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Jensen Blayloc Minmatar Galtech Security Services	Posted - 2007.08.21 20:16:00 - [271] I am not a fan of local in any space. I think that there should be skills and modules for scanning. The area scanned is a function of the power available to the scanner and the skill of the user. I think POS's should have scanners available that can be accessed in station and could possibly (with the right tower) reach to ajoining systems. You could take this farther and be able to rent scanners in offices in NPC stations in empire space. Right now, true recon is a lost art, covert ops are not really that covert, and scouting is for people setting up gate camps. Most of which seem to be in hi-sec space nowadays with all the suicide farmers.. Yeah.. THATS PvP.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:10:00 - [272] Originally by: Vyyrus If you want to remove local for 0.0 than give us people who live in drone regions rats with bounties and security status... Why do you even post? your post is equivalent to someone saying they want to reove nos and you coming up and saying "if you want to remove nos please nerf mining lasers" your post has no relevance and if everyone against the idea posted like you then it would definitely get implemented right away ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:20:00 - [273] Originally by: Felysta Sandorn STOP BUMPING YOUR OWN THREAD! LET IT DIE! Local stays and that's the end of the argument! stop trolling my thread - it only takes one email ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.08.25 15:46:00 - [274] I've posted ideas on this on the suggestions section. Link in my sig. Summary is: If there are no tools given to players to help with the removal of local, local stays. And besides, removing local after its been with EVE for over 4 years codewise... well I dont even want to consider how bug-ridden that can of worms being opened will feel like. - NPC Vendetta system, Local rehash, Probe decoys
Bodhisattvas mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.08.25 16:25:00 - [275] 0.0 muppets much a do about *******s
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.25 17:04:00 - [276] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari I've posted ideas on this on the suggestions section. Link in my sig. Summary is: If there are no tools given to players to help with the removal of local, local stays. And besides, removing local after its been with EVE for over 4 years codewise... well I dont even want to consider how bug-ridden that can of worms being opened will feel like. a lot of things have been broken for years and then they get fixed thats an excuse when you dont really have an argument ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Ni'ka	Posted - 2007.08.25 20:10:00 - [277] Fully support idea of removing local chat.
UPA Terf Scorn Again.	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:04:00 - [278] Edited by: UPA Terf on 25/08/2007 21:04:30 Removing local. Is a terrible idea because simply: 1) Individuals and small corps will NOT be able to use 0.0 and will be forced into alliances which is not what everyone wants. So noone will move out there which is exceptionally contradictory to the "get more people in lowsec/0.0" mission statement 2) If you remove it, you would create a MASSIVE imbalance in pvpers and non pvpers as instead of safespots running to pos's etc it becomes warp to gate "oh no" dead "back to empire" this issue is all about small corps and individuals dont make this more of an alliance only game.
Acki Juc Caldari NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:21:00 - [279] Edited by: Acki Juc on 25/08/2007 21:21:47 I've said it once before and I will say it again. The removal of local is a bad idea. Reasons that support my claim can be found throughout this thread. Blog.
Yagyu Retsudo Yagyu Holdings	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:26:00 - [280] Originally by: Ni'ka Fully support idea of removing local chat. Firmly AGAINST the idea of removing local chat.
Vorian Atraties Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.08.25 21:51:00 - [281] why do you people want to remove local, then you wouldent have a place to smack at. unless you plan on sending people evemails v
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.25 22:47:00 - [282] Originally by: Vorian Atraties why do you people want to remove local, then you wouldent have a place to smack at. unless you plan on sending people evemails v Quote: no empire has established lines of communication there so only make people show up if they talk as a rudimentary communications service instead of - player has join system - notification at least read the first post i highlighted the important stuff for you ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Baugoti Amarr Middle Finger Technology Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.08.25 23:17:00 - [283] local needs removed when im going to attack someone.. other then that.. keep it up :)
LvxOccvlta	Posted - 2007.08.26 00:40:00 - [284] I can remember a while back, when it was possible to delete Local from your Channels. Doing so removed you from showing up in local when you entered system... but CCP altered this "feature" making it impossible to delete Local. I for one, would love it if pilots only appeared in local chat if they spoke in local chat. This would make 0.0 space seem much bigger... and scarier.. it would give equal advantages to defenders and attackers while changing the dynamic of 0.0 PVP entirely.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.28 10:33:00 - [285] Originally by: LvxOccvlta I can remember a while back, when it was possible to delete Local from your Channels. Doing so removed you from showing up in local when you entered system... but CCP altered this "feature" making it impossible to delete Local. I for one, would love it if pilots only appeared in local chat if they spoke in local chat. This would make 0.0 space seem much bigger... and scarier.. it would give equal advantages to defenders and attackers while changing the dynamic of 0.0 PVP entirely. it would make eve everything it is hyped up to be ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Reachok Amarr Omiracon Technologies	Posted - 2007.08.28 10:49:00 - [286] Edited by: Reachok on 28/08/2007 10:50:27 Sure, you can remove local, but only if you let me have instant map updates for show pilots in space. Eve communication is instantaneous. Gameplay wise, the gates report activity to DED, or Concord as people jump through. The current map is purposely gimped with a 30 minute average. So, I'd know there's 50 pilots next door, but when I jump in unless they are all on that gate, I'd not know who. That would require me to scan for ships, plot an alternate course to the next gate so I could scan for enemies, etc. So, I don't think you can have both a 30 minute average, which was a concession to 0.0 pilots AND no local in 0.0. You want the no local, give us back the instant show pilot updates. It's only fair.
Inturist Capital Spaceship Industries	Posted - 2007.08.28 10:59:00 - [287] Originally by: Ryas Nia nerf Sijira for useless threads. QFT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.08.28 11:05:00 - [288] I've said it before and i'll say it again. Remove Local. Make Constellation the new local. Job done...think about it before responding, it's simple yet effective. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
Vyyrus An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.08.28 13:46:00 - [289] Is SiJira trying to get all his threads on the front page or something?
Turix Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.28 13:48:00 - [290] Chnage local to the mode where you dont show up unless you say anything, so you dont know who is in local. But still show how many people - that way you dont know if the numbers of freindly,hostile or neutral. Just there is X in this system. \| Image Hosting \| My Movies \|
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.28 13:49:00 - [291] But the smack, man, think of the smack! won't sombeody please think of the GFs?! - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Jade190	Posted - 2007.08.28 13:57:00 - [292] Edited by: Jade190 on 28/08/2007 13:57:42 if local get removed, they must also remove the following: gangs corps alliances ships stations pods guns shields the map 0.0 lowsec and ***holes like you (directed at SiJira) it's only fair. you get to play eve the way you want to, why can't i?
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.28 14:32:00 - [293] Originally by: Celeste Coeval I've said it before and i'll say it again. Remove Local. Make Constellation the new local. Job done...think about it before responding, it's simple yet effective. that would be a step in the right direction ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.28 16:00:00 - [294] Originally by: Turix Chnage local to the mode where you dont show up unless you say anything, so you dont know who is in local. But still show how many people - that way you dont know if the numbers of freindly,hostile or neutral. Just there is X in this system. it shouldnt show how many people that doesnt change much if anything at all ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.28 20:00:00 - [295] Originally by: Jade190 Edited by: Jade190 on 28/08/2007 13:57:42 if local get removed, they must also remove the following: gangs corps alliances ships stations pods guns shields the map 0.0 lowsec and ***holes like you (directed at SiJira) it's only fair. you get to play eve the way you want to, why can't i? oh you are one constructive genius ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Selnix Gallente Master Miners Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.29 07:51:00 - [296] @ the OP.... Just wondering how many times you fell off of the short bus head-first and where you are getting the drugs. Seriously, what benefit do you get from removing local? The only ones that stand to gain are the ones that want to sit there for hours on end camping a gate and hoping people will warp in to them from across the system. Claims that it makes life too safe for the isk farmers is ridiculous. Removing local would only make things safer for them as there would be no way for you to know where they are unless you literally go from system to system and check every single belt and scan at every single planet for encounter plexes. What can they do to keep their sense of security? How about spamming more shuttles? Not like there aren't at least a hundred 0.0 systems that are pretty much impossible to scan for ships in due to the fifty shuttles, noobie ships and GSCs. Supposing you actually decided to hunt the enemy instead of just some macro farmer, how do you plan to scan them down? Perhaps fly by every single moon and take inventory of the ships that are sitting empty in the POSes? The way I see it, local is of more use to the agressor than it is to the victims. Hunters are much more likely to get bored than the prey is as the sheer redundancy of what the prey is doing lends itself much more to the patient people. If you really are patient enough to search an entire constellation looking for a person that could be docked in a station in one of ten or more possible systems, checking every concievable place along the way to try and find someone that you'll never really know if they were there or not, then you should be waaaaay more than patient enough to adapt your tactics to work with local in its current form. Maybe you should look into learning how to use the tools the game provides to get kills instead of sitting on a gate in your smartbombing battleship for hours on end waiting for shuttles and frigates to warp in to their death. Next time you think about wasting everyone's time with another thread like this with intentions to bump it over and over again with a myriad of alts, please try telling someone in RL your ideas first. If they look at you like you have an extra arm growing out of the top of your head or something, please don't post. If they seem to more or less understand you and sympathize with you, please check them into a treatment center for their own good.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.08.29 08:50:00 - [297] yarr i have alts in freelancer alliance and roadkill with the current warp to 0 removing local is the only option left to turn 0.0 from carebear land to what it is supposed to be - especially the non sovereignty systems ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Belial02 Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.08.29 09:10:00 - [298] No. It already takes long enough to move fleet arounds without beeing worried about things such as cloaking camps and morons trying to be smartasses. Also if ppl want to relax and carebear a bit its their right dammit. I dont see why I should bother with scanning every second just because some idiots want to boost their stats on KBs... Originally by: Omeega diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2007.08.29 11:10:00 - [299] Originally by: Belial02 No. It already takes long enough to move fleet arounds without beeing worried about things such as cloaking camps and morons trying to be smartasses. Also if ppl want to relax and carebear a bit its their right dammit. I dont see why I should bother with scanning every second just because some idiots want to boost their stats on KBs... i love comments like this. You do realize your enemy has the same disadvantage/advantage. If local was changed to constellation then you would have an indication that there are hostiles withinb a 4-8 jump radius of you. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
SiJira	Posted - 2007.09.20 14:44:00 - [300] Originally by: Celeste Coeval Originally by: Belial02 No. It already takes long enough to move fleet arounds without beeing worried about things such as cloaking camps and morons trying to be smartasses. Also if ppl want to relax and carebear a bit its their right dammit. I dont see why I should bother with scanning every second just because some idiots want to boost their stats on KBs... i love comments like this. You do realize your enemy has the same disadvantage/advantage. If local was changed to constellation then you would have an indication that there are hostiles withinb a 4-8 jump radius of you. exactly ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem

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