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Thulazgu
Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:04:00 -
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OK we got this straight titan and its fittings is rather expensive but i missed the part of the risk. I have an Audi S8 sitting on my parking lot but its a huge risk to leave in through out the night but oh yeah it has cloaking abilities :S its the same as you say you are taking risk with your titan by jump bridging it across the galaxy i means ---- Live to win, 'till you die, 'till the light dies in your eyes Live to win, take it all, just keep fighting till you fall ~~[Thulazgu Lo'Fayinoq]~~ |
Pizi
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Pizi on 26/06/2007 12:41:51 I really dont see any risk
The titan jumps into the system and cloaks the freighters warp to the station
If ist massivly camped he just refuses to jump in
If ist an logintrap the titan safespots and cloaks
If you want to catch the titan you need 100-200 people and a massive cap fleet 23/7
So either RAgoon camp that system or defend their stations
So 4-5 people bind 100-200 people .. really not worth with that little success rate
This thread startet when titans were imune to bubbles, there was really no risk for 3 month and that traderoute generatet 2-3 titans of ISK but even now i can see the high risk
Maybe you can show me the HIGH risk the titan takes
Again i hate to repeat myself but CCP did allready nerf plexes and missions Mission runners sell tags to PLAYERS with rev2 since they needed for the LP shop Noone is sellin nexus chips to npc, cause there are so many better offers in the LP shop All these NPC offers do is generatin a floor fort he value of chips and tags for player buy orders
Drop that 35 bill plex argument , it got nerved allready, again by CCP because they saw the ISK injedtion as too high ?
Yes i want to get this particular traderoute (and if others like this exist) axed , because ist only doable by 3 other in the same amount of time ansd risk
Im not saying new players cant catch up im saying if they make 1 mill a day strugglin to get into an BS and read that others make a titan in an month they MAY FEEL that they never catch up
Quote: In fact, such rich's would make new players want a peice of the action and join up into the 0.0 community rather that become a high sec empire slave for the rest of their life, and this is a good thing!
im sure bob accepts all the noobs that want a share of the ungoodly income of that traderoute .
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.26 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 26/06/2007 13:17:28 There is little point discussing further. If you beleive a Titan is invincible, then excellent. If you dont know how to break traderoutes, via force or, if you lack force, then creative thinking, then I suggest that you speak to someone who can.
I also suggest you read the mission forums, especially with regards to nexus chips and LP. Perhaps then you will relise the Flaw in your NPC tradegood argument. --
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Devian 666
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.26 21:23:00 -
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There's a lot of garbage thinking in this thread.
The titan is exposing itself to risk by flying around. The total value inside the freighters is substantial and would be well worth snagging.
In relation to the LP store the market prices are now starting to fall through the floor. There are a bunch of idiots cashing in faction ships and selling them for 500 isk/lp or less. The clever players running missions for the right corps will sell the nexus chips, buy a faction ship and have isk left over to fit it.
There are price caps for both highs and lows built into eve and knowing which mechanism to use in the current market state will net you the most isk.
Play smart and don't bag others that do.
On a side not I have noticed macro courier mission runners now working for npc R&D corps. They've latched onto this already. Soooooo inappropriate! -Incognus I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. |
Kylar Renpurs
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Posted - 2007.06.26 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 26/06/2007 23:32:34
Quote: Play smart and don't bag others that do.
Quoted for truth and justice and all that jazz.
I ground missions for about 4 months getting my first 100 mil. Then I learnt what proper running of missions was all about, and started making that each week. Then about 3 months ago, I learnt the magic of AFK income, and the simplicity of it. Knowing what I do now, I could have had so much money now if I knew the things I do now when I was a noob. That's not unfair game mechanics. That's experience.
People whinge and moan that it's a "Rich get richer, poor get poorer" world in EVE. What rubbish.
I'll put the challenge out for someone to get me an account, and I'll earn 100 mil off it in two weeks without any assistance from my existing accounts, or from existing friends, and without scamming. For the record, I've even heard of people who could do better than that in a day. For a *fresh* newbie to earn that much, in the face of a hardened veteran with billions in equipment in dangerous space, equipment that can only be used after months of training, I think that's pretty damn fair.
Because stuffed if I'm going to play a game that lets me earn the same amount of cash with my time-hardened character that a newbie could. Improve Market Competition! |
Clatita
Minmatar United Warriors Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:48:00 -
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This is the way i see this:
If you're a new player you barely make 1M per day. After 1 year you can make easily 50M/day ratting in 0.0 or whatever else you prefer to do. After 3 years of playing and building up an alliance, investing billions into the production of titans and freighters, why shouldn't you be able to make 2.2B/day.
Besides, how much ISK did people make if they owned a T2 BPO prior Revelations? Enough to buy more T2 BPO's and make more money then every new player could dream about.
Besides that 2.2B is for the entire alliance consisting of over 1000 players. Divide it and you'll see that the effort of that many players was needed to achieve this possibility.
Besides, If you do this you probably have posses on the route. Those need fuel and need to be defended. If there are no posses a titan is literally locked down for some time when he generates the jumpportal so a sitting duck for a prepared fleet with a high success rate of killing it and maybe the freighters (don't really know how the jump portal is working but if it works like a cyno, then he's locked down for 10minutes, without being able to move or cloak)
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Galmar Grief
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Posted - 2007.07.14 22:59:00 -
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I really think this whole thing is utter bull to be honest.
NPC traderoutes and the tradegoods market in Empire was a stealth nerf, I remember CCP's response eventually saying they wanted the markets to be more player driven and dynamic.
Now it seems that in 0.0 space in a few areas these "static routes" are now back in game.
I thought these routes were eliminated, once more we find out randomly that theres basic ingame mechanics that certain people have knowledge of and are basicly making risk free tons of profits with minimal effort each day.
I really don't have to or don't want to go into the whole "zomg bob dev sabres hax abuse spawning plexes dsisahero" stuff, regardless of who is profiting from this, its cleary at least in my mind completely moronic. Why on earth this is allowed I can only speculate, I can't honestly believe making 2.2bill for "free" essentially 1 minute after downtime every 24 hours is justifiable for any "rp" reasons or makes any sence at all.
And as for all of the people who seem to think there is any element of risk involved at all... hah. Anyone who's used a capship knows that cynoing to an NPC stations undocking ramp, unless you're dread bumped is pretty guarenteed to be safe, and certain NPC stations you can get a fair distance from and still be within the dock range.
This annoys me.
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Kerighan
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Posted - 2007.08.23 15:37:00 -
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This is definitely not a bug. It is a game feature. Because inside BoB there are some of the programmers and testers that work at this game. If it is a bug and the titan owner and his accolties is exploiting it i'm completely sure that the CCP personel would have banned him already just like the like they banned that guy that uncovered the mentaly ill dude from T20 incident. Exploiting a bug is a violation of the EULA. The BoB coalition is made of such experienced and good players that they don't need to cheat. They never did that otherwise they would have been banned as a violation of the EULA. This Titan trade bussines is a game feature otherwise the titan pilot would have been already informed by his developer corp mates that this is a bug and wouldn't use it. And if CCP will make something to remove that route without banning him for exploiting a bug will discredit themselves.
Do you think that the Titan owner would risk that? Do you think that the entire BoB coalition would risk to loose an experienced pilot and that Titan that he owns?
I have complete confidence in CCP personel and their work at reinforcing the EULA.
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.08.23 15:44:00 -
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This still going on?
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.23 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Taurequis This still going on?
Yes.
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Investigador
Caldari Hator inc
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Posted - 2007.08.23 23:58:00 -
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I was told that a player on a BS can make 100mill/day ratting on a *good* 0.0 system = NPC NS with 1.88mill bounties.
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.08.25 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Stuff
Stop pretending this trade route exploit is a "serious" risk to Titans. It just isn't. How many Titans have died in combat (not logged out or afk?) That's right, one.
To insinuate that a "well laid" trap could get a Titan engaging in this behavior is absurd. Perhaps, if the Titan pilot was a complete nub, and an alliance worked out an unconventional trap that might take 6 months to plan.
Lets see, 6 months (we are fooling ourselves here because the Titan will never be in danger) of 2.2 billion a day... is about 401.5 Billion isk.
And as for all of the other stuff you mentioned, missions, etc, etc...
Running missions does NOT bring in 2.2 billion isk a day, for anyone. And we are talking all day, what is being mentioned in this thread takes 40 minutes.
Not to mention, running plexes, missioning, etc involves much more substantial risk than jump bridging a bunch of Freighters with a friggen' Titan.
-Karlemgne
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