And YES complaining about a bullshit like "a voice" or "a camera" i don't like is indeed extremely childish behaviour..... Don't like that statement? Find it trolly? Well get used to it 'cause not everyone is living in your "pink piff puff pokemon world" To make it clear...maybe your're right...maybe there are not only 1% complaining about the "new voice" or crap like that...maybe it's about 5%....but nethertheless...THIS IS STILL A MINORITY....and those people still talk bullshit..... Beeing loud does not mean "you are right" in neither way..... Let me make a suggestion to all those that find the new voice is a "problem": Go to the real world (that is that thing outside your window) and find a REAL problem in the REAL world....THEN you can complain about something,but please leave the people who simply don't care about crap like a changed voice alone... Bottom Line.... And of course there's real-world stuff that matters more than a helium-addictive speedfreak voice, but this thread is for feedback on Ascension, not about real life... Then use it as what it is intended to be...as a forum for REAL game crtics and not as a sheldon cooper style "Your hair(voice) is different i don't like your hair(voice),i can't stand your hair(voice)" statement...... This is good for sheldon,but not for "normal" people ..... :-)
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2016.12.11 12:42:56 - [824] - Quote Can you block people on the forum so you do not have to waste time reading useless unhelpful statements......
Lemmi ChillMister Acid Tech. 303 23	Posted - 2016.12.11 12:53:31 - [825] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: Maybe in your world.....But your world is covered in pretty pink colours...... And YES complaining about a bullshit like "a voice" or "a camera" i don't like is indeed extremely childish behaviour..... Don't like that statement? Find it trolly? Well get used to it 'cause not everyone is living in your "pink piff puff pokemon world" To make it clear...maybe your're right...maybe there are not only 1% complaining about the "new voice" or crap like that...maybe it's about 5%....but nethertheless...THIS IS STILL A MINORITY....and those people still talk bullshit..... Beeing loud does not mean "you are right" in neither way..... Let me make a suggestion to all those that find the new voice is a "problem": Go to the real world (that is that thing outside your window) and find a REAL problem in the REAL world....THEN you can complain about something,but please leave the people who simply don't care about crap like a changed voice alone... Bottom Line.... And of course there's real-world stuff that matters more than a helium-addictive speedfreak voice, but this thread is for feedback on Ascension, not about real life... Then use it as what it is intended to be...as a forum for REAL game crtics and not as a sheldon cooper style "Your hair(voice) is different i don't like your hair(voice),i can't stand your hair(voice)" statement...... This is good for sheldon,but not for "normal" people ..... :-) You don't seem to get it, do you... #ProjectNovaWhen? I like dots...
Ravas Geloris State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2016.12.11 13:01:46 - [826] - Quote Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: Maybe in your world.....But your world is covered in pretty pink colours...... And YES complaining about a bullshit like "a voice" or "a camera" i don't like is indeed extremely childish behaviour..... Don't like that statement? Find it trolly? Well get used to it 'cause not everyone is living in your "pink piff puff pokemon world" To make it clear...maybe your're right...maybe there are not only 1% complaining about the "new voice" or crap like that...maybe it's about 5%....but nethertheless...THIS IS STILL A MINORITY....and those people still talk bullshit..... Beeing loud does not mean "you are right" in neither way..... Let me make a suggestion to all those that find the new voice is a "problem": Go to the real world (that is that thing outside your window) and find a REAL problem in the REAL world....THEN you can complain about something,but please leave the people who simply don't care about crap like a changed voice alone... Bottom Line.... And of course there's real-world stuff that matters more than a helium-addictive speedfreak voice, but this thread is for feedback on Ascension, not about real life... Then use it as what it is intended to be...as a forum for REAL game crtics and not as a sheldon cooper style "Your hair(voice) is different i don't like your hair(voice),i can't stand your hair(voice)" statement...... This is good for sheldon,but not for "normal" people ..... :-) You don't seem to get it, do you... No... It's YOU,Sheldon,that lives in a special world where the loudest voice is always right.... Beside that you (and the few people that follow you) are simply wrong in your complaining....
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 54	Posted - 2016.12.11 22:22:58 - [827] - Quote Following up on my post about subscription cancelling many pages ago and due to the fact that even my submitted ticket about the issue remains unanswered, in addition to the absence of a proper official response, my clone state is now alpha and it will remain that way until the situation changes.
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 54	Posted - 2016.12.11 22:25:24 - [828] - Quote PS.: About Ravas Geloris, I am not sure if this newly created character is a dev alt or not, but regardless of that, as someone has already pointed out, his post history is highly indicative of the direction he tries to steer the conversation to. Remember, DNFTT, there are always going to be some. PPS.: No you cannot have my stuff
Maru Tanako Xcense 0	Posted - 2016.12.11 22:43:53 - [829] - Quote My few thoughts: - New fitting window - finally! Not a power user, I may find some issues in the future, but so far I love it. - New explosions - cool stuff - New structures - again cool stuff. Although I'm not gonna use them, it feels like a step in the right direction. If I was about to get one though, I'd say - waaaaaaay too many rigs - New character sheet - I'm a bit torn with this one. Old one was ok, didn't feel that change was needed. New one is more compact which is ok but some issues mentioned here make it harder to read and manage (mainly awkward non alphabetical verticaly horizontal order of skills). New character picture has poor quality and without WiS doesn't make any sense - I definitely prefered the old one. Overall new sheet is ok, I'll get used to it with no drama but some more love from devs wouldn't hurt. Now the bitter part - New aura is BAD. When I started playing EvE it was love at first sight, and it was love mainly because of Aura. It was her voice that sold me this game in a heartbeat and her death was an unexpected shock. If I could, I would trade all the new features for her proper voice without any hesitation. - Command bursts - Just for the backgroud, I've trained leadership skills purely for pve multiboxing. I can understand this maybe wasn't the idea how it was supposed to work and that change was needed. I really do, and I could get over it with ease. What I can't understand though is no skill reimbursement. It just feels like a middle finger straight at my face . Was it really so hard to do to give me (and maybe others) a choice?
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1269	Posted - 2016.12.12 08:02:23 - [830] - Quote Ravas Geloris wrote: Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: Lemmi ChillMister wrote: Ravas Geloris wrote: Maybe in your world.....But your world is covered in pretty pink colours...... And YES complaining about a bullshit like "a voice" or "a camera" i don't like is indeed extremely childish behaviour..... Don't like that statement? Find it trolly? Well get used to it 'cause not everyone is living in your "pink piff puff pokemon world" To make it clear...maybe your're right...maybe there are not only 1% complaining about the "new voice" or crap like that...maybe it's about 5%....but nethertheless...THIS IS STILL A MINORITY....and those people still talk bullshit..... Beeing loud does not mean "you are right" in neither way..... Let me make a suggestion to all those that find the new voice is a "problem": Go to the real world (that is that thing outside your window) and find a REAL problem in the REAL world....THEN you can complain about something,but please leave the people who simply don't care about crap like a changed voice alone... Bottom Line.... And of course there's real-world stuff that matters more than a helium-addictive speedfreak voice, but this thread is for feedback on Ascension, not about real life... Then use it as what it is intended to be...as a forum for REAL game crtics and not as a sheldon cooper style "Your hair(voice) is different i don't like your hair(voice),i can't stand your hair(voice)" statement...... This is good for sheldon,but not for "normal" people ..... :-) You don't seem to get it, do you... No... It's YOU,Sheldon,that lives in a special world where the loudest voice is always right.... Beside that you (and the few people that follow you) are simply wrong in your complaining.... Wow, can't even get the simplest comparisons right. Sheldon rarely if ever raises his voice to make a point. On that, you're the only one here ranting about how you dislike what others have to say, Sheldon indeed. You are the ultimate Sheldon - Yours is the only opinion that matters and you will keep telling others till they just give up - Just like in the show, Sheldon (you) tries to wear others down until they agree with his own vision of what is and isn't. New Aura is bad And this is the right place to voice that opinion...... PS; I don't see anywhere in this thread where you were personally invited, so if you really don't care about the most discussed topic, the bad Aura voice, do feel free to not read and comment about it. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.

Eclavaldra PCG Enterprises 5	Posted - 2016.12.13 13:58:00 - [831] - Quote People generally dislike change so I guess most of what's being grumbled about in this thread is to be expected and entirely reasonable. Personally I don't much like a lot of the new layout changes but that's probably just irritation at having to root around to find stuff that, before, I didn't have to think about. Aura, though, is another matter. I know it's a little thing and if it doesn't bug you in the least then that's cool but for me the only thing that could make that voice more $%^&ing irritating would be if it were saying "Unexpected item in bagging area." Please CCP can we at least have the option to revert to the old sound samples, even if that means we don't get any of the new stuff? Otherwise I suspect that for many people the voices will simply be switched off.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.12.13 21:59:07 - [832] - Quote I noticed today that the user interface sounds have changed, at least in part. I love the changes. While I am sure that the developers have more than enough to do, I would also like a bit more speech, perhaps even the possibility to add one's own sound samples and/or speech synthesis (yes, I am an old fart, and I know it is called text-to-speech these days). I don't know how others feel, but I feel that speech does a lot to add to the SciFi 'feel' of a computer programme. And ... I still like the new voice better than the old one. A lot better.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.12.13 22:08:23 - [833] - Quote Eclavaldra wrote: Otherwise I suspect that for many people the voices will simply be switched off. Perhaps. In my case, it remains turned on, and it sounds a lot clearer and is therefore significantly more useful than the old voice. I love it. Also, developers always have a hard time. As a veteran developer myself, I am well aware that 'many' people don't want a change and that 'many' people do want a change. Choices have to be made, because if they are not, and more customisation is introduced in an attempt to please everyone, 'many' people will complain that the programme is too complicated. Have some empathy for the developers. They are people, not gods who, by some miracle, are able to please all people, even when their wishes are in conflict.
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.12.13 22:31:25 - [834] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: KIller Wabbit wrote: Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: The character sheet says: Train skills at 2X speed. I don't think this is true. I see no speed difference. It's a lame, and I mean lame as hell, marketing gimmick. You're training the speed you have always have. Alpha's are training at half speed. Alpha's don't have the big boy pants needed to be told they have half the brain power of real players. Yes, it should say "Alpha clone 1/2 speed" "Omega Clone NORMAL speed" Because.... that's what it is. FYI. I am an Alpha. They could also say that Omega clones are training at twice the Alpha clone speed. Same meaning, same marketing, more precision. Everybody happy (almost?).
Yoshi Ikuzo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.12.13 22:42:29 - [835] - Quote Julia Reave wrote: Yoshi Ikuzo wrote: Edwin Zavut wrote: Or make possible to choose it. Choice is never a bad thing. Off-topic, but regarding choice always being good, this might be interesting: https://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice I agree that some, even many, people can't handle choice. With freedom of choice comes responsibility of choice.
Rain6637 NulzSec 34562	Posted - 2016.12.14 07:38:28 - [836] - Quote Heyyyy yo what's up I logged in for the first time since like, mid-October and I really like what's going on. I'm especially tickled by the little clicks and tick noises when you run the mouse cursor over clickable text like names and links. However, there seems to be a slight delay on the sound, and it feels like it coincides with the delay on the visual effects. The visuals, such as the flashes and tooltips seem to be alright-ish with the delay, and it gives them a bouncy feel. But as audio it feels like straight lag. If I'm not looking at the mouse, the sounds are pure responsive feedback and it's perfect. It's when I see the mouseover that I begin to wonder if my graphics are bogged down. I really like this treatment of the client, and I think the gameplay experience would realllly benefit from responsiveness and feedback. Compared to other games there is still a lot of room for adding these brain tickler things. Whoever is responsible for pushing these audio feedback click noises is my new favorite dev or devs. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 NulzSec 34562	Posted - 2016.12.14 07:44:03 - [837] - Quote Sooo the Aura voice is different, yeah, but I'm waiting to see if it was iterated to allow for more Aura audio clips. Aura has been the only speaking character in EVE for quite a while. Of course there will be attachment to that particular voice, and those audio feedback cues. It's changing the sound of Pavlov's bell. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 65	Posted - 2016.12.15 11:31:07 - [838] - Quote Players: "Dear CCP, we do not like the sound on the new Aura, please give us a legacy option for the old Aura." CCP: "Nope. Oh by the way, have some MOAR Aura!" Aura: "Yyoouyoyuyouoyuyuyyyoynnneyouyouyyouneed to be within range to execute that function." Players:
Algarion Getz Aideron Corp 257	Posted - 2016.12.16 16:18:30 - [839] - Quote Its really hard getting used to the new Aura. The old one blended in so nicely. The new one just gets annoying after a while. She sounds too human and generic. There are so many options on the Audio tab. Just add another one: "Use old Aura voice". Disabled by default, but players who prefer the old voice can enable it. Or just allow us to replace sound files, then we can do it ourselfes. CCPlease.
Rain6637 NulzSec 34574	Posted - 2016.12.16 22:08:06 - [840] - Quote Try to appreciate that the new Aura voice is the only Aura voice new players will know. Remember the first times you heard "Warp Drive Active" and the sense of wonder and not knowing what was at the end of your warp. No one told you what Aura used to sound like, or what she should sound like, or that there should be a sound at all. This is purely a case of disliking change. I expected a bell and instead there's a ding change it back Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Rain6637 NulzSec 34574	Posted - 2016.12.16 22:09:31 - [841] - Quote not to be confused with a five second Michael Bay cinematic every time you change ships or undock Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Sgt Ocker Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1275	Posted - 2016.12.17 02:50:28 - [842] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: This is purely a case of disliking change. Not at all. It is a case of not liking how the change was made and what was done to the core sound of Eve. The ONLY sounds I ever had switched on in Eve was Aura because the information passed to me by that voice was clear, concise and somehow soothing - Now I wish there was a way to turn it off but unfortunately due to it being such a fundamental part of my Eve experience I am forced to listen to bathroom recordings of people who should NEVER do voice acting (outside the privacy of their bathroom, where even the worst sound good, to themselves) We went from a nice soothing informative audio item. To a nerve grating, irritating, hard to understand noise trying to pass itself off as who knows what. Only explanation I can think of for the new Aura, CCP could not afford a professional so used the cheapest option available. Change for the sake of change is never good, more so when that change is so far below the standard of what was. My opinions are mine. If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Rain6637 NulzSec 34576	Posted - 2016.12.17 03:04:24 - [843] - Quote ok Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
botbox State Protectorate Caldari State 0	Posted - 2016.12.17 06:56:19 - [844] - Quote I unsubscribed. Although we see the CCP cares little about the opinions and actions of the players. I just can't eat this... aura's voice. You, or afflicted, or turn off the sound (the sound which runs through the whole game and creates its atmosphere). I fell in love with this game partly because of the music of the Apocrypha patch. But now I see no other solution but to leave.
Zed Havoc 10	Posted - 2016.12.17 07:41:34 - [845] - Quote The new Aura voice is terrible, I've muted the UI speech sound (slider to 0). Wich is pity,cuz i liked the sooting calm voice of previous Aura. I hope we get the old voice back or the abbility to choose the old voice. Hello,world!
Rain6637 NulzSec 34577	Posted - 2016.12.17 09:27:20 - [846] - Quote iirc the new aura is text-to-speech? Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Corporeal Universalis Accumulated Peasantry 58	Posted - 2016.12.17 11:46:41 - [847] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: I'm especially tickled by the little clicks and tick noises... ...realllly benefit from responsiveness and feedback Whoever is responsible for pushing these audio feedback click noises is my new favorite dev or devs. Hello there dear troll! Not much to do on a saturday morning? Do you like to praise your dev homies? You know, it will be really hard to create momentum on this subject with all those threads around booing your bad changes. Just a reminder: We will not forget that there were perfectly good sci-fi mouse feedback sounds before the obnoxious clicks, just because you try to make them look not that bad again. Oh and by the way, you are off topic. This is not an ascension change, but a 118.10 change :) Cheers
Rain6637 NulzSec 34578	Posted - 2016.12.17 21:17:24 - [848] - Quote You'll have to forgive me, I've been away from EVE since October, for school. And I don't forum good. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 NulzSec 34578	Posted - 2016.12.17 21:30:43 - [849] - Quote I CAN BARELY READ Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Dominous Nolen Powder and Ball Alchemist Industries 242	Posted - 2016.12.17 21:53:41 - [850] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: iirc the new aura is text-to-speech? Nope voice acted, I forget the actors name, but she's mentioned in the vegas update by CCP Ghost @dominousnolen

Rhah Nabunaid Veni Vidi Vici Inc 22	Posted - 2016.12.18 19:06:21 - [851] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: iirc the new aura is text-to-speech? The fact that for all this time you thought this was the case says more than enough, in my opinion.
Rain6637 NulzSec 34578	Posted - 2016.12.18 19:43:03 - [852] - Quote bruh your neckbeard needs trimming Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Kamicasy ARMADA PORTUGUESA Aureus Alae 4	Posted - 2016.12.21 15:57:33 - [853] - Quote hi why retrict alpha clones to race ships and modules? Why not restrit only the skills levels and the meta levels of modules. I can use t2 on alpha clone and that not supose to happend. We should be able to change skills as we do with the attribute points. New pilots should be able to experience ships and modules from other races without having to create a new char from another race to do so.Limiting access to modules taking into account the meta levels would be fairer.
Forrest Martinez EVE University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2016.12.25 16:02:48 - [854] - Quote One of the things I notice with new players is a lack of understanding about target selection. I see a lot of new players accidentally shoot structures and not understand why they are not hitting the ship. Maybe add a portion to the tutorial that highlights target selection and where you can do this.
Jesse Edwin Davis Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2016.12.28 12:26:44 - [855] - Quote Kamicasy wrote: why retrict alpha clones to race ships and modules? To force 'em to pay, obviously. Free-to-play is not about to let people play for free, it's about to make their gameplay uncomfortable and annoying enough to make 'em pay. It's almost every second post in this topic about how new Aura voice is bad an how new character list and skill queue are messy. Devs ask for feedback - and they get it. It would be nice to see some feedback for this feedback from time to time.
Balabhadra Das Viziam Amarr Empire 71	Posted - 2016.12.29 06:45:05 - [856] - Quote Jesse Edwin Davis wrote: Kamicasy wrote: why retrict alpha clones to race ships and modules? To force 'em to pay, obviously. Free-to-play is not about to let people play for free, it's about to make their gameplay uncomfortable and annoying enough to make 'em pay. It's almost every second post in this topic about how new Aura voice is bad an how new character list and skill queue are messy. Devs ask for feedback - and they get it. It would be nice to see some feedback for this feedback from time to time. They gave us feedback. CCP Falcon said "Nope" and then they added in more Aura sounds with the voice that has been complained about.
Badlum Askold Wesley Snipes Tax Service 0	Posted - 2017.01.03 23:09:58 - [857] - Quote The new voice for Aura is really, really bad. If you're ostensibly sticking with matching the tutorial, just rename your onboard AI post-tutorial to something else, then you wouldn't have to keep the same voice (i.e. you could give us back the good, old voice).
Angry Arnst W.O.R.M-S.W.A.R.M SPEC OP Privateers 11	Posted - 2017.01.05 00:56:38 - [858] - Quote I know Minor but I would like see jump clone fee's changed I don't really think should be charged to jump another clone and pay fee for one be installed when you have one there already. mean if not even jumped into clone had installed station it should be there why charge again and again if never jump into said clone. If jumping from clone from different station not even part of station ya in
Atskiy Terrorist Caldari Provisions Caldari State 13	Posted - 2017.01.06 16:59:46 - [859] - Quote Bring back old AURA voice! Old voice was well 'robotized' and had its own charm. New one sounds EMPTILY, SPIRITLESSLY, LOW-BUDGETARY You entered wrong command, your hands will be amputated.
Jesse Edwin Davis Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2017.01.07 08:09:59 - [860] - Quote Balabhadra Das wrote: Jesse Edwin Davis wrote: Kamicasy wrote: why retrict alpha clones to race ships and modules? To force 'em to pay, obviously. Free-to-play is not about to let people play for free, it's about to make their gameplay uncomfortable and annoying enough to make 'em pay. It's almost every second post in this topic about how new Aura voice is bad an how new character list and skill queue are messy. Devs ask for feedback - and they get it. It would be nice to see some feedback for this feedback from time to time. They gave us feedback. CCP Falcon said "Nope" and then they added in more Aura sounds with the voice that has been complained about. When devs keep saying "Nope" to community long enough, they end up like Star Wars Galaxies. Hopefully CCP made enough money from EvE to say "OK, we've done here!" and move on to make some MOBA, session-based TPS, or some other popular crap.

Opertone Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 337	Posted - 2017.01.07 22:01:56 - [861] - Quote AURA voice back please... that new girl is NORA - let her be with tutorials (Not ORiginal [Replacement] Aura) for space game keep AURA new character skill chart - what a mess ... sorted alphabetically and in columns??? you are what!??? no columns please ... straight lists top to bottom This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc. WARP DRIVE makes eve boring really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Rain6637 NulzSec 34736	Posted - 2017.01.07 22:04:09 - [862] - Quote i vote we name her Nora Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Opertone Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 337	Posted - 2017.01.07 22:31:40 - [863] - Quote CCP is smart and intense, Everybody wants AURA back nobody is seriously bashing devs with free to play complaints, no usual whining over any minor mistakes, no threats to unsub... suddenly they all want EVE to live ... and be like it was good before... NOW CCP DOES KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT sweet TEARS And to bring back AURA is so much easier... This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc. WARP DRIVE makes eve boring really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
squiddie Sleeper Technology Industries 0	Posted - 2017.01.31 19:23:40 - [864] - Quote CCP just completely misunderstood the concept and the importance of constants. AURA was a constant. Bad things happen if you change constants. Really bad things like volume sliders magically moving to the left most position. RIP AURA. You'll be missed.
Mi Shui Archangels Inc. End of Natural Lifetime 7	Posted - 2017.02.14 01:57:27 - [865] - Quote Days passed, but AURA will never ever be the past! Bring her back!
Cinehili Aori Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2017.02.15 20:31:25 - [866] - Quote Please, just give us an option to change back to the old Aura. We got the same option for the Old Music. I'm begging you CCP.
Laephis Brinn Ars ex Discordia 0	Posted - 2017.02.18 03:14:46 - [867] - Quote Been playing EVE for over 10 years. Came back to the game after a break to discover Aura was gone. Really disappointed and would prefer to have the old voice back. :(
Zid Freeman 21	Posted - 2017.03.26 21:45:48 - [868] - Quote Seriously CCP - I can't invite, recommend or ask my friends to join me to play a game where you have to listen to Mila Kunis or Fran the Nanny and get images of outdated TV series in your head when you're trying to live in a dark dystopian future... Sorry, but thats just how it is - I will NOT invite or recommend EVE to friends, adult or no to this game until you at least give us an OPTION. O.P.T.I.O.N. Yea, I'm STILL pissed off - and will be so until I get the OPTION ! Feature Request: User definable voice actor files https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=500415 Please bring Aura's original voice back CCP - or failing that: an OPTION https://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/au
Ryoko Masaki Hakubi University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2017.04.18 23:33:07 - [869] - Quote Has anyone noticed that Gallente alpha characters can never fly the Tristan, Maulus, and Maulus Navy Issue frigates at level II mastery, but they can all the other frigates? The problem is there are a couple of skills between them that are required to be a certain level and alpha characters are capped off one level lower. For instance, for level 2 mastery the Maulus requires Sensor Linking 2 but alphas are capped at level 1. The Maulus Navy Issue and the Tristan do not need sensor skills, but do require Electronic Warfare 4 and alphas are capped at level 3. All the other frigs appear to be okay to fly at mastery 2. (I originally entered this as a support ticket and was advised to bring it here - rmh)
Uthgaard Reputable Gentlemen 14	Posted - 2017.05.07 08:16:18 - [870] - Quote I'm glad it's free to play, so I didn't have to drop a subscription fee to learn the game had gone to ****. Wound up here while looking for a way to get the old Aura voice back (which I've learned you can't). Found a lot of other people who also feel that the new UI looks like it was designed by Microsoft (that's a bad thing). You could have died a hero, but you lived long enough to see yourselves become the villain. How much lower does the player count have to go before they realize? Welcome f2p, the nursing home for old games whose devs stopped listening to their players.



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