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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.09 23:46:00 -
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no empire has established lines of communication there so only make people show up if they talk as a rudimentary communications service instead of - player has join system - notification ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |

Arhes Branwin
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Posted - 2007.07.09 23:55:00 -
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Alright, you can remove local from 0.0 when I can turn jump gates on and off..If I have soverignty why would I want people moving in and out of my space (or my constellation) when I didn't have the forces to prepare for them.
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LogixCraft
Gallente Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.09 23:57:00 -
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Border control :D, you enter a country (solar system) and you need to go through a border with ID and all.
You enter our space, you show up in local.
I think someone got podded for being in hostile 0.0 space 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.09 23:59:00 -
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There's no RP reason for no local in 0.0, gates are the mechanism by which notifications are likely handled, and the 0.0 gates are the same as those in empire. -
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:02:00 -
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nerf Sijira for useless threads.
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Vitrael
Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:07:00 -
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Sorry, no.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ryas Nia nerf Sijira for useless threads.
QFT -
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn There's no RP reason for no local in 0.0, gates are the mechanism by which notifications are likely handled, and the 0.0 gates are the same as those in empire.
On top of that, the entire gate system itself is under CONCORD jurisdiction, newly constructed stargates require CONCORD approval to be activated, such as when the drone regions were opened up to players.
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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Arhes Branwin
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:26:00 -
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Does Concord respond in 0.0 to anything, including attacking a stargate? Some of the gates are even smuggler's gates...not ones placed there by one of the empire factions. Why shouldn't someone be able to destroy them.
And please, I'm merely playing devil's advocate here. I'm not suggesting that the majority of 0.0 be totally lockdown-able by it's controlling alliances/corporations.
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arhes Branwin Does Concord respond in 0.0 to anything, including attacking a stargate? Some of the gates are even smuggler's gates...not ones placed there by one of the empire factions. Why shouldn't someone be able to destroy them.
And please, I'm merely playing devil's advocate here. I'm not suggesting that the majority of 0.0 be totally lockdown-able by it's controlling alliances/corporations.
There's at least one, if not multiple EVE Chronicles that mention CONCORD activity in 0.0, but they're all busy with their failed attempts to take out the NPC pirates out there.
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: SiJira on 10/07/2007 00:31:25
Originally by: Arhes Branwin Alright, you can remove local from 0.0 when I can turn jump gates on and off..If I have soverignty why would I want people moving in and out of my space (or my constellation) when I didn't have the forces to prepare for them.
you need to at least maintain sovereignty 1 to have the option of turning local on in your system
dont forget kids there is lots of 0.0 with no alliance control or presence
____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |

Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:31:00 -
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How are so many people suddenly against removing local as a spy tool?
I thought everyone wanted local nerfed for that. I sure do.
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Frug How are so many people suddenly against removing local as a spy tool?
I thought everyone wanted local nerfed for that. I sure do.
Everyone? 
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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Rh'jamiz
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:37:00 -
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Man, I remember when everyone was like 'Get rid of local!' and now people want it? Crazy. ________ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -LordHarold ([email protected]) |

LogixCraft
Gallente Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:40:00 -
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I like to know when reds are our space, so we can defend ourselves. Also it would take fovever to see if someone is in that system without local.
Docking at stations, scan the belts, plants, moons, sun.
check the gates.
ect ect.
Spys are always going to be around, no local won't fix that, if your in a decent alliance, most likely someone in your alliance is a spy.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:45:00 -
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I think no one should show up in local chat anywhere unless they speak in it. ------------------
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew Cooper on 10/07/2007 01:11:32 This is a compromise I would be happy with:
Players flying a cloaked ship in space do not show up in local unless they say something in local. They would however, be visible in the local list to corp/alliance members. Everyone else in space/docked at a station would remain on the list as they do now.
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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Yukami Kido
Caldari Adeptus Illuminati Aegis Authentica Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:14:00 -
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You know there was a patch a while back that did something along thease lines and totaly broke local. All you got in local was text no people present nothing.
It was total chaos to say the least. Funny thing is 90% of people including people who have bene known to bitvh about local were pretty quick to jump on CCP's case to get it fixed.
So i guess you can say this has been tried and failed so unless a compromise or new system comes around were stuck with local.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rh'jamiz Man, I remember when everyone was like 'Get rid of local!' and now people want it? Crazy.
Hell, even knowing someone is there isn't good enough these days, people want to be able to scan them down even if they are cloaked.  -
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Yukami Kido Edited by: Yukami Kido on 10/07/2007 01:14:34 You know there was a patch a while back that did something along thease lines and totaly broke local (dont remember which patch exactly). All you got in local was text no people present nothing.
It was total chaos to say the least. Funny thing is 90% of people including people who have bene known to ***** about local were pretty quick to jump on CCP's case to get it fixed.
That was pretty fun actually, and I'm as carebearish as they come.  ------------ LAG - Hopefully teen-appropriate now. IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery. |

Princess Voodoo
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:28:00 -
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shut the hell up with this idea, it's stupid
I KILLED SOMEONE - HERE IS A PICTURES OF IT [ ] |

SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Voodoo shut the hell up with this idea, it's stupid
this is the best reason to implement it
cause you whine! ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |

Strepsils
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Princess Voodoo shut the hell up with this idea, it's stupid
this is the best reason to implement it
cause you whine!
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Kage Psychodin
Caldari The Empire Nation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:29:00 -
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I usually take residence in 0.0. I like Localy Exactly the way it is. (nor should sov ever allow people to lock down systems and such, just more nonsense.) Another one bites the dust. |

Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:30:00 -
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I want local chat nerfed
It would go a long way to help deal with 0.0 isk farmer Ravens. I hate them.
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron I want local chat nerfed
It would go a long way to help deal with 0.0 isk farmer Ravens. I hate them.
How so? And secondly, why is it that people complain so much more about farming Ravens these days than macro miners? Are there really that many more Ravens with cloaks in 0.0 than there are barges in Empire?
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 03:32:00 -
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I rarely go to empire so what happens there doesn't bother me. But in 0.0 there are thousands of them. Perhaps 1/3 of all people in 0.0 are isk farmer Ravens.
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron I rarely go to empire so what happens there doesn't bother me.
I rarely go to 0.0, so what happens there doesn't bother me. 
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.10 03:55:00 -
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then you have no reason to post in a "remove local for 0.0" thread
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How
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Posted - 2007.07.10 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron then you have no reason to post in a "remove local for 0.0" thread
Pardon me for forgetting my sarcasm tag. The 0.0 economy and the Empire economy are not seperate, and things that happen in one will have an indirect effect on the other. Since I haven't seen the "numbers" on macro ratters I can only make guesses based on my own experience. It's easy to take a screenshot of a belt with 20 macro miners in it, it's not easy to take a screenshot of X number of cloaking Ravens spread across 0.0. Since the population of 0.0 is much less than empire, I can only guess that the number of macro cloak ravens is a lot less than the number of macro miners.
Secondly, barring the occasional officer spawn that is going to a macro ratter, I don't see how these people are having a direct impact on your ability to rat. If they safe spot when you enter local, then they are no longer preventing you from ratting there, nor are they preventing you from ratting anywhere else. On the other hand, macro miners can mine out belts entirely in empire, forcing miners to move elsewhere.
That aside, there's the concept of the "slippery slope". If people complained to CCP enough to remove local in 0.0, it's not too hard to imagine people complaining until local was removed entirely from the game. That applies to me, which is why I have reason to post in a thread about removing local from 0.0
Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron. 
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