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D'Narisha
Enrave Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.07.27 10:58:00 -
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I have this skill at lvl3, and honestly don't experience any benefits from it at that level. And then, if shields dip below 10-20%, I'm likely not that far away from armor damage anyways .
Any insight would be appreciated. -------------------------------------------- Would you tell me how could it be any better than this? |
Ar Inziladun
United Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.27 12:18:00 -
[152]
/DEV REPLY
DAILY BUMPAGE
What is a sheild tanker to do? Tactical Shield Manipulation is Broken, Please help us fix it! |
Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 16:44:00 -
[153]
Welcome to Page 6 of the thread that will never be answered....
What ever happened to that second petition?
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Ryf
Minmatar Suicidal Mercenaries The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.07.27 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ryf on 27/07/2007 20:37:38
Originally by: Kwint Sommer
What ever happened to that second petition?
Still no response to either my first petition (which they claimed to have answered) or my second petition (in which I inquired about the non-existant answer to my first petition).
I'm tempted to file a third petition to ask about my second petition in which I inquired about the non-existant answer to my first petition which they claimed to have closed but for which I can find no answer.
However, the following is from the CCP Petition Guidelines:
Quote: 5. Please do not file multiple petitions about the same subject. This will only increase the petition load and doing so repeatedly may result in actions being taken against your account.
6. Please do not file petitions to ask if your petition will be answered soon. Unfortunately the waiting time is very long at the moment but we assure you that your petition is in the queue and will be answered when the time comes.
So I guess we'll all be waiting around indefinately......
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Ilvania
Minmatar Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.27 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ryf Edited by: Ryf on 27/07/2007 20:37:38
Originally by: Kwint Sommer
What ever happened to that second petition?
Still no response to either my first petition (which they claimed to have answered) or my second petition (in which I inquired about the non-existant answer to my first petition).
I'm tempted to file a third petition to ask about my second petition in which I inquired about the non-existant answer to my first petition which they claimed to have closed but for which I can find no answer.
However, the following is from the CCP Petition Guidelines:
Quote: 5. Please do not file multiple petitions about the same subject. This will only increase the petition load and doing so repeatedly may result in actions being taken against your account.
6. Please do not file petitions to ask if your petition will be answered soon. Unfortunately the waiting time is very long at the moment but we assure you that your petition is in the queue and will be answered when the time comes.
So I guess we'll all be waiting around indefinately......
So your petition got nerfed? This skill needs to a; not be broken b; do something that is actually usefull.
or how about CCP puts this in the game makes about as much sense to me
Tactical Capacitor Management; skill at preventing the capacitor from recharing, including the use of capacitor chargers and other advanced capacitor modules. Reduces the output of the capacitor when it falls below 25% by 5% per skill level, with 0% chance at level 5. required skill for all Amarr Capital ships.
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Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.07.27 22:41:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Ilvania how about CCP puts this in the game makes about as much sense to me
Tactical Capacitor Management; skill at preventing the capacitor from recharing, including the use of capacitor chargers and other advanced capacitor modules. Reduces the output of the capacitor when it falls below 25% by 5% per skill level, with 0% chance at level 5. required skill for all Amarr Capital ships.
Sounds about right to me, except they would need an equivalent time sink/harmful skill for armor tankers. It should also be broken at L5 that way once you have it that high you'll just have wasted a million SP but won't suffer from poor regeneration....
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Solbright altaltalt
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.07.28 04:50:00 -
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Interesting, is level 5 really broken?
If so then, a) this skill is solely for tech2 hardners and has no other benefit. Rather costly on the training. And b) level 5 and level 0 are the two best levels to have because then the shield resists stay active for longer. Which makes level 4 the worst. Which is a bit of a sucky situation as pointed out by many.
I can see why this thread exists. Even if level 5 was fixed it'd be an unwanted skill.
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Cleveland Steam
Neverland Ranch Hands
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Posted - 2007.07.28 16:01:00 -
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I wish people would read the arugment thoroughly before posting "it works for me!". If you have TSM trained to levels 1-4, then yes, it does work. But @ lvl 5 it does not.
Again to recap...
Tactical Shield Manipulation I -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation II -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation III -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation V -- DOESNT work as advertised
Yes, I have it trained to 5 and it makes me a sad panda.
Plz dont nerf my sig again... |
Buckeroo Bonzai
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Posted - 2007.07.28 16:38:00 -
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I agree with you guys lv 5 IS broken and has been since the beginning. Unfortunately I have to train it so I can train Capital Ship Shield Operations :( I don't see CCP fixing this anytime soon or even giving us an answer. |
Ilvania
Minmatar Teeth Of The Hydra R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.29 12:26:00 -
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The real question is how many months will it take to get a Dev to even post that they read the thread. At this point I would be satisfied with some acknowledgement.
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RedeyeAce
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Posted - 2007.07.29 15:32:00 -
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/signed
Come one dev's.. please at least tell us you've seen this?? and any ideas on what you think.. is it being discussed??
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dodgy242
Corpus PCG The State
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Posted - 2007.07.29 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cleveland Steam I wish people would read the arugment thoroughly before posting "it works for me!". If you have TSM trained to levels 1-4, then yes, it does work. But @ lvl 5 it does not.
Again to recap...
Tactical Shield Manipulation I -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation II -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation III -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV -- Works as advertised
Tactical Shield Manipulation V -- DOESNT work as advertised
Yes, I have it trained to 5 and it makes me a sad panda.
Good recap BTW, unsubtle and to the point.
HELP THIS THREAD : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=520085 |
Rystin Timbal
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Posted - 2007.07.30 00:55:00 -
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Bump.
What is going on here?
This thread has alot of good points, the fundamental one being that SOMETHING IN THIS GAME IS BROKEN AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
As levels 1-4 work okay, I'm going to go out on a limb and say getting 5 to work shouldn't be too hard.
New content is cool, as long as the old stuff works.
Please, Devs, tell us what can be done about this, that you are aware of this thread or even that you aren't going to fix it. Customers want to know.
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Ryf
Minmatar Suicidal Mercenaries The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.07.30 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ryf on 30/07/2007 16:21:47 I can not believe that no dev has viewed this thread, especialy considering my petition (see above).
It seems that THE DEVS HAVE GOT TO BE INTENTIONALLY IGNORING THIS ISSUE for some reason.
You you agree? Disagree? Discuss among yourselves.....
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DRMALIKIA
United Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.30 17:12:00 -
[165]
/DEV REPLY
DAILY BUMPAGE
What is a sheild tanker to do?
Originally by: CrestoftheStars if you don't bother to read the tread could you pls keep your comment out of it ? please:) |
RedLion
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.30 20:29:00 -
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I'm training this to lvl 4 :S
Sad thing is that the "bonus" from this skill really isn't any "bonus" and this bugs me... Good to know it's bugged on lvl 5 so I can get it to lvl 5 and stat getting damage through my shield on lower shield levels again.
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dodgy242
Corpus PCG The State
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:13:00 -
[167]
Originally by: RedLion I'm training this to lvl 4 :S
Sad thing is that the "bonus" from this skill really isn't any "bonus" and this bugs me... Good to know it's bugged on lvl 5 so I can get it to lvl 5 and stat getting damage through my shield on lower shield levels again.
The problem is that I and others NEED it at 5 to use a module on a carrier.
HELP THIS THREAD : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=520085 |
Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.07.30 21:43:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Kwint Sommer on 30/07/2007 21:43:38
Originally by: dodgy242
Originally by: RedLion I'm training this to lvl 4 :S
Sad thing is that the "bonus" from this skill really isn't any "bonus" and this bugs me... Good to know it's bugged on lvl 5 so I can get it to lvl 5 and stat getting damage through my shield on lower shield levels again.
The problem is that I and others NEED it at 5 to use a module on a carrier.
I'm one of those people, I've got about a month to work on some other carrier skills but taking this to L5 is absolutely mandatory if you plan on getting your Carrier shot.
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A Winkelried
Caldari Absolutely No Return The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.07.31 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: A Winkelried on 31/07/2007 10:20:09 /signed
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DRMALIKIA
United Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.31 14:29:00 -
[170]
/DEV RESPONSE PLEASE
DAILY BUMPAGE.
ôAll political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.ö
George Orwell
Originally by: CrestoftheStars if you don't bother to read the tread could you pls keep your comment out of it ? please:) |
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Haradgrim
Caldari The Wild Bunch
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Posted - 2007.07.31 20:08:00 -
[171]
Yay, one more completely legitimate bug that CCP has never and will never comment on!
If there are two things that I hate in this game it's:
1) stopgap skills that have no benefit and only serve as a bottle neck for more advanced skills(and thankfully there are very few).
2) CCP's complete lack of comment on issues that have a significant effect on a large portion of the player base (i.e. like the one in the OP or the realtek sound crashing issue (which they have commented on but not in a direct fashion))
Every single skill level should have a positive effect on one's character, imho.
C'mon CCP, give us an answer, you know you want to! - Haradgrim [-WB-]
That.which.does.not.bend.breaks |
Rystin Timbal
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Posted - 2007.07.31 23:53:00 -
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I have the soundcrash issue, I have to play in total silence game wise. Now that's a staying point...
/BUMP
Please Dev's, have a look?
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Caiman Graystock
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:20:00 -
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Hate to repeat what has already been said but I simply can't believe CCP are sitting by and ignoring this issue, wth?
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Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2007.08.01 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim Yay, one more completely legitimate bug that CCP has never and will never comment on!
If there are two things that I hate in this game it's:
1) stopgap skills that have no benefit and only serve as a bottle neck for more advanced skills(and thankfully there are very few).
2) CCP's complete lack of comment on issues that have a significant effect on a large portion of the player base (i.e. like the one in the OP or the realtek sound crashing issue (which they have commented on but not in a direct fashion))
Every single skill level should have a positive effect on one's character, imho.
C'mon CCP, give us an answer, you know you want to!
I generally agree with you.
1) Advanced Spaceship Command is bull****, I don't care if CCP want to throw some ISK sinks in before you can pilot a capital ship but this is a complete waste of a month. At the very least they could make the agility bonus apply to all ships not just capitals but that is a whine for another time...
2) I've seen them at least give vague lip service to the Realtek audio bug (they usually refuse to say Realtek) over the last year but such comments are few and far between. Much like their initial silence on desynch issues. I understand and agree that they have better things to do than read every whine on the forums but this thread has been here for 2 months, is one of the longest on this subsection of the forum and brings up serious concerns and bugs with a high rank skill that has to be trained to L5 for capital shield tanking. The lack of a dev so much as saying "I noticed this thread and will look into it" is infuriating....
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Malcanis
High4Life Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.01 21:48:00 -
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A Dev saying "yeah I'll look in to it" and then nothing happening is pretty frustrating too
(I'm looking at you, Drones dev.)
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
dodgy242
Corpus PCG The State
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis A Dev saying "yeah I'll look in to it" and then nothing happening is pretty frustrating too
(I'm looking at you, Drones dev.)
But at least that's something, we're in the dark here. Even a "we can't be bothered at the moment" comment would suffice.
Also, on the sell forum, the minute somebody starts commenting on some big BPO sale the moderators are there immediately, maybe we should find a troll so that at least the mods see this thread...
HELP THIS THREAD : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=520085 |
Gone'Postal
Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:10:00 -
[177]
BUMPAGE!!!
Please fix this oh gods of eve...(read: More like drunken asshats) *while your at it, take a look at the drones too.... Your drone Dev might be dead. ---- Known Issues & Workarounds! For when the CCP fail us, Thankgod for the player's. |
DRMALIKIA
United Technologies
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal BUMPAGE!!!
Please fix this oh gods of eve...(read: More like drunken asshats) *while your at it, take a look at the drones too.... Your drone Dev might be dead.
/DAILY DEV BUMPAGE!
Ooh they are drunk, they are reading this thread, and they have no clue what to say. By admitting fault, they open themselves up to more criticism. It is easier to just ignore the issue, and then you do not have to fix it or claim responsibility.
At this point, just keep the posting up. I see the NOS nerf got to 33 something pages before it got a response from the devs so we have a long way to go, lol!
Originally by: CrestoftheStars if you don't bother to read the tread could you pls keep your comment out of it ? please:) |
Wosret Gahiji
Caldari SoulFuric Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:48:00 -
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/Signed.
This is turning into a big joke.
A little attention <A HREF="http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=520085">here</A> please?
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Vandigeth
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Posted - 2007.08.02 22:33:00 -
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This is the first time I've ever used the eve forum and I've been playing for 3 years. It is absolutely true it does not work as advertised at level 5, because I left it at level 4 for over a year. In a flash I was rarely taking damage at low shields and then all the sudden I'm taking more. So ever since then I've just coped with it. Seeing this thread though, I decided to sign. Something does need to be done with this skill. At least confirmation on whether or not it is actually broken according to CCP, that would be really nice to know.
signed
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