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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9111
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Posted - 2017.02.13 19:01:23 -
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Pilots;
With the rapid escalation of events, rather than allow this to be scattered among a dozen threads, let's try to keep a concentrated collection of data and references for public review. I will be updating this post as frequently as possible, and all possible information on potential exposed populations, points of uncertainty, etc, will be noted in follow-on posts in this thread. Links to secondary threads will be included where helpful.
I strongly advise for further cooperation, and look forward to liaising with Gallente and Matari organizations should that become necessary.
Quarantine zones
- Muttokon II, orbital platform, Minmatari Republic, 900,000 potential exposed
- Oijanen II, Myrskaa, Caldari State, 36,000,000 potential exposed
- Efu V, Genolution station, Amarr Empire, unknown population exposed
- Postouvin IV, Astral Mining platform, Gallente Federation, 8,000,000 potential exposed
News
Coordinating groups
- Muttokon response: unknown.
- Oijanen response: Oijanen Response Group, involving Heiian Conglomerate, Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive, Arataka Research Consortium
- Efu reponse: Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
- Postouvin response: unknown
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9111
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Posted - 2017.02.13 19:03:59 -
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(post reserved for additional updates)
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9111
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Posted - 2017.02.13 19:04:49 -
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(post reserved for updates, but let's hope it doesn't get that far.)
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Sinjin Mokk
Horde Vanguard. Pandemic Horde
1150
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Posted - 2017.02.13 19:23:41 -
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Thank you Ms. Priano.
I would again caution people to avoid speculation, remain vigilant and stay safe.
"Angels live, they never die,
Apart from us, behind the sky.
They're fading souls who've turned to ice,
So ashen white in paradise."
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
935
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Posted - 2017.02.13 19:36:49 -
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If the authorities wish to avoid speculation they would do well to be a little less tight-lipped about what is going on. At this point their silence is inducing panic rather than sequestering it. This is not the behavior of people who are trying to keep public order; it's the behavior of someone trying to manifest the feeling of dreadful suspense in a holoreel audience.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1185
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Posted - 2017.02.13 19:46:37 -
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I have medical and emergency security personnel, as well as facilities, capable of handling hundreds of thousands if not millions of freed slaves when need be. They can swiftly be repurposed into crisis teams for this particular purpose if necessary. If you require third party testimony to their efficacy, contact Samira Kernher, or SFRIM leadership who have both seen them in action.
Do allow for a few hours or more if we need to deploy Citadels for these efforts as there's obvious security issues organizing proper defenses.
I would also request neutral oversight of these efforts, as it'd appear nominally hostile entities will be operating around these places. SFRIM deploying into the lands of my kin is a matter of concern if such oversight is not in place and may even be considered hostile without it. |
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
937
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:04:32 -
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SFRIM has been prepared to procure or help procure consumables for those on board the orbital and a Citadel for staging purposes. For logistical reasons it was our intent that these be administered by another party. Beyond trust, which we have in bountiful amounts thanks to the nature of this effort, our other great concern is that this other party or parties take on the movement of what will amount to at least several freighter holds' volume of cargo. This is even more important now that there is the Efu incident to attend to as well.
Regardless of who ends up doing the "on the ground" component in Muttokon I hope nobody will be threatened by cargo vessels filled with food and medicine.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1185
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:07:48 -
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Capsuleer staging areas can contain so much more than just food and medicine, and SFRIM pilots are on record taking hostile military action against Tribal interests and people, even on our side of the border. If transparency and neutral oversight is for some reason unacceptable, that would make it far from unreasonable to suspect less... charitable intentions.
Imperial 'Cargo Vessels' are routinely found carrying human 'cargo' when they're discovered in our space. |
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
937
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:19:52 -
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If you have a neutral organization that would make you personally happy we are more than willing to consider it but for our part we have to be sure of the organization or person's ability to handle the logistics and, of course, there will have to be a trust component because the costs of what they will be entrusted with are, at minimum, in the billions.
I know of not a single time when SFRIM has made a pledge of humanitarian aid or international cooperation where it later acted in a duplicitous manner.
We cannot come at this like enemies. It will never work.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1185
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:26:50 -
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Hard not to knowing that SFRIM are on record performing combat operations against my people even within our borders, and loyalists to the one nation that are actively and perpetually enslaving my people. I'm sure you can see why setting up a capsuleer staging citadel in our systems is thus a matter of concern without neutral oversight. |
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1805
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:41:15 -
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The speed at which this pathogen seems to spread from person to person would suggest an entire station or city would be infected within days, and that only the prompt quarantine responses thus far shown have been preventing the natural spread of the disease. And yet, it is still spreading.
The spread of this agent is not following a logical pattern. Cases are appearing in distant and unrelated locations suggesting it is not being carried there by infected individuals going about their regular travels. The alternative is that it is being spread purposely at random to maximize the chance of the agent escaping a quarantine. If this is the case, the culprits must be found.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Victoria Grey
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:57:22 -
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I am on stand-bye for support in mainly Muttokon (but can help in Efu and Postouvin as there is likely a significant Matari presence there whether slaves or federation citizens). I can help bring supplies or fill any role Necessary.
Mizhara, I will coordinate with you if need arises for further action. Else I will likely patrol the system and surrounding systems for information and sometimes bring supplies or relief aid when I can. |
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
939
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Posted - 2017.02.13 20:58:30 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Hard not to knowing that SFRIM are on record performing combat operations against my people even within our borders, and loyalists to the one nation that are actively and perpetually enslaving my people. I'm sure you can see why setting up a capsuleer staging citadel in our systems is thus a matter of concern without neutral oversight.
There is noting in SFRIM's history to even remotely suggest that our humanitarian efforts ever have been or ever will be anything other than what we promise. Seeing as you worried about underhandedness despite the facts and my assurances I ask again if there is an organization in particular that you think could play the role of neutral. I am happy to consider and lobby the board to approve anybody that can handle the operation.
In addition, if we were confident that another similarly supplied effort could be undertaken by you or some other Republic-aligned group, we would have no reservations about focusing on the Efu response exclusively.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9116
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:06:20 -
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I've made a small update, as it seems there is some dispute on who should administer or oversee the Muttokon quarantine.
Needless to say, while Ms. Del'thul is currently on deployment elsewhere, she's made repeated indications of attacking any operation by SFRIM in Matari space. While I'd hoped that humanitarian aid would be accepted without the usual rancor, that appears not to be the case.
As the situation evolves, and the discussion develops between Lord Tash-Murkon and Ms. Del'thul, I'll update the list.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
47
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:06:23 -
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As perhaps a "representative" I do have two Sigils and Bestower which can quickly be converted to personnel transports.
It is not much but I am wiling to assist should I be asked to do so.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1185
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:13:31 -
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Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Hard not to knowing that SFRIM are on record performing combat operations against my people even within our borders, and loyalists to the one nation that are actively and perpetually enslaving my people. I'm sure you can see why setting up a capsuleer staging citadel in our systems is thus a matter of concern without neutral oversight. There is noting in SFRIM's history to even remotely suggest that our humanitarian efforts ever have been or ever will be anything other than what we promise. Seeing as you worried about underhandedness despite the facts and my assurances I ask again if there is an organization in particular that you think could play the role of neutral. I am happy to consider and lobby the board to approve anybody that can handle the operation. In addition, if we were confident that another similarly supplied effort could be undertaken by you or some other Republic-aligned group, we would have no reservations about focusing on the Efu response exclusively.
I actually have personal experience with... 'human cargo' being handed over to unknown parties by SFRIM and it took some serious efforts including aid from third parties to rectify the situation. So there is quite a bit in SFRIM's history to make it worrisome having SFRIM handling Muttokon unmonitored.
I believe through a third party this particular issue has been resolved and I'll have a facility in place soon, along with personnel and assets all used for similar emergency situations. Muttokon II is being handled. |
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
939
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:25:44 -
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I have to say though that it does not bode well for the future that billions in aid, freely and in good faith offered to innocents, would have been fired upon by someone just because the people that paid for it were the wrong sort.
For the sake of the nearly million lives in the balance I hope you are successful in securing the material to aid them. I cannot approve the shipment under direct threats of violence so the only thing you cannot stop me from offering are my prayers.
SFRIM is liberated to shift its primary focus to Efu. Other efforts underway that anticipate the need for additional pilots or material are encouraged to contact me. As the situation continues to develop we are very keen on cooperation to limit the human cost.
"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
47
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:48:44 -
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And so we united in word, but not in deeds?
I certainly understand the inherent mistrust of people, but how can we, the people of New Eden respond to what is evidently a large scale attack on many our populations. Each Empire was attacked. True it seems random and small. But now we know it is deliberate and a pattern.
I can understand the need for patriotism during certain times.
Let's do something unprecedented in New Eden and actually work together to resolving the epidemic.
Nationalism has no place here.
I will gladly jump into Matari space, despite being viewed as a suspect, or worse criminal for being perceived as Slaver.
I'll subject myself to search or even allow Republic Peacekeepers to inspect my ships to alleviate any concerns
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1796
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:49:42 -
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I'm afraid to ask but what would this neutral third party be expected to do? Just monitor shipments going in and keep tabs on Amarrian warships being staged, if any? I'm on Mizhara's side for this, since I can only imagine that people going through what they are going through would probably not want those who once enslaved us offering a hand without our own around. Atleast I know I wouldn't. It has nothing to do with past actions, just common sense. |
Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1185
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:58:02 -
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It's not the aid that is objectionable. It's the documented history of aggression towards my people and the lesser known history of handing off my people to unknown parties during 'humanitarian aid' efforts. Which I also have documentation on. If letting you make cheap jabs about 'good faith' is the price to pay for ensuring the safety of my people, so be it. My reputation is understandably in tatters anyway so it makes little difference.
A rescue center and staging area for friendly capsuleer efforts will be in place shortly. |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1963
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:08:14 -
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I may or may not keep an eye on the situation in Postouvin or anything similar in the territory of Solitude.
Akrasjel Lanate
Founder and CEO of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
48
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:18:20 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:I'm afraid to ask but what would this neutral third party be expected to do? Just monitor shipments going in and keep tabs on Amarrian warships being staged, if any? I'm on Mizhara's side for this, since I can only imagine that people going through what they are going through would probably not want those who once enslaved us offering a hand without our own around. Atleast I know I wouldn't. It has nothing to do with past actions, just common sense.
I respect the reasoning behind this concern.
However not all Amarr will have an agenda beyond helping those in need.
My only issue is that if we continue to cling the old ways of suspicions and mistrust during a crisis such as this it wouldn't matter who wins the next fight if the outbreak is able to spread because we cannot resolve our differences.
Let's take care of those in need now, we can fight about it later.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1186
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:22:52 -
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The matter is resolved. Muttokon II is covered and likely with more ISK, assets and personnel behind it than the previous 'solution'. |
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1797
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:28:06 -
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Casserina Leshrac wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:I'm afraid to ask but what would this neutral third party be expected to do? Just monitor shipments going in and keep tabs on Amarrian warships being staged, if any? I'm on Mizhara's side for this, since I can only imagine that people going through what they are going through would probably not want those who once enslaved us offering a hand without our own around. Atleast I know I wouldn't. It has nothing to do with past actions, just common sense. I respect the reasoning behind this concern. However not all Amarr will have an agenda beyond helping those in need. My only issue is that if we continue to cling the old ways of suspicions and mistrust during a crisis such as this it wouldn't matter who wins the next fight if the outbreak is able to spread because we cannot resolve our differences. Let's take care of those in need now, we can fight about it later. Personally I agree with you on that. My only reason in this instance is; its a devastating event leaving them helpless, followed by Amarr coming to remove them from the contaminated areas and offer aid. They more than likely have the best of intentions (I have no evidence against that aside from a questionable track record). The psychological effect however is another thing. |
James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1493
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:37:55 -
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Good attentions aside, I would caution patience. Quarantine seems a rational precaution until more is known.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
724
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:44:09 -
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We at Hoi Andrapodistai have responded to this crisis by transferring 12,500 filthy Minmatar slaves TO the Efu V Moon 1 Genolution Station.
It is our hope that these slaves will become infected and before they glorify God in their deaths will allow my Science Graduates to isolate the pathogen and weaponize it against the Minmatar. |
Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
48
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:47:38 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Personally I agree with you on that. My only reason in this instance is; its a devastating event leaving them helpless, followed by Amarr coming to remove them from the contaminated areas and offer aid. They more than likely have the best of intentions (I have no evidence against that aside from a questionable track record). The psychological effect however is another thing.
Well I think the issues like in the centuries of hatred. We have an opportunity to put that aside. It may not right all the wrongs but it would be a step.
Historically Amarr transports were used for slave transports. However, they would be perfect for the movement of qualified personnel into the quarantine zone. Or move low-risk civilians out.
If it makes the Republic happy to have me under their guns and my ship boarded by the secuirty and medical personnel I can accept that.
Many independent contractors would want to help we just need some coordination and perhaps a list of supplies that are starting to run low.
When thou enterest into the Sani Sabik, the Sani Sabik entereth into thee.
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Veronique Crendraven
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:52:25 -
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Nauplius wrote:We at Hoi Andrapodistai have responded to this crisis by transferring 12,500 filthy Minmatar slaves TO the Efu V Moon 1 Genolution Station.
It is our hope that these slaves will become infected and before they glorify God in their deaths will allow my Science Graduates to isolate the pathogen and weaponize it against the Minmatar.
Are you planning to run the gauntlet of security to make your "shipment'?
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Sinti Vailatti
Angelis Exploration
245
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:56:17 -
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So...
Anyone here know what "false flag" means?
Asking for some friends.
GÇ£Where must we go...we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?GÇ¥
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1186
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Posted - 2017.02.13 22:59:31 -
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There are four different nations seemingly under attack at this point. There is no reason at all to risk the people or capsuleers involved by allocating yourself to the one nation you're likely an avowed enemy of when others are already covering that location. Good will and hearty huggles and so on are all well and good, but none of those things trump the primary priority here: The people affected by these attacks. The best help they can get is from their own people.
Billions are already spent and at work for Muttokon II simply on the off-chance capsuleers may gain humanitarian access. These people are being cared for as much as they can at this point, and if you seek to help people involved in this crisis I'm sure the other nations' loyalists will have room for you just like this one already has garnered a list of capsuleers ready to deploy. |
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