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Captain Thunk Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:53:00 - [241] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Captain Thunk Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley I'm not really arguing that they didn't do the right thing. At the moment they only showed they will do the right thing when you spam, abuse and threaten CCP in general. I do not think it's behaviour that should be encouraged, which is what they are doing. ummm...yeah...it's pretty important that CCP does the right thing as often as possible for this game to work in their capacity as impartial gamesmasters If it takes threats and bullying to do that, then it's an unfortunate but necessary state of affairs. That said, CCP acted with full integrity in this instance. Most understand that if an account was hacked and billions stolen a great many items can be purchased very quickly, which in the event of them needing to be returned would be a logistical nightmare for those involved - not to mention the difficulties in explaining to sellers the reason why a transaction has been reversed and recovering the ISK (they themselves may have spent the ISK already) CCP has listened and acted in recent months. They state categorically if something is an exploit - examples being a firm decision made over POS bowling, stating via the news that neutral remote repping of POSs is an exploit immediately after revelations 2 patch when the problem was first discovered. This kind of behaviour is what people have been asking for and it's good work on CCP for listening and looking at ways to fix things to the benefit of everybody. It's a long road, but CCP are clearly trying their best and I think a great many players actually appreciate them for doing it and trust is beginning to rise once more. I don't see why you're so bitter about it, you seem to be a bit of a clunk to me. Captain Thunk So, everybody that gets petitioned gets instabanned till the full investigation is over? Seems to me with THIS policy Goonswarm could all KINDS of havoc... Thatd be even worse than the thread thingy they did For something on this scale yes, what choice is there when you consider the logistal nightmare of returning bought items to what could mount up to thousands of players. It would take a very long time to reverse these transactions and could have further complications in that the sellers could have already spent their ISK - a reversed transaction would then put them in the negative - is that fair to a player who just had items on the market? just another victim of the hacker? I don't think so. What's your solution exactly? shrug and move on perhaps? It's not pleasant, but for something of this scale it has to be done and CCP made an investigation very quickly. As for abuse of the system, well it has to be high scale and mass petitioning would of course give the game away and would probably get the people trying it on in trouble, so it doesn't seem to be as great a problem as you make out. Captain Thunk
Cougem Divine Retribution	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:53:00 - [242] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something?
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:54:00 - [243] Epic theft really. If St0ke is smart he's busy writing this up into a killer story, atleast Nightfreeze quality. Belt piracy isnt what it used to be.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:54:00 - [244] Originally by: ProphetGuru Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. I'd love to hear the reason why he did this. Was it: A: Long term plan from the start B: Someone really really annoyed him C: He just woke up crazy one day and though..."why not" Oh and to ProphetGuru, since you say you thought of him as a friend, I will offer you a little bit of sympathy. As having your friendship betrayed like that surely hurts far more than the loss of the isk. I, erm, like kill things and stuff
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:54:00 - [245] Originally by: Shihuangdi Originally by: Zeros Omega P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! This is why we love fighting BoB. TBH I was quite mad when I heard the goon titan fund was stolen. I really wanted to chance to kill a GOON owned super-capital, not one lended to you be RA. --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...
Slayton Ford Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:55:00 - [246] Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. So, will Goons still not be allowed to hold sov in 0.0? --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer...
Frances Ducoir VEB Kombinat Robotron	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:55:00 - [247] Originally by: Wigglytuff Epic theft really. If St0ke is smart he's busy writing this up into a killer story, atleast Nightfreeze quality. he just needs to copy his evemailbox over to caod...
General StarScream Gallente PLAYBOYS FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [248] haha
NeVeH Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [249] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Delve has 1bil BS spawns
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [250] Originally by: Slayton Ford Originally by: ProphetGuru This is the only official statement you will recieve from Evolution regarding this incident. Flatliner did indeed clean out several of our hangars. It was him, he was not hacked, and Evolution is not contesting this, crying h4x, or sploit. It was a legit theft. Flatliner has been a good friend of ours, and mine, for years. He used this friendship in an attempt to destroy us, for his own reasons. I know not the real reason behind this, and in truth, I don't care. What is done is done. Evolution has ample reserves and while noone would be stupid enough to sit here and claim a blow like this doesn't hurt ingame, the reality is that much of the assets lost have already been replaced, and this in no way affects the strength of Evolution, or BoB. I know the muppet brigade is salivating... and to you I say what Evolution always says. Bring it. This is a testament to the strength and attitude of those of us who are on this ride we call Evolution. Events like this destroy weak corps. Events like this strengthen strong corps. We'll continue to Evolve. So, will Goons still not be allowed to hold sov in 0.0? -dbp

Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:56:00 - [251] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! You didn't want those hangars anyway.
CitzNo 097864 CitzNo's Pet Grooming	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [252] Obviously if BoB had the logistical prowess that they claim then this wouldn't have happened. Corp Theft is a fair tactic used in EVE online to remove power from the hands of your enemy, and little light-hearted fairies dont like that because they're too soft to keep a grip on the corp.
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [253] Originally by: With JudgeReinhold Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! The dreadnaughts have already been replaced and we are now a stronger alliance than ever! RA has achieved nothing today! What? Because we lost the baby titan means we're dead or something? That just shows what a strong alliance we are that we can easily take such a loss! Say what you like, it's not the isk or the ships, or the other assests you lost. It's the egg on your face that is priceless. You have been whammied, but good, and long over due. Welcome to the Eve you helped create!
Solid Wilko Minmatar InNova Tech Inc Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [254] Originally by: Entschlossen Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Entschlossen How lame can someone be, to steal from friends he fought 3-4 years with. I can't understand that. Its only a game. You forgot that? No mate its more, at least for me its a kind of hobby, where i meet with friends, chat and have fun together. But i also dont see what this has to do with beeing a game or not, someone you thought is a friend backstabbed you. If he does it in Eve or when you play poker or steals it directly from you makes now difference for me, its simply lame. Is it lame when BoB does it to other Alliances? Weird I don't see you saying how lame it was for BoB to use their alts in other Alliance to cause losses of 10's of Billions of isk. Please point me to those posts if I missed them
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:57:00 - [255] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Shihuangdi Originally by: Zeros Omega P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! This is why we love fighting BoB. TBH I was quite mad when I heard the goon titan fund was stolen. I really wanted to chance to kill a GOON owned super-capital, not one lended to you be RA. But we do have a Goon owned super-capital?
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 18:58:00 - [256] Edited by: Zeros Omega on 18/07/2007 19:04:19 Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 50-60 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...
With JudgeReinhold Gallente Legal Team	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:00:00 - [257] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 5-6 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? My god it's like watching a dog trying to do algebra.
Shihuangdi GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:00:00 - [258] Originally by: NeVeH Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Delve has 1bil BS spawns This explains why BoB is so rich. They have 1 billion isk battleship spawns.
Marko Zhang Chargin Mah Lazors	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:00:00 - [259] Originally by: NeVeH Delve has 1bil BS spawns If any region did, I would imagine it'd be that one.
Zeros Omega Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:01:00 - [260] Originally by: The Hooch Originally by: With JudgeReinhold quoted stuff Say what you like, it's not the isk or the ships, or the other assests you lost. It's the egg on your face that is priceless. You have been whammied, but good, and long over due. Welcome to the Eve you helped create! Dear Hooch, bring it. But, like you said, its nothing more then being hit by an egg. All you need is a nice good shower ;) --- History is written on the sands of Arrakis. A chapter has ended, swept away by the whirlwind. One door has closed, but another has opened. And on the other side... our future...

Krun VanHalen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:02:00 - [261] BoB dont really need any of that crap anyway because they are like the USMC so you lost today tbh Goonswarm
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:03:00 - [262] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Cougem Originally by: Zeros Omega what i said Sorry, you've lost me... 100b between 200 players = half a bil each. You make half a bil from a BS spawn? Or am I missing something? 1 BS spawn = 10m ISK w/salvage & loot generally (thats a triple spawn of 1.5+) So, they would have to each kill 5-6 spawns... Every heard of the use of over-exaggerating? You're still doing it? 10m with loot and slavage? Try 2 unless you have T2 BS spawns... and 2 is generously assuming you've found a good one. Try 10-20m/hr. Which makes it more like 250 spawns and 25+ hrs ea.
Mihailo Great GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:03:00 - [263] Edited by: Mihailo Great on 18/07/2007 19:03:59 This game is awesome.
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:03:00 - [264] I always think that corp thefts are horrible and cringe whenever I heard about them. However, in this situation I recall the POS bowling, the smack talk and the ninja-titan aggro and I find myself thinking no one else could have deserved this more. Sadly though, I am pretty sure Evolution will bounce back from this. They have many renters lining their pockets. It must suck though that this is happening so close to their annual bbq. -------------------
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:04:00 - [265] Corp theft is lame as all hell, even if it happens to my enemies. Never thought I'd be saying this, but...well, uh, my sympathies & condolences to Evolution, I suppose. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:05:00 - [266] Originally by: NeVeH Delve has 1bil BS spawns I've always claimed that every spawn in Delve was a triple officer spawn. Guess this confirms it. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Vorketh Mordanil Amarr Brotherhood of Acquisitions	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:12:00 - [267] My RL sympathies go to the RL folks behind the characters that make up Evolution - your trust has been breached, and that can be a shocking / somewhat traumatic experience. As to the characters and the in game Corp / alliance... I maintain political neutrality, so all I can say is that this was well performed, and I am interested to see if this makes any waves... however much bravado it may seem being displayed by comments of it is already replaced, I tend to find them accurate - I really think this will be a ripple in the ocean... V... out. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:13:00 - [268] Removed reference to deleted post. -Elmo Pug Also Known As
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:14:00 - [269] Originally by: Zeros Omega Originally by: Omorashi Wanted to buy: Some nice BPO's A couple of COMMAND SHIPS Three DREADNOUGHTS Four CARRIERS Five FREIGHTERS And SIX BATTLESHIPS. [Edited quote, removed extra spaces] snicker snicker seriously... I've seen us lose more then this in a single fleet battle, in which I died of 'course dictors being primary :(. I have also seen enemies (specifically the northern allied fleet in F-T cough). The BPO set (inless researched) is nothing more then a small annoyance, and I'm assuming its a T1 bpo set. AND last but not least to say... Someone commented on EVOL being a communist corporation, which it is. I would like to point out the following facts. EVOL has 449 members (as of post). Say half are alts, thats still around 224 members. Market cost of what was stolen as per that list 100b (and I'm being generous). Someone tell me about how much ISK then each person needs to make to recoup that loss? Yea, thats right, they would make nearly double that if they sent half their members to the belts to kill 1 battleship spawn... Mmm math, gotta love it. P.S. I think corp thievery is underhanded, peroid. Use of spy's is fine (off-lining POSs, aggro'ing titans, ect) but straight out stealing is bad! Zeros, might I suggest brushing up on your math? 224 x 1,500,000 != < 100,000,000,000 Unless Evol has belts that spawn 10mil ISK bounty NPCs, they'd need to kill more than 1 each. But yes, a large corp/alliance that has every member do an hour of solid isk-making for the corp, will get billions of isk easily. Doing it daily will give the corp more ISK than it knows what to do with.
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.07.18 19:15:00 - [270] Edited by: Cadiz on 18/07/2007 19:15:19 CCP temporarily locking accounts involved in corp theft is hardly unheard of; it happened in NoQ when one of our directors had his account hacked and tried to run off with the corp wallet. The account got temp-banned by the GMs (and wasn't unlocked for a month after the fact much to the chagrin of the legitimate owner, but that's another story) as the situation was investigated. So CCP is not doing some strange and new thing here just because it is BoB, for those who seem to be implying such. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."



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