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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
And further more, every corporation in our ranks joined us because they believe in the cause against slavery. Every ally we gathered in the past joined us against you because they believed in the ideals we subscribe to. How many of your allies believe in your ideals of slavery and expansion of the Amarr empire? How many of them that you dragged into the QR with you to fight a war that you should be fighting were there for more than just the combat? How many of them did you trick into thinking that we were pirates just like you told Huzzah so they would join your defence gangs before we located to Providence?
Cold Steel Alliance Sev3rance North Star Confederation
Hardly renouned names in the pro-slavery camp. So why would they be interested in your fight against us unless you drag them with you? You open the floodgates and bring people who need have nothing to do with this fight into the arena to act as your cannon fodder and then expect us to maintain our composure? Respect you as we had done in the past? I have given you enough respect when I need not have. You will have no more.
And on the subject, you have grown fairly fast too. How many of your new corporations actually share your desire to expand the empire? Or are they simply padding for your industrial and military strength? You are not what you once were CVA. And I can no longer respect you.
I'd be cautious there. You had some corps in the past didn't know about the war ('Why are you shooting me in Amarr???') nor what U'K is standing for. We had to educate some of them (The Global ISK Network springs to mind immediately) quite regularly. Thus we very subjectively concluded at that time that U'K has started to pick up corps randomly to bolster your ranks. It is a very dangerous assumption - and I bet you will vehemently deny the above.
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Ikar Kaltin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor OK since no one seems to be ignoring this thread I will break ranks to say this to the CVA.
Bitternes? Yes, you are right. And it has reasons rooted in more than just losing QR. The very nature of your public bashing of our image shows you have already dropped the banner of respect on the floor yourselves. Tell me please why I should respect you now?
And further more, every corporation in our ranks joined us because they believe in the cause against slavery. Every ally we gathered in the past joined us against you because they believed in the ideals we subscribe to. How many of your allies believe in your ideals of slavery and expansion of the Amarr empire? How many of them that you dragged into the QR with you to fight a war that you should be fighting were there for more than just the combat? How many of them did you trick into thinking that we were pirates just like you told Huzzah so they would join your defence gangs before we located to Providence?
Cold Steel Alliance Sev3rance North Star Confederation
Hardly renouned names in the pro-slavery camp. So why would they be interested in your fight against us unless you drag them with you? You open the floodgates and bring people who need have nothing to do with this fight into the arena to act as your cannon fodder and then expect us to maintain our composure? Respect you as we had done in the past? I have given you enough respect when I need not have. You will have no more.
And on the subject, you have grown fairly fast too. How many of your new corporations actually share your desire to expand the empire? Or are they simply padding for your industrial and military strength? You are not what you once were CVA. And I can no longer respect you.
Ushrakhan. Lets be frank here. You have put yourself in this boat. All of the alliances you have named are the alliances you have oepned fire on in providence during your "CVA and friends only" raids who dont really like you for exactly that reason, since you shot at them, those who came along out of friendship for us, and more important aminosity to you, caused by you.
Whats more is you have the cheek to question us about our friends, when you bring pirates, who were not there because they believed in your ideals, and as well as this you send out broadcasts for help across all alliances. Hardly an anti-slaver bloc.
Ushrakhan, unlike you we have standards in our recruitment. Before any corporation joins there is an extensive observation period, and checks to make sure they live upto our standards and agree with our ideals. Of course, by the number of corporations that have left Ushrakhan recently, it hardly seems like these are in your alliance to fight the forces of slavery. Is it not central defiance who left a few months ago because they did not believe in the cause, and who now pirate next to systems you propogate unmolested by your forces?
CVA are not once they were. We are stronger, but our cause and belief remains the same. Unless you can say the same Darius do not accuse us of thing which are not true, and do not blame us because those you have shot and killed choose to shoot you back.
The Amarr shall prevail, and you shall fall terrorist. And public bashing of your image? Quite simply, you are terrorists, you raid my empire and kill those who take advantage of the free space policy we operate. It is our job to crush you beneath our heels.
You reap what you sow, deal with it. You have lost respect for us? I still hold respect for the prowess of some of your pilots, but the Ushrakhan name means nothing and its honour is in tatters.
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.28 23:15:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Ikar Kaltin
You reap what you sow, deal with it. You have lost respect for us? I still hold respect for the prowess of some of your pilots, but the Ushrakhan name means nothing and its honour is in tatters.
Remember the past and how thing revolve in cycles. Remember this quote in the future, you reap what you sow. You may well have lost respect for us (if a group that believes in divine righteousness can ever have respect for others) but your most recent attempts at a mini 'reclamation' only furthers the view of you as mindless space grabbers using an emporers 'will' as your justification. You are after all, paramilitaries also.
Ushrakhan is a cause, and it always has been. It means something to those that believe in it and they are still quite numerous. That can not be killed by your mindless grabbing of space. As for honour, why would we expect you to say any less? Honour is kept amongst friends and noble enemies. I only see shadows of what once was noble. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Stanley Savior
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Posted - 2007.04.29 01:51:00 -
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Quote: Originally by: Stanley Savior -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nah i doubt it they always cloak them selves. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Speaking from personal experience now?

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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.29 18:27:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 29/04/2007 18:23:44
Originally by: Darius Shakor OK since no one seems to be ignoring this thread I will break ranks to say this to the CVA.
Bitternes? Yes, you are right. And it has reasons rooted in more than just losing QR. The very nature of your public bashing of our image shows you have already dropped the banner of respect on the floor yourselves. Tell me please why I should respect you now?
And further more, every corporation in our ranks joined us because they believe in the cause against slavery. Every ally we gathered in the past joined us against you because they believed in the ideals we subscribe to. How many of your allies believe in your ideals of slavery and expansion of the Amarr empire? How many of them that you dragged into the QR with you to fight a war that you should be fighting were there for more than just the combat? How many of them did you trick into thinking that we were pirates just like you told Huzzah so they would join your defence gangs before we located to Providence?
Cold Steel Alliance Sev3rance North Star Confederation
Hardly renouned names in the pro-slavery camp. So why would they be interested in your fight against us unless you drag them with you? You open the floodgates and bring people who need have nothing to do with this fight into the arena to act as your cannon fodder and then expect us to maintain our composure? Respect you as we had done in the past? I have given you enough respect when I need not have. You will have no more.
And on the subject, you have grown fairly fast too. How many of your new corporations actually share your desire to expand the empire? Or are they simply padding for your industrial and military strength? You are not what you once were CVA. And I can no longer respect you.
The sound the IGS can hear now is the sound of the scales dropping from your eyes Darius. The realization you reach in the paragraphs above is rent with disappointment and disillusioned frustration but shines from within with the golden hope of a better future. Cherish this bitterness and anger Darius and use it - forge a weapon to better strike back against these creatures and then when you are ready to truly hurt them it will be time for us to speak again.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Corelous Alterrian
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Posted - 2007.04.29 19:36:00 -
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Being a pirate is like racing in the special olympics; even if you win, you're still a retard!
Have faith in God he will give you justice.
Freedom is a choice, Have you made yours?
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.30 00:02:00 -
[67]
For what it is worth I removed my post at maggot's request. If those that quoted want to follow up thats your business. ------
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zoolkhan
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.30 06:49:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Corelous Alterrian Being a pirate is like racing in the special olympics; even if you win, you're still a retard!
while funny for the average 13yr old schoolkid (until he loses a leg in the next car accident) it is not so funny for us who have seen wars IC as well as OC
i would expect this peace of ooc/political incorrectnes to be removed A.S.A.P
U'K recruit!
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.30 08:00:00 -
[69]
The previous exchanges of vitirol should be beneath the representatives of both U'K and the CVA.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.30 10:44:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Darius Shakor For what it is worth I removed my post at maggot's request. If those that quoted want to follow up thats your business.
Since you wish to retract your words I'll retract the quoting of them in respect.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.30 12:19:00 -
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Quote: I'd like to just step in and defend myself here, i'm no pirate, everyone of these so called "neutrals" that i have executed has been a supporter of CVA. I will lock down neutrals and ask them of their intentions and their relationship with CVA, i will only open fire if they admit they support the CVA.
I guess my only question is how do you ask the question? Secondly how do you define support. Example:
Terrorist> Do you support the CVA? Innocent Pilot> Yes BOOM!
But what do they support? Do they support the concept of slavery? Do they support the concept of expansion of the Amarr Empire? What is it they're supporting when they say yes?
Perhaps they support the taming of an untamed land, perhaps they support the open space and freedom to travel relatively free of danger, perhaps they support the right to live in a place with these benefits as long as they remain law abiding.
These are all admirable accomplishments brought to the benefit of mankind by the CVA. I support many things that are accomplishments of groups and individuals but that in no way indicates I support their underlying ideology.
Archbishop
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Paddington
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Posted - 2007.04.30 16:45:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: I'd like to just step in and defend myself here, i'm no pirate, everyone of these so called "neutrals" that i have executed has been a supporter of CVA. I will lock down neutrals and ask them of their intentions and their relationship with CVA, i will only open fire if they admit they support the CVA.
I guess my only question is how do you ask the question? Secondly how do you define support. Example:
Terrorist> Do you support the CVA? Innocent Pilot> Yes BOOM!
But what do they support? Do they support the concept of slavery? Do they support the concept of expansion of the Amarr Empire? What is it they're supporting when they say yes?
Perhaps they support the taming of an untamed land, perhaps they support the open space and freedom to travel relatively free of danger, perhaps they support the right to live in a place with these benefits as long as they remain law abiding.
These are all admirable accomplishments brought to the benefit of mankind by the CVA. I support many things that are accomplishments of groups and individuals but that in no way indicates I support their underlying ideology.
Archbishop
The Amarr Empire and the CVA is the scourge of mankind, if someone says they support them then they understand, even at the most basic level what CVA does and is willing to do to other humans. Your friends are not blind, they just choose to not see, I only try to open their eyes. You can plead their innocence all you like but you cannot fool me. No one is free until everyone is free.
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Redpants
Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.04.30 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Redpants on 30/04/2007 21:50:07
Originally by: Paddington The Amarr Empire and the CVA is the scourge of mankind, if someone says they support them then they understand, even at the most basic level what CVA does and is willing to do to other humans...
It's my understanding that CVA doesn't do anything to humans, just Minmatars.
"My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |

Redpants
Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.04.30 21:53:00 -
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OTHER humans. That's what I meant to say...easy mistake.
"My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |

Agustus Caesar
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.30 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Redpants Edited by: Redpants on 30/04/2007 21:50:07
Originally by: Paddington The Amarr Empire and the CVA is the scourge of mankind, if someone says they support them then they understand, even at the most basic level what CVA does and is willing to do to other humans...
It's my understanding that CVA doesn't do anything to humans, just Minmatars.
Said with all the wit of a four year old. -----------------------------
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Ikar Kaltin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.01 00:01:00 -
[76]
I would like to make a point here. Ushrakhan are terrotists and essentially pirates. They support pirates from their station, there is no denying this. They allow ENH to operate out of Unity because they couldnt deal with them I imagine, and they allow BUM to operate from there in their piracy throughout Providence, on neutral, friend and foe alike.
Ushrakhan you have fallen far.
You are beyond redemption.
You are beyond respect.
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Shina Windol
Caldari Raging Phoenix Incorporated North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.05.01 01:58:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: I'd like to just step in and defend myself here, i'm no pirate, everyone of these so called "neutrals" that i have executed has been a supporter of CVA. I will lock down neutrals and ask them of their intentions and their relationship with CVA, i will only open fire if they admit they support the CVA.
I guess my only question is how do you ask the question? Secondly how do you define support. Example:
Terrorist> Do you support the CVA? Innocent Pilot> Yes BOOM!
But what do they support? Do they support the concept of slavery? Do they support the concept of expansion of the Amarr Empire? What is it they're supporting when they say yes?
Perhaps they support the taming of an untamed land, perhaps they support the open space and freedom to travel relatively free of danger, perhaps they support the right to live in a place with these benefits as long as they remain law abiding.
These are all admirable accomplishments brought to the benefit of mankind by the CVA. I support many things that are accomplishments of groups and individuals but that in no way indicates I support their underlying ideology.
Archbishop
Aye. Though I am but a mere Caldari living in a land far away from the land of my fore-fathers, I have found myself and those who have entrusted their wellbeing to my care face the guns of the Ushra'Khan. I am an anti-pirate...plain and simple. I hold my people to the same standards as I hold myself. Within the first week of North Star Confederation having first stepped foot into the Providence Region, we found ourselves actively targeted by the Ushra'Khan and by those that operate out of their space.
I look at this conflict and I do indeed ask myself questions like Archbishop has proposed. Do I support slavery? Personally I do not approve of the institution but that is MY culture...the Amarr have theirs and it is from theirs that ANY change on the matter must come from. Do I support the expansion of the Amarr Empire? I find myself indifferent on the expansion of the Empire, but I DO find myself supporting the safety, freedom, and opportunity that such an expansion brings.
I do not share all of the ideals of CVA, of that I freely admit. I will NOT, however, stand by and see my people, and those innocents who have done nothing more than set foot into CVA claimed space, actively hunted and pursued by the Ushra'Khan and by those "allies" of theirs that sortee from Unity Station to pirate in order to fight a war.
By shooting neutrals that say 'yes' in the way that I do, good sir, you venture into political spheres that contain consequences that are best left untouched. For it is because of actions such as that that cause me, and people like me, to have no pity for the Minmatar cause and those that "fight" for it. THAT, sir, is why I fight alongside of CVA and why I am PROUD to call them friends and that that 'yes, I do support them' because, good sir, despite the issue and no matter how pitched the battle, they take their duties seriously and put their faith and honor at stake to keep the innocents safe. I have seen no such effort from Ushra'Khan, only actions that undermine the support of your position and the arguments that you make.
THAT, good sir, is why I shall never have pity for the cause or plight of the Ushra'Khan and why I will feel no remorse when activating my modules upon those who show exactly why the term 'terrorist' is used to describe them. May you come to realize the error in your ways and may whatever god you believe in have mercy on you when you come to be judged, for until the day Ushra'Khan decides to fight with honor, I will have none.
May those of Providence live and prosper in stability by the precepts of honor and integrity. ----------------------------------
Shina Windol Executor of the North Star Confederation CEO of Raging Phoenix Incorporated 1st Fleet Overseer, Iron Guard Legion NSTAR SDF
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.01 02:24:00 -
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In the last few days alone I have been called terrorist, fanatic, murderer, traitor and pirate.
I may inspire terror in those who would enslave my people but I am not a terrorist. I leave that to the Amarr and their death camps.
If I am fanatical then is born of a love of freedom and of my people. I will defend both with every fibre of my being.
I have killed many but I am no murderer. Either directly or by proxy those who have fallen under my guns had the blood of my people on their hands.
A traitor to a political system that betrays it's own people is no traitor at all.
I am no pirate, my people are not a commodity to be stolen. Those who transport my people are not traders, they are hostage takers and war criminals.
You can call me all the names you like. It changes nothing. I see the true face of the CVA and their lackeys. I see their 'associates' attacking civilian shipping. I see all of that and more with my own eyes so your flimsy denials and spin doctoring mean nothing to me. I will not waste by breath countering these baseless accusations and sensationalist hype as frankly it is beneath me.
As long as you terrorise our people and enslave them there will always be war between us and wars are not won on GalNet.
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Redpants
Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.05.01 06:29:00 -
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CVA's associates, or "associates" as you put it attacking neutral civilian shipping? These must not be real associates or you wouldn't have put the term in quotations.
Either way Minmatar, I find it hard to believe.
Here's what I do believe. While I'm not a personal backer of the Amarrian Empire or many of their policies including the slave trade, I believe that the Ushra'Khan are opportunistic, dishonorable thugs who rove the Providence region NOT to ensure its security but to raise hell for the sake of raising hell and to be a general thorn in the side of its residents. I believe that much of your actions in that Minmatar insanity club you call Ushra'Khan are not backed by some glorious and noble cause for freedom but piracy with a fancy excuse for piracy. Nothing more.
Few people in New Eden agree with slaving outside the Amarrian territories, so ask yourselves why is it that you all have such an uphill battle in gaining respect and backing from those not personally rooted in the struggle? Ushra'Khan should have the support of 3/4 of the galaxy in terms of sympathizers, yet you are on the short end of the stick. Why?
Is it because your Alliance beats its war drums for a hollow cause due to your collective actions and blatent propaganda? Is it because CVA stands on a pillar far above the dirt hole Ushra'Khan has for ground to stand on? Is it because CVA and the Amarrians show true grit and honor, and honor truth and loyalty where Ushra'Khan is selfish and irresponsible with their policies, actions and dealings with pilots of neighboring systems?
Maybe those aren't simple questions with simple answers. But all I know is I once felt that in the beginning, Ushra'Khan was on the "good" side of what seemed "right." After meeting this sect of Minmatars in space however that impression has been shattered by your aggressions and conduct. CVA and the Amarrians I deal with daily, have earned my respect and trust. I stand with them.
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Ontaku Oroa
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.01 07:54:00 -
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Quote: Few people in New Eden agree with slaving outside the Amarrian territories, so ask yourselves why is it that you all have such an uphill battle in gaining respect and backing from those not personally rooted in the struggle? Ushra'Khan should have the support of 3/4 of the galaxy in terms of sympathizers, yet you are on the short end of the stick. Why?
Because 3/4 of the galaxy care more about lining their own pockets than other people. Because 3/4 of the galaxy are complacent to turn a blind eye to the suffering of others as long as it does not concern them directly. Because 3/4 of the galaxy would not risk their lives to help the nameless, opressed, faceless victims of a cruel regime which is far, far removed from the comfort of their own places of dwelling.
But you know what? We care not. We believe in our struggle. We *live* our struggle. We are fanatics. And as such, we cannot and shall not be broken or swayed from the course of truth and justice by any force, least of all by hollow propaganda of the CVA and their supporters.
Now you may go along with the idea that frowning or sadly shaking your head when you see news of another Amarr raid which enslaved thousands of people is enough to mark you as a "supporter" of freedom. In the face of lunacy that pervades the entire Amarr society and even infects those beyond their borders with dreams of greed and power over other people simply shaking one's head and frowning will never ever be enough.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.01 08:21:00 -
[81]
Redpants, the associates remark was directed very specifically. Your masters know what I mean and I have no reason or desire to explain it to the galactic community.
You chose to support the slavery and oppression of our people. That makes you my enemy. I do not care if you only do it for profit, you support slavery.
Hurl all the bitter little insults you like, you chose your path.
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Kabajashi San
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.01 08:39:00 -
[82]
From my point of view you fail to understand our reason to be, NSC. We are not in Providence to provide safety for residents or bypassers. We are not there to establish order and civilization. We are there to have a basis for our operations in the fight for our brothers freedom. We fight CVA and alike. With whatever means we have.
I don't care who passes by or who wants to live there. If he minds his own business, fine by me. If he starts to support slavers, directly or indirectly, I will engage him. I will fight every possible way for my brothers in chains.
So yes, if you want security and order, ask CVA. If you want a backbone and a common understanding of Ethics, better not. As my previous speaker said, you are like most of the universe (I'd say even more like 95%): You care for a cause if it benefits you personally. If it doesn't you give a damn about people suffering. Now think for a moment who the true pirate is here.
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Tiger Ash
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Posted - 2007.05.01 10:02:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Tiger Ash on 01/05/2007 09:58:13
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Paddington
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Posted - 2007.05.01 10:59:00 -
[84]
1) You call an Amarrian backed space a free state? You really have swallowed a lot of the old propaganda...
2) I have spoken to members of the alliance North Star Confederation, they told me the only reason you buddied up with CVA is because they are "Strong" Now that you find they cannot defend their slave tenants, you call the Ushrakhan un-honourable... you make me laugh.
3) NSF if you do not believe in what the CVA is doing, you are just in providence to line your pockets at the expensive of the CVA and thier slaves. You show weak morals and ideals, even if you say you donĘt support slavery you are willing to turn a blind eye to it? I am glad you are not on our "side".
So enough is enough, you have made your intentions clear, you are weak minded sheep!
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.01 11:50:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Ikar Kaltin They allow ENH to operate out of Unity because they couldnt deal with them I imagine
Out of respect for you Ikar, one I consider an honorable foe I will respond to this. You have a fertile imagination though, I guess thats displaced from your withered loins?
The facts are simple, ENH approached us offering to unite with us against a common foe. We knocked them back out of respect for our neighbours. Our neighbours meanwhile forged NAPs with the likes of yourselves and the alchos you call friends - at knife point as it were - but none-the-less they knowingly took that step.
We kept on fighting ENH regardless, knowing of the change in power about us, knowing that many we called friends were now at least tacitly supporting you, fighting pretty much alone accept for those who don't forget like BUM. Then ENH approached us again and this time we listened harder.
The message was clear, they wished to fight with us against you, the slaver, the oppressors of humanity. Does it suprise you that those you lable 'pirate' can loathe slavery as much as the next man?
It saddens me to see the more peaceful peoples of providence turn their backs on us and embrace the hypocritical 'security' CVA offer, but you reap what you sow. There is no sitting on the fence with matters of life and death.
No, that is not a declaration of war on our old friends in Providence. I for one still hold hope they will see the sense in standing up to your strongarm diplomacy.
You Ikar, you and your ilk are the enemy, we do what we must to fight you. Remember that.
Death to slavery! -----------------------------------------
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Raane Thyandar
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.01 13:13:00 -
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Look into their methods of fighting, because yesterday they tried to ransom a member of PIE just 1 jump from your outpost in a bubble camp.
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Maggot
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.05.01 14:32:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Raane Thyandar Look into their methods of fighting, because yesterday they tried to ransom a member of PIE just 1 jump from your outpost in a bubble camp.
I hope the pilot failed to pay and died.
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Black Necris
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Posted - 2007.05.01 15:11:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: I'd like to just step in and defend myself here, i'm no pirate, everyone of these so called "neutrals" that i have executed has been a supporter of CVA. I will lock down neutrals and ask them of their intentions and their relationship with CVA, i will only open fire if they admit they support the CVA.
I guess my only question is how do you ask the question? Secondly how do you define support. Example:
Terrorist> Do you support the CVA? Innocent Pilot> Yes BOOM!
But what do they support? Do they support the concept of slavery? Do they support the concept of expansion of the Amarr Empire? What is it they're supporting when they say yes?
Perhaps they support the taming of an untamed land, perhaps they support the open space and freedom to travel relatively free of danger, perhaps they support the right to live in a place with these benefits as long as they remain law abiding.
These are all admirable accomplishments brought to the benefit of mankind by the CVA. I support many things that are accomplishments of groups and individuals but that in no way indicates I support their underlying ideology.
Archbishop
I have seen CVA roam our space with neutrals who are on a two man corp, and even drop a "amarr victor" dumb thing on local. The stop and questioning its as fair as it can be.. will CVA dont shoot a neutral if his bio says UK friendly?? dont claim you wont cose i have seen it happen also...
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Kabajashi San
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.05.01 15:14:00 -
[89]
I am sure he paid whatever was asked to rescue his miserable life. No slaver scum pilot one jump away from our system should wonder if he loses his life by whomever. Stick to your mighty empire and go read books, this area is not safe for you.
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Ikar Kaltin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.01 16:02:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Black Necris
Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: I'd like to just step in and defend myself here, i'm no pirate, everyone of these so called "neutrals" that i have executed has been a supporter of CVA. I will lock down neutrals and ask them of their intentions and their relationship with CVA, i will only open fire if they admit they support the CVA.
I guess my only question is how do you ask the question? Secondly how do you define support. Example:
Terrorist> Do you support the CVA? Innocent Pilot> Yes BOOM!
But what do they support? Do they support the concept of slavery? Do they support the concept of expansion of the Amarr Empire? What is it they're supporting when they say yes?
Perhaps they support the taming of an untamed land, perhaps they support the open space and freedom to travel relatively free of danger, perhaps they support the right to live in a place with these benefits as long as they remain law abiding.
These are all admirable accomplishments brought to the benefit of mankind by the CVA. I support many things that are accomplishments of groups and individuals but that in no way indicates I support their underlying ideology.
Archbishop
I have seen CVA roam our space with neutrals who are on a two man corp, and even drop a "amarr victor" dumb thing on local. The stop and questioning its as fair as it can be.. will CVA dont shoot a neutral if his bio says UK friendly?? dont claim you wont cose i have seen it happen also...
No, we dont shoot people because they have UK friendly in their bio. People are legitematly allowed to go about their business in 9uy, we respect their decision. We recognise people put that so that certain elements wont shoot them when they are there. We only attack people who have proven themselves hostile to us.
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